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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Wed Oct 07 23:00:00 1998
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From: bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu (Bernard P. Murray, PhD)
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Subject: Re: Modeling apps. for the classroom?
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In article <361c5e99$1$xnlawnl$mr2ice@news.igalaxy.net>,
kayspamjay@igalaxy.net wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am interested in bringing modeling into my general and (survey) organic
> classes, and need some advice.  My foremost goal is simply generating an
> electrostatic potential surface for something like NAD+ which can then be
> used in conjunction with an enzyme's NAD+ binding site as a demonstration of
> intermolecular interactions.  I hope to scale this into individualized
> student projects.  
> 
> I am very uncertain about what programs are most suitable for this small
> molecule goal.  I would like to obtain output files which are most likely
> usable by a variety of visualization/manipulation apps (eg.
> SPOCK/RasMol/etc.) in conjunction with PDB's, etc.  

I'm not sure if this is what you want but I start with 3 D
coordinates for the small molecule, either from structures
grabbed from the net or those generated "de novo" using
the CORINA facility on the Gasteiger page;

http://www2.ccc.uni-erlangen.de/services/3d.html

To do this you have to be able to write your molecule in
SMILES format but this is quite fun to learn and use.

I then use MOPAC 6.0 to optimise the structure and to generate
the partial charges.  I actually use the version for DOS
(compiled under the DJGPP environment) but there are Linux
versions out there.  I have some AWK scripts for interconverting
file formats (Babel wasn't quite enough).
     This may seem like a trip around the houses but the price
is perfect and the minimisation can be run on a cheapo PC.
There is a wide variety of programs for visualising MOPAC
generated structures.
     I hope that this helps,
          Bernard
-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
Dept. Cell. Mol. Pharmacol., UCSF, San Francisco, USA

From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Wed Oct 07 23:00:00 1998
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Hello,

I am interested in bringing modeling into my general and (survey) organic
classes, and need some advice.  My foremost goal is simply generating an
electrostatic potential surface for something like NAD+ which can then be
used in conjunction with an enzyme's NAD+ binding site as a demonstration of
intermolecular interactions.  I hope to scale this into individualized
student projects.  

I am very uncertain about what programs are most suitable for this small
molecule goal.  I would like to obtain output files which are most likely
usable by a variety of visualization/manipulation apps (eg.
SPOCK/RasMol/etc.) in conjunction with PDB's, etc.  

While I can certainly understand the kinds of things which are involved in
generating an overall electronic picture of a molecule, I can't begin to
guess what parameters might be appropriately used, discarded, or changed for
a given system.  My training was not in this area!  Yet a combination such
as Molden/Gamess seems possible, if I had a set of default parameters which
would work reasonably well for most molecules until I get my feet on the
ground.

Is this a workable idea??

We have little money available, so a commercial solution
(HyperChem/Spartan?) is less desirable.  What $$ exists is going towards
some well-powered PC's running Linux (or our institutional NT, if no other
choice is there).  Do these programs generate proprietary output formats if
no other solution exists?

I am sorry for the length of this note, but do appreciate any input from
you.


Dr. Kenward Vaughan
Professor of Chemistry
Bakersfield College
kvaughan@bc.cc.ca.us (work)
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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Thu Oct 08 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Gabor E. Tusnady" <tusi@enzim.hu>
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Dear Colleague,

I'm pleased to announce that a new prediction server for transmembrane
helices and topology prediction is available at 

				http://www.enzim.hu/hmmtop

The program description can be found at the Web site above, as well. 
The program is the adaptation of our new prediction method described in

G.E.Tusnady and I. Simon (1998)
	Principles Governing Amino Acid Composition of Integral Membrane 
	Proteins: Application to Topology Prediction
	J. Mol. Biol. 283, (2), 489-506.

If you have any questions or problem, don't hesitate to e-mail me 
(tusi@enzim.hu).

Best regards

Gabor E. Tusnady


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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Sun Oct 11 23:00:00 1998
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From: berkeley@writeme.com
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Subject: Help, Rasmol installation on Linux
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Hi,

I am having trouble installing Rasmol 2.6b2 on Redhad Linux 5.1 running
on a Dec Alpha.
(ftp://marlin.bio.umass.edu/pub/shareware/rasmol/distrib/RasMol26b2.tar.gz)


Has anybody had similar problems?

This is what i get after doing everything I'm supposed to do. ########## 2 %
make gcc -O2  -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/include  -Dlinux -D__alpha__
-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE
-D_SVID_SOURCE	-DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO
-DRASMOLDIR=\"/usr/home/sjlee/bin/RasMol2/\" -DEIGHTBIT  -c rasmol.c -o
rasmol.o rasmol.c: In function `OpenConnection': rasmol.c:329: invalid use of
undefined type `struct fd_set' rasmol.c: In function `CloseConnection':
rasmol.c:345: invalid use of undefined type `struct fd_set' rasmol.c: In
function `InitTerminal': rasmol.c:394: warning: type mismatch in implicit
declaration for built-in function `memset' rasmol.c:395: invalid use of
undefined type `struct fd_set' rasmol.c:401: invalid use of undefined type
`struct fd_set' rasmol.c:411: invalid use of undefined type `struct fd_set'
rasmol.c: In function `FetchCharacter': rasmol.c:497: `WaitSet' has an
incomplete type rasmol.c:503: warning: passing arg 2 of `select' from
incompatible pointer type rasmol.c:503: warning: passing arg 3 of `select'
from incompatible pointer type rasmol.c:503: warning: passing arg 4 of
`select' from incompatible pointer type rasmol.c:508: invalid use of
undefined type `struct fd_set' rasmol.c:512: invalid use of undefined type
`struct fd_set' rasmol.c:516: invalid use of undefined type `struct fd_set'
rasmol.c: At top level: rasmol.c:112: storage size of `OrigWaitSet' isn't
known rasmol.c:113: storage size of `WaitSet' isn't known make: ***
[rasmol.o] Error 1

###########


Thanks for reading this far.
I really appreciate your help.
SJ

--
Sung-Joo Lee
Chakraborty Group, College of Chemistry
Graduate Group in Biophysics
University of California, Berkeley




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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Mon Oct 12 23:00:00 1998
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From: Arlin Stoltzfus <arlin@thidwick.biochem.dal.ca>
Newsgroups: bionet.molec-model
Subject: Post-doctoral positions in computational studies of evolution (CARB, Stoltzfus)
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---------------  Second announcement, 12 Oct 1998 -----------------

POST-DOCTORAL POSITIONS in molecular evolution, bioinformatics, 
evolutionary genetics

Two post-doctoral positions in computational studies of evolution 
are available at CARB*.  Ongoing and planned research relates to: 
i) the evolutionary history of introns and intron-containing genes 
in eukaryotes; ii) development of software tools and database 
systems tailored for molecular evolution research; and iii) 
theoretical and empirical studies of mutational biases as a cause 
of directional evolution.  For background and further information, 
please check the pages at http://is.dal.ca/~arlin/CARB and 
refer any questions to me (arlin@carb.nist.gov).

Applicants should have skill in computer programming or mathematical
modelling, along with research experience with computational
approaches to problems in evolution or molecular biology.  Yearly 
salary will be 28-35K. There is no citizenship requirement.  The 
positions may begin any time in 1999.  To apply, send a c.v., a 
2-page description of relevant research experience & interests, 
and contact information for 2 references to an appropriate address 
below.  Electronic applications are acceptable.  Review of applications 
will begin 13 November, and continue until the positions are filled. 

Arlin Stoltzfus, Ph.D. 
Research Biologist, NIST 
Adjunct Asst. Prof., UMBI
 email: arlin@carb.nist.gov; phone: 902 494-2968; fax: 902 494-1355
 mail (current): Biochemistry, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS B3H 4H7 
                 CANADA
 mail (pending): CARB, 9600 Gudelsky Drive, Rockville, MD 20850

---------
* The Center for Advanced Research in Biotechnology, or CARB
(http://www.carb.nist.gov), is a joint research center of the
National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the
University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute (UMBI).  CARB is
located in Rockville, Maryland, 20 miles northwest of DC. Basic
research at CARB is both theoretical and experimental, and focusses
on macromolecular structure and function.  CARB is an Equal 
Opportunity/Affirmative Action Employer. Women and minority 
candidates are encouraged to apply.

From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Mon Oct 12 23:00:00 1998
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From: mcclean@plains.nodak.edu
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Subject: What can be said when comparing two predicted structures
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:37:36 GMT
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 My research group has cloned a series of kinase-related sequences
using PCR amplification.  We next used 3'Race (a procedure that
preferentially amplifes cDNAs related to a targeted primer sequence)
to obtain nearly the entire sequence of one class of the
kinase-related sequences.  Our initial primers targeted a single class
of kinase (a disease resistance gene in plants).  The question we
wished to address was whether this approach would select kinases
related to our gene of interest or would kinases in general be
amplified.  To address this question we used SWISS-MODEL to develop
homology-based protein models of the disease resistance gene and the
amplified kinase sequences.  We removed the six amino acids from the
amino terminal end of the disease resistance genes and all of the
domain XI before doing the comparisons.  The six amino acids were
removed so the two sequences started at the same amino acid, and
domain XI was removed because it is the most variable region in
kinases.  Therefore we were asking the question: how similar are the
predicted 3D structes of the two core sequences?

 When we used SWISS-MODEL, the same five sequences were selected from
the protein data base for modeling purposes.  When we compared these
to structures to the structure of alpha, cyclic AMP dependent protein
kinase, we noted that our two seqeunces had similar alpha helix and
beta chain changes relative to the other kinase.  We next compared the
structures of these two proteins to 13 other plant protein kinases
which have diverse functions, but known related to disease resistance.
(Similar trucations were performed on these kinases.)  Our two
sequences appeared to be unique from these other kinases.  When the
models of the two sequences are compared we noted only a few changes.
The most notable change was in domain VIII, a domain shown by yeast
two-hybrid analysis to be critical for the fucntion of this disease
resistance protein.

 I am in the process of writing a manuscript describing these
experiments and would like to know what those in the field of protein
modeling feel is the appropriate modeling information to present in
the manuscript.  My field is plant molecular genetics, so I a new the
modeling field.  So far our narrative describes the specific alpha
helix and beta sheet changes.  Our figure shows where SWISS-MODEL
places these structures in the two sequences.  What more can we add to
strengthen the manuscript.

 I would like to thank any person who repsonds in advance.  Hope this
is not too simple of a question.  Feel free to respond here or via
e-mail.

Phil McClean
Dept of Plant Sciences
North Dakota State University
mcclean@plains.nodak.edu



From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Tue Oct 13 23:00:00 1998
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From: wstzou@GATE.SINICA.EDU.TW (Wen-shyong Tzou)
Newsgroups: bionet.molec-model
Subject: DNA simulation with reduced phosphate charge
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Dear Modellers:

	I am doing a simulation of DNA. I am going to use solvent 
approximation (dielectric constant epsilon = r) and reduced charge of
phosphate group. For the reduced charge of phosphate, I can only find a paper
titled "NMR studies and restrained-molecular-dynamics calculations of a long 
A+T-rich stretch in DNA. Effects of phosphate charge and solvent 
approximations" appearing in Eur. J. Biochem vol 234, p832-842 (1995). In 
that paper, phosphate group charge is reduced from -1.2e to -0.32e. Can
somebody suggest me on the theoretic basis of charge reduction or similar 
readings about this method ?

	Thank you very much for your help

	Wen-Shyong Tzou


       |                  Wen-Shyong Tzou
       |           /~~\   Ph.D. candidate
       | *        /   /   Laboratory for Computer Modeling of Biomolecules
       /         /    \	  Institute of Biomedical Sciences
      /         /      \  Academia Sinica,Nankang
     / *       /       |  Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C.
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  |          \      /     Phone: (886)-2-27899033
  /           \    /      Fax:   (886)-2-27887641
_/             |  /
               |~|


From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Tue Oct 13 23:00:00 1998
From: adam@bigbro.biophys.cornell.edu (Adam C. Finnefrock)
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berkeley@writeme.com writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I am having trouble installing Rasmol 2.6b2 on Redhad Linux 5.1 running
> on a Dec Alpha.
> (ftp://marlin.bio.umass.edu/pub/shareware/rasmol/distrib/RasMol26b2.tar.gz)
> 
> 
> Has anybody had similar problems?
> 
> This is what i get after doing everything I'm supposed to do. ########## 2 %
> make gcc -O2  -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/include  -Dlinux -D__alpha__
> -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L -D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500L -D_BSD_SOURCE
> 
[ deleted ... ]

Okay, it looks like the main problem is that "fd_set" is unknown.  If you
haven't already done so, you should grep through the source and see if that's
defined somewhere.  Most probably, you're missing some library.  You should
also crosspost to *one* of the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups, probably "help".

Please let the maintainers know if you find the problem!


Adam

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Subject: Re: Help Rasmol installation on Linux
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Hi,
>
>I am having trouble installing Rasmol 2.6b2 on Redhad Linux 5.1 running
>on a Dec Alpha.
>(ftp://marlin.bio.umass.edu/pub/shareware/rasmol/distrib/RasMol26b2.tar.gz)
>
I had the same problem and asked on the RasMol mailing list: 
Here is the answer:

1) ftp://nexus.roko.goe.net/pub/rasmol
2) in rasmol.h
   #define USE_FD_SET_TYPE
3) xmkmf and make

it works - really....

bye
andreas


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Subject: virus surface
Date: 15 Oct 1998 12:18:13 GMT
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hi,

who knews a software to display/model the complete virus surface
if I get a PDB source file out of the PDB database? (Looking at 
this PDB source I do only see a small segment of the virus.)

bye andreas


From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Fri Oct 16 23:00:00 1998
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From: Jim Phillips <jim@ks.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molec-model,bionet.software,bionet.software.x-plor
Subject: Parallel MD Program NAMD 2.0b2 Available
Date: 16 Oct 1998 19:20:05 -0700
Organization: University of Illinois
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The Theoretical Biophysics Group at the University of Illinois is proud
to announce the public release of a new version of the parallel
molecular
dynamics simulation program NAMD.  NAMD2 is a major improvement over
its predecessor, NAMD 1.5, in both computation speed and simulation
features.

This release is a binary-only beta version of NAMD2.  It has already
received extensive testing inside our group, but we still have some
additional testing and code cleanup before releasing the source.
Nevertheless, we believe it to be stable, and think you will find it a
significant improvement over NAMD 1.5.

NAMD2 binaries for Linux, HP-UX, Solaris, SGI Origin and the T3E are
available at ftp://ftp.ks.uiuc.edu/pub/mdscope/namd2/bin/.  For more
information see http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/Namd2.html
and direct questions or comments to namd@ks.uiuc.edu.

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NAMD 2.0 New Features

- Supports periodic and non-periodic MD simulations.

- Can use DPME for full electrostatics for periodic simulations, and
DPMTA for non-periodic simulations.  Cutoff simulations are also
supported.

- Triple timestepping.

- Rigid bonds to hydrogen atoms.

- Fixed atoms (Atoms which are constrained not to move do not have
forces calculated for them).

- Berendsen and Langevin piston constant pressure methods.

- Steered Molecular Dynamics (SMD).

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Problems?

For problems or questions, send email to namd@ks.uiuc.edu.  If you
think you have found a bug, please include what machine you are
running on, and, if possible, a dump of the program output and/or a
copy of your input files.  As a beta release, we expect you will find
a few rough edges in the program or documentation.  Your feedback will
help us to fix these.

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NAMD2 Known Deficiencies

- NAMD2 will currently not run if the number of processors exceeds
the number of patches in the system.  This typically only results when
you use a large number of processors and a large cutoff.

- Do not use constant-pressure with multiple timestepping or rigid
bonds.

- DPME has not yet received extensive testing.

- NAMD2 requires the X-PLOR package to produce the .psf and .par input
files.  If you don't have X-PLOR, you probably can't use NAMD2 yet.
See http://xplor.csb.yale.edu/xplor-info/xplor-info.html for
information.

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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Sat Oct 17 23:00:00 1998
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From: herwin@gmu.edu (Harry Erwin)
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Subject: Q: How DO You Search for an Entry Level Position?
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:59:46 -0400
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I'm trying to help my son find an entry-level position in computational
biology in the USA.  He has a new degree in biomedical science, a
background in C++ programming, and a senior project that computed
primer-template bonding temperatures using a nearest-neighbor algorithm.
He's deferring grad school until he knows what specialized field he
wants to work in.  He's been e-mailing resumes to the human resources
offices of companies on the web, but I have the impression that he's
getting lost in the hundreds of resumes they must get that way.  I'm
sure there's a lot of research labs that could use his skills, but most
of them don't post their openings on the web.  Is there a better way to
do this?

-- 
Harry Erwin, Web Page: http://mason.gmu.edu/~herwin 
Senior Software Analyst supporting the FAA, PhD candidate in 
computational neuroscience--modeling how bats echolocate--and 
lecturer for CS 211 (data structures and advanced C++).

From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Sun Oct 18 23:00:00 1998
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I'm trying to help my son find an entry-level position in computational
biology in the USA.  He has a new degree in biomedical science, a
background in C++ programming, and a senior project that computed
primer-template bonding temperatures using a nearest-neighbor algorithm.
He's deferring grad school until he knows what specialized field he
wants to work in.  He's been e-mailing resumes to the human resources
offices of companies on the web, but I have the impression that he's
getting lost in the hundreds of resumes they must get that way.  I'm
sure there's a lot of research labs that could use his skills, but most
of them don't post their openings on the web.  Is there a better way to
do this?

-- 
Harry Erwin, Web Page: http://mason.gmu.edu/~herwin 
Senior Software Analyst supporting the FAA, PhD candidate in 
computational neuroscience--modeling how bats echolocate--and 
lecturer for CS 211 (data structures and advanced C++).


From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Mon Oct 19 23:00:00 1998
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From: greg@franklin.burnham-inst.org (Dr. Greg Quinn)
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Harry Erwin (herwin@gmu.edu) wrote:
: I'm trying to help my son find an entry-level position in computational
: biology in the USA.  He has a new degree in biomedical science, a
: background in C++ programming, and a senior project that computed
: primer-template bonding temperatures using a nearest-neighbor algorithm.
: He's deferring grad school until he knows what specialized field he
: wants to work in.  He's been e-mailing resumes to the human resources
: offices of companies on the web, but I have the impression that he's
: getting lost in the hundreds of resumes they must get that way.  I'm
: sure there's a lot of research labs that could use his skills, but most
: of them don't post their openings on the web.  Is there a better way to
: do this?
: 
: -- 
: Harry Erwin, Web Page: http://mason.gmu.edu/~herwin 
: Senior Software Analyst supporting the FAA, PhD candidate in 
: computational neuroscience--modeling how bats echolocate--and 
: lecturer for CS 211 (data structures and advanced C++).
: 

Harry, you may want to check the bionet.jobs.offered group. There's 
usually an assortment of computational biology positions to be had.

There's a real need for computational biologists, though many of the 
positions do seek someone with a few years lab experience and many
require a Ph.D. If I had to give my personal opinion, it would be that
unless your son is desperately interested in getting a Ph.D., try to get 
into a computational position with his present qualifications (plus some 
lab experience) or a Masters degree at most. I wouldn't advise anyone to get 
a Ph.D. simply to get into computational biology, and in fact with
the current career/funding structure, I wouldn't advise anyone to get a bio 
Ph.D., period. If he wants any real financial/career stability, stick with the
computing/biocomputing, which in career terms has 'outs' into mainstream 
commerce. Most of the Ph.D. computational biology positions advertised by 
companies (and all the ones that I have been contacted about)
are usually looking for someone to do very light programming 
(PERL scripting, etc) and a ton of data analysis, which your son may or may 
not find interesting. Any real  programmer worth his salt won't find such 
a situation very satisfying, so your son needs to really think this through.

Good luck with your search.

-- 
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY PERSONAL VIEWS AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER
*****************************************
Computational Biology Group
The Burnham Institute
(formerly La Jolla Cancer Research Inst.)
12901 North Torrey Pines road
La Jolla
CA92037
 
Phone:(619) 646 3103
Email: greg@franklin.ljcrf.edu
http://franklin.ljcrf.edu/greg
http://www.greg.com/
*****************************************

From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Tue Oct 20 23:00:00 1998
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NCSA/U of I Computational Biology Group
Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Title: Visiting Research Programmer/Systems Analyst

The Computational Biology Group at NCSA/University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign (bioweb.ncsa.uiuc.edu) is seeking a visiting research
programmer/systems analyst.  The project funding this position is at the
beginning stage of three-year funding.

Position Description: The Computational Biology Group has developed the
Biology Workbench, a Web-based computational environment for
bioinformatics.  The new project involves integrating simulation programs
for biological molecules, such as molecular dynamics, Monte Carlo, Brownian
dynamics, and drift-diffusion theory, into the Workbench environment.
Research programming is needed both to integrate these methodologies into
the Workbench environment, and for algorithmic refinement and development
of the methodologies themselves.

The successful candidate will be encouraged to broaden his/her technical 
skills and scientific knowledge on the job. This position will provide a
great opportunity to work at the cutting edge at the development of a new
Web-based computational architecture that NCSA director Larry Smarr has
termed a "new way of computing for the 21st century." 

Qualifications: The ideal candidate will be a versatile programmer, since
both Web interfaces and simulation algorithms are involved in the project.
Experience in scientific programming is a plus.  The person who assumes
this positon will join a dynamic team of senior scientists, postdocs,
programmers, and students who are working in various aspects of
computational biology.     

Application information: The position is available immediately.  It will be
open until a suitable candidate is found. 
Minority and women candidates are strongly encouraged to apply.  
Please send a resume (electronic mail preferred)including three references to:

Eric Jakobsson
jake@ncsa.uiuc.edu 
Beckman Institute
405 N. Mathews Ave
Urbana, IL 61801


From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Thu Oct 22 23:00:00 1998
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From: reh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robin E Holbrook)
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Subject: Announcing NATO ASI, Spring '99
Date: 23 Oct 1998 15:48:22 -0700
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 Dynamics, Structure and Function of Biological Macromolecules
4th Course of the International School of Structural Biology and Magnetic
 Resonance - a NATO Advanced Study Institute

Location:  Ettore Majorana Centre for Scientific Culture, Erice, Italy
Dates:  May 25-June 5, 1999
Number of working days:  10 days

Objective:  To summarize the current state of the field of protein studies 
focusing on the type of information that can be obtained about dynamic 
processes in proteins by NMR and other physical methods and the implications 
for protein and drug design.

Fee:  $1,200 includes Board and Lodging to be arranged by the Centre.  Some 
financial aid available and any request for aid should be indicated in the 
application.  Full support will NOT be available, so please indicate the 
specific amount of financial aid necessary to attend.

Directors:
-Oleg Jardetzky, Professor, Department of Molecular Pharmacology, 
Stanford University School of Medicine, Stanford, CA  94305-5337, USA.  
Tel:  (+1) 650/723-6153, Fax:  (+1) 650/723-2253, Email:  
jardetzky@stanford.edu
-Jean-Francois Lefevre, Professor, ESBS, Louis Pasteur University, 
Bld. Sebastien Brant, 67400 Strasbourg-Illkirch, France.  
Tel:  (+33) 388 65 52 69, Fax:  (+33) 388 65 53 43, Email:  
lefevre@bali.u-strasbg.fr

To apply contact Course Registrar:  Ms. Robin Holbrook
Fax: (1) 650/723-3353
Tel:  (1) 650/723-6270
Email:  reh@stanford.edu
URL:  http:// www-leland.stanford.edu/~reh/Erice*99.html

No application form is required but applicants must submit:

1) date and place of birth and nationality
2) degree and other academic qualifications
3) list of publications 
4) present position and work address, fax and phone numbers and email address

Young applicants with only a few years of experience in the field should 
arrange for a letter of recommendation from the head of their research group.

Applicants interested in financial aid should also send an abstract of 
current research interest.  Selected papers will be presented in poster 
sessions and student workshops.

APPLICATION DEADLINE:  MARCH 15, 1999.  A letter of acceptance will be sent to
 successful applicants.

Lecturers
Cheryl H. Arrowsmith (Ontario Cancer Institute, Toronto, Canada)
Ivano Bertini (Universita degli Studi di Firenze, Italy) 
Richard R. Ernst (ETH Zentrum, Zurich, Switzerland)
Hans Frauenfelder (Los Alamos National Laboratories, USA)
Cornelius W. Hilbers (University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands)
Oleg Jardetzky (Stanford University, USA)
Jean-Francois Lefevre (Universite Louis Pasteur, France) 
Michael Levitt (Stanford University, USA)
William N. Lipscomb (Harvard University, USA) 
Dino Moras (Universite Louis Pasteur, France) 
Joseph D. Puglisi (Stanford University, USA) 
Paul Rosch (Universitat Bayreuth, Germany) 
Brian D. Sykes (University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada) 
Wilfred van Gunsteren (ETH Zentrum, Zurich, Switzerland)

Course Topics

EXPERIMENTAL OBSERVATION OF MOLECULAR MOTIONS  
*Modern NMR techniques:  3D spectroscopy and molecular dynamics
*Protein crystallography
*Multisubunit allosteric proteins

OBSERVATION OF INTERNAL MOTIONS OF BIOLOGICAL MOLECULES
*Dynamics and conformational transitions in allosteric proteins
*Principles of NMR and dynamics
*Protein dynamics and reactions  
*The energy landscape of proteins

THEORETICAL ANALYSIS OF INTERNAL MOTIONS IN BIOLOGICAL MOLECULES
*Introduction to molecular dynamics  
*Simulations of protein folding
*Simulating protein and nucleic acid molecular dynamics
*New programs in MD simulations  
*Calculation of free energy and binding constants

MOTIONS IN NUCLEIC ACID
*Nucleic acids structure and dynamics
*RNA NMR spectroscopy

ANALYSIS OF SPECIFIC PROTEINS
*Interactions of antifreeze proteins with ice  
*Mechanism of action of calcium-signaling proteins
*tat-Protein structure, dynamics and function
*Protein-DNA complexes:  Heteronuclear strategies of the assignment of larger 
complexes

From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Fri Oct 23 23:00:00 1998
From: "Pieter van Santen" <santen.roemers@wxs.nl>
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Subject: Bioreactor Design Program
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Dear colleague,

I developed a program which can be used to design new bioreactors, or to
calculate parameters of already used bioreactors. If you are interested, you
can find more information at:
http://home.wxs.nl/~pvsanten/bioreactor/brd.htm


Pieter van Santen




From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Sat Oct 24 23:00:00 1998
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From: hiorue51@TWISTER.SCH.BME.HU (Innovative Lectro Designs)
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From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Mon Oct 26 22:00:00 1998
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This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail
queries sent to

		       biosci-help@net.bio.net

We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
mailing lists.  We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet
information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.


	Contents:
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!
------------------------------
BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now
operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our
Web site at http://www.bio.net/.  We need just a few minutes of your
time to help us serve you.

You can do two important things which will take very little time for
you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you.

First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
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contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for
supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if
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Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
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interested, they can then contact us for further information at our
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1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
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As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
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BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
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Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
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The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an
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This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
it on, say about 1 min. per message.

Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
your personal mail files.  For those of you with local USENET news
systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new
newsgroups and recent postings.


3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.
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PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on
subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the
newsgroups and mailing lists.  People who do this only bother everyone
on the lists to no avail.  Please be sure to follow the proper
procedures below.

Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at
http://www.bio.net.  Below we give an example utilizing the
METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites:

Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   for the group.  These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet.  For
   the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is
   methods@net.bio.net.  The listname is the portion of the address to
   the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods".  The listname is used with
   the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below.

B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to
   biosci-server@net.bio.net.  Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup
   posting addresses!  Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it
   will be ignored.

C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following
   commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g.,

   subscribe methods
   unsubscribe methods
   end

   Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines.  The
   server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address
   on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list.
   Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has
   changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells
   you that you are not a member.


Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at
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computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk):
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To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to
specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended.
The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet
on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list
the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
appropriate commands are

    sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

    unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts

These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk,
NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses.  As usual, include the text in
the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored.

To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use

    unsub bionet-news

Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one
in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by
this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk.


4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
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Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
http://www.bio.net/).  If you are not directly on the Internet but can
reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user
directory.  waismail use is described above.  You can also request a
user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net.

Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your
address information is still up-to-date.  Because of our limited
personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to
revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have
resources to edit old forms.


From owner-molec-model@net.bio.net Tue Oct 27 22:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.news.gtei.net!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.225!attworldnet!newsadm
From: Abhay Kini <kini-s@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.molec-model
Subject: Hardware question
Date: 28 Oct 1998 14:21:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
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Hi,

I am looking to purchase a computer which would allow me to run programs
such as macromodel and other modeling programs as well.  Could any one
suggest a site that would help me through this decision?

Thanx...

Abhay


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Path: biosci!AOL.COM!SName0
From: SName0@AOL.COM
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