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From: "David C. Logan" <david.logan@plant-sciences.oxford.ac.uk>
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>Subject:       PLEASE VISIT: http://www.muetec.com/sgk/index.htm

Why?




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david.logan@plants.ox.ac.uk

David C. Logan
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From: N.P.Dantuma@biol.ruu.nl
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Subject: DEAE-dextran transfection/divalent cations
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:26:13
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Hi,

COS cells can be transfected according to the protocol of Cullen (Meth. 
Enzym. 152: 684-704) by incubating associated cells with DNA-DEAE-
dextran complexes in PBS without Ca and Mg. This DEAE-dextran transfection 
works nicely and the efficiency is high.

However, I noticed that many cells dissociate during the 30 min incubation 
with the DNA transfection mix when the Ca and Mg are omitted (as expected 
since COS cells require divalent cations for attachment).

Am I right that Ca and Mg have to be omitted according to this protocol (it 
is not clearly indicated)?

What is the reason? Does it disturb transfection?

Is it worth trying to transfect in the presence of Ca and Mg?

Suggestions/answers preferable by e-mail. Thanks.

Nico Dantuma

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Please, could you tell me how I get off this mailing-list?
 What must to say the e-mail?
 Thanks!

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Subject: Re: mRNA extraction from Gram positive bacteria
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I think you will find a oscillating or high-speed reciprocating 
shaker almost essential for efficient isolation from many gram 
positives. These devices shake the pelleted suspention at high 
speeds (6K rpm) with zirconimum fragments (beads) and will increase 
the total RNA yield from say Mycobacterium almost 10X compared to 
other grinding and lysis procedures, in my experience. Two such 
devices are "Fast-prep" from Gibco and "Mini Bead Beater".

As for Trizol, its just colored buffered phenol of low PH, with a 
buffer system that supposedly allows recovery of the DNA from the 
organic phase. Published reports show that up to 20% of the nucleic
acids recovered from the aqueous phase may be DNA.

See Fischetti's recent Analytical Biochemisty article for details.

Jim
J. Graham
Biology Department


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From: aaa186@agora.ulaval.ca (gwen jenkins)
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Subject: pcr problem with gc rich sequences
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We are trying to amplify a gene with many repeats in GC rich
sequences. After PCR, no amplification seems to appear. I've heard
that the Polymerase is blocked in some way by secondary structures. We
have tried SSB proteins  to stabilize it but no improvement was
observed. Is somobody know a way to do it ? If so please contact us by
e-mail at BHXM@musicb.mcgill.ca

Stephane Angers



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From: johnnyhugh@aol.com (JohnnyHugh)
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Subject: ProK Digestion
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I would like to treat small tissue sections with Pro K.
Could somebody kindly suggest the optimal buffer and pH conditions for 
its digestion?  Thanks.

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In article <31MAY96.19034119@shrsys.hslc.org>, jovermeyer@shrsys.hslc.org 
says...
>I am considering trying Invitrogen's new transfection kit using a phook
>vector that entails magnetic beads on the cell surface to help select for a
>trsnsfected population of cells. Does anyone have any experience with this?
>

Yes indeedy-do,

	I am currently in the process of playing with this.  Our current
"gold standard" for post transfection selection is an expression vector
for the human IL2 receptor and we can then capture the cells with
anti-IL2R-mab coated Dynal beads.  This system works extremely well but
we want to sort cells that already have IL2R so I am trying this
Capture-Tec kit.
	Whilst the overall theory is sound the kit seems to have been
put together by Homer Simpson.  It does work but needs some fiddling.
I've used the pHook-1 system (does not contain a MCS in the vector).
Here are some thoughts and tips;

1)	Dump the pCR3LacZ test vector that comes with the kit.
It gives the lowest LacZ expression of any vector I have seen.
It also uses the same promoter (CMV) as the pHook plasmid (doh!)
so they would probably interfere with each other.  I've used
the MacGregor pRSVZ or one of the SV derivatives (pSVbeta or
pCH110) and seen nice in situ staining of sorted cells.

2)	They put a neo/kan cassette in the vector which already has
an amp cassette (doh!).  This is entirely pointless as if you are
going for a stable line you'll use pSV2neo at the start and not
bother with the sorting and if you are sorting cells for transient
transfection you don't need another selectable marker.  That's
0.8 kb of DNA wasted guys!

3)	Invitrogen obviously hope to make most of their cash from
the PhOX beads which are obscenely over-priced, even by their own
standards.  Look at the price of Dynal beads and do the maths to
check the mark-up.  Alternatives to selling major organs to pay
for this are to use standard MACS with an antibody against either
the HA or myc epitope (I haven't tried this) or to make your own
derivatised beads.  Since the hapten for their sFv is cheap and
spontaneously amine-reactive it should be possible to either react
it with protein coated beads (eg. an irrelavant antibody) or to
react it with a diamino spacer reagent (eg. diaminooctane) and thence
with tosylated dynabeads.  I shall let you know how this works out.

4)	The kit does not include a magnet (doh!) so get a good one.

5)	If you've ever done any kind of MACS before using the kit
is a breeze.  The one major practical problem is that Invitrogen
warn you against using trypsin to harvest cell prior to sorting
and suggest dispersion in PBS/EDTA.  Since many adherent cell lines
just shrug off such treatment this results in unsortable clumps.
The IL2R system I use has the advantage that the surface antigen is
trypsin resistant so I can make nice single-cell suspensions for
sorting.  Thankfully preliminary results with the Capture-Tec kit
suggest that Invitrogen are being over-cautious and that light
exposure of transfected cells to trypsin does not stop them from
being sorted.  I'll try and confirm this next time.

6)	I have no idea just how high the affinity of the antibody
is for the beads.  Since the system is designed for positive
selection, rather than depletion, this only affects the yield.
I aim to perform a selection and then check the remaining cells
for the presence of the sFv by immunofluorescent staining for the
myc or HA epitopes.

	Okay, that's all I have for now.  I shall pass on any
other tips as they occur to me.
		Bernard

[No affiliation with Invitrogen, Dynal or The Simpsons]

Bernard Murray, Ph.D.
bernard@elsie.nci.nih.gov  (National Cancer Institute, NIH, Bethesda MD, USA)


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: mcbtayhn@leonis.nus.sg (Tay Hou Ngee Agnes)
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Subject: MJ thermal cycler problems
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I have owned an MJPTC200 thermal cycler for 6 months and have gone 
through 4 alpha blocks. Each replacement block lasts a month or so before 
drifting as much as 3C or having sensor failure. The latest replacement 
did not even make it to me as our local service engineer tried testing it 
before sending it on to me and it failed the tests.
I know of at least 2 others from 2 different countries with the same 
problems with MJ machines. Not sure what's happening because the 
PTC-100's used to work well. The PTC-200 is a great disappointment 
and MJ has been very slow to respond to our complaints.

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: oxberry@numbat.murdoch.edu.au (Megan)
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Subject: Autoradiography of PAGE gels - please help
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I am trying to identify the protein to which a drug is binding in a
unicellular organism using autoradiography and native PAGE gels.  I
have been adding tritium labelled drug to sonicated cells (with
protease inhibitor), incubating the lysate at 4¡C for 24h then running
it on a gel.  I then fix the gel in 2-propanol/water/acetic acid
(25:65:10) for 30min and soak it in Amlify (Amersham) for 30min in the
dark.  I then dry the gel at 80¡C for 2h on to filter paper and place
it against Hyperfilm MP (preflashed) in a cassette for 1-2 weeks at
-80¡C.

I have had no success at all with this technique even with the positive
control I have been using.  

I would be most grateful for any suggestions regarding this.

Thankyou,
Megan

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subscribe methods

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: swine@plaza.snu.ac.kr (Dae-Young Kim)
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Subject: Help : Detection of nucleotide on TLC
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 04:39:05 GMT
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My message was bounced, so I try again.

I am trying to detect mononucleotide, which was purified with HPLC, on
TLC plate.  I wanna see, by naked eyes, the position of it on TLC.  If
anyone has a good, please reply me.

E-mail : swine@plaza.snu.ac.kr


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: oravaxcm@world.std.com (Charles A Miller)
Subject: How do you determine % homology vs. stringency in a Southern Blot?
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I have been trying to determine how to calculate the Stringency of 
hybridization in a Southern Blot versus the % homology of the probe
with its various target sequences. For instance, from what I have been
able to determine, if you drop the stringency of a hybridization by 1 to
1.5 'C from the Tm of the probe, you also decrease the necessary homology
for hybridization by 1%. This is from Maniatis by the way. What
I cannot determine, is exactly at what point this applies, and
how exactly to determine the Tm using the equation (can't remember
it exactly but it looks something like this: Tm=81.5+16(log salt)-
molar content of G's+C's plus % formamide etc...). What I have to
wonder is this: When determining the Tm for the given conditions, do you
then have to determine the conditions separately for the hybridization as
well as the more stringent washes? The protocol I am using uses formamide
in the hybridization to lower the Tm, but the later washes do not use 
formamide. So, do I have to determine the Tm of the hybrid for this final
wash, subtract the ACTUAL temperature used in under the conditions
of salt and formamide plugged into the equation and then
use THAT to determine the % change in homology? ALSO, if I have 
digested the target DNA before I bind the probe, do I only
use the part of the probe that is actually binding to the 
fragment of most interest when I am trying to determine the proper
temperature? Do I also only use the number of basepairs that are binding 
to this particular fragment in the Tm equation (ignoring the rest of
the probe that will bind to another fragment that was cut away?

Is there a decent shareware/freeware mac or pc program for doing all
of this calculation?

Thanks!

Chuck Miller
oravaxcm@world.std.com


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Subject: DNA/RNA Stain
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I have a question.. does any one know of a common lab chemical that is 
either DNA or RNA specific.  I'm looking for something that is cheap and 
easy that will tell me what I have extracted, for I am on a limited budget.

Thanks.
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Clay Comstock
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PGP Public Key available through most key servers.
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From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: michelle@MOLECULE.BIO.UTS.EDU.AU (Michelle Gleeson)
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Subject: Re: Acrylamide Gel setting too quickly  -- IDEAS??
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On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Brian MacNevin wrote:

> Well, when I mix up my acrylamide gel solution and begin pipetting it
> between the glass plates for electrophoresis, I have found that it
> starts to set before I can get it evenly dispersed in the plates.
> 	My first thought is that this might be due to the temp of the
> solution.  It seems to me that I don't have this problem if the
> solution is allowed to cool a little before adding the final solution.
> I was wonderin if anyone else has had these problems and if it really
> is due to the temp of the solution?
> 	Thanks!
> 		Brian
> 		macnevin@ix.netcom.com
>
>
>
Dear Brian,
Yes, it is definitely the temperature.  Acrylamide gels always take
longer to set on cold days.  Try chilling the acrylamide mix before adding the
TEMED and  APS until it feels cool to touch.  Also, don't use high heat to
dissolve the urea.  It will take a little longer but not nearly as long as
preparing a new set of plates!  Good luck,
Michelle
michelle.gleeson@uts.edu.au


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: jpcd0@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (John Dixon)
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Subject: PCR from lambda - primer help
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Hi there, now that long range PCR is working like a treat, I would like to
PCR out some inserts cloned into lambda FIX. But I cant find any published
sequence for primers that flank the cloning site. The clones I have were
made by cloning into the XbaI sites and destroying them in the process so
that I cannot cut the insert out.

Has anyone got anything like this?

P.S. on the map the lambda regions where the primers must bind are git and lom.

Cheers

John

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From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sat Jun 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: JCUROLE@LSUVM.SNCC.LSU.EDU (Jason Curole)
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Subject: Cloning Vectors
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To all:
We are interested in setting up TA Cloning in our laboratory.  I have seen
the kit from Invitrogen (and others), but would prefer to buy the components
separately and make my own T-vector (sans. Marchuk et. al. Nucleic Acids
Research 19:1154).

My first question is: Does anyone out there have any experience with making
T-vectors this way?  Marchuk et. al. make the procedure sound rather simple
and claim to have great sucess with it (9 of 9 PCR products were successfully
cloned).  Is it really this easy?

Secondly, Marchuck et. al. used Stratagene's Bluescript vector, but claim
any vector with a unique blunt end restriction site will work.  Is there any
reason to use Stratagene's vectors over, say, Promega or Gibco's vectors?

If there is an FAQ or any previous discussion of this topic on the net
please let me know.  Feel free to e-mail me directly:
jcurole@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu

Thank you

JASON P. CUROLE
DEPARTMENT OF ZOOLOGY AND PHYSIOLOGY
LOUISIANA STATE UNIVERSITY
BATON ROUGE LA 70803-1725

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From: waring@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Richard Waring)
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Subject: expressing truncated proteins
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--
Best wishes
Richard Waring

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From: waring@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Richard Waring)
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Subject: Re: expressing truncated proteins
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We need to express truncated versions of an already small protein (137aa)
In E. coli and have read that it is better to fuse them to another protein
like DHFR.
Does anyone know of any references or have any experience in trying this?


--
Best wishes
Richard Waring

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From: jburger@csir.co.za (Johan Burger)
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Subject: Vancomycin resistance
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Can someone please help:

The neomycin-phosphotransferase (NPT-II) gene confers resistance to a few 
antibiotics (e.g. neomycin, kanamycin, geneticin).  Is vancomycin included in 
this list?  If not, what gene is responsible for vancomycin resistance?

Thanks very much
Johan Burger

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From: Eric Campeau <popa0272@PO-Box.McGill.CA>
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Subject: inverse PCR on cDNA: any protocol available ?
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Hi,

  I am currently trying to setup a protocol to do inverse PCRs at the cDNA level.  We have already a protocol working for genomic DNA.  I would like to know if anyone have 
tried inverse PCRs on cDNA, especially if it worked !  Thanks

Eric Campeau
graduate student
McGill Universty
e-mail: popa0272@po-box.mcgill.ca

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Have a new machine want all short cuts and tips. Especially info 
regarding premade acryl gels.

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From: ajpchem@cencom.net (Protein Chemistry Facility)
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In article <thompsop-2905961612510001@203.0.141.239>,
thompsop@burnet.mbcmr.unimelb.edu.au (Phillip R Thompson) wrote:

> I am using Clontech's Great Escape SEAP Genetic reporter system & am
> having a major problem with reproducibility.  Some of my duplicates differ
> by as much as 300%!  The assays are being carried out essentially as
> described in the manual & read in 96-well black plates in a Wallach plate
> reader.  I'm being very careful with pipetting & I don't believe pipetting
> error could result in such large errors anyway.  Any help would be
> appreciated!
> 
I don't know the details of the Clontech protocol, I have used one from
Tropix Inc. . Killing the endogenous alkaline phosphatase by heating at 65
C is essential though. I do this directly in the 96 well plate in a hyb.
oven. 
Hope this helps, 
Breandan Kennedy,
Protein Chemistry Facility,
WAJCSC,
L. Placid, 
NY 12946
Ph  518-523-1268
fax 518-523-4970/1849

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From: dellaire@ODYSSEE.NET (Graham Dellaire)
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Subject: Re: DEAE-dextran transfection/divalent cations
Date: 3 Jun 1996 19:03:35 -0700
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Hello Nico,


I transfect cells (murine fibroblasts) with DEAE-dextran and I don't 
worry about Ca or Mg ion content.  It works fine... I found the mol 
weight of the DEAE-dextran you use has more of an effect.  Try to get 
100,000 or higher.


G. Dellaire
dellaire@odyssee.net

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From: tsichlis@thalis.rm.fccc.edu (Tsichlis Lab)
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Subject: RDA (?)
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I would like some feedback from someone using RDA-representational display
analysis to look for differences in RNA between two samples.
Are there any new tricks to incorporate since the MCB Fli paper?

-- 
Tsichlis Lab
Fox Chase Chase Center
7701 Burholme Ave
Phila, PA 19111

Phone: 215-728-3636
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Tsichlis@thalis.rm.fccc.edu

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:24:11 EDT
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Does anybody use glucose assay kit of Sigma #635 ?

This is the kit for colorimetric assay of glucose using
o-Toluidine.  I have o-Toluidine Reagent, catalog #635-6,
and I can make 3% TCA and glucose solutions.

Unfortunately, I have no indications for the kit !!

If you know the instruction of the kit, please tell me.
I went to the library to see the original references, but
I could not get it, because the references are too old or in Spanish.

Thanks a lot in advance.
Toshi Sakamoto
FAX 814-863-7024

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From: tsichlis@thalis.rm.fccc.edu (Tsichlis Lab)
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Subject: Re: beta-galactosidase assays using microtitre plates
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In article <4ofb5s$ci3@sun4.bham.ac.uk>, K.A.Barne@bham.ac.uk (Kerry Barne)
wrote:

> Does anybody have a protocol for assaying beta-galactosidase activity
> in E. coli using microtitre plates rather than test-tubes.
> 
We have used this protocol extensively and are very happy with it.

Bignon, C., D. Daniel, and J. Djiane.  1993.  b-Galactosidase and
chloramphenicol acetyltransferase assays in 96-well plates.  Biotechniques
15: 243-245.

-- 
lee grimes
Fox Chase Chase Center
7701 Burholme Ave
Phila, PA 19111

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L_grimes@fccc.edu

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sun Jun 02 23:00:00 1996
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From: wagenkne@mailer.Uni-Marburg.DE (Chr. Wagenknecht)
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Subject: HELP! T4-RNA Ligase
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 00:29:30 LOCAL
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Hi!
Has anybody worked with T4-RNA Ligase before? I want
to ligate an RNA-Linker to mRNA. Can You give me a
protocol about it?
Thanks in advance,
Christian


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From: iyu@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU (I-ching Yu)
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Subject: Quantify DNA
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Hello, I am posting a question for a friend.

My project is to look at the apoptosis or programmed cell death in the
chicken ovary. One of the biochemical hallmark for apoptosis is the
fragmentation of genomic DNA. Once the cells are destined to undergo
apoptosis, a specific DNase which makes cut in between nucleosomes will
be activated. If you run the isolated DNA from the apoptotic cells on an
EB agrose gel, you will get a laddering pattern which the space between the
bands is about the size of a nucleosome (160-200bp). In order to compare
the degree of apoptosis among different treatment groups, I need to use
the densitometry to quantify the level of DNA laddering.

Unfortunately, there is no densitometry available in our building.
Another problem is that I am not sure if densitometry can read
black-white picture or a ethidium bromide gel.

It will be highly appreciated if you can give me some info about it.



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> To express interest, please send your name, mailing address, and
> photocopies of **ALL** degrees you have earned to:

Careful folks. Why would it be necessary to send actual copies of 
anything in order to merely "express interest" in a survey?

(They're probalby building a directed marketing database from the 
information you send "expressing interest".)

Jim
J. Graham PhD 
Biology Department 

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We use the RPA protocol from Current Methods in Molecular Biology and have been
able to detect 0.07 pg of a 400 nt target in 20 micrograms of total RNA.  Probes
are synthesized with 800 Ci/mmole UTP.  Less than 20 micrograms of sample RNA
can be used but we always add yeast tRNA as carrier to bring the total to 20.

Contact me if you want more details.

Rich Rohan

tking@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Dr. T.F. King) wrote:

>I need a good RNAse protection assay kit or protocol which is optimised 
>for minimal amounts of RNA. What is the minimal amount of total RNA anyone 
>has used to detect low messages in eukayotic cells
>Thanks
>Tim King


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Sun Jun 02 23:00:00 1996
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Does anyone have the sequence of the vector pRK-5 that they could send 
me?  My E-mail address is lansing~tl@glaxo.com.  Many thanks in advance!

Tim Lansing
Glaxo Wellcome R & D




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From: John Brennand <john.brennand@gbapr.zeneca.com>
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Subject: Re: supplier for human serum
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Sabine

There are literally dozens of suppliers of human serum in all its 
formulation (even Sigma).

Check Linscott's directory page 189 for full listing (contact them in 
Sweden on Fax: 46-23-39232)

John



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From: bernard@elsie.nci.nih.gov (Bernard Murray)
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Bottom line:  What are the sequences of phage polymerase
termination signals?

Yes, I am still trying to get good in vitro transcription of
a particular sequence for use in RNase protection analysis.
Basically I can only really use one region and this is next
to a T7 promoter so I am fiddling with the conditions.  The
transcript I get is mainly full length but the yield is awful.

I tried 15degC for 3 h.  It was worse then 37degC for 1 h.
I tried the Maslak & Martin buffer and this may have improved
things but the salt/detergent in the buffer screw up the gel
purification of the probe (I am working on this).
I tried beefing up the amount of enzyme or the amount of
limiting nucleotide (32P-CTP) but this didn't really help.
I have yet to try T4g32 protein or its equivalent.

In the back of the Ambion MAXIscript guide their is a vague
reference to accidental incorporation of phage RNA polymerase
termination signals in a template being a reason for poor
yield.  No information is given as to what these sequences
actually are.  I am wondering if I have blundered into
one of these at the T7 end of my transcript.
	Can some virally-enhanced person help a poor
toxicologist and give me a pointer to what a termination
signal for T7 polymerase (and SP6 and T3 if possible)
look like?  Much obliged for any pointers.

		Bernard

Bernard Murray, Ph.D.
bernard@elsie.nci.nih.gov  (National Cancer Institute, NIH, Bethesda MD, USA)


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Subject: Re: Thermal cyclers for less than $3,000?
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In a message dated 96-06-03 14:29:52 EDT, mremingt@umabnet.ab.umd.edu (Mary
P. Remington) writes:

>
>Are there any thermal cyclers on the market for less than $3,000?  
>Thanks, Mary

Both Biometra and MJ Research have personal cyclers under $3000 in the U.S.
 They are probably more in other countries.
Several other companies offer units very near this price.

Walt Schick

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Sounds funky, can't you just make a plasmid w/ RNA pol prom and 
transcribe it?

Luanne

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From: Achim Recktenwald <achim@ibex.ca>
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Subject: Re: Acrylamide Gel setting too quickly  -- IDEAS??
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Brian MacNevin wrote:
> 
> Well, when I mix up my acrylamide gel solution and begin pipetting it
> between the glass plates for electrophoresis, I have found that it
> starts to set before I can get it evenly dispersed in the plates.
>         My first thought is that this might be due to the temp of the
> solution.  It seems to me that I don't have this problem if the
> solution is allowed to cool a little before adding the final solution.
> I was wonderin if anyone else has had these problems and if it really
> is due to the temp of the solution?
>         Thanks!
>                 Brian
>                 macnevin@ix.netcom.com

How much TEMED are you using ?   Try with half the amount.

Achim

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To: Clay Comstock <comstock@plains.nodak.edu>

How about methylene blue staining?  Super cheap

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To: Clay Comstock <comstock@plains.nodak.edu>

How about methylene blue staining?  Super cheap

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Temperature matters, try cooling mix prior to addition of APS and TEMED or reduce 
the amount of TEMED you are using.

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Subject: How many ug of RNA for differential display
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Hi, netter
Please tell me how much RNA ( total RNA or  mRNA) is required for
differential display analysis.
Any advice and information is available for me.

Thank you.


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Hello All,

I am thinking of trying microinjection of mouse ES cells and I was 
wondering what is involved as far as equipement (including rough 
pricing??) and time.  I have seen papers where they inject several 
thousand cells (many a paper by Capecchi) and I was wondering how 
difficult this is to do.  We routinely inject pronuclei in mouse 
oocytes.  Is it much more involved than this?

Any and all hints, suggestions are appreciated



G. Dellaire
McGill dept of Medicine
Div. of Experimental Medicine.

dellaire@odyssee.net

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Are there any thermal cyclers on the market for less than $3,000?  
Thanks, Mary


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Hi,
I find that the majority of problems with DNA ligation inefficiency 
are due to ATP degradation in the reaction buffer. If in doubt order 
new buffer and freeze in small aliquots. You can also order Pharmacia 
ligase - you have to order separate 10mM ATP with it to add to the 
reaction as required. You have to be fairly accurate with the amount 
of ATP added as too much is as bad as too little.

I hope this is of help to you

cheers

Nick Jacobsen.


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Hi,
I find that the majority of problems with DNA ligation inefficiency 
are due to ATP degradation in the reaction buffer. If in doubt order 
new buffer and freeze in small aliquots. You can also order Pharmacia 
ligase - you have to order separate 10mM ATP with it to add to the 
reaction as required. You have to be fairly accurate with the amount 
of ATP added as too much is as bad as too little.

I hope this is of help to you

cheers

Nick Jacobsen.


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Hi,
I find that the majority of problems with DNA ligation inefficiency 
are due to ATP degradation in the reaction buffer. If in doubt order 
new buffer and freeze in small aliquots. You can also order Pharmacia 
ligase - you have to order separate 10mM ATP with it to add to the 
reaction as required. You have to be fairly accurate with the amount 
of ATP added as too much is as bad as too little.

I hope this is of help to you

cheers

Nick Jacobsen.


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From: Rico Laage <rico.laage@urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
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solution.
> > I was wonderin if anyone else has had these problems and if it really
> > is due to the temp of the solution?
> >       Thanks!
> >               Brian
>
> Dear Brian,
> Yes, it is definitely the temperature.  Acrylamide gels always take
> longer to set on cold days.  Try chilling the acrylamide mix before adding the
> TEMED and  APS until it feels cool to touch.  Also, don't use high heat to

> Michelle
> michelle.gleeson@uts.edu.au


yes temp is important, but I would suggest to reduce the Temed 
concentration, because this catalizes the reaction and as far as I 
know determines the speed of polymerization.
try it ! Rico
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From: seegert@ita.fhg.de (Dirk Seegert)
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Subject: Murine T-cell line responsive to IL-12?
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Hi there,

does anybody know (or have) a murine T-cell line which is highly
responsive to IL-12 signals, especially by producing IFNg in a high
range? Additionally preparation of these cell line from Balb/c or/and
C3H mice would be great.

Thanks in advance


Dirk Seegert, Ph.D.
Fraunhofer Institute Hannover
Nikolai-Fuchs-Straße 1
30625 Hannover
e-mail: seegert@ita.fhg.de
Tel.: +49 511 5350 255



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I have a cancer patient who is suspected and diagnosed to have 
hepatic and splenic metastasis from pancreatic tail cancer.
They say most of pancreatic cancer is from its head not tail.
For the patient of 70, operation is impossible, and even chemo-
therapy is also not recommended. Is there any possible treatment
in this case? 
Does any molecular biologists of pancreatic cancer have information
about this and effective treatment for this case?
 I need your help, thank you in advance!



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From: graham@biodec.wustl.edu (James Graham)
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Subject: Persistant phenotypic differences (serial subculture)?
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Hello folks. Here's an interesting problem which I've yet to hear
any good ideas on, but one which has become increasingly evident in my 
work, yet is apprarently largely unrecognized in the area of my research.

When one grows several broth batch cultures of a single bacterial 
strain inoculated from say an saturated overnight culture, a single 
colony, or from a frozen glycerol stock, one will notice a variety of 
differences between the two cultures, at least in terms of iducability of 
promoters, or perhaps the transformation efficiency of subsequently prepared 
calcium competent cells. Rumor has it that a two-dimensional PAGE 
analysis of identically cultured cellls prepared from two cultures 
originating from slightly different inocula will show considerable 
differences, far beyond that which could be attributed to differences 
among any nondividing cells originally introduced.

Personally, I have noticed some time ago that Staphylococcus aureus cultures 
grown in a defined medium with 0.5 M NaCl frequently (but not always) grow 
in visible clumps to a greater extent than when grown at higher or lower 
salt concentrations. More importantly for this discussion, those cultures 
which show the clumped or "smooth" growth characterisitc will continue to 
show such growth in multiple subsequent serial batch subcultures, as if 
some kind of "founder effect" could be propagated under otherwise identical 
conditions.

Is there any evidence for such a "heritable" change in gene expression 
in bacterial cells growing in batch cultures? If so, how many 
such serial subcultures would it take to obtain two identical patterns 
of gene expression among two cultures of the same strain taken from two
different inocula? What is the nature of the propagation of the 
phenotypic differences in these cases? Do the intial inocula perhaps 
conditionthe culture media differently? Do regualtory cascades perpetuate 
different types of gene expression among the progeny of differently 
cultured cells growing under identical conditions? If so, through how 
many batch subculturings can such effects persist?

Any refereneces to such discussion or experiments most appreciated.

Thanks. Please send me a copy of any responses directly.

Jim
J. Graham PhD 
Biology Department 
Washington University of St. Louis 


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Does anyone know the email address for the soc.culture.nordic? 
thanks


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Alexander Kraev (kraev@bc.biol.ethz.ch) wrote:

: I absolutely subscribe to what Philip said! And this article really
: belongs to the FAQ list! (Paul, are you listening?)

Yeah, I'm here! :-) I'll put that in the FAQ list. Is there anyone here
who has used their TKO mini to detect strand separation using 2-aminopurine?

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From: John Brennand <john.brennand@gbapr.zeneca.com>
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Gareth

It varies.

The New England Biolabs catalogue (p 238-9) is a good place to start

They are at http://www.neb.com

John



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Johan Burger wrote:
> 
> Can someone please help:
> 
> The neomycin-phospho-transferase (NPT II) gene confers resistance to Kanamycin
> and Neomycin.  Does it also confers resistance to Vancomycin??  If not,
> which gene does?
> 
> Thanks
> Johan Burger

Neomycin, Kanamycin, and G418 are all aminoglycoside 
antibiotics.  The Neo(R) gene confers resistance to the 
whole class.  Vancomycin is a complex glycopeptide 
antibiotic unrelated to the aminoglycosides.  Since those 
of us who worry about antibiotic resistance view Vanco as 
the last line we have against a growing list of pathogenic 
organisms, I would suggest that you avoid using any kind 
of Vanco-resistance selection system.  A discussion with a 
clinical microbiologist or Infectious disease specialist 
might be useful.  

Why do you want to use Vanco anyway?

--Rich

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From: sabine.hanelt@medizin.uni-ulm.de (Sabine Hanelt)
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Hey netters,
does anybody know a supplier for human serum. We have heared about a supplier 
named biobee, but we don't know the address. Who knows either a source for 
human serum or the address of biobee???
Thank's for your help
Sabine

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Hello everybody,

is there anyone experienced in cloning repetitive DNA? I've tried to 
clone tandemly repeated DNA in E. coli strains Sure and DH5alpha several 
times, but neither of them contained the desired plasmid.
The Sure strain produced no clones at all, DH5alpha produced only 
plasmids with wrong insertions.
My question is: Does anybody know of any other strain which may be used 
for that purpose?


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From: Inmaculada Garcia Robles <garciai@uv.es>
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Subject: NaBr gradients versus KBr
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Does anybody know if there is a great difference between perform a NaBr
gradient (to separate certain proteins) or a KBr gradient? In fact I 
always read in all papers about NaBr ones but I wonder if it is possible 
to do it with KBr.

Thanks


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In article <Ds7ww6.7q7@uns.bris.ac.uk>, bijgh@zeus.bris.ac.uk says...
>
>Minsoo Yoon (ms.yoon@auckland.ac.nz) wrote:
>
>: Why don't you try T-A cloning?
>: You can either buy (from Promega or Invitro gene) or make your own t 
vector.
>: I've been using t vector to clone my PCR products. It's much easier 
and
>: more efficient than traditional blunt-end ligation.
>
>I'd have to agree with this and add that once you have your PCR safely 
in 
>the TA plasmid you can amplify up as much as you want, and when it comes 
>to restriction, you *know* that you have cut at both sites. 
>
>Jared
>
>--
>Jared Head     at the Department of Biochemistry, University of Bristol
>
>    "If anybody wants to clap," said Eeyore when he had read this, 
>                       "now is the time to do it."


I would agree with this too! PCR with non-proofreading enzymes such as 
Taq, Tfl etc., produce A overhangs which facilitate it's sub-cloning into 
a vector with T overhangs. We use the pGEM-T vector from Promega. First 
we band prep/purify our DNA products before sub-cloning our procedures 
which is a very wise thing to do. This way you are sure it is the band(s) 
of interest that you are sub-cloning. Routinely, we band purify 40 
microlitres of a standard PCR reaction and get good yield back. We 
estimate the concentration of the DNA simply by band intensity on an 
ethidium bromide gel and then use the appropriate amount in the ligation 
reaction. 

Haapy cloning!

Jonathan Shillingford
jms93@aber.ac.uk
 


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 I have a patient who was diagnosed to liver and spleen
cancer from pancreatic tail cancer. It is said that cancer
in tail is rare, since most of cancer in pancreas occurs
in head.
Is there any molecular biologists of oncology who can 
explain this and give some information about effective
treatments? Operation is impossible, and chemotherapy
is also hard.
Thank you in advance!
hbkim@biochem.kaist.ac.kr 

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From: Nick Jacobsen <jacobsen@cf.ac.uk>
Subject: Clontech epidermal cDNA libraries
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Hi there,

Can anyone out there give me advice about Clontech human cDNA libraries. 
I am thinking of buying a human epidermal cDNA library (cat. no. 
HL1112b). I have heard various reports about the quality of some of 
Clontech's libraries. Has anyone ever used this one and if so is it worth 
the money,

many thanks

Nick Jacobsen


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Hi,
I find that the majority of problems with DNA ligation inefficiency 
are due to ATP degradation in the reaction buffer. If in doubt order 
new buffer and freeze in small aliquots. You can also order Pharmacia 
ligase - you have to order separate 10mM ATP with it to add to the 
reaction as required. You have to be fairly accurate with the amount 
of ATP added as too much is as bad as too little.

I hope this is of help to you

cheers

Nick Jacobsen.


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Hi,
I find that the majority of problems with DNA ligation inefficiency 
are due to ATP degradation in the reaction buffer. If in doubt order 
new buffer and freeze in small aliquots. You can also order Pharmacia 
ligase - you have to order separate 10mM ATP with it to add to the 
reaction as required. You have to be fairly accurate with the amount 
of ATP added as too much is as bad as too little.

I hope this is of help to you

cheers

Nick Jacobsen.


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From: forte@mtwo.com (Michael Forte)
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In article
<Pine.PMDF.3.91.960531123850.194937C-100000@BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU>, Tori
<twilliam@BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU> wrote:

> Has anyone used the Stratagene Quik Change protocol? I just started 
> fooling around with it and wanted to know if anyone had had any successes 
> or failures. In my most recent attempt I got lots and lots of colonies. I 
> have to do minipreps to see if they are real but at first glance it seems 
> as though I have too many positives.
> 
> Post replys if you choose but also please e-mail me directly. 
> twilliam@biomed.med.yale.edu
> 
> Thanks much,
> Tori
> 
> ***************************************************************************
>                              Tori D. Williams
>                        twilliam@biomed.med.yale.edu
> 
>      DST SK DK PHD2B SCI 0(+> LIVELONG... AGGIEPRIDE MAC  = ME!!!! :)
> ***************************************************************************

My lab just switched to this systems and in our hands, it works very
well.  Lots of mutants that we were never able to make with pALTER were
generated easily and abundantly with this system.  It may not work quite
as well as advertized, but it is the best we have found.

Mike Forte

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Hello:

I have been trying to construct a filamentous phage display of a protein 
fused to M13 gene III.  In my plasmid/phagemid, the gene III fusion is 
interrupted by an Amber stop codon.  I imagine there is a fair amount of 
protein being produced which is not fused to gene III and which will be 
secreted into the growth medium, instead of being incorporated into a 
phage particle.

Is there a way to precipitate the phage without the free protein?  It 
seems that PEG will precipitate both phage and free protein (60 kDa) out 
of the medium (positive Western signal in the absence of helper phage).  
If not, is there a convenient way to filter out the larger phage from the 
free protein?

Thanks

Daniel Kim
dkim@nmsu.edu


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In article <4opneu$nke@newz.oit.unc.edu>, chunlin xin <xcl@med.unc.edu> wrote:
>Hi, there, I have trouble in DNA ligation, the case below:
>          Insert Fragment: 16.3kb SalI Frag.
>                   Vector: Bscrip-KS(-) SalI cut plasmid or other 
>                           salI cut expression vector
>          It looks like no ligation problem, but in fact, I cannot 
>success to ligate them and transfer them into DH5a no matter I use 
>chemical or electroparation method, Have anybody  ever meet the same problem?
>How can I solve them? Any suggestion is appreciated! Thanks for you attention!

	A 16.3 Kb insertion is quite large.  DH5-alpha, and most other
normal strains of E. coli, cannot reliably maintain plasmids larger than
10 Kb.  (I'm not sure why this is so.)  So your ligation and transformation
may both be successful, but then you are not getting any ampicillin-resistant
colonies.  Can you subclone this fragment?
 
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Richard Waring wrote:
> 
> We need to express truncated versions of an already small protein (137aa)
> In E. coli and have read that it is better to fuse them to another protein
> like DHFR.
> Does anyone know of any references or have any experience in trying this?
> 

Thioredoxin fusions are meant to be good for this purpose.  The 
reference I have is LaValle et al, Biotechnology 11, p187-193. I'm 
pretty sure the plasmids are commercially available.  The address on 
the paper is Genetics Institute, 87 Cambridge Park Drive, Cambridge, 
MA 02140.

I've never tried the system myself, and I should think it's probably 
much like every other Ecoli expression system; pot luck for 
eukaryotic proteins!

Cheers

Paul Digard

Division of Virology
Department of Pathology
University of Cambridge

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From: sghosh@utmem1.utmem.edu (Sourav Ghosh)
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Subject: Mouse epithelial cell library in pJG4-5 Info Request.
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 Hi, 
   I would appreciate any info on availibility of mouse cDNA libraries,
preferably epithelial cell libraries, cloned in pJG4-5 vector (Dr. Brent's
vector) for Yeast two-hybrid screens.
      Thanks.
      Regards,       Sourav

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Subject: Nuclear translocation. How fast does it happen?
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Dear Netters:

     Does anyone know how fast protein translocation occurs in a
cell. I just need an approximate value i.e. seconds, minutes, or
hours... (I am primarily interested in translocation of a nuclear
protein injected into the cytoplasm of frog oocytes.)

    I am co-injecting two proteins into the cytoplasm of a frog
oocytes. They must interact for a period of time in order for me
to see my expected phenotype. However, one of the pair contains
what looks like a nuclear localization domain in addition a
homolog of my protein IS nuclearly localized. I would like to know
if localization occurs at such a high rate, that if my protein is
translocated, would I ever see the expected phenotype.

Thanks in advance,

Mark

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Hey netters!
Does anyone know of the company that sells immunoscope software??
many thanks!!!
--Heidi

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I've had great success with Stratagene's Exo/Mung Bean Deletion Kit.  Mary

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Tim Lansing wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have the sequence of the vector pRK-5 that they could send
> me?  My E-mail address is lansing~tl@glaxo.com.  Many thanks in advance!
> 
> Tim Lansing
> Glaxo Wellcome R & D

Hi!
Goto:
http://www.ebi.ac.uk/srs/wgetz

select EMBL and EMBLNEW, deselect SWISSPROT
type in: pRK-5
click on DO QUERY

and you will get the sequence....

bye
Heinz
-----------------------------------------------------------
            Dipl.Biol. Heinz-Juergen Schaefers
         E-mail: h-j.schaefers@erlangen.netsurf.de

    Friedrich-Alexander-Universitaet Erlangen-Nuernberg
                   Medizinische Klinik IV
           Nephrologische Forschungslaboratorien
                        Loschgestr. 8
                      D-91054 Erlangen
                          Germany

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From: Karel.Wernars@rivm.nl (Karel Wernars)
Subject: Which bacterial species support pUC18/19 replication?
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Dear netters,

A few days ago I was asked by a colleague if I had any information on 
the hostrange of pUC18/19 plasmids. Can these replicate in bacteria 
other then E. coli?. To my idea various enterobacteriaceae can support 
replication e.g. Salmonella and Vibrio.

Digging through literature didn't help me much to confirm this, and I 
only came across lots of reports on modifications of pUC18/19 to prepare 
shuttle vectors that would replicate in a pacticular bacterial host of 
interest.

Can anyone help me with this question and are there any studies 
available on the host range of (unmodified) pUC18/19?.

Thanks,
Karel Wernars (Karel.Wernars@rivm.nl)


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From: rw200@cus.cam.ac.uk (R. Woodward)
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Subject: microsomes
Date: 4 Jun 1996 11:36:26 GMT
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Dear All,

Can anyone tell me the likely speed I would have to spin an
invitro translation spin at in order to pellet microsomes.

Also can I buy sources of microsomes from an origin other than canine?
I saw some where that perpole us quale oviduct as the source of their
microsomal prep.

Robert

R Woodward

Email  rw200@cus.cam.ac.uk

oi

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From: Oivnd Enger <Oivind.Enger@im.uib.no>
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Subject: Help: Alternative to Amersham/USB kit for DNA/RNA isolation
Date: 4 Jun 1996 11:23:01 GMT
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Hi there
I've been using the Amersham/USB kit for simultaneous isolation of DNA and 
RNA from environmental bacteria. However, in my application the bottle with 
the sample buffer goes empty way long before the rest of the kit. Amersham 
on their side refuse to sell this buffer separately and also to give me the 
recipe. Could any of you please help me out by proposing an alternative kit 
or even better an alternative buffer.

thanks in advance
-oivind



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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Does anybody know why it is often difficult for me to make a PCR from a 
PCR product using exactly the same primers I use the first PCR, I mean 
like a nested but without changing primers?. I get cero band.



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: Karel.Wernars@rivm.nl (Karel Wernars)
Subject: Which bacterial species support pUC18/19 replication?
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Dear netters,

A few days ago I was asked by a colleague if I had any information on 
the hostrange of pUC18/19 plasmids. Can these replicate in bacteria 
other then E. coli?. To my idea various enterobacteriaceae can support 
replication e.g. Salmonella and Vibrio.

Digging through literature didn't help me much to confirm this, and I 
only came across lots of reports on modifications of pUC18/19 to prepare 
shuttle vectors that would replicate in a pacticular bacterial host of 
interest.

Can anyone help me with this question and are there any studies 
available on the host range of (unmodified) pUC18/19?.

Thanks,
Karel Wernars (Karel.Wernars@rivm.nl)

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: Nick Jacobsen <jacobsen@cf.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: pcr problem with gc rich sequences
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Hi,
I had similar problems with a very GC rich sequence. I solved the problem 
by first designing primers with high Tms (about 80 C). I then used NEB 
Deep Vent exo- (not designed for PCR but works anyway). The reaction 
conditions were 98 C 5mins, (72 C 1min,98 C 1min)X30. This amplified the 
desired product from a gene that previously didn't want to know.

hope this helps

cheers 
nick 


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: John Brennand <john.brennand@gbapr.zeneca.com>
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Subject: Re: HELP
Date: 4 Jun 1996 08:51:02 GMT
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Tisha

Buy, "Molecular Cloning - A Laboratory Manual", 2nd ed., eds Sambrook, 
Fritsch & Maniatis.

Can order this via Sigma.  It will help get your molecular approaches 
off on the right foot. 

john



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: Tisha  <tfurukaw@du.edu>
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Subject: HELP
Date: 4 Jun 1996 07:57:26 GMT
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I am hoping that there is someone that can point me in the right 
direction to finding the answers to the following questions:

How might I go about substituting 32P-labelled adenine for cold adenine 
in a dsDNA?

Gene X is purified as a cDNA.  How, other than PCR, can I get enough of 
it to sequence, translate in vitro, etc...?

Sea urchins secrete a protease similar to chymotrypsin, which is involved 
in hatching the blastula from its fertilization envelope.  If an antibody 
to bovine chymotrypsin turns out to stop hatching, how could I use it to 
clone the gene for the sea urchin enzyme?

Thank you in advance for anyone who might be able to point me in the 
direction to find the correct answers to these questions.


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: Oivnd Enger <Oivind.Enger@im.uib.no>
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Subject: Help: Alternative to Amersham/USB kit for DNA/RNA isolation
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Hi there
I've been using the Amersham/USB kit for simultaneous isolation of DNA and 
RNA from environmental bacteria. However, in my application the bottle with 
the sample buffer goes empty way long before the rest of the kit. Amersham 
on their side refuse to sell this buffer separately and also to give me the 
recipe. Could any of you please help me out by proposing an alternative kit 
or even better an alternative buffer.

thanks in advance
-oivind



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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Subject: Re: Vertical Agarose gels, help
Date: 4 Jun 1996 20:55:10 GMT
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OK  :-))  Been there, seen those problems, and solved them!  Here's how 
I handle them (this is for 1.5% agarose, 1% glycerol gels 1.5mm thick, 
about 20x20cm).
	(1)  Slippage of the gel from between the plates (boy, is it ever a 
bummer to see your hard-won bandshift samples slide right out of the 
plates and into a sodden little lump an hour into the gel run!)  Before 
pouring the gel, I run a bit of sequencing tape (the yellow electrical 
stuff) across the bottom of the gel just inside the spacer, in a sort 
of 'U' shape...(I'll attempt a bad ASCII art rendition below).  Leave 
these on for the run, as the gel starts to slide it hits them and holds 
the gel in place..but since most of the bottom is unobstructed, current 
flow is not interfered with
									|		|											|		|
									|		|					GEL 		|		|<---- Spacer
									|		|											|		|
									|		|T									T|<-----  Tape runs down, around bottom, and 		
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									-------------------

	(2)  Removal of comb.  Another really frustrating problem...but easily 
solved with a bit of practice.  The problem is that as you remove the 
comb, a vacuum is created in the well and the gel collapses into it, 
causing tears.  Solution:  I use a thin spatula to pry at the glas 
plates as I ease the comb out little by little...you'll have to move the 
spatula around a bit to ensure that all wells get air into them as you 
work the comb out, so don't rush it...but after a few wrecked gels 
you'll get the hang of it.

	Hope these answers solve your problems, they took me a few weeks of 
trial and error to settle on as the final system.  I use these gels 
routinely for bandshifts (my DNA is too large for acrylamide systems), 
and I no longer have any problems with preparing them. There is a bit of 
a problem with getting the wells really clean, bits of agarose tend to 
stay stick in there despite my best attempts to cut them out, and these 
can make the results messier than one might like..but the sytem works.



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: drm21@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (David Micklem)
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Subject: Re: DNA ligation help
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In article <31B43D9D.2E3C@ukcc.uky.edu>, kostya levay
<klevay@ukcc.uky.edu> wrote:

>Here are my 2 cents:
>
>Once I had very bad experience in cloning 12kb insert into Bluescript 
>with transformation into DH5a. Actually, all of purified plasmids 
>contained deletion of different size. Then I realised that the 
>products of leaking promotors? could be harmful for bacteria and lead 
>me into troubles. Interestingly, that DH5a doesn't have "lacIq" in its 
>genotype, i.e. overproduction of lac repressor protein, inhibiting 
>transcription from the lac promoter. Many other cells do have lacIq.
>I transformed my ligation into JM101, got my construct from the first 
>hit and since then DH5a is on my black list (when I have tricky 
>situations). 
>

Another trick for cloning large constructs is to use a low copy number
plasmid.  It may be that in some cases the deletion problem is not due to
toxic leaking promotors but to the load on the bacteria of producing
_huge_ quantities of a large plasmid.  A plasmid that is maintained at
only a few copies per cell is tolerated better - although its more of a
hassle to get LOTS of DNA for subsequent steps.  (But then how much do you
actually need...)

Good luck,

David

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From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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Hello, I'm working on developing an algorithim to determine the DNA 
sequence of a natural polypeptide based on a polypeptide which has suffered
a mutation. I'm analyzing this kind of situations and can't figure out an
efficient method to determine which was the mutation. (insertion, deletion
or a change of nucleotides).
If you are working on something similar, I will appreciate your help.
              Thanks a lot.
                                  Luis Arturo Medrano Soto

Dr. Jose L. Ibave
Facultad de Ciencias Agrotecnologicas
P.O. Box 24
University of Chihuahua
Chihuahua, Chih. Mexico 31000
tel. (voice) 0152+14+146615
     (fax)   0152+14+134888

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: kmorris1@opal.tufts.edu (KELLY THOME)
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Subject: Cell cycle analysis by FACS
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I've done cell cycle analysis on a FACS before, but always with fresh cells. 
Now I'm setting up a time course (block HeLa cells with nocodazole 24 hours,
release, 4 hour timepoints) and along with RNA and protein isolation I want to
do cell cycle analysis.  How do I prepare/store the cells at each time point so
that I can do the analysis at a later time?  This is sort of a last-minute
addition to this experiment and I won't be able to get FACS time for at least a
week or two (I hate crowded machines :-).  Do I just freeze the cell pellet? 
If someone has experience with this sort of thing, I'd appreciate a protocol 
or some suggestions.  Thank you very much!

Kelly Thome  Ph.D.		kmorris1@opal.tufts.edu
Pathology Department    	fax: 617-732-7449
Brigham and Women's Hospital
Boston, MA 02115         	<insert standard disclaimer here>

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: simon <sbe@biochem.usyd.edu.au>
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Subject: Source of TGF-beta1
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We are planning a series of experiments using TGF-beta1 and have been 
startled by the horrendous cost of it as a commercial product. Does 
anyone have a suitable recombinant source of it that they would be 
prepared to share?

Thanks

Simon
-- 
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 Hi,

 I am trying to buy an old RC-5 centrifuge. There is a company
pegasus scientific that sells them refurbished for 6000$ with 
a one year labor and parts warranty. Anybody had any experience with
there products, particularly, the centrifuges? Or is
there other companies with competitive prices ?

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: kostya levay <klevay@ukcc.uky.edu>
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Subject: Re: DNA ligation help
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 13:43:57 +0000
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Here are my 2 cents:

Once I had very bad experience in cloning 12kb insert into Bluescript 
with transformation into DH5a. Actually, all of purified plasmids 
contained deletion of different size. Then I realised that the 
products of leaking promotors? could be harmful for bacteria and lead 
me into troubles. Interestingly, that DH5a doesn't have "lacIq" in its 
genotype, i.e. overproduction of lac repressor protein, inhibiting 
transcription from the lac promoter. Many other cells do have lacIq.
I transformed my ligation into JM101, got my construct from the first 
hit and since then DH5a is on my black list (when I have tricky 
situations). 

Cheers,

Kostya Levay
Plant Pathology
U.of Kentucky, Lexington.

From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: Louis_Croisetiere@UQTR.UQuebec.ca (Louis Croisetiere)
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Subject: Anacystis nidulans vs antibiotics
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Dear All,
              I would like to obtain references or informations regarding
the use of antibiotics in a continuous culture of the cyanobacteria
Anacystis nidulans (also called Synechococcus leopoliensis). 

Thanks in advance,

                        Louis Croisetiere    


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Subject: Re: Vertical Agarose gels, help
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mlush@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Mr. M.J. Lush) wrote:
 :-) does chilling the gel when removeing
>the comb help?

I have found that cooling the gel increases the chance of the gel 
slipping out. Dont make the wells any deeper than necessary is the best 
way to avoid problems getting the comb out...otherwise..BE PATIENT!!! (If 
you need to load a large sample, you need to invest some time getting the 
comb out of the well!)


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: dmthomas@orion.oac.uci.edu (Didier Thomas)
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Subject: Swiss 3T3 transfection
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Can someone tell me what is the best method to transfect Swiss 3T3. I have
tried the calcium phosphate method, but it does not work.
Thanks.

-- 
Didier Thomas
University of California, Irvine
College of Medicine
Dept. of Biological Chemistry
Med. Sci. I, Room D214
Irvine, CA 92717
USA

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We have used the LiCor sequencer with great success. It routinely reads 
800bp to 99%+ accuracy. Our main reason for purchasing the LiCor over the 
ALF (we faced the same choice) was maintenance cost. The LiCor uses a 
lower power laser, more inexpensive plates, and is a mechanically simpler 
machine. We believe that the LiCor will run longer without breaking down, 
and repairs will be cheaper if it does break down (we can repair many 
items ourselves due to the mechanical simplicity of the system). We did 
not buy the service contract, as we did not think it was needed, and so 
far, after a year and a half of reasonably heavy use by inexperienced 
undergraduate and high school student users, we have had no problems.

Support is outstanding. There is always someone at the end of a phone to 
answer a question. I am also using it for RAPDs, and it is looking good 
so far (we are just starting with this analysis..but we are getting 
data).

The machine is easy to use, and while it has a fully automatic setting, 
we are beginning to use a more manual reading method as we always check 
the auto reads..so why not read them ourselves in the first place! The 
autorad-like image is very easy to read manually.


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: u9310871@MUSS.CIS.MCMASTER.CA ("A.S. Sohal")
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Hi! I am experimenting with some new site-directed mutagenesis protocols 
and was wondering if anybody has had any success.  The ones I am talking 
about are the MORPH single-primer site-directed mutagenesis protocol from 
5 prime 3 prime and the Chameleon protocol from Stratagene.  I am having 
troubles isolating my "mutated" plasmid from the mut S cells although 
they have become amp resistant meaning that the transformation must have 
been successful.  If someone could help me I would very grateful.

Thanx


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: mdpjr@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Phil Robinson)
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Subject: Re: Acrylamide Gel setting too quickly  -- IDEAS??
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macnevin@ix.netcom.com (Brian MacNevin) wrote:

>Well, when I mix up my acrylamide gel solution and begin pipetting it
>between the glass plates for electrophoresis, I have found that it
>starts to set before I can get it evenly dispersed in the plates. 
>	My first thought is that this might be due to the temp of the
>solution.  It seems to me that I don't have this problem if the
>solution is allowed to cool a little before adding the final solution.
>I was wonderin if anyone else has had these problems and if it really
>is due to the temp of the solution?

Seems like too much APS and/or TEMED.  Start by reducing the TEMED.
Set up little test lots in eppendorf tubes and see how long they take
to set.  Something like 10-20 min should be fine.  

However, we approach the problem by cooling the acrylamide solutions
on ice.  We pour gradients and to prevent any chance of it setting in
our gradient mixer or tubing, we and many others, find that keeping
the gel solution on ice prior to pouring significantly slows down
polymerisation rates.  And old and well-known trick...  Should not be
necessary for single-percent acrylamide, although we do it there too -
out of habit more than anything.

Phil				Newcastle	Australia



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Jose,

    You have to send an unsubscribe message to "biosci-server@net.bio.net", not 
to the discussion group itself.

    Paul.


> unsubscribe
> 
> Dr. Jose L. Ibave
> Facultad de Ciencias Agrotecnologicas
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> 



From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: lhom@nature.berkeley.edu (Louis Hom)
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I believe Nilabh Shastri at UC Berkeley has expressed an octapeptide in
mammalian cells.  Or maybe an octapeptide plus the ATG Met.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Lou Hom >K '93		       	    	"If brevity be the soul of wit, 
lhom@nature.berkeley.edu  			   play on!" 
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom	 

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Hi! My name is Avtar.  I am experimenting with the MORPH single-primer 
site-directed mutagenesis kit and the Chameleon double-stranded 
site-directed mutagenesis kit from Stratagene.  I was wondering if 
anybody has been able to get these protocols to work.  I am having 
trouble isolating my plasmid after transformation into the mut S cells 
using a standard alkaline lysis mini-prep protocol.  I hopt someone can 
help me.

Thanx


From owner-methds-reagnts@net.bio.net Mon Jun 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: graham@biodec.wustl.edu (James Graham)
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Subject: Re: TKO miniflourometer (long)
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Alexander,

In my opinion, Philips comments, while very valuable to those who have 
useable TK100's, fall a little short in terms of their ability to serve as a 
"FAQ" on the TK100. Firstly, he describes relatively minor problems (ie. 
2X discrepency with UV absorbance quantitation) and an "overflourescence" 
problem, while what I have consitently seen is the tendency to intermitently
read a particular sample as a "blank", which then showed excellent yield 
following agarose gel electrophoresis, along with the good utility 
described. Philip describes problems involving rather finer points in 
quantitation, rather than the outright failures described in the 
newsgroup archive. (I am personally familiar with 5 units, three that  
are unreliable to the point of being unusuable, and two which are in 
routine reportedly successful use across two departments I have been in.)

The presence of dust, while certainly a confounding aspect (particularily
when it is suggested that it is so difficult to exclude) may be related
to some problems, but seems to me an unlikely "explanation", particularily
when far more sensitive experiments are being carried out sucessfully in
the same laboratories by the same hands. The assay procedure itself, so
often blamed, is really quite simple acutally, in comparison to many routine
laboratory procedures. I fail to find user error a likely explanation
for the widespread failure of the intstrument reported in the newsgroup
archives, barring a tenuous potential for proper beam alignment in
terms of cuvette positioning or other unacceptable design problem .

While signficant sensitivity to traces of contaminants may be at the
heart of the problem(s), the maufuacturer and others have reported that
the Hoest quantitation itself is relative insensitive to a range of
common laboratory reagents likley encountered (eg. SDS, phenol,
proteins, etc.).

Finally, Phillipe's comments neglect to mention that the problem with
the TK100 was acknowledged by Hoeffer to an extent at one time, at least
in terms of a "reconditioning" of some kind offered to users at
significantadditional relative expense. Any FAQ would have to include some
reference to whatever this still unexplained recall involved.

(Failing to observe the reported problem, is indeed negative
evidence -a type of data usually found of limited utility in
defining reported phenomena.)

Regards,
Jim
J. Graham PhD
Biology Department
Washington University of St. Louis

Philip wrote:

 I certainly can't shed much light on the problems of individual machines that
I haven't personally used, but I have used 3 different TKO miniflourometers
bought over a long period with I believe reasonable results i.e. the amounts
of DNA we estimate by the TKO seem to roughly agree with what we see on a gel
following EB staining.  So why do some people have problems?  Certainly one
problem is dust.  If you do not dispense the reagent from a closed container
i.e. Repipette it is very difficult to get good results. Pipette tips can 
be a problem.  They can be sterile and still have dust on them.  The 
problem of dust interferring with any fluorescenct technique is well known.
     A second problem is that there can be chemical interference.  The most
dramatic example I know of I discovered myself recently.  I wanted to follow
the binding of DNA in an alkali miniprep to glass beads to see if binding was
quantitative.  I got suspiciously high readings for the amount of "DNA"  left
in the supernatant. As a control I mixed NaOH and SDS with the standard GET
(or TEG as some call it) buffer used in alkali minipreps and then  added the
usual 5 M KOAc reagent to obtain the usual white precipitate which I spun 
out. I then assayed the amount of "DNA" in this supernatant.  I emphasize 
that this was a completely mock miniprep.  No cells were present.  To my 
surprise I got very high fluorescence.  So there it seems there is some 
chemical reaction between GET, NaOH, SDS, and KOAc that can masquerade as 
"DNA" byfluorescence. I only did this once, so I'd appreciate it if 
someone anyone wants to repeat this little experiment and see if they 
confirm my result.  However, I tentatively conclude that a very common 
procedure can lead to false results. I hasten to add that after washing 
and elution of the DNA from the glass beads, I got a reasonable value for 
the amount of DNA.
      A third problem is that many common miniprep methods yield DNA that is
probably contaminated with RNA.  When you consider that there is about 10x
more RNA than DNA in a cell, a procedure that gets rid of 90% of the RNA 
still leaves equal amounts of DNA and RNA.  Since plasmid DNA is only a 
fraction of the total DNA there is plenty of room for error.  When we 
first set up our automated sequencing facility we found that consistently 
the TKO gave lower readings than A260 for DNA content.  Usually the 
difference was less than 2-fold, but in some preps the differences were 
as much as 5 or 10 fold.  My impression (not a careful study!) is that as 
folks got better at making miniprep DNA the sequencing results improved 
and the discrepency between the fluorometer and A260 tended to get less.  
Many workers think that if they use RNase or CsCl the resulting DNA is 
free of RNA.  Probably not so.  EB is a very insensitive way of looking 
at RNA on a gel, and since pancreatic RNase only cleaves at U,C, 
polypurine runs will lead to rather large fragments of RNA contaminating 
your DNA.  (I assume this is the material that is so nicely removed by 
the various ion exchange and glass methods.)  Note that RNA oligos
will not pellet in CsCl, so that large pellet of RNA you may see in the 
bottom of your tube does not mean there is no RNA contamination.  I know 
of at least one paper in which the authors examined standard miniprep DNA 
by HPLC and found a large peak of A260 absorbing material that was not 
plasmid DNA.  In some organisms like yeast, you can RNase and phenol 
extract and get rediculously large amounts of RNA in preps of chromosomal 
DNA which can only be removed by a second RNAse treatment after the bulk 
of protein and RNA are removed.  So if  you demand that the TKO give you 
results consistent with UV absorbance measurements, you are are probably 
not playing fair.
      Another problem is that one should not expect these fluorescence
measurements to be +/- 10%-at least not without a lot of work.  I wonder if
people who estimate DNA concentration by running gels think that 
technique is +/- 10%.  I hope not.  I always rezero the machine just 
before taking a reading, and I'd say that results are usually +/- 20% or 
better.  Do people really need better for most molecular biology experiments?
      I do not believe the electronics of the machines I have seen are
unstable.  If they were, do you think you would be able to get consistent
results with the calf thymus DNA standards?  Just look at the display 
with no sample in the cuvette.  On the machines I use, it is quite stable for
reasonable periods.  Of course, if you let the DNA dye complex stay in the
cuvette being bombarded by UV for many minutes, you will see the display
drift, but this is probably fluorescent bleaching not instability of the
machine.
      In summary, I find the TKO to be a great time saver in the lab.  It
has to be used with care and understanding like any highly sensitive
technique.  There are traps for the unwary which I have discussed, but maybe
some of you ought to get your machines off the shelf one last time, and 
see if after considering some of the points I've raised it works for you.

Usual disclaimers.

Philip Carl
Res. Assoc. Prof. of Pharmacology
UNC Chapel Hill





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test

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benedik@uh.edu (Michael Benedik) wrote:
>In article <graham.833835674@biodec.wustl.edu>
>graham@biodec.wustl.edu (James Graham) writes:
>
snip
 
>> When one grows several broth batch cultures of a single bacterial 
>> strain inoculated from say an saturated overnight culture, a single 
>> colony, or from a frozen glycerol stock, one will notice a variety of 
>> differences between the two cultures, at least in terms of iducability of 
>> promoters, or perhaps the transformation efficiency of subsequently prepared 
>> calcium competent cells. Rumor has it that a two-dimensional PAGE 
>> analysis of identically cultured cellls prepared from two cultures 
>> originating from slightly different inocula will show considerable 
>> differences, far beyond that which could be attributed to differences 
>> among any nondividing cells originally introduced.
>> 

snip

>Good observations. I too have been wondering similar things. We notice
>that we get very different levels of expression when we dilute an
>overnight culture 10e3-fold  compared to 10e6-fold. (Looking at
>expression of extracellular nuclease from Serratia marcescens). And
>these are washed cells so it isn't carry over of some growth medium
>component.
>
>Obviously you should rule out differences in carry over of signal
>molecules in the growth medium. 
>
>My guess it is a very slow turnover of some intracellular signal. But
>we have not spend any time looking at number of generations or of
>rates.
>
This sounds very much like the changes in cultures that occur when they 
are grown in continuous cultures - for example, growing them for long 
periods at growth rates approaching mu max seems to select for 
"turbo-bacteria" with much higher mu max values than the original 
inoculum, growing them with low levels of antibiotics gradually produces 
strains that can tolerate higher levels of antibiotics, etc. I've always 
believed that its because any "pure culture" is actually a collection of 
not quite identical bacteria - there will be a lot of the type that most 
suit the particular growth conditions, but low numbers of others carrying 
properties that are not really needed. Change the conditions (e.g. by 
increasing the growth rate), and you favour one of the minority 
populations which then becomes dominant. With the continuous cultures, 
it's much more pronounced in heterotrophs than obligate autotrophs. 
Isn't there a similar phenomenon with pathogens losing their 
path