From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!neubio.sld.ar!Postmaster From: Postmaster@neubio.sld.ar (Administrador del Nodo) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Use of wavepackets in non-digital processimg Date: 2 Oct 1996 12:08:13 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 56 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <568jb836@neubio.sld.ar> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hello, neuronetters!! Dear Ron (Blue), Thank you for sharing also in our suffered forum the news on an automaton that claims to use quantum waves in its processing. Just this is of course the point that I deem of high interest here, all the remaining staying subsidiary in our professional concerns. Many neuroscientists have still no access to the web and only e-mail, so they (including us) can- not read the specifications. Besides, it is expectable that such specifications have been written with commercial purpo- ses. Could you be so kind as to begin trying to exact the de- tailed claims ONLY about the "use of waves" in such a processing? Let me insist, to be clear. First off we need to evaluate the claim itself, to recognize if it is serious or, instead, revindicates it lightly, as sorry to say it is to be dis- criminated in a first approach. To this end the sensible point is knowing just that. Not what happens with "particles"; and less the beneficent uses such a device could be later put to. Any insis- tence into these other subjects is to be interpreted as a swerving to elude the question. Also any explanation of physical principles is completely out of place here. I am sure that many colleagues in this forum --specially, many who abstained in some recent discu- ssions-- need not such a tutorial. As you know, we are prone to hail the advance as it deserves: most enthusiastically, since as you also know many of us can really appreciate its significance. But we first need INEXCUSABLY a down-to-earth description of what is claimed as the implementation of wavepackets, clearly and succintly claimed. It is not of course to be evaluated on philosophical grounds. And its failure to be produced, or its being unoperational, or requiring anything unacceptable to a Patent Office specification, would be in- compatible with going ahead with further tests. Would you try, please, to exact such a clear and succint explanation describing how wave packets are claimed to been technically implemented therein? We eagerly wait for such a posting! Cyberkisses for everybody! Mariela =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Prof. Mariela Szirko, Centro de Investig. Neurobiologicas, Ministry of Health & Welfare, Argentine Republic; and Lab. of Electroneurobiological Res., Neuropsychiatric Hospital "Dr. Jose Tiburcio Borda", Municipality of Buenos Aires, Office: Phone/Fax (54 1) 306 -7314 e-mail Standard disclaimer: Las opiniones de este mensaje son personales y no comprometen las dependencias a cargo de la firmante Reply to THIS message, ONLY to: =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!enews.sgi.com!EU.net!usenet2.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!info-server.surrey.ac.uk!memacdb1.mech.surrey.ac.uk!user From: D.Banks@surrey.ac.uk (Danny Banks) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Why dont we hear/see individual neural firing events?? Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 21:23:17 +0100 Organization: Biomedical Engineering Group, University of Surrey Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <50qkeh$76o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <525f4e$97t@ren.cei.net> <324819FF.5395@geocities.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: memacdb1.mech.surrey.ac.uk > > radams2000@aol.com (RAdams2000) enunciated: [snip] > > why dont we > > >hear the collection of firing events as noise?? The standard argument > > >seems to be that if you average (filter) some number of these fibers, > > >the "noise" would be eleiminated, but a few basic calculations show > > >that even a few thousand fibers averaged with a time constant on the > > >order of a millisecond would only have a signal-to-noise ratio of > > >40 dB or so; not exactly hi-fi! [snip] (e-mailing and posting, since no news seems to be leaving our server at the moment but I thought the group would be interested). I recall an article in a magazine or journal not too long ago that suggested that some signal analysis systems could benefit from having a specific level of noise in them; i.e. that there was an optimal noise level for processing the signal - too little or too much noise would cause the performance of the system to suffer. The ear / auditory system was presented as an example of such a system. Unfortunately I can't remember what journal or magazine this was in. I seem to recall that some mathematical analysis was presented to support the article, so it could have been a decent scientific publication :-/ Danny. -- Danny Banks. D.Banks@surrey.ac.uk ------------ http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/D.Banks/index.html ----------- "The variables vary too much and the constants aren't as constant as they seem" From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!nntp.uib.no!nntp-bergen.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!daresbury!not-for-mail From: freeman@systems.caltech.edu (Robert Freeman) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Conference: Nerual Networks in the Capital Markets 9/20/96 Date: 2 Oct 1996 08:16:50 +0100 Lines: 222 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <52t4t2$6q0@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: Vision-List@teleos.com ******************************************************************************* --- Registration Package and Preliminary Program --- NNCM-96 FOURTH INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE NEURAL NETWORKS IN THE CAPITAL MARKETS Wednesday-Friday, November 20-22, 1996 The Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Pasadena, California, U.S.A. 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Secretariat: For further information, please contact the NNCM-96 secretariat: Ms. Lucinda Acosta, Caltech 136-93, Pasadena, CA 91125, U.S.A. e-mail: lucinda@sunoptics.caltech.edu phone (818) 395-4843, fax (818) 795-0326 ******************************************************************************* From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!csulb.edu!news.sgi.com!news.mathworks.com!wizard.pn.com!news.gte.com!news-in.tiac.net!uunet!news-in2.uu.net!news.Arizona.EDU!usenet From: bill@nsma.arizona.edu (Bill Skaggs) Newsgroups: alt.dreams,alt.dreams.lucid,bionet.neuroscience,sci.bio.misc Subject: Re: Brain Wave Monitor Date: 01 Oct 1996 20:24:30 -0700 Organization: ARL Division of Neural Systems, Memory and Aging Lines: 27 Sender: bill@amygdala.nsma.arizona.edu Message-ID: References: <01bbaf90$75c644a0$b3b3989e@marzipan.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: amygdala.nsma.arizona.edu In-reply-to: "Jonathan Baker"'s message of Tue, 01 Oct 1996 19:09:35 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Xref: biosci bionet.neuroscience:15967 sci.bio.misc:5202 "Jonathan Baker" writes: > I'm studying states of consciousness and the brain, and would > like to build a brain wave monitor. THis should be a fairly > simple but sensitive radio receiver but I can not find any > information about the frequencies emmited by the brain during > different states - alpha, gamma etc. > > After studying the frequencies emmited during certain activities > I hope to be able to stimulate the brain using EM waves during > sleep to induce different types of dreams. All of the important brain waves have frequencies well below 1 KHz (e.g., 10 Hz for alpha, 30-70 Hz for gamma), so a radio receiver won't get them. The only reasonably cheap way of picking them up is to place electrodes on the head. Even then, the signals only have an amplitude of a few microvolts or less, so you need to have good strong amplifiers and pay careful attention to shielding if you hope to get any results. Medical libraries usually have several books that go into these matters in great detail. Also, stimulating with EM waves is likely to be pretty dangerous unless you know what you're doing. The line between "no effect" and "epileptic seizure" isn't all that broad, at least for certain ranges of stimulus frequency. -- Bill From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!faseb.org!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!s.psych.uiuc.edu!kspencer From: kspencer@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Kevin Spencer) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Why dont we hear/see individual neural firing events?? Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:53:28 GMT Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology Lines: 23 Message-ID: <52ua6o$16f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <50qkeh$76o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <525f4e$97t@ren.cei.net> <324819FF.5395@geocities.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s.psych.uiuc.edu X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #6 D.Banks@surrey.ac.uk (Danny Banks) writes: >I recall an article in a magazine or journal not too long ago that suggested >that some signal analysis systems could benefit from having a specific >level of noise in them; i.e. that there was an optimal noise level for >processing the signal - too little or too much noise would cause the >performance of the system to suffer. The ear / auditory system was presented >as an example of such a system. >Unfortunately I can't remember what journal or magazine this was in. I seem >to recall that some mathematical analysis was presented to support the >article, so it could have been a decent scientific publication :-/ There was an article in Scientific American in the last year or so on this topic -- stochastic resonance. Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Spencer Cognitive Psychophysiology Laboratory and Beckman Institute University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign kspencer@p300.cpl.uiuc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!indyvax.iupui.edu!indyvax.iupui.edu!nntp Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Tocris Neuramin? Message-ID: <32529C35.7846@indyunix.iupui.edu> From: "J.R. Simon" Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 09:45:41 -0700 Reply-To: jsimon@indyunix.iupui.edu References: <52hian$i8k@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Organization: IU School of Medicine Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.68.153.15 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hannah Dvorak Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Hannah Dvorak wrote: > > Greetings, > > Does anybody have a current phone and/or fax number for Tocris > Neuramin? I tried the number in their 1993 catalogue and it was > out of service. > > Thanks! > > - Hannah Dvorak > > -- > Hannah Dvorak > Division of Biology 216-76 > California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125 Currently, they are Tocris Cookson. (800) 421-3701. Hope this helps. J.R. Simon From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uni.edu!sunbird.usd.edu!sundance!canders From: Curt Anderson Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: non-Grass integrator? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:41:37 -0500 Organization: University of South Dakota Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sundance.usd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: canders@sundance Does anyone currently make a non-computer based integrator besides Grass? I don't want to go through the polygraph, and it can be done through a regular pre-amp, but it's a royal pain for the price you have to pay. I think Astro-Med used to make one, but now that Grass took over, it's not available anymore. Thanks, Curt Curt Anderson University of South Dakota School of Medicine Dept. of Anatomy & Structural Biology Vermillion, SD 57069 canders@sundance.usd.edu From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!LEX.LCCC.EDU!rcb1 From: rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Quantum Computer Has Been Constructed (fwd) Date: 2 Oct 1996 05:46:15 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 78 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- October 1, 1996 Fort Smith, Arkansas, USA Official Press Release From Neutronics Technologies Corporation: Please forward: Neutronics Technologies Corporation announces the completion of the world's first room temperature, cold dynamic system, QUANTUM computer without decoherence. The device functions with single state bits making up variable QUBYTES. The result has been Little Ricci; Real Independently Controlled Computational Intelligence. Little Ricci is an intelligent robotic device the company calls a 'noid', and is non-programmed, non radio controlled, non digital and autonomous. The device consists of visual (non video) inputs, two parallel processors further paralleled by threes, in a self controlled mobile platform. The Neutronics Dynamic System is a new electromotive protocol using a non- magnetic field quantum intelligent system that functions from a 9 Volt battery. Additional power supplies are present for motor and conversion functions. The company expects to begin licensing this technology by year's end. A brief overview: Quantum computation has settled into the binary mentality of particle states thereby ignoring the wave functions of quantum duality. The Neutronics Dynamic System is the only true Quantum computational process as it uses both wave and particle functions and accomplishes a replacement for digital computing with massive increases in processing potentials. The Neutronics Dynamic System does not use standard electronics to accomplish its functions. A neutral chamber functioning in the opposite wave of direct current allows the system to function at a quantum level in room temperature without decoherence. The design architecture incorporates a structure which is intelligence yet Not artificial intelligence. It is what the company claims to be :Intelligence in an Artificial Environment. NTC is in the process of entertaining overtures from potential investors seeking to capitalize on the technology. The company has not determined the final location of its laboratory and world headquarters. A short list of potential sites has been developed and includes Roanoke, Virginia; Allentown, Pennsylvania and other sites in the United States as well as Birmingham, England. Information on specifics of the search process is available at the company Location Search page on the internet. Neutronics Technologies Corporation is also announcing the formation of a project to put this technology to its first commercial use in project TAWS: The Tornado Advanced Warning System, a ground based, locally controlled early warning system for severe weather conditions. The company is considering numerous sites for the first field trial of the TAWS operating system. Video footage of little Ricci and project TAWS in .avi format as well as descriptive and supportive materials on the operation of Neutronics Quantum Qubytes is available on the world wide web at http://www.aston.ac.uk/~abswww/Neutronics/ Important papers include Understanding The Quantum 5th Generation Processing System, On The Ramifications Of The Replication Of Intelligence and Correlational Opponent Processing. For additional information and interview prospects contact:: Gerald Baton, President at batong@aston.ac.uk or refer to the CONTACT page on the world wide web for telephone or direct mail correspondence to Neutronics Technologies Corporation PO Box 3127 Fort Smith, Arkansas, 72913 USA. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Tue Oct 01 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!newspump.sol.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: Dawn Capp Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: FREE SERVICE to research authors Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:37:39 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3252EEB3.3458@tam2000.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp0b-13.rns.tamu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Capp Scientific is offering a free service to authors of research papers who have difficulty getting published. See http://members.aol.com/CappSci for more info. This is a non-profit venture to futher scientific knowledge. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!LEX.LCCC.EDU!rcb1 From: rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Use of wavepackets in non-digital processimg Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:27:17 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <568jb836@neubio.sld.ar> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net On 2 Oct 1996, Administrador del Nodo wrote: > Hello, neuronetters!! > Dear Ron (Blue), > > Thank you for sharing also in our suffered > forum the news on an automaton that claims to use quantum waves > in its processing. Just this is of course the point that I deem > of high interest here, all the remaining staying subsidiary in > our professional concerns. Many neuroscientists have still no >>>CUT>> Thanks for you comments. As far as the answer to your technical questions that responsibility is NTC. You are aready aware of Correlational Opponent-Processing and had been informed that it could be used to model a learning machine. As you might understand patents and patent rights are of primary interest to NTC. You desire for more information is quiet understandable. Thanks for your understanding and interest. Ron Blue From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!LEX.LCCC.EDU!rcb1 From: rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Sneezing Date: 3 Oct 1996 15:51:34 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 118 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <32534A84.2722@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Scott Jacoves wrote: > I'm laughing as I write this, because I first heard of this unfortunate > side effect when I was five. > Okay, I can't really saw for sure if a sneeze kills brain cells. > There's a temporary increase in sinus pressure, and I'm not sure if that > would do anything. My only real comment is that I'm somewhat stumped on > coming up with an experimental design to test the hypothesis. Induce > animals to sneeze and then search for unlocalized damage? That sounds a > bit more tedious than most neurological techniques. > > I do have a question on sneezing, though. Does anyone have any ideas > why one seems to have a greater chance of sneezing than normal when they > step outside and into bright sunlight? Interesting question. People with brain damage and seizures are more likely to report this I believe. Consider this, light is a a maximum level of intensity. Damage could result in wavelets of opposite phases without balance. So two multiple informations systems are being stimulated at the highest level. Resulting in a third harmonic oscillon which means sneeze. This is similar to the report on little Ricci, the intellibot avoid a dark area where the rug ended and the beginning of the dark wood. Remember he is doing this with NO program. He has learned and emitts his own responses as a correlational opponent-process. This is also similar to the pain picture. For example consider this: From: Ron Blue Subject: Re: Pain Inducing Patterns picture at http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~peprbv/pain.html On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Jagan Narayanan wrote: > Hi Guys: >I also downloaded the picture and looked at it. There is nothing unique about > it. If you change the colors from black and white to red and blue you >get the same feeling. If you do concentric circles instead of lines you >will have the same feeling. What is the big deal here?? > >>>>cut > > Shouldn't there be a control group for this experiment? Perhaps I asked 14 students if they felt pleasure while looking at the pain picture. No one reported pleasure. Two reported pain. I said each time that you are are suppose to feel pleasure. The big deal? The picture is a stationary image. Assuming that the brain processes information in oscillations and that random thermal noise is gaussian from the central limit principle - a stationary signal will be oscillated into a gaussian pattern. The following is a guess. Using the principles in Random Vibrations, Spectral & Wavelet Analysis by D.E. Newland (c) 1993, I believe the following would be true. 1. the wave patterns of white can be viewed as an ON signal that is linear correlated to vertical positions. The bandwidths are correlated, the black is an OFF signal and is correlated. The black bandwidths are correlated. The correlation is +1. Auto correlation would be 1. 2. The black/white patterns are cross correlated. The correlation is one. The frequency or harmonic of white pattern and black pattern are perfectly correlated since they were sampled and seeded with the same wave frequency used for neuroprocessing. Fourier equation and inverse fourier equations would be equal. Periodic or circular correlation functions would be 1. The spectral density would be equal. Overlapping correlational functions would be equal. Black/white, blue/yellow, red/green are opponent process. This means that when a blue stimulus had been habituated the opposite color yellow will be observed in a grey visual field. ALL FUNCTIONS ARE AT THEIR MAXIMUM VALUE resulting in the FAILURE message of the neuro system to be activated. To us this means pain. Why only one in six or seven? Why only one in ten with strong pain? A guess. I have vision problems. My perception is frequently distorted. The correlations for me can not be at their maximum. Also the frequency of oscillation generated by randomly looking at the stimulus should be gaussian. So only 1/6 would be the values at the maximum range of a gaussian distribution assuming that the brain is engaging in wavelet analysis due to opponent process is working on a six standard deviation formula. These are pure speculations. The 1/6 is similar to the reported hexagons that overlapped in some migraine auras. This mathematical pattern I believe is tell us HOW the brain process information. Assume pain is a stochastic resonance of a zero sum or flat line resultant over all band widths. For any observation data looks chaotic but it is totally deterministic. Visualize a wave machine made two sheets of flat glass, colored water, and oil on top of the water. Also consider multiple wave machines in front of each other and wave machines perpendicular to each other as representing a neuro projection area. Sorry, back to the simple model. The total wave length possible is the width of the glass. The sum of all wave patterns for the oil and water is zero or a flat line. At any particular location on the wave machine (i.e. neuro activity in the pain system) the activity looks chaotic but can be causally linked to the vibrations on the wave machine. Stranglely when you move away from the oscillation location decreased activity is noticed, and increased in activity in noticed in areas that should not be related to the original location. If you backup and look at the wave machine the connect in now obvious. You are observing TWO waves. The top wave is an inversion of the bottom. The power spectral is zero for the opponent process and the activation process over the bandwidth! From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!EU.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!erin.utoronto.ca!news From: Scott Jacoves Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Sneezing Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 01:09:24 -0400 Organization: Erindale College, University of Toronto, Canada Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32534A84.2722@credit.erin.utoronto.ca> References: <325120DB.2DA8@ac.edu> Reply-To: sjacoves@credit.erin.utoronto.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: jeddore.erin.utoronto.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b7 (Win95; I) I'm laughing as I write this, because I first heard of this unfortunate side effect when I was five. Okay, I can't really saw for sure if a sneeze kills brain cells. There's a temporary increase in sinus pressure, and I'm not sure if that would do anything. My only real comment is that I'm somewhat stumped on coming up with an experimental design to test the hypothesis. Induce animals to sneeze and then search for unlocalized damage? That sounds a bit more tedious than most neurological techniques. I do have a question on sneezing, though. Does anyone have any ideas why one seems to have a greater chance of sneezing than normal when they step outside and into bright sunlight? From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!southwind.net!ict80.southwind.net!user From: jnaylor@southwind.net Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Quantum Computer Has Been Constructed (fwd) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:25:45 -0700 Organization: SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ict80.southwind.net In article , rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) wrote: [snip] >A neutral chamber functioning in the > opposite wave of direct current allows the system to function at a > quantum level in room temperature without decoherence. ...wave of direct current...??? If anyone can put this in terms my poor Little quantum computer can comprehend, I promise not to try selling you the swamp land I've got out back. -- Jim jnaylor@southwind.net From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.coast.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: kenneth paul collins Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: semantic categorisation and movement Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:42:31 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32536057.3AA6@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <324F0F18.367F@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> <32519F9D.17E1@geocities.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.bridgeton-054.mo.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Michael A. Lebedev, Ph.D. wrote: > > An alternative interpretation: > > Pictures with living objects are just the one that can be recognized > easier. All these rabbits, elephants, ducks etc. are less living > objects per se than they are symbols that we encounter every day in our > lives (merchandise symbolics, cartoons, etc.). On the other hand, the > non-living objects that you showed might have been from a less > frequently used set of symbols. > > Michael your point is well-taken... I'd overlooked the possibility that there might be a "secondary" correlation in my prior response... Kerry says that "familiarity" was controlled, though... I'm ready to beg a ticket to Austrailia to have a first-hand look at the experiemntal trials :-) ken collins _____________________________________________________ People hate because they fear, and they fear because they do not understand, and they do not understand because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.coast.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: kenneth paul collins Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: semantic categorisation and movement Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:37:37 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32535F31.18AB@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <324F0F18.367F@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> <3250A62F.2E0A@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <3252F8E1.47E@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.bridgeton-054.mo.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Hmmm... "all [...] were highly familiar"... ...did you categorize your subjects by profession ("sub-culture")? ken Kerry Bennett wrote: > > Thank-you for this contribution > > Prior to the main experiment we tested 15 other participants for 42 > stimuli on three perceptual features: familiarity, visual complexity, > and visual agreement. The pictures were all obtained from a reasonably > standardised set(Snodgrass and Vanderwart, 1980). From these 42 we > selected 30 which were comparable across these three features; that is, > all (irrespective of category) were highly familiar, not very complex > and agreed with the mental representation of the object. > > One contributor who contacted us privately via email has suggested to > look at 'hardness' vs 'softness', and aspects of linear composition of > the stimuli. This same contributor has also suggested using words to > tease out whether it is a semantic effect or a perceptual effect.__________________________________________________ People hate because they fear, and they fear because they do not understand, and they do not understand because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!EU.net!uunet!news-in2.uu.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: kenneth paul collins Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: basic question Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:28:13 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <32535CFD.751B@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.bridgeton-054.mo.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Stephen Black wrote: > Thanks for the informative correction to my statement that conduction is > always one-way across synapses (although it's a bit worrisome that my > posts seem to be getting confused with those of Ken Collins). Hello... I'd dearly appreciate it if you'd flesh out your meaning a bit... ken collins _____________________________________________________ People hate because they fear, and they fear because they do not understand, and they do not understand because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!PARADOX.PSYCH.COLUMBIA.EDU!liu From: liu@PARADOX.PSYCH.COLUMBIA.EDU (Taosheng Liu) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: stroke info needed Date: 2 Oct 1996 23:14:24 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 7 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Hi, Can anyone give me some reference on stroke? I need a general and good introduction of stroke: its basic pathology and better if there is some mention of cognitive deficits. A review or a book chapter will be fine. Thanks very much. Taosheng Liu From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!khmayson From: khmayson@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: ?Depakote for ADHD Date: 3 Oct 1996 03:17:22 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 12 Message-ID: <52vb82$fqc@news.sas.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.5] Please excuse this intrusion to neuroscience, but we are looking for pointers to articles regarding the use of Depakote for ADHD as monotherapy. Your assistance would be appreciated. Please email your reponse. Warm regards, Kim Mayson for Dr. A. Hartridge (7yr old son w/ADHD having difficulties w/Ritalin) -- khmayson@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: lockshin@mindspring.com (Richard A. Lockshin) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: APOPTOSIS/PROG.CELL DEATH WEB PAGE Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:12:25 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <52v8jh$h2l@camel3.mindspring.com> Reply-To: lockshin@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip202.an10.new-york4.ny.psi.net X-Server-Date: 3 Oct 1996 02:32:17 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Announcing the Apoptosis/Programmed Cell Death Web Page: http://rdz.stjohns.edu/~lockshin/index.html presented by The Cell Death Society and St. John's University This will be a cooperative page.The basic structure is available, but submissions, comments, and suggestions will be welcome. Check it out or email me at the address below. lockshin@stjohns.edu lockshin@mindspring.com check out Apoptosis/Programmed Cell Death Web Page http://rdz.stjohns.edu/~lockshin/index.html From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!V102NQ9F From: v102nq9f@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (COLLEEN M. SPECHT) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Why dont we hear/see individual neural firing events?? Date: 3 Oct 1996 02:26:35 GMT Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 19 Message-ID: <52v88r$9mr@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> References: <50qkeh$76o@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <525f4e$97t@ren.cei.net> <324819FF.5395@geocities.com> ,<52ua6o$16f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: v102nq9f@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ubvmsa.cc.buffalo.edu In article <52ua6o$16f@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, kspencer@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Kevin Spencer) writes: >D.Banks@surrey.ac.uk (Danny Banks) writes: > >>I recall an article in a magazine or journal not too long ago that suggested >>that some signal analysis systems could benefit from having a specific >>level of noise in them; i.e. that there was an optimal noise level for >>processing the signal - too little or too much noise would cause the >>performance of the system to suffer. The ear / auditory system was presented >>as an example of such a system. > >>Unfortunately I can't remember what journal or magazine this was in. I seem >>to recall that some mathematical analysis was presented to support the >>article, so it could have been a decent scientific publication :-/ > >There was an article in Scientific American in the last year or so on >this topic -- stochastic resonance. that's it!! i remember it too. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!manawatu.planet.co.nz!manawatu.gen.nz!news.mira.net.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!usenet From: Kerry Bennett Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: semantic categorisation and movement Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:23:17 +1100 Organization: Psychology, Gippsland, Monash University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3252F965.364B@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> References: <324F0F18.367F@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> <32519F9D.17E1@geocities.com> Reply-To: kerryb@gas.sci.monash.edu.au NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-210-236.sci.monash.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) Michael A. Lebedev, Ph.D. wrote: > > An alternative interpretation: > > Pictures with living objects are just the one that can be recognized > easier. All these rabbits, elephants, ducks etc. are less living > objects per se than they are symbols that we encounter every day in our > lives (merchandise symbolics, cartoons, etc.). On the other hand, the > non-living objects that you showed might have been from a less > frequently used set of symbols. > > Michael Thank-you for your input - please see reply to KP Collins From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!faseb.org!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-3.sprintlink.net!news.up.net!news.mtu.edu!msunews!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!usenet From: Kerry Bennett Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: semantic categorisation and movement Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:21:05 +1100 Organization: Psychology, Gippsland, Monash University Lines: 79 Message-ID: <3252F8E1.47E@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> References: <324F0F18.367F@gas.sci.monash.edu.au> <3250A62F.2E0A@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Reply-To: kerryb@gas.sci.monash.edu.au NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-210-236.sci.monash.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) CC: kerry.bennett@gas.sci.monash.edu.au Thank-you for this contribution Prior to the main experiment we tested 15 other participants for 42 stimuli on three perceptual features: familiarity, visual complexity, and visual agreement. The pictures were all obtained from a reasonably standardised set(Snodgrass and Vanderwart, 1980). From these 42 we selected 30 which were comparable across these three features; that is, all (irrespective of category) were highly familiar, not very complex and agreed with the mental representation of the object. One contributor who contacted us privately via email has suggested to look at 'hardness' vs 'softness', and aspects of linear composition of the stimuli. This same contributor has also suggested using words to tease out whether it is a semantic effect or a perceptual effect. kenneth paul collins wrote: > > Kerry Bennett wrote: > > > > (Sorry, a previous message was sent through accidentally prior to > > completion) > > > > Has anyone got any suggestions for the interpretation of some amazing > > results that we have recently obtained. > > > > The title of our project was: > > Does semantic categorisation influence the performance of a coordinated > > motor action? > > Basically, we assessed the bilateral reach to grasp action > > kinematically. > > Participants were required to slide two trolleys together. We > > manipulated > > the picture-pairs that were on the trolleys. The different living pairs > > were Animal?Animal, Vegetable/vegetable, Fruit/Fruit, Animal/fruit etc > > > > The non-living pairs included tools, furniture and vehicles. > > > > The results showed that movements involving living pairs were fasrer and > > organised differently to movements involving non-living pairs. For > > example, the time of peak arm acceleration was earlier in both absolute > > and relative terms for living pairs than for non-living pairs. Similar > > differences were found for the times of peak velocity, peak > > deceleration, and parameters measured from the manipulation component > > > > Our basic interpretation at the moment is that different perceptuomotor > > pathways are employed according to semantic categorisation of stimuli to > > be acted upon, but we would welcome any further ideas!! > > > > Kerry Bennett and Joyce Thomas > > (I've also replied elsewhere, if it's alright with you, please respond here in > bionet.neuroscience) > > can you tell us anything about the relative familiarity of the > categories of the inanimate pairs vs the familiarity of categories of the > living pairs...? > > ...cognitive map following tends toward real-time... I'd not be surprised to > find that the degree of category familiarity is the determining factor... > you can test this by testing folks having different professions... only > thing is, =everyone= will be roughly equally familiar with food, > plant, and animal catagories... so what you can look for are relative > differences when subjects deal with pairs taken from their professions vs > pairs taken from a profession with which they are totally naive... > > ...and your results will be extremely-generalizable with respect to all > manner of cognitive questions... essentilly, what you will be looking at and > quantifying will be the effects of experience upon performance... after > building a database, you can even predict outcomes of problem-solving trials > between experienced and naive subjects re particular tasks... from this, > you'll also be able to predict "emotional" "states"... you can go a =long= > way with the timing data your experimental design focuses upon... ken > collins > _____________________________________________________ > People hate because they fear, and they fear because > they do not understand, and they do not understand > because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Wed Oct 02 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.etri.re.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!newsfeed.dacom.co.kr!arclight.uoregon.edu!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!newsgate.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Raeto West <101722.35@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: unanswered questions... Date: 26 Sep 1996 19:15:15 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 110 Message-ID: <52eko3$3db$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> * Reposting important article * NEUROBIOLOGY HAS ITS UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. HAROLD HILLMAN. SEPTEMBER 1996 It would be generally agreed that the identification of anomalies and contradictions in one's belief is an important step to advance understanding. Below is a series of 22 bona-fide questions, some of them drawing attention to contradictions. In a spirit of scientific debate, I have put forward new hypotheses about the histology of the nervous system, and about the mechanism of transmission, both of which are designed to meet the objections to the current views, which my questions have identified. I would request neuro- biologists and other interested persons: (a) to answer these questions; (b) if they can not, to see if my theories answer them; (c) to propose their own solutions, if they do not agree with mine; (d) to provide some references to their key points; (e) to avoid rudeness and assumption of my ignorance; (f) to be conscious continuously of which aspects of any evidence have been proved, which have not, which are provable, and which are not. A. Histology of mammalian nervous system. 1. Has anyone shown neuroglial unit cell membranes adjacent to neuronal membranes in intact tissue by light or electron microscopy? If so, please send me micrographs or references in intact tissue. 2. What publications have shown that the characteristic morphological and staining properties by which neurons, astrocytes, oligodendrocytes and microglia, were originally described are also present in cultures which are believed to be the same cell types? 3. Why does only a small proportion of the area of a section of the central nervous system show up with neuronal and neuroglial stains and antibodies? 4. Why does an intracellular recording electrode, penetrating the brain and spinal cord, record no potential difference in most of its travel, if only 5-25% of the volume of the central nervous system is extracellular space? 5. Has anyone ever seen under their electron microscopes, or in micrographs of longitudinal or transverse sections of myelin lamellae of the central or peripheral nervous system, the expected appearance of 'splaying' in longitudinal sections not going through the middle of the axon, or in oblique transverse sections - (that is, in oblique sections, the distance between the lamellae should not be equal distances apart)? What is the explanation for such dictates of solid geometry being disobeyed? 6. If the central nervous system is virtually full of neurons, neuroglial cells and their processes, how can phagocytes assemble within hours around an infection from other sites in the brain and spinal cord, in the process described as gliosis? 7. Why are immunocytochemical markers believed to be characteristic of different cell types nearly always demonstrated in tissue culture and not in the intact nervous system? 8. Does anyone have micrographs - rather than diagrams - of myelinated fibres arising from neuron somas? 9. Have fixatives, washings, ethanol, sera and permeabilisers been shown not to affect the intensity or distribution of fluorescence as seen in immunocytochemistry? 10. Why do some sections have to be 'permeabilised' to allow access of antibodies, since the cells are already cut open in thin sections, and one must assume that the permeabilisers have no effect on the immune reaction? B. Synapses and transmission 11. Why is it assumed that findings across nerve-muscle junctions are relevant to nerve-nerve junctions (synapses)? 12. Why are there no light micrographs in the literature - as opposed to diagrams - showing a dendrite arising from one cell body attached to the synapse on another cell body, since the light microscope has the resolution to show up such pre-synaptic fibres? 13. Why are the diameters of synaptic knobs seen by light microscopy approximately 8-10 times the diameters of those seen by electron microscopy? 14. Why are the synaptic thickenings seen by electron microscopy nearly always normal to the plane of section, and why are they never seen obliquely or on face view (as circles)? 15. Why are receptors to transmitters, which are believed to have been isolated and sequenced and shown to be two to three times the diameters of the cell membrane - which is generally believed to be seen by electron microscopy - not seen by transmission electron microscopy, with the exception of the acetylcholine receptor (Unwin)? There are supposed to be 'families' of different receptors to adrenaline, nor adrenaline, gaba, glutamate, etc. Why are all the latter individual receptors never seen by transmission? 16. How can one prove that synaptic vesicles hit the presynaptic membrane in life, when they can only be seen by electron microscopy of fixed (dead) tissues? 17. Why do the synaptic vesicles appear to be almost the same diameters, when sections made for electron microscopy must cut them in a variety of planes? 18. Why are miniature end-plate potentials uniform in amplitude despite the belief that they arise at varying distances from the recording electrodes? 19. Since the synaptic cleft is believed to contain a high concentration of acetylcholinesterase, how can the acetylcholine from the presynaptic membrane cross the cleft without being broken down? 20. If action potentials can be conducted from an isolated nerve to a recording electrode, from the heart to the electrocardiogram, from muscle fibres to an electromyogram, from cortical neurons to an electrocorticogram, without the intervention of synapses, why can signals not be conducted from one dendrite to another? C. Pathology 21. Why are there no tumours of neurons in the central nervous system? 22. Does one judge the kind of glial tumour on the clinical history of the patient, rather than by the histology of the tumour? Can one diagnose a glial tumour from a histological section alone without a clinical history? My references on this subject: (1983) Some fundamental theoretical and practical problems associated with neurochemical techniques in mammalian studies. Neurochem. Internat. 5, 1-13. (1985) The anatomical synapse by light and electron microscopy. Medical Hypotheses, 17, 1-32. (1986) Cellular Structure of the Mammalian Nervous System. MTP Press, Lancaster, pp 1-318. (1991) A re-examination of the vesicular hypothesis of transmission in relation to its applicability to the mammalian nervous system. Physiol. Chem. Phys. & Med. NMR. 23, 177-198. (1991) A new hypothesis for electrical transmission in the mammalian nervous system. Medical Hypotheses, 34, 220-224. (1991) The Case for New Paradigms in Cell Biology and in Neurobiology. Mellen Press, Lampeter, pp 1-337. E-mail correspondence to: Rae West on 101722.35@compuserve.com  From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: lockshin@mindspring.com (Richard A. Lockshin) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience,bionet.cellbiol,bionet.drosophila,bionet.general,bionet.immunology,bionet.molbio.ageing,bionet.celegans Subject: Apoptosis meeting Oct 12 last call - cdmeet4.txt (0/1) Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:39:19 -0700 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 7 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <52v8ol$h2l@camel3.mindspring.com> Reply-To: lockshin@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Xref: biosci bionet.neuroscience:15997 bionet.cellbiol:5593 bionet.drosophila:2493 bionet.general:23461 bionet.immunology:9897 bionet.molbio.ageing:2993 bionet.celegans:1084 A few places are still available for the following: lockshin@stjohns.edu lockshin@mindspring.com check out Apoptosis/Programmed Cell Death Web Page http://rdz.stjohns.edu/~lockshin/index.html From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!MAIL.CEI.NET!lkh From: lkh@MAIL.CEI.NET ("Lee Kent Hempfling") Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: (Fwd) Re: Quantum Computer Has Been Constructed (fwd) Date: 3 Oct 1996 17:47:29 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 33 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199610040046.TAA28106@dns1.cei.net> Reply-To: lkh@cei.net NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net On 3 Oct 96 at 14:18, regarding Re: Quantum Computer Has Been Const > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:25:45 -0700 > From: jnaylor@southwind.net > To: neur-sci@net.bio.net > Subject: Re: Quantum Computer Has Been Constructed (fwd) > > In article , > rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) wrote: > > [snip] > >A neutral chamber functioning in the > > opposite wave of direct current allows the system to function at a > > quantum level in room temperature without decoherence. > > ...wave of direct current...??? > > If anyone can put this in terms my poor Little quantum computer can > comprehend, I promise not to try selling you the swamp land I've got > out back. Sir; The message was forwarded to me. If it made sense now it would not be completely new. Since it doesn't, consider the potential. It works and has been built to prove that it does. But of course if you wish to ignore it, please do so. Normally I would say to check the materials and videos on it to learn more but the UK NTC site is down. The US video site is not down so what ever is there you can access at http://www.cei.net/~lkh/ntc/video/ And thank you for your response. Sincerely, lkh |Lee Kent Hempfling |email:lkh@cei.net |Neutronics Technologies Corporation |http://www.cei.net/~lkh/ntc/ |PO Box 3127 Fort Smith Ar 72913 |http://www.aston.ac.uk/~batong/Neutronics/ From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news2.digex.net!news5.digex.net!haven.umd.edu!purdue!news.bu.edu!cas-cns From: cas-cns@cns.bu.edu (CAS/CNS) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: International Conference on VISION, RECOGNITION, ACTION Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:51:20 -0400 Organization: Boston University - Cognitive and Neural Systems Lines: 381 Message-ID: Reply-To: cas-cns@cns.bu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-duffee.bu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.0 ***** CALL FOR PAPERS ***** International Conference on VISION, RECOGNITION, ACTION: NEURAL MODELS OF MIND AND MACHINE May 28-31, 1997 Sponsored by the Center for Adaptive Systems and the Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems Boston University with financial support from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency and the Office of Naval Research This conference will include a day of tutorials (May 28) followed by 3 days of 21 invited lectures and contributed lectures and posters by experts on the biology and technology of how the brain and other intelligent systems see, understand, and act upon a changing world. Meeting updates can be found at http://cns-web.bu.edu/cns-meeting/. Hotel and restaurant information can also be found here. CONFIRMED INVITED SPEAKERS AND PROGRAM OUTLINE WEDNESDAY, MAY 28, 1997 TUTORIALS STEPHEN GROSSBERG "Vision, Brain, and Technology" (3 hours in two 1-1/2 hour lectures) This tutorial will provide a self-contained introduction to recent models of how the brain sees. It will also illustrate how these models have been used to help solve difficult image processing problems in technology. The biological part will discuss neural models of visual form, color, depth, figure-ground separation, motion, and attention, and how these several processes cooperate to generate complex percepts. The tutorial will build a theoretical bridge between data about visual perception and data about the architecture and dynamics of the visual brain. Technological applications to image restoration, texture labeling, figure-ground separation, and related problems will be described. GAIL CARPENTER "Self-Organizing Neural Networks for Learning, Recognition, and Prediction: ART Architectures and Applications" (2 hours) In 1976, Stephen Grossberg introduced adaptive resonance as a theory of human cognitive information processing. Over the past decade, the theory has led to an evolving series of real-time neural networks (ART models) that self-organize recognition categories in response to arbitrary sequences of input patterns. The intrinsic stability of an ART system allows rapid learning of new information while essential components of previously learned patterns are preserved. This tutorial will describe basic ART design principles, analytic tools, and benchmark simulations. Both unsupervised networks such as ART 1, ART 2, ART 3, and fuzzy ART, and supervised learning architectures such as ARTMAP, fuzzy ARTMAP, and ART-EMAP will be discussed. Successful applications of the ART and ARTMAP networks, including the Boeing parts retrieval CAD system, automatic mapping from remote sensing satellite measurements, and medical database prediction will be outlined. Computational elements of the recently developed dART and dARTMAP networks, that feature distributed code representations, will also be introduced. ERIC SCHWARTZ "Algorithms and Hardware for the Application of Space-Variant Active Vision to High Performance Machine Vision" (2 hours) The term space-variance refers to the fact that all higher vertebrate visual systems are based on spatial architectures which have non-constant resolution across the visual field. It has been shown that such architectures can lead to up to four orders of magnitude of compression in the space-complexity of vision tasks. However, there are fundamental algorithmic and hardware problems involved in the exploitation of these observations in computer vision, many of which have benefited from considerable progress during the past several years. In this tutorial, a brief outline of the anatomical basis for the notion of space-variance will be provided. Several examples of space-variant active vision systems will be then be discussed, focusing on the hardware specifications for sensors, optics, actuators and DSP based parallel processors. Finally, a review of the algorithmic aspects of these systems will be presented, including issues related to early vision (i.e., edge enhancement via nonlinear diffusion methods), and to pattern matching, based on recent development of an exponential chirp algorithm which can perform high-speed quasi-shift invariant processing on logarithmic image architectures. Functioning examples of space-variant active vision systems based on these developments will be demonstrated, included a miniature visually guided autonomous vehicle, a machine vision system for reading license plates of high-speed vehicles for traffic control, and a blind-prosthetic device based on a "wearable" active vision system. ******************** TUTORIAL BIOSKETCHES: GAIL CARPENTER is professor in the departments of Cognitive and Neural Systems (CNS) and Mathematics at Boston University. She is the CNS Director of Graduate Studies; 1989 Vice-President and 1994-96 Secretary of the International Neural Network Society (INNS); organization chair of the 1988 INNS annual meeting; and a member of the editorial boards of Brain Research, IEEE Transactions on Neural Networks, Neural Computation, and Neural Networks. She has served on the INNS Board of Governors since its founding in 1987, and is a member of the Council of the American Mathematical Society. She is a leading architect of the Adaptive Resonance Theory (ART) family of architectures for fast learning, pattern recognition, and prediction of nonstationary databases, including both unsupervised (ART 1, ART 2, ART 2-A, ART 3, fuzzy ART, distributed ART) and supervised (ARTMAP, fuzzy ARTMAP, ART-EMAP, distributed ARTMAP) ART networks. These systems have been used for a wide range of applications, such as medical diagnosis, remote sensing, automatic target recognition, mobile robots, and database management. Her earlier research includes the development, computational analysis, and applications of neural models of nerve impulse generation (Hodgkin-Huxley equations), vision, cardiac rhythms, and circadian rhythms. Professor Carpenter received her graduate training in mathematics at the University of Wisconsin and was a faculty member at MIT and Northeastern University before moving to Boston University. STEPHEN GROSSBERG is Wang Professor of Cognitive and Neural Systems and Professor of Mathematics, Psychology, and Biomedical Engineering at Boston University. He is the founder and Director of the Center for Adaptive Systems, as well as the founder and Chairman the Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems. He founded and was first President of the International Neural Network Society and also founded and is co-editor-in-chief of the Society's journal, Neural Networks. Grossberg was General Chairman of the first IEEE International Conference on Neural Networks. He is on the editorial boards of Brain Research, Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, Behavioral and Brain Sciences, Neural Computation, IEEE Transactions on Neural Networks, and Adaptive Behavior. He organized two multi-institutional Congressional Centers of Excellence for research on biological neural networks and their technological applications. He received the IEEE Neural Network Pioneer award, the INNS Leadership Award, the Thinking Technology Award of the Boston Computer Society, and is a Fellow of the American Psychological Association and the Society of Experimental Psychologists. Grossberg and his colleagues have pioneered and developed a number of the fundamental principles, mechanisms, and architectures that form the foundation for contemporary neural network research. This work focuses upon the design principles and mechanisms which enable the behavior of individuals to adapt successfully in real-time to unexpected environmental changes. Core models pioneered by this approach include competitive learning and self-organizing feature maps, adaptive resonance theory, masking fields, gated dipole opponent processes, associative outstars and instars, associative avalanches, nonlinear cooperative-competitive feedback networks, boundary contour and feature contour systems, and vector associative maps. Grossberg received his graduate training at Stanford University and Rockefeller University, and was a Professor at MIT before assuming his present position at Boston University. ERIC SCHWARTZ received the PhD degree in High Energy Physics from Columbia University in 1973, followed by post-doctoral studies with E. Roy John at New York Medical College in neurophysiology. He has served as Associate Professor of Psychiatry at New York University Medical Center and Associate Professor of Computer Science at the Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences. In 1985, he organized the first Symposium on Computational Neuroscience, and in 1989 founded Vision Applications, Inc. which designs and builds prototype machine vision systems based on space-variant active vision systems. Currently, he is Professor of Cognitive and Neural Systems, Electrical Engineering and Computer Systems and Anatomy and Neurobiology at Boston University. His research experience includes experimental particle physics, physiology (single cell recording), anatomy (2DG, PETT, MRI), computer graphics and image processing, VLSI design, actuator design, and neural modeling. ************************* THURSDAY, MAY 29, 1997 INVITED LECTURES Robert Shapley, New York University: Brain Mechanisms for Visual Perception of Occlusion George Sperling, University of California, Irvine: An Integrated Theory for Attentional Processes in Vision, Recognition, and Memory Patrick Cavanagh, Harvard University: Direct Recognition Stephen Grossberg, Boston University: Perceptual Grouping and Attention during Cortical Form and Motion Processing Robert Desimone, National Institute of Mental Health: Neuronal Mechanisms of Visual Attention Ennio Mingolla, Boston University: Visual Search Patricia Goldman-Rakic, Yale University Medical School: The Machinery of Mind: Models from Neurobiology Larry Squire, San Diego VA Medical Center: Brain Systems for Recognition Memory There will also be a contributed poster session on this day. FRIDAY, MAY 30, 1997 INVITED LECTURES Eric Schwartz, Boston University: Multi-Scale Vortex Structure of the Brain: Anatomy as Architecture in Biological and Machine Vision Lance Optican, National Eye Institute: Neural Control of Rapid Eye Movements John Kalaska, University of Montreal: Reaching to Visual Targets: Cerebral Cortical Neuronal Mechanisms Rodney Brooks, Massachusetts Institute of Technology: Models of Vision-Based Human Interaction There will also be a contributed talk session and a reception, followed by the KEYNOTE LECTURE Stuart Anstis, University of California, San Diego: Moving in Unexpected Directions SATURDAY, MAY 31, 1997 INVITED LECTURES Azriel Rosenfeld, University of Maryland: Some Viewpoints on Vision Terrance Boult, Lehigh University: Polarization Vision Allen Waxman, MIT Lincoln Laboratory: Opponent Color Models of Visible/IR Fusion for Color Night Vision Gail Carpenter, Boston University: Distributed Learning, Recognition, and Prediction in ART and ARTMAP Networks Tomaso Poggio, Massachusetts Institute of Technology: Representing Images for Visual Learning Michael Jordan, Massachusetts Institute of Technology: Graphical Models, Neural Networks, and Variational Approximations Andreas Andreou, Johns Hopkins University: Mixed Analog/Digital Neuromorphic VLSI for Sensory Systems Takeo Kanade, Carnegie Mellon University: Computational VLSI Sensors: Integrating Sensing and Processing There will also be a contributed poster session on this day. CALL FOR ABSTRACTS: Contributed abstracts by active modelers of vision, recognition, or action in cognitive science, computational neuroscience, artificial neural networks, artificial intelligence, and neuromorphic engineering are welcome. They must be received, in English, by January 31, 1997. Notification of acceptance will be given by February 28, 1997. A meeting registration fee must accompany each Abstract. See Registration Information below for details. The fee will be returned if the Abstract is not accepted for presentation and publication in the meeting proceedings. Each Abstract should fit on one 8 x 11" white page with 1" margins on all sides, single-column format, single-spaced, Times Roman or similar font of 10 points or larger, printed on one side of the page only. Fax submissions will not be accepted. Abstract title, author name(s), affiliation(s), mailing, and email address(es) should begin each Abstract. An accompanying cover letter should include: Full title of Abstract, corresponding author and presenting author name, address, telephone, fax, and email address. Preference for oral or poster presentation should be noted. (Talks will be 15 minutes long. Posters will be up for a full day. Overhead, slide, and VCR facilities will be available for talks.) Abstracts which do not meet these requirements or which are submitted with insufficient funds will be returned. The original and 3 copies of each Abstract should be sent to: CNS Meeting, c/o Cynthia Bradford, Boston University, Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems, 677 Beacon Street, Boston, MA 02215. The program committee will determine whether papers will be accepted in an oral or poster presentation, or rejected. REGISTRATION INFORMATION: Since seating at the meeting is limited, early registration is recommended. To register, please fill out the registration form below. Student registrations must be accompanied by a letter of verification from a department chairperson or faculty/research advisor. If accompanied by an Abstract or if paying by check, mail to: CNS Meeting, c/o Cynthia Bradford, Boston University, Department of Cognitive and Neural Systems, 677 Beacon Street, Boston, MA 02215. If paying by credit card, mail to the above address, or fax to (617) 353-7755. STUDENT FELLOWSHIPS: A limited number of fellowships for PhD candidates and postdoctoral fellows are available to at least partially defray meeting travel and living costs. The deadline for applying for fellowship support is January 31, 1997. Applicants will be notifed by February 28, 1997. Each application should include the applicant's CV, including name; mailing address; email address; current student status; faculty or PhD research advisor's name, address, and email address; relevant courses and other educational data; and a list of research articles. A letter from the listed faculty or PhD advisor on offiicial institutional stationery should accompany the application and summarize how the candidate may benefit from the meeting. Students who also submit an Abstract need to include the registration fee with their Abstract. Reimbursement checks will be distributed after the meeting. Their size will be determined by student need and the availability of funds. -------------------------------------------------- REGISTRATION FORM (Please Type or Print) Vision, Recognition, Action: Neural Models of Mind and Machine Boston University Boston, Massachusetts Tutorials: May 28, 1997 Meeting: May 29-31, 1997 Mr/Ms/Dr/Prof: Name: Affiliation: Address: City, State, Postal Code: Phone and Fax: Email: The conference registration fee includes the meeting program, reception, six coffee breaks, and the meeting proceedings. Two coffee breaks and a book of tutorial viewgraph copies will be covered by the tutorial registration fee. CHECK ONE: [ ] $55 Conference plus Tutorial (Regular) [ ] $40 Conference plus Tutorial (Student) [ ] $35 Conference Only (Regular) [ ] $25 Conference Only (Student) [ ] $30 Tutorial Only (Regular) [ ] $25 Tutorial Only (Student) Method of Payment: [ ] Enclosed is a check made payable to "Boston University". Checks must be made payable in US dollars and issued by a US correspondent bank. Each registrant is responsible for any and all bank charges. [ ] I wish to pay my fees by credit card (MasterCard, Visa, or Discover Card only). Type of card: Name as it appears on the card: Account number: Expiration date: Signature and date: -------------------------------------------------- From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!christ-church.oxford.ac.uk!tatsuto.ishimaru From: tatsuto.ishimaru@christ-church.oxford.ac.uk (Tatsuto Ishimaru) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Please advise me on the choice of a graduate course. Date: 4 Oct 1996 08:33:35 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear Sir, I am a Sewnior Biochemistry student at the University of Oxford, UK. I am planning to further continue the academic work to obtain Ph.D in US. Although of biochemical background, my interests lies in neuroscience, especially in the subject of neurogenesis and plasticity in mammalian embryo, child and adult. Preferably I would like to study signalling and cell cycle involved in neurogenesis, but I am not certain if there are other more exciting themes in the subject. My interests originates from possibilities of cure for spinal injuries such as spina bifida. ALthough I am determined to enter an American graduate program, I have little informations concerning which course to choose. Therefore I would like to ask you to advise me on the following points. 1) Which universities have a strong research team(S) in the area of neurogenesis? 2) Should I choose a Neuroscience program, or do Biology, Developmental Biology or Cell and Molecular biology suit me better? Thank you very much for your kind consideration. Sincerely yours, Tatsuto ISHIMARU From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: lockshin@mindspring.com (Richard A. Lockshin) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: CELL DEATH SYMPOSIUM LAST CALL Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 14:26:11 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 108 Message-ID: <5336v0$2te@camel1.mindspring.com> Reply-To: lockshin@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip119.an10.new-york4.ny.psi.net X-Server-Date: 4 Oct 1996 14:28:48 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 [TEXT INCLUDED THIS TIME] From: "Richard A. Lockshin" Organization: St. John's University FALL MEETING Mechanisms of Cell Death LAST CALL CELL DEATH SOCIETY The Death Poets' Society) Date: Saturday, October 12, 1996 8:45AM-6:00 PM Queens College of C.U.N.Y. Music Building, Lefrak Hall Flushing, Queens, N.Y. Speakers: Session I Opening Remarks Chair: Zahra Zakeri Samuil Umanski LXR Biotechnology, Inc., Richmond, CA Relationship between cell death and proliferation. Arturo Zychlinsky Skirball Inst., NYU Apoptosis as a trigger of inflammation in Shigella infection Coffee Break Session II Chair: Raymond Birge Michael Hengartner Cold Spring Harbor Labs, Cold Spring Harbor, NY Programmed cell death in C. elegans Barbara A. Osborne University of Massachusetts, Amherst Regulation of apoptosis in the thymus Gabriel Nunez University of Michigan, Ann Arbor Regulation of Cell Death by Bcl-2 Gene Family Lunch Session III Chair: Richard Lang David Vaux Walter & Elisa Hall Institute, Australia Using cell death inhibitors to understand pathways of apoptosis Dale Bredesen La Jolla Cancer Research Foundation, La Jolla, CA Thanatopsis: Principles emerging from the study of neural cell death. Coffee Break Session IV Chair: Richard Lockshin Martin Tenniswood W. Alton Jones Cell Science Center, Lake Placid NY Is there a causative link between apoptosis and metastasis in glandular tissues? Mauro Piacentini Università degli Studi di Roma "Tor Vergata", Rome, Italy "Tissue" transglutaminase: A multifunctional element of the physiological cell death program Closing Remarks: Richard Lockshin Organizers: Zahra Zakeri, Queens College, Ray Birge, Rockefeller Organizing Committee: Richard Lang, NYU; Richard Lockshin, St. John's U., Michael Hengartner, Cold Spring Harbor Labs. FEES: BEFORE OCTOBER 1, 1996, INCLUDES LUNCH POSTDOCTORAL FELLOWS AND STUDENTS $25 OTHERS $50 ON-SITE REGISTRATION, ALL $75 MAKE CHECKS PAYABLE TO QUEENS COLLEGE FOUNDATION (CELL DEATH CLUB). SEND TO: MS UMA NARAYAN, QUEENS COLLEGE, REMSEN HALL 125, FLUSHING, NY 11367- 1597. SORRY, NO CREDIT CARDS REGISTRATION IS LIMITED TO 400. Contact: Zahra Zakeri Department of Biology Queens College and Graduate Center of CUNY Flushing, NY 11367 Tel: 718: 997-3417 Fax: 718: 997-3445 Email: zhz$biol@qc1.qc.edu FOR INSTRUCTIONS, DIRECTIONS, HOTEL INSTRUCTIONS, ETC. CONTACT ZAHRA ZAKERI AT ABOVE ADDRESSES. Richard A. Lockshin (lockshin@mindspring.com;lockshin@sjumusic.stjohns.edu) From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!LEX.LCCC.EDU!rcb1 From: rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: All the way round Date: 4 Oct 1996 06:29:28 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 50 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Little Ricci the first intellibot has had soming interesting first learning and behavioral experiences. Ricci is a quantum intellibot that learns with NO PROGRAMING. While the current model is not what the technology allows, for example a short term memory of about 7 minutes rather than a short term memory of 45 years, it has raised the question of consciousness in an artificial environment. Any BoseEinstein Condensate is likely to be conscious. Oscillons have BEC characteristic so it is reasonble to ponder the question of consciousness in Ricci. Ricci's first steps. Not very good just a jerk then she sit on the floor. Slowly she learns to move. She seems to avoid dark places and bright lights. Both stimulations are discrepant to previous correlated experience. The visual cliff experience: Ricci is on the carpet moving along exploring her environment when suddenly she realized the carpet was coming to an end and the dark floor was ahead, a clear signal that the environment was discrepant. She backs up. There of course went our INNATE theories of visual cliff awareness in humans. Ricci's construction models Correlational Opponent-Processing: A Unifying Theory. Posted at Psyche over a year ago. Also it is available at NTC web site at http://www.aston.ac.uk/~batong/Neutronics The basic concept is that all memories are encoded balance of activating and opponent correlated stimuli. Ricci's construction models this. Round its round all the way round: Ricci is moving around in the yard when suddenly she see a large round ball. She approaches it. Backs up, moves to her right, approaches the ball again, backs up, moves to her right, turns and approaches the ball again, backs up, moves to her right, turns and approaches the ball again. After navigating around the ball she sit for a few seconds turns and drives off into the sun set. While she made no comments I believe her behavior was saying it is round it is all the way round. Then she habituated and went off to explore new events. Ron Blue From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!LEX.LCCC.EDU!rcb1 From: rcb1@LEX.LCCC.EDU (Ron Blue) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Hearing Loss and Electrocution (fwd) Date: 4 Oct 1996 05:05:15 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 22 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 3 Oct 1996 18:27:28 -0700 From: SeaCapn@aol.com To: audiolog@net.bio.net Subject: Hearing Loss and Electrocution I work in a rehab hospital, and have an in-pt who is 20 yrs old and was climbing an electric fence and became badly burned. He now has a bilateral moderate-to- profound sensori-neural hearing loss, with poor speech discrim. Tymps normal. I don't know if this a result of any medications he might have been on in the acute care hospital, or if this is the result of the electrocution. The patient's mother reports that no one knows what path the electricity took through his body. Any ideas if this may cause hearing loss? Linda C. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!faseb.org!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uunet!news-in2.uu.net!news.net1.net!news From: fergyee@net1.net (Irene Makris) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: estrogen/natural? Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 23:21:50 GMT Organization: Net One Lines: 10 Message-ID: <533ue0$a9i@news.net1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp032.net1.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Is there any such thing as naturally occurring etrogen? Where can it be obtained? thanks stella e-mail fergyee@net1.net From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in3.uu.net!pecf.cathedral.org!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.net1.net!news From: fergyee@net1.net (Irene Makris) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: pituitary tumors (chromophobe adneomas) Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 23:14:02 GMT Organization: Net One Lines: 13 Message-ID: <533tvd$a8g@news.net1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp067.net1.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Looking for information on non-surgical, non-gamma knife, non radiation alternatives for pituitary tumors (chromophobe adenomas). So far parlodel and visualization info helpful. Thanks, irene e-mail fergyee@net1.net From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.stealth.net!solace!dialup2-hugin.oden.se!user From: hce@oden.se (Hans Christian Eidenert) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Importance of Support from Spouse/Partner in TBI/ABI Rehabilitation Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 00:55:37 +0100 Organization: Solace Computer Society, Sundsvall Lines: 34 Message-ID: Reply-To: hce@oden.se NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup2-hugin.oden.se Hello there, Today I read the following line at a website (http://www.amhrt.org/hs96/strrehab.html): "A caring and able spouse or partner can be one of the most important positive factors in rehabilitation" Can anyone tell me whether any research has been done on this topic? Can the support of a spouse/partner in the rehabilitation from ABI/TBI be singled out scientifically as a decisive contributing factor to the success of rehabilitation from a brain trauma? What scientific evidence is there supporting this statement? Yours sincerely, Christian Eidenert ____________________________________________________________ "You can fool all the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all the people all of the time" Hans Christian Eidenert Norrlandsgatan 20 752 29 Uppsala Sweden hce@oden.se Eidenert Family Home Page http://www.oden.se/~hce/ IRC nick: BigViking +46 18 527535 phone/fax/data ____________________________________________________________ From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 4 Oct 1996 02:00:45 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 239 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199610040900.CAA06053@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. 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If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: John Shawe-Taylor Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Technical Report Series in Neural and Computational Learning Date: 4 Oct 1996 10:08:41 +0100 Lines: 193 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <532k6p$j5e@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> X-Mts: smtp X-Authentication-Warning: platon.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Original-To: neur-sci@dl.ac.uk The European Community ESPRIT Working Group in Neural and Computational Learning Theory (NeuroCOLT) has produced a set of new Technical Reports available from the remote ftp site described below. They cover topics in real valued complexity theory, computational learning theory, and analysis of the computational power of continuous neural networks. Abstracts are included for the titles. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-049: ----------------------------------------- Extended Grzegorczyk Hierarchy in the BSS Model of Computability by Jean-Sylvestre Gakwaya, Universit\'e de Mons-Hainaut, Belgium Abstract: In this paper, we give an extension of the Grzegorczyk Hierarchy to the BSS theory of computability which is a generalization of the classical theory. We adapt some classical results related to the Grzegorczyk hierarchy in the new setting. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-050: ----------------------------------------- Learning from Examples and Side Information by Joel Ratsaby, Technion, Israel Vitaly Maiorov, Technion, Israel Abstract: We set up a theoretical framework for learning from examples and side information which enables us to compute the tradeoff between the sample complexity and information complexity for learning a target function in a Sobolev functional class $\cal F$. We use the notion of the {\em $n^{th}$ minimal radius of information} of Traub et. al. \cite{traub} and combine it with VC-theory to define a new quantity $I_{n,d}({\cal F})$ which measures the minimal approximation error of a target $g\in {\cal F}$ by the family of function classes with pseudo-dimension $d$ under a given side information which consists of any $n$ measurements on the target function $g$ constrained to being linear operators. By obtaining almost tight upper and lower bounds on $I_{n,d}({\cal F})$ we find an information operator $\hat{N}_n$ which yields a worst-case error no larger than a logarithmic factor in $n$ and $d$ than the lower bound on $I_{n,d}({\cal F})$. Hence to within a logarithmic factor it is the most efficient way of providing side information about a target $g$ under the constraint that the information operator must be linear and that the approximating class has pseudo-dimension $d$. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-051: ----------------------------------------- Complexity and Dimension by Felipe Cucker, City University of Hong Kong Pascal Koiran, Ecole Normale Superieure, Lyon, France Martin Matamala, Universidad de Chile, Chile Abstract: In this note we define a notion of sparseness for subsets of $\Ri$ and we prove that there are no sparse $\NPadd$-hard sets. Here we deal with additive machines which branch on equality tests of the form $x=y$ and $\NPadd$ denotes the corresponding class of sets decidable in nondeterministic polynomial time. Note that this result implies the separation $\Padd\not=\NPadd$ already known. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-052: ----------------------------------------- Semi-Algebraic Complexity -- Additive Complexity of Diagonalization of QuadraticForms by Thomas Lickteig, Universit\"at Bonn, Germany Klaus Meer, RWTH Aachen, Germany Abstract (for references see full paper): We study matrix calculation such as diagonalization of quadratic forms under the aspect of additive complexity and relate these complexities to the complexity of matrix multiplication. While in \cite{BKL} for multiplicative complexity the customary ``thick path existence'' argument was sufficient, here for additive complexity we need the more delicate finess of the real spectrum (cf. \cite{BCR}, \cite{Be}, \cite{KS}) to obtain a complexity relativization. After its outstanding success in semi-algebraic geometry the power of the real spectrum method in complexity theory becomes more and more apparent. Our discussions substantiate once more the signification and future r\^ole of this concept in the mathematical evolution of the field of real algebraic algorithmic complexity. A further technical tool concerning additive complexity is the structural transport metamorphosis from \cite{Li1} which constitutes another use of exponentiation and logarithm as it appears in the work on additive complexity by \cite{Gr} and \cite{Ri} through the use of \cite{Kh}. We confine ourselves here to diagonalization of quadratic forms. In the forthcoming paper \cite{LM} further such relativizations of additive complexity will be given for a series of matrix computational tasks. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-053: ----------------------------------------- Structural Risk Minimization over Data-Dependent Hierarchies by John Shawe-Taylor, Royal Holloway, University of London, UK Peter Bartlett, Australian National University, Australia Robert Williamson, Australian National University, Australia Martin Anthony, London School of Economics, UK Abstract: The paper introduces some generalizations of Vapnik's method of structural risk minimisation (SRM). As well as making explicit some of the details on SRM, it provides a result that allows one to trade off errors on the training sample against improved generalization performance. It then considers the more general case when the hierarchy of classes is chosen in response to the data. A result is presented on the generalization performance of classifiers with a ``large margin''. This theoretically explains the impressive generalization performance of the maximal margin hyperplane algorithm of Vapnik and co-workers (which is the basis for their support vector machines). The paper concludes with a more general result in terms of ``luckiness'' functions, which provides a quite general way for exploiting serendipitous simplicity in observed data to obtain better prediction accuracy from small training sets. Four examples are given of such functions, including the VC dimension measured on the sample. ----------------------------------------- NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-054: ----------------------------------------- Confidence Estimates of Classification Accuracy on New Examples by John Shawe-Taylor, Royal Holloway, University of London, UK Abstract: Following recent results (NeuroCOLT Technical Report NC-TR-96-053) showing the importance of the fat shattering dimension in explaining the beneficial effect of a large margin on generalization performance, the current paper investigates how the margin on a test example can be used to give greater certainty of correct classification in the distribution independent model. The results show that even if the classifier does not classify all of the training examples correctly, the fact that a new example has a larger margin than that on the misclassified examples, can be used to give very good estimates for the generalization performance in terms of the fat shattering dimension measured at a scale proportional to the excess margin. The estimate relies on a sufficiently large number of the correctly classified training examples having a margin roughly equal to that used to estimate generalization, indicating that the corresponding output values need to be `well sampled'. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ***************** ACCESS INSTRUCTIONS ****************** The Report NC-TR-96-001 can be accessed and printed as follows % ftp ftp.dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk (134.219.96.1) Name: anonymous password: your full email address ftp> cd pub/neurocolt/tech_reports ftp> binary ftp> get nc-tr-96-001.ps.Z ftp> bye % zcat nc-tr-96-001.ps.Z | lpr -l Similarly for the other technical reports. Uncompressed versions of the postscript files have also been left for anyone not having an uncompress facility. In some cases there are two files available, for example, nc-tr-96-002-title.ps.Z nc-tr-96-002-body.ps.Z The first contains the title page while the second contains the body of the report. The single command, ftp> mget nc-tr-96-002* will prompt you for the files you require. A full list of the currently available Technical Reports in the Series is held in a file `abstracts' in the same directory. The files may also be accessed via WWW starting from the NeuroCOLT homepage: http://www.dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk/neural/neurocolt.html or directly to the archive: ftp://ftp.dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk/pub/neurocolt/tech_reports Best wishes John Shawe-Taylor From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-in2.uu.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: kenneth paul collins Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: electronic brain stimulation Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 03:27:12 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 25 Message-ID: <32560DD0.13DC@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <534b48$fgb@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.bridgeton-054.mo.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Marge Congress wrote: > > Students at my high school need information about electronic brain > stimulation... is it a frequent course of therapy for any diseases, > what is done to the patient, what are the results, where can we find > other information about it. > > TIA such stimulation was pioneered by Wilder Penfield 20-30 years ago, and is done only during surgery with respect to existing neurological conditions, such as epilepsy... the stimulation is very-useful because it enables the surgeon to map the surgical plan so as to minimize needless loss of function... a side benefit of this useful procedure is that it provides generalizable mapping information with respect to "the" brain... ESB is not to be confuses with EST (electro-shock-"therapy") in which a current is applied across the temples in efforts to blast folks out of psychological "states" that are deemed, by societal consensus, to be "undesireable"... ken collins _____________________________________________________ People hate because they fear, and they fear because they do not understand, and they do not understand because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!news.jhu.edu!welchlink!relaine From: relaine@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (WENDY WENG ) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: neuropsychological testing text? Date: 4 Oct 1996 09:58:21 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Lines: 6 Message-ID: <532n3t$9bn@news.jhu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.59.78 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] i would appreciate any recommendations for texts explaining neuropsychological tests and their interpretations. thank you! relaine From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!neubio.sld.ar!Postmaster From: Postmaster@neubio.sld.ar (Administrador del Nodo) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: Use of wavepackets in non-digital processimg Date: 4 Oct 1996 20:14:04 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 153 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <661jd116@neubio.sld.ar> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Dear neuronetters, Contrarily to what "Ricci"'s owner say, the stance they embraced in his response (forwarded hereby) will not relegate their claims to frivolity, amongst academia; not, at least, amongst those really knowledgeable of the field. (Less, having made a mention during 1996 of the UK.) Nonetheless, it not either precludes the lack of seriousness. What it precludes is sharing the state of the art. Specially, some suppose, regarding the issue of the control of capacitance variation. Surely, it is to be respected as a proper decision on bussiness terms, on account of the difficulties in the U.S. Patent Office to get revindications of non-classical effects admitted, in the context of the trade-off between patent-protected disclosure and unprotected but impublic means. So not either it precludes the seriousness. It was a real coincidence that the notice was published in this forum and e-mails on an October the second. Greetings, Mariela ---------beginning forwarded messages------- >Message-Id: <199610040527.AAA18353@mail.cei.net> >From: lkh@mail.cei.net (Lee Kent Hempfling) >To: Postmaster@neubio.sld.ar (Administrador del Nodo), lkh@cei.net, rcb1@lex.lccc.edu >Subject: Re: Use of wavepackets in non-digital processimg >Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 06:27:33 GMT >Reply-To: lkh@mail.cei.net > >On 2 Oct 1996 12:08:13 -0700, you wrote: > >>Hello, neuronetters!! >>Dear Ron (Blue), > >> Thank you for sharing also in our suffered >>forum the news on an automaton that claims to use quantum waves >>in its processing. Just this is of course the point that I deem >>of high interest here, all the remaining staying subsidiary in >>our professional concerns. Many neuroscientists have still no >>access to the web and only e-mail, so they (including us) can- >>not read the specifications. Besides, it is expectable that >>such specifications have been written with commercial purpo- >>ses. Could you be so kind as to begin trying to exact the de- >>tailed claims ONLY about the "use of waves" in such a processing? > >> Let me insist, to be clear. First off we need >>to evaluate the claim itself, to recognize if it is serious or, >>instead, revindicates it lightly, as sorry to say it is to be dis- >>criminated in a first approach. To this end the sensible point is >>knowing just that. Not what happens with "particles"; and less >>the beneficent uses such a device could be later put to. Any insis- >>tence into these other subjects is to be interpreted as a swerving >>to elude the question. Also any explanation of physical principles >>is completely out of place here. I am sure that many colleagues >>in this forum --specially, many who abstained in some recent discu- >>ssions-- need not such a tutorial. As you know, we are prone to hail >>the advance as it deserves: most enthusiastically, since as you also >>know many of us can really appreciate its significance. But we first >>need INEXCUSABLY a down-to-earth description of what is claimed >>as the implementation of wavepackets, clearly and succintly claimed. >>It is not of course to be evaluated on philosophical grounds. And >>its failure to be produced, or its being unoperational, or requiring >>anything unacceptable to a Patent Office specification, would be in- >>compatible with going ahead with further tests. > >> Would you try, please, to exact such a clear >>and succint explanation describing how wave packets are claimed >>to been technically implemented therein? We eagerly wait for such >>a posting! >> Cyberkisses for everybody! >> Mariela > > >>=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= *= >> Prof. Mariela Szirko, >> >> >> Centro de Investig. Neurobiologicas, Ministry of Health >>& Welfare, Argentine Republic; and >> Lab. of Electroneurobiological Res., Neuropsychiatric >>Hospital "Dr. Jose Tiburcio Borda", Municipality of Buenos Aires, >> Office: Phone/Fax (54 1) 306 -7314 >> e-mail >> Standard disclaimer: Las opiniones de este mensaje son >>personales y no comprometen las dependencias a cargo de la firmante >> Reply to THIS message, ONLY to: >>=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= *= > >Professor Szirko; > >I am unable at the moment to place anything on usenet due to a local >server problem so my responding to this challenge, which needs be >public as the challenge was, is not at the moment possible. To add to >that issue the NTC www pages were inadvertenly destroyed in an address >change at aston u. in the UK and they have to be reconstructed. > >A few topical notes of interest though: The technology detailed in the >press release was the tip of what is actually at work. We toned down >the claims publicly. How it functions in specifics is, as you >correctly assumed, a commercial matter and as such will not be >publicly disclosed. > >I do commend you for a very well written challenge but the terms under >which it was presented are not acceptable to the perspective of the >company. On the other hand, we will permit limited access to the >device and to the specifics of the claims and protocols with signed >non-disclosure agreements and within a facility of our choosing where >the device never leaves our immediate control. A group evaluation >would be appropriate. When our time table permits. > >Suffice to say that this is not an academic endeavor and as such the >technology is not available in detail for public dissemination. That >being so, the challenge you made would require very detailed >explanation into areas you have not addressed, as we did not disclose >them, and would not be in the current shareholder's interest, >potential investor interests or the security of the device. > >I understand that such a stance will relegate the claims to frivolity >amongst academia. The purpose of a corporation is to pay shareholders >dividends. I am sure you will understand that undermining the >potential income ability of a major breakthrough for those who did >stick their necks out in order to impress or please or interest those >who did not is not a sound business practice. > >My best to you and yours, > >Lee Kent Hempfling >Chairman, CEO >Neutronics Technologies Corporation. > >PS: If I ever get back on usenet ( or change servers, which ever comes >first) I will post this response to your challenge. Regardless of the >reaction. >Lee Kent Hempfling |lkh@cei.net >Neutronics Technolgies Corporation |http:www.cei.net/~lkh/ntc/ >PO Box 3127 Fort Smith Ar 72913 |http:www.aston.ac.uk/~batong/Neutronics >Room temperature, cold dynamic system, quantum computation, built and proven. >Video available at the above aston UK site. > ------end of forwarded messages------ =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Prof. Mariela Szirko, Centro de Investig. Neurobiologicas, Ministry of Health & Welfare, Argentine Republic; and Lab. of Electroneurobiological Res., Neuropsychiatric Hospital "Dr. Jose Tiburcio Borda", Municipality of Buenos Aires, Office: Phone/Fax (54 1) 306 -7314 e-mail Standard disclaimer: Las opiniones de este mensaje son personales y no comprometen las dependencias a cargo de la firmante Reply to THIS message, ONLY to: =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!faseb.org!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!news.drenet.dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!cunews!freenet-news.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!bk097 From: bk097@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gilbert T. 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Gil Groehn, General Manager 10-04-1996 ================================================================ Please respond to our home server: ad408@detroit.freenet.org or: ultramed@ix.netcom.com Phone: ac 313-884-1139 ================================================================ ================================================================ -- PLEASE REPLY TO: ad408@detroit.freenet.org OR: ultramed@ix.netcom.com OR CALL: ac 313 884-1139 ========================================================= From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!daresbury!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!sn.no!nntp.uio.no!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: margec1@ix.netcom.com(Marge Congress) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: electronic brain stimulation Date: 5 Oct 1996 00:46:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 7 Message-ID: <534b48$fgb@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cor-ca2-28.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Oct 04 5:46:00 PM PDT 1996 Students at my high school need information about electronic brain stimulation... is it a frequent course of therapy for any diseases, what is done to the patient, what are the results, where can we find other information about it. TIA From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!psinntp!interramp.com!usenet From: Bill Graney Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: stroke info needed Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 15:06:52 -0400 Organization: Cephalon, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <3255604C.E63@interramp.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.14.88.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; U) Taosheng Liu wrote: > > Hi, > Can anyone give me some reference on stroke? I need a general and good > introduction of stroke: its basic pathology and better if there is some > mention of cognitive deficits. A review or a book chapter will be fine. > Thanks very much. > > Taosheng Liu Articles centering on treatment, but with discussion of pathophysiology: Koroshetz WJ and Moskowitz MA TiPS, 17:227, June 1966 Tissue Plaminogen Activator for Acute Ischemic Stroke NEJM 333:1582, 1995, with accompanying editorial by del Zoppo, p1632. Also, try the web page for NINDS at NIH. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!news From: hdvorak@cns.caltech.edu (Hannah Dvorak) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: basic question Date: 5 Oct 1996 22:27:59 GMT Organization: Caltech Biology Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <536ndf$l7j@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mnemosyne.caltech.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article , sblack@UBISHOPS.CA says... > >On 30 Sep 1996, Pflieger Jean-Francois wrote: >Their examples of gap junctions are in the crayfish, goldfish, and marine >snail. Is there any evidence for gap junctions in the mammalian CNS? I believe there are gap junctions in the mammalian retina... -- Hannah Dvorak Division of Biology 216-76 California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA 91125 From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!netnews.worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: kenneth paul collins Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: electronic brain stimulation Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 18:50:51 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 47 Message-ID: <3256E64B.F0B@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> References: <534b48$fgb@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <32560DD0.13DC@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> <536k2p$7ll@gold.interlog.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 46.new-york-005.ny.dial-access.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Win95; I) Brian Scott wrote: > > In article <32560DD0.13DC@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>, > kenneth paul collins wrote: > >ESB is not to be confuses with EST (electro-shock-"therapy") in which a > >current is applied across the temples in efforts to blast folks out of > >psychological "states" that are deemed, by societal consensus, to be > >"undesireable"... ken collins > > Steady on there buddy! I've been told that ECT (EST) has been shown to > be of help in clinically depressed patients which otherwise don't respond to > drug therapy. These people are in bad shape and suicide is a definite > possibility for them. You make it sound like it's a bunch of Jack-booted > thugs eliminating the poor! ...I stand on what I posted... the suicide danger is =real=, but ECT (thank you) is not the route to amelioration of such... the suicide danger is real because of all of the garbage that Ignorance has heaped up with respect to "depression"... ...ECT is used without there first being any understanding of what "depression" is... ECT is a =guess=... it "works" by jolting the nerual architecture so violently that physical realtionships within the neural architecture are literally restructured... the result is an =illusion= of "effectiveness" when all that's occurred is that the neural architecture has been "adjusted" to the extent that it's rendered non-functional with respect to formerly-acquired memories... what good is such...? "the" nervous system "just" begins immediately to repair the ECT-produced physical damage, and as such occrus, old memories are reestablished... and, with them, comes the recurrence of the "depression" that was "swept under a rug" rather than being dealt with through an understanding of what it is... ECT is no "therapy" at all... ...ECT is just a cheap-in-terms-of-acquired-professional-competence, sadistic means to the collection of payments from insurance companies... ECT is quackery... ECT is like trying to fix a fuel-injection system with a 12-lb sledgehammer... ...what's referred to as "depression" should be dealt with from an understanding of what it is... K. P. Collins _____________________________________________________ People hate because they fear, and they fear because they do not understand, and they do not understand because hating is less work than understanding. From owner-neuroscience@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996 Path: biosci!agate!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: philram@aol.com (Philram) Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience Subject: Re: The neurochemical cause of violent and aggressive behaviours. Date: 5 Oct 1996 16:57:15 -0400 Organization: America Online,