From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: BIOSCI Administrator Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 2 May 1998 13:45:42 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 234 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199805020900.CAA06288@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. 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You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Minho Lee Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: [r] : mycotaxon ? Date: 2 May 1998 13:45:16 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3549B8BA.E338C72F@bric.postech.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) $)C Hello, I'm now finding some articles in Mycotaxon but there's not in my university and our country. Could anybody find and fax (or mail) for me the articles in Mycotaxon ? The articles are as follows; Mycotaxon 11 : pp. 269-!! ,1980 Mycotaxon 14 : pp. 393- , pp. 456- ,1981 My address : Minho Lee Bio. Res. Info. Center, POSTECH, Pohang, 790-784, Korea Fax : +82-562-279-5540 / Tel : +82-562-279-8198 Thanks in advance!! Your Sincerely, Minho Lee mhlee@bric.postech.ac.kr !! From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: dwheeler@teleport.com Newsgroups: bionet.agroforestry,bionet.mycology Subject: TIMBER IS REGULATED, BUT FORESTS YIELD MUCH MORE Date: 2 May 1998 13:45:11 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 121 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ibghc$psd$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri May 01 03:45:48 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: biosci bionet.agroforestry:10821 bionet.mycology:7110 The following article first appeared October 30, 1988 in The Sunday Oregonian. Please note the date it was published. TIMBER IS REGULATED, BUT FORESTS YIELD MUCH MORE By JIM KADERA - of The Oregonian Staff Summary: Few rules govern the harvest of mushrooms, greens, herbs and berries. Mushrooms, florist greens, medicinal herbs and an ingredient in cola soda all have something in common. They are among many non-timber items harvested from Northwest forests on a seasonal basis. But the land managers do not know who is taking how much of what from where. If that seems confusing, it's becuase there is a night-and-day difference between accountability for logging volumes and for the harvest of other products. Foresters have a sophisticated system for selling and tracking timber, the No. 1 commercial product. Accountability for secondary products harvested for sale is hit and miss. Ranger districts in some national forests ssell to the highest bidders the opportunity to prune Christmas boughs from firs. But the same districts may have people picking thousands of dollars worth of wild mushrooms free for lack of a program to sell permits or contracts. "We have been geared to sell the traditional products, and these other things are kind of ignored," said Robert Lease, head of timber sale preparation and evaluation in the U.S. Forest Service regional office. Might the Forest Service chief's office push for improved regulation over secondary products? "If we're going to do a good job, we'll have to do that," Lease said. In Washington, law requires payment for commodities taken from state-owned land for sale rather than personal use, but mushrooms and some other secondary products have been unregulated. "We've been giving it away and breaking the law for some time," said Kenelm Russell, a forest pathologist with the Washington Department of National Resources in Olympia. Leases are sold for taking salal, boughs and other greens that go into floral products, Russell noted. The state may begin to sell mushroom-picking permits, perhaps at $10 per 200 pounds, he said. The department knows that huckleberries picked from state lands sometimes end up in restaurant pies, but permits would not be sold "unless it became a multimillion dollar deal," Russell said. Lease of the Forest Service indicated he had talked with an Oregonian who said he could pick $300 worth of mushrooms from an acre of forest in a day during a peak growing period. "A lot of this is an underground economy. We should decide if we're going to elevate it to a level of public awareness," Lease said. One of the experts on what is known as wildcrafting - gathering for a living - is Anthony Walters of Sweet Home, an ethno-botanist and part-time instructor at Oregon State University. Walters said he was the first to pick and sell Oregon white truffles in 1980 for $160 a pound. "About two dozen resources are harvested from our forests on a regular basis," Walters said. Two of the least regulated are Douglas fir pitch, drained from living trees and sold for use as an adhesive or ingredient in certain hair shampoos, and prince's pine, a plant related to the rhododendron that is part of the flavoring in one brand of cola. Immigrants from Vietnam are collecting increasing amounts of bear grass used in making baskets. Walters has advised the Forest Service and others that more should be learned about the extent to which secondary products are being harvested and the degree to which they should be regulated. "If they manage the trees and give away everything else, overharvest is bound to happen," he said. Lease said the service did not know the value of secondary products. "It doesn't show up clearly in our reporting process," he said. "When I came here eight years ago, there was little interest. Now it's an emerging issue," said Charles Krebs, regional cooperative forestry director for the Forest Service. Krebs and others are planning a three-day symposium in Portland next autumn at which several hundred persons from Oregon and Washington would get the best available information on how to deal with the specialty products. Commercial picking is increasing as large numbers of mushrooms grow at sites of recent forest fires, Krebs noted. "It's clear there are some big dollars involved." Many of the mushrooms are exported to Europe, and some return to the United States processed in cans for retailing, Lease said. Oregon food- processing plants have seasonally idle capacity that could be used to pack the mushrooms, he said. Russell said conflicts between personal use and commercial mushroom pickers also are growing. "The conflict is when weekend pickers find the woods swept clean by the commercial people. We're talking about allocating areas," he observed. Jim Fisher, public affairs director for the Oregon Department of Forestry, said a state forester saw 15 groups of people picking mushrooms Friday in the Tillamook Forest west of Forest Grove. The department has no rules on mushroom picking, but staff members have begun to discuss concerns over loss of revenue and possible effects on forest productivity, Fisher said. One of the unanswered questions is whether excessive mushrooms gathering can impair the growth of nearby tres. Mushroom fungi are a link in tree roots obtaining nutrients and are critical to the health of a forest, Russell said. An experiment on mushroom picking in the Bull Run watershed by a volunteer forester may provide background information on the issue, he said. Yet another concern is whether mushrooms and other food or medicinal items collected from forests may be contaminated before or after harvest by chemicals or animal wastes, Walters said. State and federal agencies have authority over food and drugs involved in commerce, but there are wide gaps of enforcement in the wildcrafting industry, he pointed out. One of the best-regulated products is the harvest of boughs from fir and red cedar for Christmas wreaths and related items. The Estacada range district of the Mount Hood National Forest will spend only a few thousands dollars to administer four contracts totaling $104,000, according to Carson Hall, a silviculture technician. John McCain of Eugene was awarded one of those contracts for $32,530. McCain has a crew of eight workers cutting, bundling and loading a truck with branches from a 25-year-old noble fir plantation in the hills above the south fork of the Clackamas River. Workers earn $6 an hour or more, and most camp overnight at the site until the last boughs are cut just before Thanksgiving, if they are not driven out sooner by deep snow. "We have orders for 450,000 pounds of boughs. John has people working, too, on other land," said McCain's father, Jack. Most of the boughs are sold to wholesalers for wreath production, but Jack McCain said he looks forward to delivering 20,000 pounds in November directly to florists in Nevada and California. Secondary product sales in the Mount Hood forest totaled about $220,000 in 1987, ranging from $6,000 for 6,800 Christmas trees to $103,327 for 13,776 cords of firewood. The above was posted as a courtesy by Daniel B. Wheeler http://www.oregonwhitetruffles.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Minho Lee Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: [q] : Mycotaxon journal? Date: 2 May 1998 13:45:24 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 21 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <354A78BE.9C3FB8C0@bric.postech.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) $)C Hello, I'm searching now some articles in Mycotaxon, but they arn't in my university and my country. Could you send or fax me a copy of the articles ? Mycotaxon 11 : pp. 269-!! ,1980 Mycotaxon 14 : pp. 393- , pp. 456- ,1981 My address : Minho Lee Bio. Res. Info. Center, POSTECH Pohang, 790-784, Korea Fax : +82-562-279-5540 e-mail : mhlee@bric.postech.ac.kr Thanks in advance! !! From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 01 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Jeff Potter Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 2 May 1998 13:45:58 -0700 Organization: Out Your Backdoor--adventure & culture zine Lines: 40 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> Reply-To: jp@glpbooks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-AUTHid: potterm X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) [Last year I found several specific places to ask questions about mushrooms. Now I can't seem to find them. As elusive as morels! Pardon my crossposting. Please feel free to suggest better places.] I have a question about morel poisoning. Background: I have picked and eaten a variety of true morels for years with no ill effect. I live in Michigan and have eaten both northern and southern Mich. morels. I avoid beefsteaks (rocketfuel), but ate them once years ago with no ill effect. Basically, I've always loved morels, but also never overate them. (10max) Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, hungover for over a day. I thought perhaps picking them from a new location as I had done was part of the problem. Comments from the Net at the time suggested that mushrooms are effective at picking up local toxins sometimes. Some logging had been done nearby. This year I picked where I had several years previously (with no ill effect). I had a dinner with maybe 2 mushrooms and a glass of white wine. Again I was somewhat flattened, but only for an hour or so, kind of out of it. Laying down didn't feel great, walking kept me better oriented. Things were just a little vague. Conclusion: I hope that morels aren't somehow ruined for me. Has anyone heard of this effect? I will try again with one mushroom and no wine. I recall in a famous Michigan book on morels that alcohol reacts with some varieties. I'm hoping the trouble is in the wine. Maybe even WHITE wine. (I had a fine dinner several years ago with red wine.) It would be too bad if I can't eat this fine wild food anymore. Any help, advice appreciated. PLEASE COPY ANY REPLY TO EMAIL. THANKS! PS: Wife and friends eat these same meals with no ill effect. -- Jeff Potter jp@glpbooks.BADMAIL.com delete '.BADMAIL' to reply ***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb ... with new bookstore & bulletin board From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sat May 02 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: nobody@nowhere.com (john doe) Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 3 May 1998 10:35:51 -0700 Organization: dis- Lines: 15 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes >Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a >sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, >hungover for over a day. Although I have never heard of it occurring with morels, there is a mushroom that produces a chemical that in combination with alcohol, produces the effect you describe. Otherwise, consumption without alcohol produces no health affects. Once medical science learned of this chemical, and was able to synthesize it, it was marketed as an anti-alcoholic drug: given to alcoholics, it definitely encourages them to stop drinking (as long as they continue to take the drug). I'm sorry that I cannot be more specific at this time. If I can dig up the name of the mushroom and chemical, I will pass them on. From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sat May 02 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "Stephen Peek" Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 3 May 1998 10:35:48 -0700 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 55 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ig264$l7l$1@supernews.com> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Trace: 894143492 VRL06/YYI80DBD083C usenet51.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I have heard of people who are sensitive to a combination of alcohol & morchella augusticeps (black morels). Try the whites or yellows or maybe without the wine. Jeff Potter wrote in message <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>... >[Last year I found several specific places to ask questions about mushrooms. >Now I can't seem to find them. As elusive as morels! Pardon my crossposting. >Please feel free to suggest better places.] > >I have a question about morel poisoning. > >Background: I have picked and eaten a variety of true morels for years with >no ill effect. I live in Michigan and have eaten both northern and southern >Mich. morels. I avoid beefsteaks (rocketfuel), but ate them once years ago with >no ill effect. Basically, I've always loved morels, but also never overate them. >(10max) > >Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a >sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, >hungover for over a day. I thought perhaps picking them from a new location >as I had done was part of the problem. Comments from the Net at the time >suggested that mushrooms are effective at picking up local toxins sometimes. >Some logging had been done nearby. This year I picked where I had several >years previously (with no ill effect). I had a dinner with maybe 2 mushrooms >and a glass of white wine. Again I was somewhat flattened, but only for an hour >or so, kind of out of it. Laying down didn't feel great, walking kept me >better oriented. Things were just a little vague. > >Conclusion: I hope that morels aren't somehow ruined for me. Has anyone >heard of this effect? I will try again with one mushroom and no wine. >I recall in a famous Michigan book on morels that alcohol reacts with some >varieties. I'm hoping the trouble is in the wine. Maybe even WHITE wine. >(I had a fine dinner several years ago with red wine.) It would be too bad >if I can't eat this fine wild food anymore. > >Any help, advice appreciated. PLEASE COPY ANY REPLY TO EMAIL. THANKS! > >PS: Wife and friends eat these same meals with no ill effect. > >-- > >Jeff Potter jp@glpbooks.BADMAIL.com delete '.BADMAIL' to reply >***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture > http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb ... with new bookstore & bulletin board > From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: dwheeler@teleport.com Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 4 May 1998 09:15:02 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 68 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ijbpo$eke$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 04 03:14:00 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) In article <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1, jp@glpbooks.com wrote: > > [Last year I found several specific places to ask questions about mushrooms. > Now I can't seem to find them. As elusive as morels! Pardon my crossposting. > Please feel free to suggest better places.] > > I have a question about morel poisoning. > > Background: I have picked and eaten a variety of true morels for years with > no ill effect. I live in Michigan and have eaten both northern and southern > Mich. morels. I avoid beefsteaks (rocketfuel), but ate them once years ago with > no ill effect. Basically, I've always loved morels, but also never overate them. > (10max) > > Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a > sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, > hungover for over a day. I thought perhaps picking them from a new location > as I had done was part of the problem. Comments from the Net at the time > suggested that mushrooms are effective at picking up local toxins sometimes. > Some logging had been done nearby. This year I picked where I had several > years previously (with no ill effect). I had a dinner with maybe 2 mushrooms > and a glass of white wine. Again I was somewhat flattened, but only for an hour > or so, kind of out of it. Laying down didn't feel great, walking kept me > better oriented. Things were just a little vague. > > Conclusion: I hope that morels aren't somehow ruined for me. Has anyone > heard of this effect? I will try again with one mushroom and no wine. > I recall in a famous Michigan book on morels that alcohol reacts with some > varieties. I'm hoping the trouble is in the wine. Maybe even WHITE wine. > (I had a fine dinner several years ago with red wine.) It would be too bad > if I can't eat this fine wild food anymore. > The problem is simple. You have fallen under the dreaded umbrella of Sudden Morel Toxicity Effect (SMoTe). Fortunately, there is a cure! Now, for only $10,000 in small, unmarked American bills... Actually, your problem is related to co-consumption of alcohol with morels. You are not the only one. Your choices include not consuming alcohol with morels. Not eating morels (send any dried to me instead, purely for scientific exploration of their toxicity, mind you). Giving fresh morels only to your worst enemies who (you hope) will react in a similar fashion as you have. With the last option, you must always be prepared to shoulder the burden of having an obnoxious bore accompany you on your next morel hunt. Try skipping the wine with your next meal of morels. If you have no toxic reactions...well, dried morels still make wonderful Christmas gifts. ;) Daniel B. Wheeler http://www.oregonwhitetruffles.com > Any help, advice appreciated. PLEASE COPY ANY REPLY TO EMAIL. THANKS! > > PS: Wife and friends eat these same meals with no ill effect. > > -- > > Jeff Potter jp@glpbooks.BADMAIL.com delete '.BADMAIL' to reply > ***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture > http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb ... with new bookstore & bulletin board > > -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "Tony Vetrano" Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Searching for Filter Bags Date: 4 May 1998 09:14:58 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 11 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ij7qm$7ak$1@camel29.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Server-Date: 4 May 1998 02:06:14 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I am interested in learning what has become of of Unicorn Inc. They once provided me with samples of polypropylene etc filter bags for mushroom culturing. Would anyone be so kind as to give me some information about this? Also has anyone out there dealt with them. I am a little gun shy doing business over the internet. I used to correspond with a gentleman named Lou Hsu. The outfit was addressed to a post office box in Water Valley Mississippi. Thanks From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: John Chalmers Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 4 May 1998 09:14:52 -0700 Organization: Delta Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 9 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net I believe the mushroom causing illness with alcohol is Coprinus atramentatrius. The synthetic agent is called Antabuse and is a thiuram disulfide. It causes acetaldehyde to accumulate rather than be completed oxidized to CO2 and H2O via acetylCoA. --John From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: devnull@clubvb.com (Ron Schwarz -- see sig to reply) Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 4 May 1998 09:14:46 -0700 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 23 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3555b1dc.52184877@n2.supernews.com> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Trace: 894218510 X.YMZ3LPSE42ED012C usenet85.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 On 3 May 1998 10:35:51 -0700, nobody@nowhere.com (john doe) wrote: >>Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a >>sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, >>hungover for over a day. > >Although I have never heard of it occurring with morels, there is a >mushroom that produces a chemical that in combination with alcohol, >produces the effect you describe. Otherwise, consumption without >alcohol produces no health affects. Once medical science learned of >this chemical, and was able to synthesize it, it was marketed as an >anti-alcoholic drug: given to alcoholics, it definitely encourages >them to stop drinking (as long as they continue to take the drug). > >I'm sorry that I cannot be more specific at this time. If I can dig up >the name of the mushroom and chemical, I will pass them on. Coprinus atrementaris, the Inky Cap. Fairly common in the fall. -- (reply to usenet at clubvb.com) From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Minho Lee Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: [q] : aphids-pathogenic fungi references Date: 4 May 1998 09:15:13 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 44 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <354D5053.624EA2F8@bric.postech.ac.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) $)C Hello, I'm now looking for some references as follows (not in our country); Could you send or fax me the copies of these articles or tell me the e-mail address/snail-mail address of the authors? Please, help me! Thanks in advance. 1) Glare, T.R., Milner, R.J., Chilvers, G. A., Mahon,R.J., and Brown, W. V. 1987. Taxonomic implications of interspecific variation amongst isolates of the aphids-pathogenic fungi Zoophthora radicans Brefeld and Z. phalloides Batko (Zygomycetes: Entomophthoraceae). Austral. J. Bot., 35, 49-67.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bot. meas Botany. 2) Remaudiere, G. and Hennebert, G.L., Revision systematique de Enthomophthora aphidis Hoffm. in Fres. Description de deux nouveaux pathogenes d'aphides, Mycotaxon, 11, 269, 1980. 3) Humber, R.A., Erynia(Zygomycetes: Entomophthorales): validations and new species, Mycotaxon, 13, 471, 1981. 4) Ben Ze'ev, I. and Kenneth, R. G. Features criteria of taxonomic value in the Entomophthorales. I. A revision of the Batkoan classification, Mycotaxon, 14, 393, 1982. 5) Ben Ze'ev, I. and Kenneth, R. G. Features criteria of taxonomic value in the Entomophthorales. II. A revision of the genus Erynia Nowakowski 1881 (= Zoophthora Batko 1964), Mycotaxon, 14, 456, 1982. Minho Lee, mhlee@bric.postech.ac.kr Bio. Res. Info. Center, POSTECH Pohang, 790-784, Korea Fax : +82-562-279-5540 / Tel : +82-562-279-8198 !! !! From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 03 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: frenesi Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 4 May 1998 09:15:08 -0700 Organization: graphica ambigua Lines: 25 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <354D884B.8B6@ix.netcom.com> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> Reply-To: frenesi@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-NETCOM-Date: Sun May 03 10:09:38 PM PDT 1998 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) john doe wrote: > > >Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a > >sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, > >hungover for over a day. > > Although I have never heard of it occurring with morels, there is a > mushroom that produces a chemical that in combination with alcohol, > produces the effect you describe. Otherwise, consumption without > alcohol produces no health affects. Once medical science learned of > this chemical, and was able to synthesize it, it was marketed as an > anti-alcoholic drug: given to alcoholics, it definitely encourages > them to stop drinking (as long as they continue to take the drug). > > I'm sorry that I cannot be more specific at this time. If I can dig up > the name of the mushroom and chemical, I will pass them on. the shroom is "coprinus atramentarius" commonly known as "inky cap" or "tippler's bane". it's probably a good idea never to eat any coprinus with alcohol. the toxin in coprinus is coprine. alcohol neednt even be consumed with the shroom...if you regularly use alcohol you might develop symptoms...these being reddening of the ears and nose, a metallic taste in the mouth,lightheadedness, rapid heatbeat, nausea, vomiting.... From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Tue May 05 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "cominetti" Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 5 May 1998 22:03:56 -0700 Organization: Politecnico di Torino - Italia Lines: 13 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bd7787$a5c0acc0$d11a74c2@cominetti.alpcom.it> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 The mushroom is Coprinus atramentarius and the effect is known as Anthabuse effect. Fulvio Cominetti john doe scritto nell'articolo <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu>... > > I'm sorry that I cannot be more specific at this time. If I can dig up > the name of the mushroom and chemical, I will pass them on. > > From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Tue May 05 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "Paul Church" Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 5 May 1998 22:04:08 -0700 Organization: BT Internet Lines: 6 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bd781e$21f37fc0$9b2d63c3@default> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 The name of the fungi that the treatment for alcoholics is based on is the common ink cap, or Coprinus atramentarius. The drug obtained from it is marketed under the name "antabuse". From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Tue May 05 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: yty@cantuc.csc.canterbury.ac.nz Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 5 May 1998 22:04:05 -0700 Organization: University of Canterbury Lines: 14 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6im1pr$32q$1@cantuc.canterbury.ac.nz> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com> <354c8a7e.5346399@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 The mushroom concerned is Coprinus atramentarius, more commonly known as the Common Ink cap. The compound responsible for the reaction is a unique amino acid called Coprine, which blocks the metabolism of ethyl alcohol at the acetaldehyde stage. In reality, Coprine poisoning is really acetaldehyde poisoning. This kind of poisoning can occur anywhere up to 5 days after consumption of the mushrooms. Symptoms occur 30-60 minutes after consumption of any drink containing alcohol: they include hot flushes to the face and neck, a metallic taste in the mouth, tingling in the limbs, numbness in the hands, palpatations, a throbbing headache, nausea and vomitting. Although unpleasent, it isn't fatal. Alcoholics are more commonly prescribed Antabuse (disulfiram), which has an action almost identical to Coprine. From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 06 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: andre.caron@videotron.ca Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 7 May 1998 11:55:38 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 74 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ish28$pt9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Authentication-Warning: philabs-gw.philabs.research.philips.com: smap set sender to using -f X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu May 07 14:39:04 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01 [fr] (Macintosh; I; 68K) In article <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1, jp@glpbooks.com wrote: > > [Last year I found several specific places to ask questions about mushrooms. > Now I can't seem to find them. As elusive as morels! Pardon my crossposting. > Please feel free to suggest better places.] > > I have a question about morel poisoning. > > Background: I have picked and eaten a variety of true morels for years with > no ill effect. I live in Michigan and have eaten both northern and southern > Mich. morels. I avoid beefsteaks (rocketfuel), but ate them once years ago with > no ill effect. Basically, I've always loved morels, but also never overate them. > (10max) > > Last year I had a morel dinner with maybe 6 mushrooms sauteed in a > sauce along with drinking a glass of wine. I was knocked out kind of stoned, sick, > hungover for over a day. I thought perhaps picking them from a new location > as I had done was part of the problem. Comments from the Net at the time > suggested that mushrooms are effective at picking up local toxins sometimes. > Some logging had been done nearby. This year I picked where I had several > years previously (with no ill effect). I had a dinner with maybe 2 mushrooms > and a glass of white wine. Again I was somewhat flattened, but only for an hour > or so, kind of out of it. Laying down didn't feel great, walking kept me > better oriented. Things were just a little vague. > > Conclusion: I hope that morels aren't somehow ruined for me. Has anyone > heard of this effect? I will try again with one mushroom and no wine. > I recall in a famous Michigan book on morels that alcohol reacts with some > varieties. I'm hoping the trouble is in the wine. Maybe even WHITE wine. > (I had a fine dinner several years ago with red wine.) It would be too bad > if I can't eat this fine wild food anymore. > > Any help, advice appreciated. PLEASE COPY ANY REPLY TO EMAIL. THANKS! > > PS: Wife and friends eat these same meals with no ill effect. > > -- > > Jeff Potter jp@glpbooks.BADMAIL.com delete '.BADMAIL' to reply > ***"Out Your Backdoor": Friendly Magazine of DIY Adventure and Culture > http://www.glpbooks.com/oyb ... with new bookstore & bulletin board > > Did you not ate the "false" true morel instead of one of the "true" true morels? Verpa bohemica can give more intensely disturbing symptoms than coprinus & wine and is related to "true" false morels i.e. Gyromitra & Helvella spp., some of which may be quite toxic if eaten not well cooked and/ or too often in a short time, due to toxin accumulation in the liver. Verpa bohemica have a look very similar to some of the true morels and grows at the same time of the year. Another point: there are reports about "true" true morels of the "black" group, in western North America and specifically northern Michigan, having caused such intoxications. "True" true morels too are related to "true" false morels, which may explain the fact that some people have problems with these delicious mushrooms... About white vs red wine, the former contains a lot of toxic and highly allergen SO2 used as a preservative while the latter is sometimes hard on the stomach due to the tannins it contains. So what all this does in our bodies when mixed as in a true gastronomic meal? All this to say that life is complex, fascinating and somewat surprising... and morels, well... delicious! I hope this will help you. Information on morels taken from the french edition of the book "Poisonous Mushrooms of Canada" by Ammirati, Traquair & Horgen. Sorry, I don't have the complete bibliographic reference. André Caron -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Thu May 07 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Bea Mertens Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Kenya Date: 8 May 1998 09:18:00 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 9 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6iupn2$nbb@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hello, Could anyone give me some names (or refences of books or papers) of edible species of fungi/mushrooms in Kenya? Thanks, Bea Nairobi, Kenya b.mertens@cgnet.com From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Fri May 08 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "Kenobi" Newsgroups: alt.drugs.mushrooms,alt.nature.mushrooms,bionet.mycology Subject: ancient mushroom Date: 9 May 1998 08:48:04 -0700 Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 10 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I am trying to identify amushroom from an ancient text. It is writen as Aghrikon and also Agrikon and Agarikon . in the index of the book it is writen as agaricum, boletus igniarius. I can't seem to find it in my mushroom books. This boletus identification is writen by the translator (sir a walace budge) 1920's i think. And classifications may have changed. Another author claims it is fly agaric. Any insite would be greatly appreciated. khodson@direct.ca From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 10 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: SUBCIDE ZINE/PRODUCTIONS Newsgroups: alt.drugs.mushrooms,alt.nature.mushrooms,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: ancient mushroom Date: 10 May 1998 21:54:44 -0700 Organization: Subcide Productions Lines: 6 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <35558AD7.77F09D47@clear.net.nz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.2.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) > Another author claims it is fly agaric. > Yes it is From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 10 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: mschaech@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Moselio Schaechter) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Re: ancient mushroom Date: 10 May 1998 21:54:41 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 44 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Sender: mschaechter@sunstroke.sdsu.edu At 3:48 PM 5/9/98, Kenobi wrote: >I am trying to identify amushroom from an ancient text. It is writen >as Aghrikon and also Agrikon and Agarikon . in the index >of the book it is writen as agaricum, boletus igniarius. I can't seem to >find it in my mushroom books. This boletus identification is writen by the >translator (sir a walace budge) 1920's i think. And classifications may have >changed. Another author claims it is fly agaric. >Any insite would be greatly appreciated. khodson@direct.ca _____________ Agaricum (or Agarikon, Agarick) plays a central role in the history of the medicinal use of fungi. It is the fruiting bodies of the polypore Fomitopsis officinalis, previously known as Fomes, Boletus, Polyporus. This fungus has been used since Greek and Roman antiquity as a remedy for an astounding number of illnesses. Indeed, it has been called a fungal panacea. According to Dioscorides, the first century Greek physician and pharmacologist (and whose works were much studied by Renaissance herbalists), agaricum was useful to staunch blood, against colic, sores, broken limbs and bruises, fever, liver complaints, asthma, jaundice, dysentery, kidney diseases, hysteria, sallow complexion, epilepsy, etc, etc. It was supposed to assist in menstruation, relieve flatulence and relieve snake bites. "On the whole it is serviceable in all internal complaints when taken according to the age and strength of the patient." The use of agaricum has persisted until recent times. What we know of it now is that, in large doses, it is a powerful purgative and that it contains a pharmacologically active compound, agaricin, that has been used in the treatment of tuberculosis. Dioscorides had another curious view of agaricum, namely that it exists in two sexes, male and female. The female form may correspond to F. officinalis, but the male one does not and may not even be a fungus. For more details, consult Mushrooms. Poisons and Panaceas by D. Benjamin, and Medicinal Mushrooms by C. Hobbs. Elio Schaechter Author, "In the Company of Mushrooms" Harvard University Press ISBN 0-674-44554-6 From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 10 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Huronia Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: bread molds - ? Date: 10 May 1998 21:54:47 -0700 Organization: Huronia Lines: 10 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <35563397.CFEBAAC7@csolve.net> Reply-To: dewart@csolve.net NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) My research hasn't lead me very far. I'm in search of information about the molding process on bread (different stages, etc). I would greatly appreciate any help. Huronia ** Could you please reply to: dewart@csolve.net From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 10 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: biologist@metro.net Newsgroups: alt.drugs.mushrooms,alt.nature.mushrooms,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: ancient mushroom Date: 10 May 1998 21:54:45 -0700 Organization: Cedar Flats Mushroom Farm Lines: 19 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.217.52.214 X-Trace: 10 May 1998 09:59:05 -0800, 205.217.52.214 In article , "Kenobi" wrote: > I am trying to identify amushroom from an ancient text. It is writen > as Aghrikon and also Agrikon and Agarikon . in the index > of the book it is writen as agaricum, boletus igniarius. I can't seem to > find it in my mushroom books. This boletus identification is writen by the > translator (sir a walace budge) 1920's i think. And classifications may have > changed. Another author claims it is fly agaric. > Any insite would be greatly appreciated. khodson@direct.ca Boletus ignoratus is a lemon yellow bolete in Eastern North America. Neither Moser nor Singer lists any mushroom with specific epithet of "igniarius". Darvin From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Andreas Gminder Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Re: ancient mushrooms Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:11 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 33 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3556E511.159C@stuttgart.netsurf.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) Dear collegue, I am trying to identify amushroom from an ancient text. It is writen as Aghrikon and also Agrikon and Agarikon . in the index of the book it is writen as agaricum, boletus igniarius. The fungus you're looking for should be Laricifomes officinalis, also classified in Fomitopsis and Fomes. Nowadays I also have seen that the old name Agaricum has been reinstalled for this fungus. It is a polyporous fungus which is known in medicine since old times (greeks, romans). The boletus igniarius is somewhat similar, but classified in Phellinus today. I can't seem to find it in my mushroom books. That is not really astonishing, as it is said to be a very rare fungus in all european countries where it has been found yet. It is confined to old and still standing Larix trees where it grows on the stem, sometimes in several meters hight. In europe it has a strictly (sub)alpin distribution and is certainly endangered to (almost?) extinct in some areas. This boletus identification is writen by the translator (sir a walace budge) 1920's i think. And classifications may have changed. Another author claims it is fly agaric. This is Amanita muscaria and has nothing to do with Agaricum officinale. best regards Andreas Gminder - Stuttgart - Germany From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: dwheeler@teleport.com Newsgroups: bionet.agroforestry,bionet.mycology Subject: Camping fee upsets mushroom pickers Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:17 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 100 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6j8ner$ud0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 12 05:41:42 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: biosci bionet.agroforestry:10918 bionet.mycology:7135 The following article is posted as a courtesy. It originally ran in the Sunday Oregonian, May 10, 1998 on page C4. Camping fee upsets mushroom pickers Umatilla Forest plans for eight camps have Blue Mountains merchants angry, too, over potential losses By RICHARD COCKLE Correspondent, The Oregonian UKIAH - A fat raindrop plops onto Sandy Thompson's extended hand as she stands outside her little Dale Store in the Blue Mountains of Northeastern Oregon. "It's raining and it's warm, which really helps the mushrooms," said Thompson, 50, who depends on mushroom pickers for much of her spring and summer income. Conditions may be fine for growing wild mushrooms, but all is not well as the picking season gears up. A new policy by the U.S. Forest Service has angered incoming pickers, buyers and merchants in the isolated settlements of Dale and nearby Ukiah. The North Fork John Day and Heppner ranger districts of the Umatilla National Forest are making plans to establish eight Forest Service camps where commercial pickers will be required to live this season. The cost will be $3 a day, per person. Policy upsets pickers The policy isn't setting well with pickers who come here to harvest the fat morels from roughly 100,000 acres of forest left blackened by the Tower, Summit and Bull wildfires of 1996. For the first time, the pickers will be prohibited from camping where they choose. Some pickers and buyers call the sites "concentration camps," and Thompson and other business people fear the pickers will leave for ranger districts without camps. That could mean economic calamity for Dale and Ukiah, they say. Between May and August last year, 3,000 to 4,000 pickers came through these mountains. At night they came to the two settlements to sell their morels and buy food, gasoline, beer and cigarettes. Mushroom hunters were the source of 50 percent to 70 percent of the local business. Now, some pickers are turning around as soon as they hear of the camping requirement. Lot of pickers leave "They're leaving," said picker Terry leavitt, 61, of Forks, Wash. "I passed a lot of the pickers leaving.| Ukiah restaurant owner Doug Vincent, 63, predicted the policy will mean "the financial strangulation of this little town. These people are coming in and leaving. Usually we have people coming in and building their camps and playing and waiting for the mushrooms to come in," he said. Earle Rother, a Forest service spokesman for the Umatilla National Forest in Pendleton, said the policy was implemented because pickers last year left behind mounds of trash in scattered campsites across the forest. "They were pretty bad conditions - litter, and of course, sanitary facilities were not very good at all," said Rother, adding that for the $3 a day fee, the Forest Service will provide Dumpsters for trash, potable water and portable toilets. "It should make life a lot easier in those camps," Rother said. Merchants and pickers argue that the cost -- $75 per month per person, or $150 per month for a couple -- is too high. Many pickers arrive with no money and could leave with flat wallets after paying for gasoline, food and camping fees, said Jeanne Leavitt, 57, wife of Terry Leavitt. "A lot of times you don't make that much picking," she said. "They ain't going to pay it." Aggravating the problems, this will be the second wild mushroom harvest after the Tower, Summit and Bull fires, said Clint Barber, 44, mayor or Ukiah and owner of the Rhodes Supply grocery store. He said second-year harvests are traditionally poor compared with the first year, and he expects the area to sustain only about half the pickers that were here last summer. If the Forest Service camping policy drives away pickers, as he expects, he business will suffer, he said. "What I don't like about it is the increased regulation of our forest," Barber said. "To me, it's offensive because it is more government." The other big concerns are cultural and language barriers -- the season draws a lot of Asian and Latino pickers -- among the groups. In 1996, there were five reported shootings, and one homicide at a large commercial mushroom camp set up by the Deschutes National Forest. Many problems reported Ther Forest Service also reported problems with prostitution, gambling, gangs, extortion and heavy drinking, and four other persons beside the murder victim died, one from natural causes and three from carbon monoxide poisoning. The Leavitts stayed at a similar camp near Stanley, idaho, about seven years ago and found the experience unsettling. "All night long there was gunshots," Kerry Leavitt said. "I don't think it's fair. ... Too many cultures, too many different styles. Something is going to bust loose." Rother siad the Forest Service and law enforcement officials plan to "help the pickers understand the cultural differences between the cultures out there." Posted as a courtesy by: Daniel B. Wheeler http://www.oregonwhitetruffles.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Gary Soucie Newsgroups: alt.nature.mushrooms,sci.bio.misc,sci.bio.botany,bionet.mycology Subject: Re: Morel mushroom poisoning? Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:14 -0700 Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Lines: 18 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <3556E86D.2D21459D@sover.net> References: <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1 <6ish28$pt9$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Reply-To: wf5f@usa.net NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; U) > In article <354B09B2.781@glpbooks.com>#1/1, > jp@glpbooks.com wrote: > > > Comments from the Net at the time suggested that mushrooms are effective at picking up > local toxins sometimes. IF you were made sick by eating a true true morel, and not by a misidentified mushroom or by something else you ingested or otherwise acquired, it's more likely the morel had been parasitized or colonized by a much smaller fungus. My ex-wife and I both got a mild case of LSD-like symptoms after eating a casserole made from hen of the woods. This was a fruiting body I picked each year at the same general time from the base of an elm. This particular year, the mushroom had a slightly different look, so I went through all the trouble of spore printing, etc. Everything keyed out correctly. Apparently the cosmetics and the psilocybin (or whatever) were contributed by a passenger fungus. --Gary Soucie From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr (environnement.ensaia.u-nancy.fr) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Tween effects Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:25 -0700 Organization: environnement.ensaia.u-nancy.fr Lines: 26 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear members, Many researchers use Tween 80 in the preparation of the fungi inocula prior to introduce it in the soil. But i didn't find a work or repport about the effect of tween on spores germination, indigenous microflora, and its fate or its biodegradability in the soil . Please send me if you have any idea, information or work references about this subject . Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please to mail directly to : hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr Thank you in advance -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Salem HAYAR Ecole Nationale Superieure d'Agronomie et des Industries Alimentaires 2, avenue de la Foret de Haye Laboratoire Sols et Environnement associe INRA, B.P. 172 54505 Vandoeuvre-Les-Nancy Cedex, FRANCE Tel.: (+33) 03.83.59.59.59 poste 5107 Telecopie : (+33) 03.83.59.59.16 Mailto:hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr ______________________________________________ From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: ajarrett@accsoft.com.au (Muffin-man) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Scedosporium in patients with haematological malignancies. Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:19 -0700 Organization: Your Organization Lines: 9 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6j918d$o25$1@news.mel.aone.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Dear newsgroup, I am researching the previlence of Scedosporium spp. in patients with a haematological malignancy. We have encountered 4 cases over the last 12months in our institution and I am preparing a poster for our ASM conference in Sept. I have come across some interesting articles in my literature search, but my Internet searches are disappointing. Has any body out there have some good references or had some on hand experience with Scedosporium. From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 11 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: J.Kaemper@lrz.uni-muenchen.de (Joerg Kaemper) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: hygromycin Date: 12 May 1998 10:13:27 -0700 Organization: Institute of Genetics, Munich Lines: 4 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 Does anybody know a cheap source for hygromycin B ? Thanks for answering, Joerg Kaemper From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 13 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: "David Pontius" Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: lichens Date: 13 May 1998 21:45:31 -0700 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 8 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6jasme$m4k$1@winter.news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 895022606 22676 207.172.36.245 (13 May 1998 01:23:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I am looking for data about edible lichens. parmelia cirrhata was fried and eaten in India(J EthnoPharmocology) and lecanora esculaenta of the Negev. I wonder how they taste and if there are other available sources of food amongst lichens. DH From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 13 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Antonio Castillo Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Phleomycin Date: 13 May 1998 21:45:44 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 7 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Does anybody know a cheap source for Phleomycin? Thanks for answering Antonio Castillo acastill@lauca.usach.cl From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 13 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: in5421@wlv.ac.uk (Neelam Grewal) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Novozym 234 Date: 14 May 1998 11:23:13 -0700 Organization: University of Wolverhampton, U.K. Lines: 3 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6jejam$dbk@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) Does anyone know where I can get some Novozym 234 from???? From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Thu May 14 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: unb115@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: congress information Date: 15 May 1998 09:19:25 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 191 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980515045952.0069c878@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Sender: unb115@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Dear ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Olga Labudov=E1 is organizing the Traditional Meeting on Amino Acids,= the 6th International Congress on Amino Acids, at our department of Experimentelle Radiologie und Strahlenbiologie at the Medical Institutions of the University of Bonn. With this e-mail I enclose the first congress announcement. We would be very obliged if you could distribute these informations to your members. If there are any questions, please do not hesitate to contact Dr. Labudov=E1. For your help we thank you very much in advance. Yours Dr. Olga Labudiv=E1= and Prof. Dr. Rink.=20 6th International Congress on Amino Acids Bonn, Germany, August 3-7th 1999 1st Announcement and call for presentations TOPICS Molecular Medicine, Biochemistry, Nutrition, Pharmaceutics Arginine - Carnitine - Glutamine - Homocysteine - Taurine - Natural Products - Peptides- Modification of Amino Acids - Neurobiology - Neurochemistry - Neurotoxicity - Psychiatry - Physiology - Pharmacology - Toxicology - Microbiology - Cardiology - Nephrology - Pathology - Genetics - Inborn Errors - Molecular Biology - Food Chemistry - Plant Chemistry - Pharmaceutical Chemistry - Radiation and Radical Chemistry Metabolism - Biosynthesis - Analysis - Racemization - Exercise - Memory - Learning. It is our pleasure to invite you to participate in the Traditional Meeting on Amino Acids..The multidisciplinary character of the meeting provides you with an exellent overview of up-to-date knowledge on the role of amino acids in different fields. We will be happy to receive your contribution. Please submit the title of your contribution at your earliest convenience. As the programme shall contain most recent research data, we do not expect an abstract yet. It has to be submitted, however, not later than March 31st, 1999 in order to allow publication prior to the Meeting. The abstracts will be published in the journal AMINO ACIDS, Springer publishers, listed in Current Contents Life Sciences. Please prepare an abstract on a sheet of paper of the size of this letter using 250 words approximately, giving title, authors and adress of corresponding author only. Colleagues who want to submit a full manuscript should ask for the instructions to authors. These are the deadlines: The deadline for the submission of the titles is January 31st, 1999.=20 The deadline for submission of abstracts with or without full manuscripts, for registration and for payment of the congress fee is March 31st, 1999. Early registration is recommended due to a limitation to 600 participants. The registration fee is due latest by March 31st , 1999 preferrably as money order or traveller cheques (cheapest possibilities). The registration form should be completed and submitted to Dr. O. Labudova (address see below). With pleasure we shall satisfy your inquiry on the scientific program and shall send you information on cultural and social events, travelling, housing, and accommodation along with the 2nd announcement, which will be sent to everybody who will return the added registration form. We are looking forward to welcome you and to enjoy your participation as well as your presentation =20 Dr. O. Labudova Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universit=E4t Experimentelle Radiologie und Strahlenbiologie, Sigmund-Freud-Strasse 25 D-53105 Bonn, Germany=09 Fax:+49-228-287-4457 e-mail: hrink@mailer.meb.uni-bonn.de Bonn: The Charming Federal City on the Rhine=20 Each year, Bonn welcomes more than two million visitors. There are many ways of reaching this city. One of those is along the Rhine which is the most =84European=93 of all rivers. On its way from the Alps to the North Sea, it flows for 18 kilometers within the boundaries of Bonn accompanied by a wealth of famous sights: castles and ruined fortresses, the romantic Rolandsbogen - the last remaining window arch of a former castle, the Siebengebirge hills, the Federal Government building, the Bonn Opera House and the Beethoven Hall. Even as the German capital, Bonn retained the characteristics that make it what it is today: a medium-sized Rhineland city offering maximum quality of life to those living there and located in one of the loveliest, most romantic regions in Germany. A lot of famous composers found their inspiration in this lovely city, where Ludwig van Beethoven was born and has left his mark. Cologne could be on your list of visits: nowadays, it is the biggest city of the state North-Rhine-Westfalia but already of great importance since the ancient time of the Roman Empire. Cologne is famous for its well-known romanic churches (12) and the gothic cathedral (UNESCO cultural heritage), the Wallraf-Richartz-Museum, the Romano-Germanic archeological museum and many more galleries. D=FCsseldorf one of Germanies fashion cities, often called =84little= Paris=93, is about 1 hour away from Bonn. It is the state capital of North-Rhine Westphalia and administrative headquaters for most of Germanies heavy industry companies. D=FCsseldorf=92s down-town area =84Altstadt=93 and the= shopping district =84K=F6nigsallee=93 are world famous. In addition, D=FCsseldorf=92s= second nickname =84little Tokyo=93, points to the fact that the city houses= Europe=92s largest Japanese colony in Germany. Amsterdam is not far away: it is the famous European North Venice, whose canals in the old city center, the Rijksmuseum and the van Gogh Museum challenge to make an exciting round trip. =20 Brussels the Belgian capital and administrative headquarters of the European Union is about 2,5 hours away from Bonn. Famous for its collection of unique houses from the decorated style and renaissance periods. Brussels today is also famous for its restaurants in all styles found adjacent to =84la= Grande Place=93 - =84Bonne app=E9tit=93.=20 Paris about 4 hours away by train - is always worth a trip. Needless to mention its classical attractions like the Eiffel tower, Notre Dame and the Champs-Elyse=E9s. Le Louvre and the Mus=E9e d=92Orsay are the most famous= examples out of dozens of exceptional museums. Above all, Paris is a unique expression of =84 joie de vivre=93.=20 The 6th International Congress on Amino Acids will be sponsored by: =84Red Bull Company=93=20 Salzburg , Austria. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------ 6th International Congress on Amino Acids Bonn, Germany, August 3-7th 1999 REGISTRATION FORM I will participate in the congress cited above. 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PAYMENT OPTIONS =7F moneyorder available in each office of American Express (charge 12 US= $). =7F enclosed are US $ Traveller cheques or Euro cheques =20 =7F cheque (US $) drawn on a German Bank (add 30 US $ handling charges)=09 Please charge my credit card =7F American Express, =7F Eurocard/Mastercard, =7F Visa Credit card No.: _________________________ Exp. date (valid through) _______________ Name of card holder:= __________________________________________________________ Date and signature := _________________________________________________________ Congress activities will be handled and supported by : American Express Intl., Inc Corporate Services - Business Travel Center Phone: +49-228-7661120 - Fax: +49-228-7661133 From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sat May 16 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: dwheeler@teleport.com Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Truffles fd. today 5/16/98 Date: 16 May 1998 23:17:09 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 52 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6jl5vf$r50$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat May 16 23:03:11 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) Went out today to find truffles for Darvin DeShaver, so he will have something to show at his mycological meeting on next Wednesday. He also asked me to send some information about each, so thought I'd post it to the group and see what other say about them. Found Tuber giganteum Gilkey at two locations near Beavercreek, Clackamas Co., OR; Barssia oregonensis; Hymenogaster parksii; a possible Martellia brunnescens; and some Tuber gibbosum. Tuber giganteum is probably the best eating of the bunch, in my opinion. It is associated with Douglas fir in this area from January through July. While it can reach 2-4 inches in diameter, it is more often found about quarter-size diameter. Collections from a site new to me are very hard, and may be quite immature: nothing over 1.5 inch diameter. Most Tubers lend themselves to cooking, and are avidly sought the world over. They are generally sliced over warm pasta dressed simply with either butter or olive oil and salt. Tuber giganteum is a much more flavorful fungus than Tuber gibbosum, IMHO. Chef Greg Higgins refers to it as "a bass note" in cooking, compared to and "alto note" for Tuber gibbosum. It has deep smoke and woody aromas, and dried to a nearly black color. Fresh mature specimens can be every bit as aromatic as dried morels. Regretfully, they also mature at about the same time morels become available. Barssia oregonensis is a distinctive truffle; almost always with a central depression or hole leading into the gleba, much like Genea sps. It is usually associated with Douglas fir, but has been rarely found with Western hemlock. Unlike Genea, Barssia has developed a filling of the interior, and has reddish spores at maturity, along with a reddish gleba with a slick or glassey feel. This truffle is edible, and is best used simply in a simple white sauce over baked or mashed potatoes. The taste is sweet with a slightly metallic aftertaste. Hymenogaster parksii is found most months of the year. While some people may find it edible as a survival food, it is not something I'd eat before starving. The aroma is strongly gaseous. The peridium is white and very thin, and is easily worn away or eroded while cleaning or washing. The gleba is porous, usually with an interior columella-like structure, usually white to somewhat yellowish. Tuber gibbosum is still being found, but has become progressively more uncommon in the last month. Mature T. gibbosum has become finacially important in recent years as a common mycorrhizal associate of Douglas fir. Look for it in level or gently sloping areas of less than 5 degrees. It often is found on top of ridges. For recipe suggestions see the website below. Daniel B. Wheeler http://www.oregonwhitetruffles.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sat May 16 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: pandoc@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Aspergillus niger Date: 16 May 1998 23:17:12 -0700 Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 5 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <355E4E39.2933@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-NETCOM-Date: Sat May 16 10:35:54 PM CDT 1998 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-NC320 (Win16; I) Help is needed with A.niger project. Anyone who can culture please respond. Thanks From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Mon May 18 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: dwheeler@teleport.com Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Pluteus on mixed woodchips Date: 18 May 1998 22:24:47 -0700 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 23 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6jphj1$94f$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 18 14:45:53 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) In downtown Portland, Oregon near my home yesterday, I noticed a fairly large flush of mushrooms growing from a large, deep mulch of mixed woodchips. One of these appeared to be a largish Pluteus sps. I have often wondered whether edible Pluteus could be cultured on such substrate. Has anyone else heard of any Pluteus being cultured on other than sterilized substrate? In talking to the owner (how else do you explain an interest in someone's mushrooms?) I learned that she believed Morchella sps. had also fruited earlier in the year from the distribution of chips. It appears that she is intent in covering her entire yard and making it into a blueberry/ rhododendron/tree planting. Unfortunately, she had already covered the morels with mulch several weeks ago... Comments? Daniel B. Wheeler http://www.oregonwhitetruffles.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Tue May 19 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: News Server Administrator Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: News Server Change Date: 20 May 1998 09:10:10 -0700 Organization: Faculteit Bedrijfskunde, Erasmus University Rotterdam Lines: 18 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <6ju383$pi9@bets.fbk.eur.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net This is the last message of this Usenet discussion group that will be posted to this news server, news.fbk.eur.nl. As from now you should use the central EUR discussion group server. 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Kees Visser From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 27 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Joseph Heitman Newsgroups: bionet.microbiology,bionet.mycology Subject: Postdoc Positions Available at Duke, HHMI (Signal Transduction) Date: 27 May 1998 23:12:14 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 45 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <35659CF8.582E@mc.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Xref: biosci bionet.microbiology:13575 bionet.mycology:7149 Post-doctoral positions available to study the signal transduction pathways regulating pseudohyphal differentiation in Saccharomyces cerevisiae, and in mating, filamentous growth, and virulence in Cryptococcus neoformans. Our recents studies define a conserved G protein and cAMP dependent signaling cascade that operates in parallel with MAP kinase signaling cascades regulating differentiation in yeast and pathogenic fungi. Current areas of interest focus on the receptors and ligands that activate this signaling cascade, the targets of G protein and cAMP action, components of MAP kinase signaling pathways,and on the receptors and ligands that activate this signaling cascade, the targets of G protein and cAMP action, components of MAP kinase signaling pathways, and the structure and function of the MAT loci in C. neoformans. We also study signaling pathways that are inhibited by immunosuppressive drugs in both yeast and pathogenic fungi. Our lab is funded by the Howard Hughes Medical Institute,grants from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, the National Cancer Institute, and a Burroughs Wellcome Fund Scholar Award in Molecular Pathogenic Mycology. Please send a description of research interests, CV, reprints/preprints, and the names and phone numbers of three references to: Joseph Heitman, MD, PhD Departments of Genetics, Pharmacology and Cancer Biology, and Medicine Howard Hughes Medical Institute 322 CARL Building Research Drive Duke University Medical Center Durham, NC 27710 919-684-2824 919-684-5458 (FAX) heitm001@mc.duke.edu for recent publications, see: EMBO Journal 16: 2576-2589, 1997 EMBO Journal 16: 7008-7018, 1997 Genes and Development, 11, 3206-3217, 1997 EMBO Journal, 17: 1236-1247, 1998 PNAS 94: 13093-13098, 1997 From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 27 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: andy.zaayenga@bigfoot.com (Andy Zaayenga) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: Announcement: June 11th Robotics Meeting Date: 27 May 1998 23:12:08 -0700 Organization: ICGNetcom Lines: 241 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <356ce23d.25573309@nntp.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-NETCOM-Date: Wed May 27 11:08:07 PM CDT 1998 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 The Laboratory Robotics Interest Group June 1998 Meeting The Fourth Annual Vendor's Night Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 Place: Forsgate Country Club Forsgate Drive, Jamesburg, NJ 08831        Phone: (732)521-0070 Itinerary: Exhibitions - 4:30 to 10:00 PM            Presentations - 7:00 to 9:30 PM Member Pre-Registration: Requested, not required. Pre-registering will allow us to more accurately gauge seating requirements and refreshment needs. Indicate names of attendees and company affiliation. Pre-register by email with or by phone at (732)302-1038. In order to speed sign-in at the meeting, please bring a business card to drop into the registration box. There will be a business card drawing for one of our beautiful LRIG rosewood pens. Agenda: Fifty-six vendor tables of laboratory automation software and hardware will exhibit, demonstrating their latest products and services. Presentations are featured in a separate hall during the exhibition. To be considered for a presentation slot, please send us an abstract. Extensive hors d’oerves, courtesy of the vendors, will be available as well as a cash bar. The proceeds from this vendor funded exhibition are used to finance mailings and pay for various costs of running the group. In this way the LRIG can operate without collecting dues. Please support the group by attending this informative and entertaining meeting. Last year’s Vendor’s Night was extremely successful and we hope to surpass that turnout. For more information contact Andy Zaayenga , Secretary, or any of the LRIG officers listed below. There are hotels nearby for attendees who wish to stay overnight. Members interested in presenting a poster are encouraged to do so. Open career positions at your company may be announced or posted.  There is no fee to attend the meeting. ______________________________________ Exhibitors: Absorption Systems Airfiltronix Corp. Amersham Pharmacia Biotech Argonaut Technologies Beckman Instruments Inc. Becton Dickinson Labware Biotica Bohdan Automation Inc. Brandel Biomedical Cartesian Technologies, Inc. Charybdis Technologies, Inc. Comdisco Laboratory & Scientific Group Corning, Inc. CRS Robotics Corporation CyberLab Inc. Datavision Inc. EG&G Wallac Inc. EMAX Solution Partners Fisher Scientific GeneVac Gilson Inc. Greiner America Groton Neochem LLC Hamilton Company Hudson Control Group Inc. IGEN LEAP Technologies Inc Marsh Biomedical Products Matrix Technologies Corp. Millipore Nalge Nunc International NEN Life Science Products Inc. Packard Instruments PerSeptive Biosystems Robbins Scientific Corporation Skatron Instruments Source For Automation Inc. ST Robotics International Tecan US Inc. TekCel Titertek Instruments Tomtec Inc. Triad Scientific Tropix Inc. Universal Imaging Corporation USA / Scientific Plastics Vangard International Inc. Waters Corporation Whatman/Polyfiltronics Xenopore Corporation Zymark Corporation ______________________________________ Presentation:  Design strategy and implementation of an automated system for performing Ultra High Throughput Screening using the current generation of assay technologies Mary Jo Wildey, Ph.D. Research Fellow, New Leads Discovery, Robert Wood Johnson PRI, Raritan, NJ Michael Girardi Zymark Corporation Expanding the new drug development pipeline is one of the keys to the race to market for new drugs. Despite a number of promising new developments in combinatorial chemistry and rational drug design most new leads still come >From empirical testing. This has placed an urgent emphasis on increasing the throughput of screening to rates as high as 100,000 assays/day. While the step to UHTS will offer several long term benefits, successful implementation will depend on reducing the technical risks, maintaining assay flexibility, and leveraging existing down stream and up stream processes. Some argue that the quantum step to 100,000 points per day will only be realized with new assay technologies and emerging higher density plate formats. This talk will discuss an automated approach which uses robust production validated technology and allows current generation of assays to be run at UHTS rates - today, with the flexibility to be easily reconfigured to different assay formats, as needs change. Zymark has developed such a solution called Allegroä , and is currently under contract with 4 collaborators. Some of the results of the first beta test with RW Johnson Pharmaceutical Research Institute will be discussed. This includes methods validation data on different assay formats, as well as preliminary evaluation of the technology. ______________________________________ Presentation:  ORIGEN Technology for performing High-Throughput compound screening assays Charles Grimshaw, Ph.D. IGEN Corporation IGEN possesses a proprietary technology which utilizes electrochemiluminescent detection to analyze levels of analytes, enzymatic activities, binding events, nucleic acids, etc.. The technology delivers highly sensitive and precise answers in a homogeneous format, allowing labs to decrease the amount of rare reagents and labor required to discover hits in target assays. ______________________________________ Presentation:  Michelle Palmer Director, Assay Developmet Services Mark T. Roskey, Ph.D. Director, Pharmaceutical Screening Systems Perkin-Elmer Tropix Inc. ______________________________________ Presentation:  Research Automation: An Integrated Approach to Proprietary and Commercial Substance Supply, Preparation, Tracking, and Request Fulfillment Using Novel Information Management Technology David A. Kniaz Project Director EMAX Solution Partners Companies that invest in leading combinatorial chemistry and high throughput screening technologies need a way to manage the large volumes of proprietary and commercial substance data created through these automated processes. Research and development organizations can accelerate their drug discovery process and control costs through an integrated substance management solution. This presentation will discuss how an integrated substance management solution can bring the following basic elements of logistics management into place:             *     reagent ordering and supply             *     stockroom management             *     container tracking             *     proprietary compound inventory management             *     micro-titer plate preparation and tracking ______________________________________ Presentation:  An Open, Modular Software Architecture for Laboratory Automation Carl Murray Software Development Manager Beckman / Sagian Beckman Coulter's new operating environment for laboratory automation is a robot-independent, application-independent architecture that allows applications to be built from reusable, modular components. Each function, such as device control, data logging, labware transportation, or execution control, is managed by an independent module written industry-standard programming tools. A messaging architecture allows these modules to work together, and permits easy integration of any application that supports ActiveX components, such as Microsoft Excel. Data management is standardized, and data can be manipulated by several modules simultaneously. New modules can be introduced without side effects, and old modules can be updated without compromising the upgrade path of the system. An example of a system built with this architecture, Beckman's Core Systems, is used to illustrate the concepts. ______________________________________ For more information contact: Executive Chair: Dennis France dennis.france@pharma.novartis.com (973)781-6030 Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation Secretary: Andy Zaayenga andy.zaayenga@tekcel.com (732)302-1038 TekCel Corporation Analytical Chemistry Chair and Treasurer: William Haller bhaller@ompus.jnj.com (908)218-6341 Ortho-McNeil High Throughput Screening Chair: John Babiak, Ph.D. babiakj@war.wyeth.com (732)274-4788 Wyeth-Ayerst Research Agricultural Applications Chair: Sharon Reed reeds@pt.cyanamid.com (609)716-2905 American Cyanamid Data Management Chair: Steve Fillers, Ph.D. william.fillers@pharma.novartis.com (908)277-7723 Novartis Pharmaceuticals Corporation ______________________________________ Directions: From the North or South: Take the New Jersey Turnpike to Exit 8A - Exit the left ramp for Jamesburg (Route 32 East) - Continue straight for 1 1/4 miles through traffic light - Forsgate Country Club is on your left - Use the Clubhouse Entrance (second left). From Princeton: Route 1 to Scudders Mill Road East - Continue on Scudders Mill Road and make a left at the 5th traffic light onto Dey Road - Continue on Dey Road to the end  - Make a left  - At 2nd traffic light (Route 32) make a right - Continue straight for 1 1/4 miles through traffic light - Forsgate Country Club is on your left - Use the Clubhouse entrance (second left). ______________________________________ Group Update: Paul Skerker of Leukosite and Donna Norton of Pharmalytic won rosewood LRIG pen sets in the business card drawing. A business card drawing will be held at the June meeting. ______________________________________ Visit The Laboratory Robotics Interest Group homepage at http://lab-robotics.org From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Wed May 27 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Michelle Ragozzino Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: A mushroom course in No. CA Date: 27 May 1998 23:12:00 -0700 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 68 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <356CB8AD.6E779806@uclink4.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) UC BERKELEY EXTENSION OFFERS HANDS-ON WORKSHOP ON CULTIVATING EXOTIC AND MEDICINAL MUSHROOMS This summer, internationally known mycologist Mo-Mei Chen will teach a two-day laboratory workshop on exotic and medicinal mushrooms, including Tainma and Cordyceps mushrooms. By the end of the workshop, participants will have the necessary information, schedules and spawn to enable them to produce a mushroom crop within one month. Mushrooms: Farming, Spawn Production and Marketing, will meet Saturday and Sunday, June 27-28, 10am-5pm, at the Forest Products Laboratory, Richmond Field Station in Richmond, CA (near San Francisco). The fee for this two-day workshop is $450. Enrollment is limited to 20 participants. Mo-Mei Chen, from the People's Republic of China, is currently a visiting scholar at the UC Berkeley Jepson Herbarium and the University of California Forest Products Laboratory. She had been a researcher and consultant to the international mushroom industry for more than 20 years. Along with Chen, several graduate students will assist participants with the lab sessions. The course will also feature guest lecturers. Course topics include: overviews of local marketing for mushroom spawn products and spawn culture production; identification of edible mushrooms; and discussion of environmental conditions for mushroom growing. Participants will also learn selling and marketing techniques to assist them in becoming financially successful mushroom farmers. Chen will provide participants with five rare and valuable high-quality and high-yield mushroom spawns from her own supply, including high-quality, wide-range shiitake; special high-production, high-yield, short-growing-cycle super oyster; enoki salad mushroom; ling zhi; and morel. During the workshop participants will prepare media and inoculate their own mushroom cultures, which they will keep. They will also learn about and use equipment and high-technology techniques so they can develop their own mushroom farm. - MORE - UC BERKELEY EXTENSION / Mushroom Cultivation / page 2 For more information, contact Chris Markus at UC Berkeley Extension at (510) 643-0598. UC Berkeley Extension's address on the World Wide Web is http://www.unex.berkeley.edu:4243. Calendar Listing MUSHROOM CULTIVATION--Mushrooms: Farming, Spawn Production and Marketing, will meet Saturday and Sunday, June 27-28, 10am-5pm, at the Forest Products Laboratory, Richmond Field Station in Richmond. Fee: $450 includes spawn culture strains and in-class laboratory work and supplies. For details, call UC Berkeley Extension at (510) 643-0598. From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sat May 30 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: Hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr (environnement.ensaia.u-nancy.fr) Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: movement of microorganisms through soil Date: 31 May 1998 09:08:47 -0700 Organization: environnement.ensaia.u-nancy.fr Lines: 28 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear members: I would appreciate if any of you could inform me or share any experiences related to the mobility of microorganisms in the soil. Which parameters can act and influence the mobility or the movement of microorganisms through soil? i ask the question because in the same soil, i have found an adaptaion of microflora to degrade atrazine . But these observations have not been generalized on all the surface studied. Any related references would also be appreciated. Please to e-mail directly : hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr Thank you in advance, sincerely yours, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- M. Salem HAYAR Ecole Nationale Superieure d'Agronomie et des Industries Alimentaires 2, avenue de la Foret de Haye Laboratoire Sols et Environnement associe INRA, B.P. 172 54505 Vandoeuvre-Les-Nancy Cedex, FRANCE Tel.: (+33) 03.83.59.59.59 poste 5107 Telecopie : (+33) 03.83.59.59.16 Mailto:hayar@ensaia.u-nancy.fr ______________________________________________ From owner-mycology@net.bio.net Sun May 31 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: biota@onramp.net Newsgroups: bionet.mycology Subject: 100 New Tools Added to BioToolKit Date: 1 Jun 1998 05:55:11 -0700 Organization: OnRamp, http://www.onramp.net/ Lines: 30 Sender: nospam@net.bio.net Approved: news@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <35716243.55A7@onramp.net> Reply-To: biota@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) The BioToolKit, an annotated directory of over 600 online molecular biology resources ( http://rampages.onramp.net/~biota) has recently added links to many new resources, including: ACUTS (Ancient Conserved Untranslated Sequences) dbCFC (Cytokine Family database) DNA Patent Database CD Guides (cell surface markers) MAR-Finder (Matrix Attachment Regions) In Situ PCR on Plant Material Vacuum Infiltration Transformation of Arabidopsis PPMdb (Plant Plasma Membrane database) MitBASE (comprehensive mitochondrial database) GenProtEC (E.coli gene relationships) The Interactive Fly WormPep (predicted proteins in C.elegans) WebMolecules VRML Player (analyzes your system, suggests viewers) 3-D Crunch (SWISS-MODEL predicts 50,000 structures) Atlas of Protein Topology Cartoons (simple 2-D diagrams) Movies of Protein Motions Protein Morphing Server PROMISE: Prosthetic Groups and Metal Ions in Protein Active Sites ADOPS: Associative Database of Protein Sequences NeuronDB Complete descriptions of these sites and links are found by clicking through to the BioToolKit host site from http://rampages.onramp.net ~biota. 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