From owner-p450@net.bio.net Sun Jul 12 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator) Newsgroups: bionet.molecules.p450 Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 13 Jul 1998 02:00:12 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 233 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199807130900.CAA01245@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. We unfortunately do not have the staff to do Internet information searches or answer scientific questions. Please post those to the appropriate BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. Contents: -------- 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. 0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!! ------------------------------ BIOSCI's government funding has been expended, and we are now operating solely from advertising revenue that we have raised from our Web site at http://www.bio.net/. We need just a few minutes of your time to help us serve you. You can do two important things which will take very little time for you individually and will immensely help us continue to help you. First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the archives. You can post or reply to messages via your Web browser as described in item #1 below. Your usage helps attract sponsors. If you contact any of our sponsors, please be sure to thank them for supporting BIOSCI. It is critical for them to get this feedback if they are to continue their sponsorship for the long term. Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides products or services of interest to the biology community, please pass this message on to your marketing or marketing communications department or other appropriate group. Please ask them to help support BIOSCI by sponsoring our Web site and explain the uses and benefits of the system to the biology community. If they are interested, they can then contact us for further information at our tech support address, biosci-help@net.bio.net. 1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups. -------------------------------------------------------- As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net. One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured properly to send e-mail. Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS index. The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address database described in another item further below. 2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc. ------------------------------------------------------- BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups), mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/. The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net). Unfortunately it is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of newsgroups and mailing lists. These attempts to grab free advertising are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology. USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the mailing lists. However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses and hit these too, so neither medium is immune. What should you do personally if you get junk mail? --------------------------------------------------- Just delete it and move on without reading it further. Filing a protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from. Unless you really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing. What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups? ---------------------------------------------------- The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup. If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape. Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists completely. Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the time to review each message before it goes out. We have set up software here that simply allows the moderator to forward to an address at net.bio.net messages that (s)he wishes to have distributed. This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass it on, say about 1 min. per message. Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible for their newsgroup. The discussions leaders and their e-mail addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. If a newsgroup is being hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group. Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your complaint. With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net. We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator is willing to do the work. For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this entails only a few minutes of work each day. Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings on the USENET distribution. Unfortunately there are easy ways for determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET, but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if the newsgroup is moderated. You can also access our newsgroups over the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net. While this Web interface will not stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of your personal mail files. For those of you with local USENET news systems, the Web interface will also give you faster access to new newsgroups and recent postings. 3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------ PLEASE NOTE: The BIOSCI management does NOT act on subscription/unsubscription requests that are posted improperly to the newsgroups and mailing lists. People who do this only bother everyone on the lists to no avail. Please be sure to follow the proper procedures below. Gory details are in the BIOSCI Information sheets on the Web at http://www.bio.net. Below we give an example utilizing the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list at both of our two BIOSCI sites: Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI ------------------------------------------------------------------ node at computer net.bio.net: ---------------------------- A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ for the group. These can be found in the BIOSCI Info. Sheet. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS group the mailing address is methods@net.bio.net. The listname is the portion of the address to the left of the @ sign, i.e., "methods". The listname is used with the "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" commands illustrated below. B) Mail all commands in the body of a mail message addressed to biosci-server@net.bio.net. Do NOT send commands to the newsgroup posting addresses! Leave the Subject: line blank, any text on it will be ignored. C) In the body of your message put one or more of the following commands with an "end" command on the last line, e.g., subscribe methods unsubscribe methods end Do NOT put your e-mail address or other text on these lines. The server only allows you to cancel your subscription if the address on your mail header matches the address on our mailing list. Please ask for help at biosci-help@net.bio.net if your address has changed, e.g., if you know you are on the list but the server tells you that you are not a member. Users in Europe, Africa, and Central Asia who use the BIOSCI node at -------------------------------------------------------------------- computer daresbury.ac.uk (also known as dl.ac.uk): ------------------------------------------------- To subscribe and unsubscribe to/from the BIOSCI lists, you need to specify the full USENET newsgroup name with "bionet-news." prepended. The USENET newsgroup names are listed in the BIOSCI Information sheet on the Web at http://www.bio.net/. For the METHODS-AND-REAGENTS list the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the appropriate commands are sub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts unsub bionet-news.bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts These commands are included in a message addressed to mxt@dl.ac.uk, NOT to the newsgroup mailing addresses. As usual, include the text in the body of the message as text on the Subject: line is ignored. To unsubscribe from all the lists at the UK node, use unsub bionet-news Please note that if the address in the list is different than the one in your mail message header, you will not be able to unsubscribe by this method. If you have problems, please mail biosci@daresbury.ac.uk. 4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory. ----------------------------------------------------------- Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have not already done so. You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL http://www.bio.net/adrform.html. The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is http://www.bio.net/). If you are not directly on the Internet but can reach it by e-mail, please use our waismail server to access the user directory. waismail use is described above. You can also request a user address form by e-mail from biosci-help@net.bio.net. Please check your database entry from time-to-time to see if your address information is still up-to-date. Because of our limited personnel resources, we ask that you resubmit a *complete* form to revise your entry; we only replace complete entries and do not have resources to edit old forms. From owner-p450@net.bio.net Mon Jul 13 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!PHARMACY.ARIZONA.EDU!HALPERT From: HALPERT@PHARMACY.ARIZONA.EDU ("JIM HALPERT, Ph.D") Newsgroups: bionet.molecules.p450 Subject: new address Date: 14 Jul 1998 11:34:05 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 14 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Please note my new address after September 1, 1998 Professor and Chairman Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston 301 University Boulevard Galveston, Texas 77555-1031 Tel: (409) 772-1561 FAX: (409) 772-9642 email: jhalpert@utmb.edu From owner-p450@net.bio.net Tue Jul 14 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.Stanford.EDU!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.ecrc.net!wuff.mayn.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!not-for-mail From: Johannes Schulze Newsgroups: bionet.molecules.p450 Subject: job offer pharmacology Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:38:40 -0700 Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <35AD1350.3758@LRZ.uni-muenchen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialb128.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) Vacancy for a doctoral student at the Institute of Pharmacology and Toxicology at the University of Munich/ Germany. 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Griffin) Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molecules.p450,bionet.software Subject: DNA Array technology Date: 27 Jul 1998 11:14:24 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 36 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Xref: biosci bionet.general:30471 bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts:69349 bionet.molecules.p450:253 bionet.software:21536 Hello Colleagues, This post is to announce the initiation of the "Gene-Array" listserv . The focus of this list is DNA Gene-Chip technology, or more broadly, DNA Array technology. While the initial impetus for this forum was to be limited to Affymetrix GeneChip Systems, it is clear for many reasons that a broader forum is appropriate (alas how shall we state it, the dogs are about the rabbitŠand for many good reasons). The general goal is to facilitate the exchange of information in use and experience with these technologies to the collective benefit of all subscribers. Currently, this listserv is not moderated, it is our hope that will not be necessary. However, if need beŠ so be it. What follows are instructions for "signing on" for those who may not be familiar with listservs. To sign-on: 1. Send a one line e-mail message to: listserv@listserv.ucsf.edu 2. The single line message should be: subscribe Gene-Arrays first name last name Assuming success, you will in turn receive a response from the Gene-Array listserv which will provide you practical information regarding the listserv. Please feel free to e-mail me in the event you experience any problems signing-on. This a second attempt to post, I fear I may have made an error on my first shot. Regards Chandi Griffin Mol. Bio. Core SFGH/GCRC San Francisco General Hospital/UCSF From owner-p450@net.bio.net Mon Jul 27 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!island.idirect.com!cyclone.mbnet.mb.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!not-for-mail From: Brian Fristensky Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molecules.p450,bionet.software Subject: Re: DNA Array technology Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:14:30 -0500 Organization: University of Manitoba Lines: 31 Message-ID: <35BE1506.FDB5FE34@cc.umanitoba.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: brassica.cc.umanitoba.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Xref: biosci bionet.general:30477 bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts:69370 bionet.molecules.p450:254 bionet.software:21543 C. Griffin wrote: > > This post is to announce the initiation of the "Gene-Array" listserv . The > focus of this list is DNA Gene-Chip technology, or more broadly, DNA Array > technology. While the initial impetus for this forum was to be limited to > Affymetrix GeneChip Systems, it is clear for many reasons that a broader > forum is appropriate (alas how shall we state it, the dogs are about the > rabbitSand for many good reasons). The general goal is to facilitate the > exchange of information in use and experience with these technologies to > the collective benefit of all subscribers. ... stuff deleted I would be very interested in such a forum. However, wouldn't it be easier to create a USENET Newsgroup? Newsreading software is specifically designed for these types of exchanges, and avoids the mailbox clutter associated with listservs. =============================================================================== Brian Fristensky | Department of Plant Science | If Bill Gates had a dime University of Manitoba | for every time a Windows box crashed... Winnipeg, MB R3T 2N2 CANADA | frist@cc.umanitoba.ca | .... Oh, wait a minute, he already does. Office phone: 204-474-6085 | FAX: 204-474-7528 | Christopher B. Browne http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~frist/ =============================================================================== From owner-p450@net.bio.net Wed Jul 29 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!su-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.wli.net!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.cs.utwente.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!xs4all!user From: a_team@dds.nl (A-team) Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molecules.p450,bionet.software Subject: Re: DNA Array technology Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:06:30 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 27 Sender: amtha@dc2-modem2291.dial.xs4all.nl Message-ID: References: <35BE1506.FDB5FE34@cc.umanitoba.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: dc2-modem2291.dial.xs4all.nl X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dc2-modem2291.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.136.243] X-XS4ALL-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1998 11:05:37 CEST X-XS4ALL-User: amtha Xref: biosci bionet.general:30495 bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts:69439 bionet.molecules.p450:255 bionet.software:21554 In article <35BE1506.FDB5FE34@cc.umanitoba.ca>, Brian Fristensky wrote: >> the collective benefit of all subscribers. >... stuff deleted > >I would be very interested in such a forum. However, >wouldn't it be easier to create a USENET Newsgroup? Newsreading >software is specifically designed for these types of exchanges, >and avoids the mailbox clutter associated with listservs. The problem with a newsgroup is that its articles have a limited lifespan. Also, unless a company supplies us with a public accessible news server, newsgroups need to be carried by the service provider one is allied to. Another problem with newsgroups is that, because news items tend to carry e-mail addresses of the senders, tend to act as spam generators. Listervers on the other hand, can be set to 'digest' mode, which sends out only one mail a day, to subscribers anywhere, regardless of their ISP. These mails can be simply filtered into specific mail boxes. But then, indeed, bionet.DNAArray? ard From owner-p450@net.bio.net Wed Jul 29 23:00:00 1998 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson) Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molecules.p450,bionet.software Subject: Re: DNA Array technology Date: 30 Jul 1998 10:47:39 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6pqbjr$iql@net.bio.net> References: <35BE1506.FDB5FE34@cc.umanitoba.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Xref: biosci bionet.general:30498 bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts:69451 bionet.molecules.p450:256 bionet.software:21562 In article , A-team wrote: >In article <35BE1506.FDB5FE34@cc.umanitoba.ca>, >Brian Fristensky wrote: > >>> the collective benefit of all subscribers. >>... stuff deleted >> >>I would be very interested in such a forum. However, >>wouldn't it be easier to create a USENET Newsgroup? Newsreading >>software is specifically designed for these types of exchanges, >>and avoids the mailbox clutter associated with listservs. > >The problem with a newsgroup is that its articles have a limited lifespan. >Also, unless a company supplies us with a public accessible news server, >newsgroups need to be carried by the service provider one is allied to. >Another problem with newsgroups is that, because news items tend to carry >e-mail addresses of the senders, tend to act as spam generators. > >Listervers on the other hand, can be set to 'digest' mode, which sends out >only one mail a day, to subscribers anywhere, regardless of their ISP. >These mails can be simply filtered into specific mail boxes. > >But then, indeed, bionet.DNAArray? > > >ard > > I have already passed this suggestion on to the current BIOSCI management. Dave Kristofferson ex_BIOSCI/bionet Manager