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 a plant with parallel venation compound leaves.


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From: h0367naa@rz.hu-berlin.de (Carsten Richter)
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Subject: Rubisco, Help needed
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I am looking for an essay for Rubisco.
Who can give me a literature-hint or send me an essay via e-mail?

My e-mail adress: h0367naa@rz.hu-berlin.de

Thank you. 

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Bram.Wolthoorn@inter.NL.net (Bram wolthoorn) writes:

>
>I am looking for the exact description of the species 'mopane', as used in
 ...to the mopane forests of Samburu... What kind of tree/shrub is this?? 
Can someone give me the latin name and the specification of this plant??

Colophospermum mopane (Leguminosae) is a tree 4-18 m high, dominant over
large areas of Southern Africa in hot, low areas. Often forms pure stands,
leaves resemble butterfly wings, droop during hottest time of day. 
Levaes are important animal fodder; wood very durable.

Don't know about Samburu though, if this refers to the Kenyan tribe there
would be no mopane there!

Henk 
(lukte niet on terug te sturen per email, vandaar posting)

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In article <44nlb2$mom@cpip.kent.edu> lwillia3@Phoenix.kent.edu (Williams Lori      ) writes:

> a plant with parallel venation compound leaves.

Most palms.  Some cycads also come close enough.
mdt

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From: Lisa Abbott <ez051699@peseta.ucdavis.edu>
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	I live in Davis, CA (zone 14?) and am looking for something to
block my upstairs balcony from the neighbors view that is attractive and
fragrant.  I do not want something that dies during the winter.  Star
jasmine was suggested, so I bought a trellis and large redwood pots.  The
balcony gets full sun through most of the day; the winters can get cold
and wet (no snow of course :). 

My questions are:
	1.  Will Star Jasmine do well as a container pot?
	2.  Is there some other plant I should be considering?


	Thanks in advance for any help!
		Lisa

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In article <1995Sep29.102406.6962@tower>, BUFFALOS STOMP GATORS (jlsch@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu) writes:
>
That is the point -- 'cultivar' does NOT only refer to plants that are
vegetatively propagated.
>
>In article <812372265snz@indhort.demon.co.uk>, Piers Trehane <Piers@indhort.demon.co.uk> writes:
>> In article <arkrause-2809951819090001@192.0.2.1>
>>            arkrause@amherst.edu "Alan" writes:
>
>Good grief piers,
>
>be careful with the use of the word most.  Many crops cultivars
>(for example many tree crops such as Citrus, Apple, Pear, etc.)
>are asexually propagated.  You sight corn for an example.  Most,
>if not all, commercial corn grown is from hybrid seed which would 
>not be a true cultivar.
>
>
>
>> 
>>>  stephen fitzgerald <stephenf@netspace.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > >I need to know what is the meaning of the abbreviation "cv" 
>>> > 
>>> > Cv is indeed Cultivars which is a new fangled word for 'Cultivated
>>> Varieties'. In >most countries there is a cultivar register. If the
>>> characteristic of the selection is >constant then the plant can be
>>> registered and even patented. It is not a 
>>> > recognised botanical group like 'species'.
>>> > 
>>> I believe it is also true that cultivars cannot be sexually propagated.
>>> Offspring are available by asexual propagation only, i.e. cuttings,
>>> layerings,etc.
>> 
>> 
>> You are absolutely wrong here Alan:  _most_ cultivars are raised from seed -
>> think about all the corn/rice/fodder/vegetable crops in the world.  They
>> are mostly sold as "varieties" - a term which in this sense, is exactly
>> equivalent to the word "cultivar".
>> 
>> In the US, a cultivar may only be patented if it is propagated vegetatively:
>> seed-raised cultivars have to have Plant Breeders' Rights attached if the
>> originator wants to earn cash from national/international sales of his new
>> cultivar.
>> 
>> OK ?
>> 
>> Piers
>> -- 
>> ________________________________________________
>>  Piers Trehane  -  Editor of "INDEX HORTENSIS"
>>  Hampreston Manor, Wimborne, Dorset BH21 7LX, UK
>>  piers@indhort.demon.co.uk
>


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In article <44mhr7$enr@er7.rutgers.edu> Bethany S. Keenan,
bkeenan@er7.rutgers.edu writes:
>what is a good ivyish plant for a low light room?

        How about ivy?  There are about 400 named cultivars in
circulation, mostly selected forms of Hedera helix, and for the most part
they are pretty bulletproof.  Follow the same general regime as for the
spider plant:  good drainage, not too much water or fertilizer
(especially in low light).  There's a mail order supplier called Ivies of
the World, if you really want to look for a gourmet variety.  ('Green
Ripple' is possibly the best for indoor cultivation.)
        Cheers -- rg


"I realized that everything in the world was an interplay of identical
particles: the trees, the water, you. All was unified, equivalent,
divine." 
                          Nabokov, SOUNDS <1923>
                         physics imitates fiction
                     http://www.midcoast.com/~treehaus

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From: phil@chaineux.centexbel.be (Philippe LEMAIRE)
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Subject: Seeds wanted !?
Date: 2 Oct 1995 12:38:10 GMT
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Hello all,

I don't know weither it is the good place for this but I'm looking
for some seeds of plants that should grow in Belgium but that I 
cannot locate.

I'm mostly interested in

Magnolia Grandiflora   and
Genista Aethnensis !

If one can help me please send me an email !
Otherwise sorry to have bother you !

Regards,



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From: Maarten.vanhelden@medew.ento.wau.nl (Maarten van Helden)
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In article <44mhr7$enr@er7.rutgers.edu>, bkeenan@er7.rutgers.edu says...
>
>First of all, thanks to everyone who responded (especially the cook college 
>alum, pretty funny, I'm on Douglass). Here's what I was told and what I'm
>doing:
>        1) Yellow or brown = too much water?
>                Okay, I don't water it too much now
>        2) yellow or brown = not enough water
>                Okay I'm confused
>        3) It will adapt to light
>                Good... I only have one window
>        4) It should be fertilized
>                I'm buying some this week
>        5) I should put drainage holes in the pot
>                I did, it seemed to help.
>So hopefully my plant will revive itself, with your help. If you guys
>could just clear up if yellow/brown means  too much water, or too little, 
>I'd be set.
>        Also, what is a good ivyish plant for a low light room?
>                                Thank you all so much
>                                                Bethany

Just to make it a little clearer: If a plant does not get enough water it will 
wilt and turn brown (Anon et al. 1901). This is usually caused by a lack of 
water uptake by the roots which can be caused by a lack of water in the pot 
(then you should water it more) or a problem in the function of the roots. If 
the plant gets too much water the roots will be immersed. This will cause 
rotting of the roots and they then cannot function as they should. So, the 
symptom might be the same: the plant will wilt. So check the soil, that's the 
best place to see what's causing the problem.  
-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
||\\  //||  Dr. Maarten van Helden
|| \\// ||  Dept. of Entomology
||  \/  ||  Wageningen Agricultural University
||||||||||  Binnenhaven 7, 6709 PD
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P.S.  In the first line, I meant it to say "don't plan when you water a 
plant" instead of "don't plant when you water"  Sorry!  I didn't notice 
it until the computer had started sending it!  If there are any other 
mistakes, I'm sorry!

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When watering a plant, don't plant when you are going to water the 
plant.  Instead, water when it is needed.  This works for almost all (if 
not all) plants.  To determine if the plant needs watering, *feel* of the 
soil surface.  If it is dry or warm, your plant needs watering.  If it is 
moist or cool, your plant does not need watering.  This works because the 
surface of the soil dries out before the rest.  If you decide your plant 
needs water, pour it some until it runs out the bottom of the pot.  (this 
is why you need drainage holes)  When the soil dries, it  pulls away from 
the edges of the pot.  So, when some people think that they have 
"drowned" a plant because water runs right out the bottom of the pot, 
they really haven't watered it at all because the water has actually ran 
down the crack along the edge of the pot.  In a few minutes, come back 
and water again, after the soil has had time to expand and close up the 
space around the pot.  This time, water until the soil can hold no more 
water, and water pours out the bottom of the pot. (another good reason 
for drainage holes) This water running out 
of the bottom of the pot will take with it some soluble salts (SS) that 
could damage your root system if allowed to build up.  These soluble 
salts can come from fertilizer or from minerals in your water.  Also, 
when watering, try not to get the leaves of the plant wet, because this 
can promote disease.  Tepid, or room temperature water is best for 
watering plants, because the chlorophyll of some plants, such as the African 
violet [_Saintpaulia_X_ionantha_] or Gloxinia [_Sinningia_speciosa_] will 
die if the water is cold and comes into contact with the leaves.

Also, about the "ivyish" plant for low light conditions, the following 
plants may do the trick for you:

_Epipremnum aureum_			Devil's Ivy or Golden Pothos
_Ficus pumila_				Creeping Fig
_Philodendron scandens 'Oxycardium'_	Heartleaf Philodendron
_Plectranthus australis_		Swedish Ivy

I hope all of this help and that your spider plant gets "fixed."

;)

On 1 Oct 1995, Bethany S. Keenan wrote:

> 
> First of all, thanks to everyone who responded (especially the cook college 
> alum, pretty funny, I'm on Douglass). Here's what I was told and what I'm
> doing:
> 	1) Yellow or brown = too much water?
> 		Okay, I don't water it too much now
> 	2) yellow or brown = not enough water
> 		Okay I'm confused
> 	3) It will adapt to light
> 		Good... I only have one window
> 	4) It should be fertilized
> 		I'm buying some this week
> 	5) I should put drainage holes in the pot
> 		I did, it seemed to help.
> So hopefully my plant will revive itself, with your help. If you guys
> could just clear up if yellow/brown means  too much water, or too little, 
> I'd be set.
> 	Also, what is a good ivyish plant for a low light room?
> 				Thank you all so much
> 						Bethany
> 

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In bionet.plants Mark Hibbert <hibbert@mcs.com> writes:
: 
: In Article<44kser$1mi@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, <rdglenn@aol.com> write:
: > 
: > I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but I
: > recently purchased a 6' and 8' indoor palm plant that is quickly 
: dying on
: > me.  I'm not sure what specimen it is, but it is a single trunk with 
: 5 to
: > 6 fronds.  The smaller fronds are turning yellow and brown and 
: dying--and
: > the larger fronds are now doing the same thing.  I water them once a 
: week,
: > they receive indirect sunlight for approximately 4 hours per day and 
: I
: > keep the windows open whenever possible for ventilation.  I even 
: tried
: > talking to it, but that doesn't seem to help.  The average 
: temperature in
: > the house is around 68 to 70 degrees.  What can I do to save them?   
: 
: I'm not certain I can help without knowing the species but here are a 
: few general ideas.
: 
: First, four hours of indirect light is not enough if the rest of the 
: day lighting is poor. Some jungle palms do well in low light like what 
: they would get under a jungle canopy but desert palms are designed to 
: require bright or full sun for extended periods. Consider a grow lamp 
: and timer or move it to a more bright spot.
: 
: Second, watering on a regular basis may not be the answer. You may be 
: systematically over- or under-watering. Consider buying a moisture 
: probe that will give you an idea of the moisture level at the root 
: level since the surface can be misleading.
: 
: Third, check for drafts of cold air like you would get from air 
: conditioners or now dry air from heaters they will cause leaves to 
: yellow and drop.
: 
: Fourth, check carefully the underside of the fronds for insect or mite 
: infestations. These are often easily seen and with close examination 
: the description can be applied to the reverse side of most plant 
: insecticide containers which show the most common bugs. If the problem 
: is spider mites (two-spotted or red) your in trouble. Those bastards 
: are tough and will spread like wildfire to any other plants (except 
: I've never seen them bother an Elephant foot palm (Beaucarnia 
: recurvata)). For mites, a systemic insecticide is necessary or a 
: garbage can. Mites can be distinguished by their producing webs for 
: mating when the infestation is bad.
: 
: So, first check for bugs then check moisture levels deep down. If they 
: are okay then move the plant away from drafts or closer to bright 
: light. The hardware for these suggestions should be available where 
: gardening implements are sold. 
: 
: Best of luck with it. If you find out the species name let me know and 
: I may be a better help.
: 
: Mark Hibbert
: hibbert@mcs.com
: 


I would agree with your diagnosis, doctor.  :-)

I have an Areca indoor palm that is 7 feet tall, with about 7 or 8 fronds.
I've lost one frond and am losing another, more than likely due to
lack of light.  I spoke with a greenhouse that deals in tropicals
and was told that Arecas like light from above too.  This would explain why
my smaller Areca and Date Palms are doing fine-- they are no more than
3 feet high and catch a lot of light.

Also, when there is less light, cut down on water.

By the way, just a side note, by Elephant Foot Palm do you mean
Royal Palm?  The kind of palms that look like a pedestal and flare out
at the base?

---
Jim Yorton
jjy@xnet.com

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In <44ofo0$hf0@suncom.rz.hu-berlin.de>, h0367naa@rz.hu-berlin.de (Carsten Richter) writes:

>I am looking for an essay for Rubisco.
>Who can give me a literature-hint or send me an essay via e-mail?
============
 
Well, I'm not going to write your paper for you, but you might look for some
recent reviews by Fred Hartman (wonderful writer).

Hartman FC and MR Harpel (1993) Chemical and genetic probes of the
active site of D-ribulose-1,5-bisophosphate carboxylase/oxygenase:
A retrospective based on the three-dimensional Structure  Advances in
Enzymology V. 67, pp. 1-73

Hartman FC and MR Harpel (1994) Structure, function, regulation, and assembly
of D-ribulose-1,5-bisphosphate carboxylase/oxygenase.  Ann. Rev. Biochem. 63,
pp. 197-234

Andrews TJ, Morell MK, Kane HJ, Paul K, Quinlan GH, and Edmondson DL (1994)
in Carbon Dioxide Fixation and Reduction in Biological and Model Systems (Branden
CI and Schneider G, Eds.) pp 53-68 Oxford University Press

Anderws TJ and Lorimer GH (1987) in The Biochemistry of Plants (Hatch, MD and
Boardman, NK, Eds.) pp 53-68 Oxford University Press

A recent paper from Hartmans lab is:

Harpel MR, Serpersu EH, Lamerdin JA, Huang Z-H, Gage DA, and Hartman FC (1995)
Oxygenation mechanism of ribulose-bisphosphate carboxylase/oxygenase.
Structure and origin of 2-carboxytetritol 1,4-bisphosphate, a novel O2-dependent
side product generated by a site-directed Mutant.  Biochemistry 34: 11296-11306

With the above list, you should have access to virtually the entirety of Rubisco
via references (and a bit of work in the library).

Good luck.  Rubisco is a large topic, so try to understand the basics, then choose
some area to focus in.  For a first try, simply understanding that Rubisco errantly
reacts the carbon substrate with Oxygen, rather than wanted gaseous CO2, is
probably the most important physiological reason for understanding this enzyme.
If this is new to you, then focus a bit on understanding the physiological, biochemical
and environmental effects of erroneously reacting with Oxygen, rather than CO2.

Any good Plant Physiology book can get you up to speed on Rubisco, so I might
try these before the more challenging reviews listed above.

Eric Larson
elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu


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From: "Carl H. Hovermale" <ca1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
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Subject: Re: Lawn vs Wild Violets
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:05:26 -0500
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If prepared right they make real good greens, taste a lot like spinich
enjoy

On 1 Oct 1995, Thomas A. Jarchow wrote:

> I have an extreem infestation of wild violets in my lawn.  Any suggestions?
> 
> 

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Subject: Re: Help! Meaning of "cv"
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In article <arkrause-2809951819090001@192.0.2.1> arkrause@amherst.edu (Alan) writes:
>From: arkrause@amherst.edu (Alan)
>Subject: Re: Help! Meaning of "cv"
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 18:19:08 -0500

> stephen fitzgerald <stephenf@netspace.net.au> wrote:

>> >I need to know what is the meaning of the abbreviation "cv" 
>> 
>> Cv is indeed Cultivars which is a new fangled word for 'Cultivated
>Varieties'. In >most countries there is a cultivar register. If the
>characteristic of the selection is >constant then the plant can be
>registered and even patented. It is not a 
>> recognised botanical group like 'species'.
>> 
>I believe it is also true that cultivars cannot be sexually propagated.
>Offspring are available by asexual propagation only, i.e. cuttings,
>layerings,etc.

Not in my experience.  The things that we used that were called cultivars 
were sexually-propagated.  Perhaps we or the people supplying us were 
misusing the word.


  
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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Some historians attribute this remark to Mark Twain, however, it's 
actually from Matt Groenig.

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Oct 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: Maarten.vanhelden@medew.ento.wau.nl (Maarten van Helden)
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Subject: Re: Lawn vs Wild Violets
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In article <44mqts$t7o@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, d_micro@ix.netcom.com says...
>
>In <44mm6t$l65@omnifest.uwm.edu> tjarchow@omnifest.uwm.edu (Thomas A.
>Jarchow) writes: 
>>
>>I have an extreem infestation of wild violets in my lawn.  Any
>suggestions?
>
>>>>Violets and other broadleaf pests appear early in spring. If
>>>>ypur grass is dormant (such as zozzia or bermuda), stray with
>>>>a weak solution of RoundUp. Be Sure your grass is dormant when
>>>>the Round-Up is sprayed. I prefer to use pre-emergence fertilizer
>>>>in early spring to get the chick-weed, and light applications of
>>>>broad leaf herbicides (containing 2-4-D) during the warm portions of
>>>>the year. The application MUST BE DONE right after a rain, while the
>>>>grass is still wet. I have bermuda grass and my lat/long is 34/83
>>>>repectively. Hope this helps!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is bound to go wrong with roundup!! Roundup will kill any actively 
growing plant. So this will cause problems. However there are some weed 
killers which are specific against dicotyledons (most "broad leaved plants). 
These substances are actualy growth regulators and should be used during warm 
dry weather while the plants are actively growing (spring is ideal) but *not* 
wet. The herbicides are taken up by the plant, transported to the growing tips 
and roots and cause severe growth distortion and death. Such herbicides 
contain  MCPA (2-methyl-4-chloorfenoxyaceticacid), fluroxypyr, mecoprop-p or 
tryclopyr as active ingredients. A good garden center should be able to help 
you with this. 

Maarten

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From: egilding@lava.net (Edward K. Gilding)
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Subject: Nepenthes Habitat Data
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 95 21:16:35 PST
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Does anyone know where I could find Information on the localities of 
Nepenthes spp. in The Phillipines?

Thank you,

egilding@lava.net


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From: sabotage <sabotage@rtd.com>
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Subject: Cactus stickers-glochids-HELP!
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Glochids are tiny hairlike stickers found on many cholla and prickly 
pear cactii.  When viewed from any distance they would appear to be 
nothing more than fuzzy little bundles. These hairs are very 
dangerous!  They range in size from microscopic to 5 mm.  Most of 
them are clear.  Human body contact with glocids can lead to a
horrible medical dilema.  They cause allergic reactions in many
people due to the stickers themselves or due to the fungus that
thrives on them.  Glochids can also be blown from the ground or
off of the cactus and stick to your skin.  The slightest touch can
then force them deeper into the skin.  They are very flimsy and 
break apart when an attempt is made to remove them.  Glochids can
remain in the human body for many years.  There are several 
techniques for removing glochids from the skin, but none of them
will assure 100 percent removal.  If you get into them, go to a
doctor that has heard of them and has experience treating cactus 
stickers in the skin. WASTE NO TIME GOING TO THE DOCTOR!  If you 
wait too long the portion of the stickers above the skin will rub
and break off, leaving a large portion in your body.  If you do not
find a doctor that is knowledgeable on this subject it is HIGHLY 
LIKELY THEY WILL SAY YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!  If this happens, FIGHT IT!
The associated pain due to these nasty buggers, especially if you 
have any type of sensitivity to them, will be horrifying to the
extent that you may contemplate suicide to end the pain that the
doctors have refused to treat, or not know how to treat.  Please 
contact me if you know what a glocid is. I need help!  My e-mail
address is sabotage@rtd.com.
   


From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Oct 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: "Ralph D. Arnold" <rarnold@teleport.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.plants,sci.agriculture,bionet.cellbio,sci.bio
Subject: T/C of Corn Endosperm Cells (And wild rice/Zinania?)?
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I need to make tissue cultures of corn endosperm cells (and wild rice/
Zizania).  Any suggestions on where I might find this info?  Have you
personally done it?  Any advice!   I am familiar with fungus culture
techniques.  Similiar/different??   

PS: besides posting to this fine newsgroup, would you please copy to my 
email address.  Thanks!  Ralph

Ralph D. Arnold rarnold@teleport.com 
P.O. Box 889, Oregon City, OR 97045   
voicemail: 503-656-4709
http://www.mtjeff.com/fungi

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From: "Carl H. Hovermale" <ca1@Ra.MsState.Edu>
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Subject: Re: Lawn vs Wild Violets
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If you want to get rid of the violets and your lawn is not st augustine 
you can use 2-4,D  But be sure to check the label and see if your grass 
is not sensitive.  most garden stores will have a material which will 
take care of the broadleaf plants. be sure you obey the label.

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Oct 02 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Bean genes
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    Could someone please give me a pointer to the "BeanGenes" mailing 
list?
Thank you in advance.
 end
Mihaly Czako Ph.D.
Research Associate
Department of Biological Sciences
University of South Carolina
700 Sumter st, Columbia, SC 29208 U.S.A.
Tel: (803)-777-8928; FAX: (803)-777-4002
czako@cls.biol.sc.edu

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From: invu311@aol.com (INVU311)
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Subject: plant virology
Date: 3 Oct 1995 17:54:24 -0400
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I am a HS senior doing an AP project on plant viruses and would like some
help or information about interesting or puzzling phenomena on this topic.
In other words, if you have any ideas on What I should research, it would
help.....

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Oct 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: cmiranda@UCSC.CL
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Subject: orchids seeds
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        Hi all

        
                I want express my intention to know where  and how to obtain
orchids seeds, How much it costs. I live in Chile and here there is not 
places for obtain it.

                Please, any information will be grateful.

                (Excuse me, my english is poor).

                Thans for your time and attention.

     
        Coti    - Chile, Sudamerica -     (-:  


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From: J.Morley@rbgkew.org.uk (James Morley)
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Try looking in:

Mitchell, J. & Rook, A. 1979.  Botanical Dermatology. Plants and Plant Products 
Injurious to the Skin.  Greengrass: Vancouver, BC.

Lovell, C.R. 1993.  Plants and the Skin.  Blackwell: Oxford.

From what I recall they both have info.  By the way, an electronic version of the
former is now available (in development) at http://medusa.cf.ac.uk/ though I've 
found the connection a little temperamental.

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James Morley                           J.Morley@rbgkew.org.uk
Centre for Economic Botany
Royal Botanic Gardens                    Tel. (0)181 332 5719
Kew, Richmond                            Fax. (0)181 332 5278
Surrey   TW9 3AE
UK                          WWW  http://www.rbgkew.org.uk/ceb
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In article <44qf24$7of@baygull.rtd.com>, sabotage <sabotage@rtd.com> says:
>
>Glochids are tiny hairlike stickers found on many cholla and prickly 
>pear cactii.  When viewed from any distance they would appear to be 
>nothing more than fuzzy little bundles. These hairs are very 
>dangerous!  They range in size from microscopic to 5 mm.  Most of 
>them are clear.  Human body contact with glocids can lead to a
>horrible medical dilema.  They cause allergic reactions in many
>people due to the stickers themselves or due to the fungus that
>thrives on them.  Glochids can also be blown from the ground or
>off of the cactus and stick to your skin.  The slightest touch can
>then force them deeper into the skin.  They are very flimsy and 
>break apart when an attempt is made to remove them.  Glochids can
>remain in the human body for many years.  There are several 
>techniques for removing glochids from the skin, but none of them
>will assure 100 percent removal.  If you get into them, go to a
>doctor that has heard of them and has experience treating cactus 
>stickers in the skin. WASTE NO TIME GOING TO THE DOCTOR!  If you 
>wait too long the portion of the stickers above the skin will rub
>and break off, leaving a large portion in your body.  If you do not
>find a doctor that is knowledgeable on this subject it is HIGHLY 
>LIKELY THEY WILL SAY YOU ARE DELUSIONAL!  If this happens, FIGHT IT!
>The associated pain due to these nasty buggers, especially if you 
>have any type of sensitivity to them, will be horrifying to the
>extent that you may contemplate suicide to end the pain that the
>doctors have refused to treat, or not know how to treat.  Please 
>contact me if you know what a glocid is. I need help!  My e-mail
>address is sabotage@rtd.com.
>   
>

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Oct 02 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Inquiry: Clean src for Chara, or cleanup protocol..?
Message-ID: <1995Oct3.112400.41866@ac.dal.ca>
From: tchipman@is.dal.ca (Tim Chipman)
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While I realize this may not be the most appropriate group for this
posting, it is the best I could do. Instead of flaming me on this point,
feel free to suggest a more appropriate group :-)

I am hoping to acquire a relatively clean culture of a macrophytic 
freshwater algae, Chara (A charophycean algae). I have recently acquired 
some field-collected Chara from a local pond, but I am somewhat concerned 
about the liklihood of ever getting an axenic culture from what is 
obviously a mess of other epiphytes growing on the Chara, not to mention 
the beetles and snails that were unintentionally collected.

Thus, my request is this: Does anyone know of

-Any source that has relatively clean Chara cultures? (Axenic ideally of 
course!)

-Any protocol for establishing axenic cultures from field-collected
material?

-Any protocol for cleaning up the field-collected material without 
killing it to yield something significantly less contaminated by other 
species? 


If you do have any suggestions on any of these topics, please email me at:
Tchipman@is.dal.ca

I really would greatly appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks very much!

Tim Chipman

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From: ash@magicnet.net (Nick J Kougioulis)
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Subject: Where can I find picts. of trees?
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I desperately need a picture of an aspen to complete a school project I'm
working on.

Please help if you can...

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Oct 03 23:00:00 1995
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From: dahleen@badlands.NoDak.edu (Lynn S Dahleen)
Subject: Re: Help! Meaning of "cv"
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Joao Miranda (jmiranda) wrote:

: I need to know what is the meaning of the abbreviation "cv" on following 
: sentence:

: 	- Samples of 16 species and cv of pineapples were analysed for 
: 	bromelain activity.


The cv above probably means "cultivar", which are unique genotypes bred 
by plant breeders for specific traits.


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From: PZDV69A@prodigy.com (Liz Lightfoot)
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Subject: Mushrooms Wild and Edible - book wanted
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I am looking for the book "Mushrooms Wild and Edible" by Vincent Marteka 
to purchase.  It seems to be out of print now.  If you have a copy that 
you would like to sell me.  Please e-mail me at: 
-
  LIZ LIGHTFOOT  PZDV69A@prodigy.com


Thank you!


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From: "Christian J. Terry" <sbxcjt@stn1.nott.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Seeds wanted !?
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You can purchase seed of both species form Chiltern Seeds, Bortree Style, Ulverston, Cumbria, 
LA12 7BP, England



Hope this has been useful




Christian Terry




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Naturalist Writer Paul Johnsgard will sign copies of his new book

_This Fragile Land_  on October 7th from 3-5 pm in his hometown of
Lincoln Nebraska

This book looks at the plants and wildlife of the Nebraska Sandhills

phone orders can be placed at (402) 475 7323 

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Our company sells a botanical database system that might be
suitable for this project. For more information see:

http://www.hooked.net/users/overmind/index.html

- Tim Johnson
Overmind Software

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Our here in the southwest (Tucson, AZ), we have a fairly 
simple and effective way of getting rid of the small 
stickers/stiff cactus hairs that burrow into the skin.  

We either apply fresh scotch tape to the skin, then yank;
or apply a moderately thin layer of Elmer's glue to the 
skin, allow to dry, then peel off.  You are right, you had
better get them out in a timely manner, otherwise they
will drive you nuts.  Worse, the tape and glue tricks don't
work if the stickers are buried too deeply into the skin. 

I hope this is the type of information you wanted.  Good luck.

Leslie Basel
lebasil@ag.arizona.edu
 

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Unto all more knowledgable than myself,	
	I am doing genetic research on Euphorbia esula (leafy spurge), 
and it would be increadibly helpful to be able to get these plants to 
flower on comand.  However, I have been unable to ID the right conditions 
to bring about flowering.  In the wild, these plants begin flowering in 
May, and continue flowering through August.  I have tried acclimating the 
plants to short days (8 hour light/16 hour darkness) for two weeks and 
then moving them to long day photoperiod (24 hour light) with no 
success.  I am currently trying a cold treatment along with photoperiod 
changes.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Does anyone know of any 
published studies where researchers induced flowering in other long day 
perenials?  Any help or advice will be appreciated.

Dave Horvath
USDA/ARS/BRL
Fargo, ND

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I am a Biology student in Hong Kong. Could you tell me what you have 
learnt in the field course? It should be very interesting for you to 
share with me, right? I'm looking forward to your reply!



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I am a Biology student in Hong Kong. Could you tell me what you have 
learnt in the field course? It should be very interesting for you to 
share with me, right? I'm looking forward to your reply!



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I am a Biology student in Hong Kong. Could you tell me what you have 
learnt in the field course? It should be very interesting for you to 
share with me, right? I'm looking forward to your reply!



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From: klura@ix.netcom.com (Keith Lura)
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    I would greatly appreciate learning about any information related
to the tissue-culturing of oaks.  I have learned that a growth medium
based upon cornstarch instead of expensive seaweed agar has had better
results with propogation of such plants as apple trees which are said
to be rather difficult;  perhaps this would hold true for members of
the genus Quercus as well.  Many, many thanks in advance for any
knowledge that can be passed on.

                            Stefan Lura

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>In article <43ub56$pf2@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>, mchili@aix1.uottawa.ca
() writes:
>>Ken Calhoun (kencal@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>: I was wondering if anyone knows of a tree that doesn't loose it's
>>: leaves in the winter (not pine needles).  I know evergreens keep
their
>>: needles but don't know of a non-tropical tree that keeps it's
leaves. 


    I know of a few plants which keep their leaves and also may be
hardy in that region of Canada.  First, there is the English holly
(Ilex aquifolium) which was mentioned by someone else-- I have gotten
it to survive quite nicely in zone 4a Minnesota winters.  The second
possible tree could be the southern magnolia (Magnolia grandiflora). 
It has two reputedly hardy varieties, "Edith Bogue" which should
survive to -20F. or -30F;  the second is "Bracken's Brown Beauty",
which is said to be even hardier but is very hard to come by in the
trade and is somewhat expensive.  Another tree which I am trying to
find is an asian oak (Lithocarpus henryi) which, with protection while
young, should tolerate temperatures to about -25F. with relatively
intact green leaves.  There is also a very, very rare small (about 30
feet tall at maturity) eucalyptus from the Australian Alps with only
one presently sold-out small-scale seller in the entire country-- I am
pleased to have one growing well after its first zone 4a Minnesota
winter;  it was expensive, but I would deem it the prize of the
gardening world if there ever was one.  I hope this helps!

                            Stefan Lura 
                            (Minnesota exotic plant experimentor)

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In article <43ub56$pf2@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>, mchili@aix1.uottawa.ca () writes:
>Ken Calhoun (kencal@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: I was wondering if anyone knows of a tree that doesn't loose it's
>: leaves in the winter (not pine needles).  I know evergreens keep their
>: needles but don't know of a non-tropical tree that keeps it's leaves. 
>
>The only tree I know of that keeps its leaves all winter here in Canada 
>is a Pin Oak.  The leaves die in fall like most deciduous trees, but most 
>of the leaves stay on all winter.  The shoots push off the old leaves in 
>the spring.  It makes for twice the raking.  
>
>There is a tree with needles that in fact sheds its needles in the fall.  
>That tree is called a Siberian Larch.
>
>Hope that helps with your nephew's project.
>
>Mike.
	The first plants thatcame to my mind are Magnolia grandiflora and the
leather-leaf viburnum.

K.M.Heldreth
Newark, DE

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I desperately need a picture of an aspen to complete a school project I'm
working on.

Please help if you can...

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In article <DFxBsE.tKo@ns1.nodak.edu> dahleen@badlands.NoDak.edu (Lynn S Dahleen) writes:
>From: dahleen@badlands.NoDak.edu (Lynn S Dahleen)
>Subject: Re: Help! Meaning of "cv"
>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 12:24:13 GMT

>Joao Miranda (jmiranda) wrote:

>: I need to know what is the meaning of the abbreviation "cv" on following 
>: sentence:

>:       - Samples of 16 species and cv of pineapples were analysed for 
>:       bromelain activity.


>The cv above probably means "cultivar", which are unique genotypes bred 
>by plant breeders for specific traits.

Let's also get rid of the idea that cultivars are unique genotypes.  
While some cultivars are unique genotypes (i.e., asexually progated cultivars, 
hybrids, and self-pollinated cultivars derived from a single, homozygous 
seed), the rest would not be.  This includes cultivars of cross-pollinated, 
seed derived crops, and cultivars consisting of blends or mixtures of 
self-pollinated crops (including early-generation composites).

A simple definition for a cultivar is from Fehr's Principles of Cultivar 
Development.  It states that

"Variety:  Subdivision of species for taxonomic classification.  Used 
interchangeably genetically with the term cultivar to denote a group of 
individuals that are distinct genetically from other groups of individuals in 
the species."

Thus, the individuals in a cultivar are expected to have a distinguishing 
genetic characteristic in common, but other than that, need not be of the same 
genotype.

Finally, there is nothing to say that a cultivar must be the result of a 
breeding program.  Land races, ecotypes (whatever may be the difference 
between these two terms), and even individual genotypes collected from the 
wild have at various times been released as cultivars.

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You are invited to join in an interactive conversation with the 1995
World Food Prize Laureate, the winner of the foremost international
award that recognizes the achievements of individuals who have 
advanced human development by improving the quality, quantity or 
availability of food.

The chat session will immediatelely follow the announcement of the
1995 World Food Prize Laureate. This opportunity will allow you
to be one of the the first to talk with the 1995 Laureate, a noted
Swiss eco-scientist who has spent the last 18 years in Africa 
working to solve its agricultural, environmental and economic 
problems, particularly in rural areas.

This year's recipient of the prize will be recognized for his
outstanding achievements as a scientist who has effectively utilized
the power of nature to further develop sustainable agriculture and
improve the security of the world's food supply, primarily in 
sub-Saharan Africa.

HOW TO PARTICIPATE: If you have World Wide Web access, use your
Web browser (such as Netscape or Mosiac) to reach the World 
Food Prize Web site.  The World Food Prize site will offer a 
direct hyperlink into a reserved chat room. You can find the World
Food Prize site at http://www.netins.net/showcase/wfp

The chat session will take place on Monday, Oct. 16 at 11:00 am
(Eastern Daylight Time). It is scheduled for about one hour.

If you have any questions, technical or otherwise, please feel
free to e-mail me, Kelley Jenkins (kjenkins@shandwick.com) or call
me at (202) 383-9712.  Also, I would very much appreciate hearing
from you if you are planning to particiapte.
  

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There is a major attempt to gather information on native Alaskan plants 
reguarding medicinal, spiritual, edible, gardening, etc. If anyone has 
info on this subject please feel free to respond. thanks
fsjlc5@aurora.alaska.edu


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In <44u609$tvm@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> PZDV69A@prodigy.com (Liz
Lightfoot) writes: 
>
>I am looking for the book "Mushrooms Wild and Edible" by Vincent
Marteka 
>to purchase.  It seems to be out of print now.  If you have a copy
that 
>you would like to sell me.  Please e-mail me at: 
>-
>  LIZ LIGHTFOOT  PZDV69A@prodigy.com
>
>
>Thank you!
>>>
>>>>No book, but only experts can clearly identify the edible ones!
>>>>Use extreme care.......good luck..........Micro.


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Does anyone know where I could get hold of seed/bulbs  of the South American Amaryllid, 
Worsleya procera. Any leads would be greatly appreciated





Christian Terry


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In Article<44p99u$o7i@flood.xnet.com>, <jjy@xnet.com> write:
 
 
 


..earlier stuff deleted... 
>
> : I've never seen them bother an Elephant foot palm (Beaucarnia 
> : recurvata)). For mites, a systemic insecticide is necessary or a 
> : garbage can. Mites can be distinguished by their producing webs 
for 
> : mating when the infestation is bad.
 
..more of me blabbing deleted...
 

> : Mark Hibbert
> : hibbert@mcs.com
> : 
> 
> 
> I would agree with your diagnosis, doctor.  :-)
> 
> I have an Areca indoor palm that is 7 feet tall, with about 7 or 8 
fronds.
> I've lost one frond and am losing another, more than likely due to
> lack of light.  I spoke with a greenhouse that deals in tropicals
> and was told that Arecas like light from above too.  This would 
explain why
> my smaller Areca and Date Palms are doing fine-- they are no more 
than
> 3 feet high and catch a lot of light.
> 
> Also, when there is less light, cut down on water.
> 
> By the way, just a side note, by Elephant Foot Palm do you mean
> Royal Palm?  The kind of palms that look like a pedestal and flare 
out
> at the base?
> 
> ---
> Jim Yorton
> jjy@xnet.com

Thanks Jim,

I've had many plants so I've seen lots of strange problems appear. The 
Elephant foot palm (Beaucarnea recurvata) is a Mexican desert plant 
and a member of the family Agavaceae which contains some pretty tough 
customers. I haven't heard it called a Royal palm but I've heard it 
called a Ponytail Plant or a Bottle Plant.

It will grow to 30 ft in the wild but 6ft is a good size for an indoor 
plant. Physically, it is most often a single stem that is thick and 
fleshy and swells dramatically at the base. The 'leaves' look like 
ribbons radiating from the terminus of the plant. Larger plants will 
occasionally produce a second (or more) offshoot from the main stem.

Enough description. I personally like them because I had a nasty 
two-spotted spider mite infestation ravage my collection (~60 plants 
most floor size). The only plant never bothered by the little bastards 
was my Elephant Foot Palm.

Your other point about tall plants is too true. It is a shame when you 
have to cut back a large plant because of ceiling restrictions and 
diminishing light but it is fatal to true palms. They have only one 
terminal bud responsible for all their new leaf production and if it 
gets damaged (lopped off) the plant is doomed.

cheers,

Mark
hibbert@mcs.com  


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Subject: [VIPS] Crown ideotype for hybrid poplar
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There was considerable discussion at the recent International 
Poplar Symposium (IPS; point your Web browser at 
http://poplar1.cfr.washington.edu for more information) on 
ideotype breeding of hybrid poplar to maximize 
productivity in short (4-9 years) and medium (10-20 years) 
rotation plantations under intensive culture.  To continue the 
discussion beyond the end of the meeting, and to include as 
many new participants as possible, I would like to have a 
Virtual International Poplar Symposium (VIPS).  Hence, 
the [VIPS] in the header.

Of many possible elements to be included in an ideotype 
for a domesticated tree growing in a monoclonal stand, 
crown architecture is one element with the potential for 
strong input from various disciplines, including anatomy, 
physiology, evolutionary biology, ecology, and genetics.  
The two Populus species most often involved in commercial 
hybrid poplar plantations in Pacific Northwestern North 
America are P. trichocarpa (black cottonwood; PNW native) 
and P. deltoides (eastern cottonwood; from eastern and central 
NA).  These species have very different crowns:


		P. trichocarpa		P. deltoides
leaf angle
  hang		large			small
  tilt		small			large
sylleptic	many			few
  branches
proleptic	small			large
  branches
branch		steep			flat
  angle
light		high			lower
  interception
apical		high			lower
  control

F1 hybrids between P. trichocarpa and P. deltoides are 
intermediate for many of these crown characters, and 
superior to either parental species in growth (at least in the 
Pacific Northwest) and light interception.  However, there is 
nothing to indicate that the F1 hybrids have optimized 
crowns for productivity, and so there is a strong interest in 
understanding the critical components of a crown ideotype.

Ideotypes can be formulated on purely theoretical grounds, 
then tested empirically by breeding and selection.  The 
ability to clonally propagate ideotypes (and their sub-
optimum relatives) gives these experiments considerable 
statistical power.

Several key questions should be answered in order to 
formulate a crown ideotype:

1) Which crown characters (e.g., leaf orientation, branch 
number) are most influential in light interception?

2) Which Populus species can contribute to the net 
improvement of each important crown architecture trait?

3) How do crown ideotypes vary across latitude (i.e., 
changes in sun angle), or gradients of temperature, or 
changes in light intensity, or other physical features?

4) What is the evolutionary/ecological reason for the 
difference in crown structure between P. trichocarpa and P. 
deltoides?

5) How do crown ideotypes differ between short rotations 
for pulpwood and medium-length rotations for veneer or 
lumber?

6) How much of the variation in crown traits is genetic, and 
how much is due to phenotypic plasticity?


Toby Bradshaw                       | (206)616-1796 (voice)
Center for Urban Horticulture       | (206)616-1826 (FAX)
Box 354115                          | toby@u.washington.edu
University of Washington            | 47.39.496N 122.17.404W
Seattle WA 98195                    | Will make linkage maps for food.



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From: whlinc@ix.netcom.com (Wayne Lancaster )
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I need an idea for a Jr. High science project with peppers!  Reply
soon!

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Oct 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: nc7jr@ars-grin.gov (Bill Van Roekel)
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Subject: Re: Needed: Chenopodium rubrum seeds
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dmadhavi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (dmadhavi) wrote:

>Can someone suggest a source for Chenopodium rubrum seeds - US or Canadian
>souces preferably. Thanks in advance.

>D.L. Madhavi Ph.D
>Dept. Natl. Res. Environ. Sci.
>UIUC, IL. 
Cornucopia- A Source Book of Edible Plants by Stephen Facciola-
1990-Kampong Publications, 1870 Sunrise Drive, Vista Ca. 92084 Lists
these sources: Far North Gardens, 16785 Harrison, Livonia, MI. 48154,
313-522-9040.
and The Seed Source,  Rte 68,  Box 301, Tuckasegee, NC. 28783.  Good
luck.   


From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Oct 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: aphalo@cc.joensuu.fi (Pedro J. Aphalo)
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Some weeks ago there was a query on how to calculate day length.
Yesterday I wrote a program that does exactly that, so I thought
that who posted that query (I no longer have his/her name) and
hopefully others may find it useful.

I have made available an executable for MS-DOS (80206 or better,
with coprocessor) and the C++ source code at the following URL:

http://www.joensuu.fi/~aphalo/pub/daylen/

Pedro.

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Please let me inform you that information on all Kluwer Academic
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From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Oct 04 23:00:00 1995
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From: fraley@utkvx.utk.edu
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I am planning a trip down the MIssissippi from the Dyersburg, Tn area to just
north of Memphis.  Any suggestions on useful plant books (or other plant info)
for this journey would be greatly appreciated.  I am very happy to hear of the
possibility of a wetlands discussion group.

N. Fraley

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	As I went up to the himalayes on a expidition, I discovered a rare plant with gradual and straight 
uprooting leaves. Now,I found that to be extremely odd that a plant with green - brown leaves would be 
growing up there!? I took a small leaf of this plant and was unable to identify it in my lab. Would any one 
have any informmation of ANY plant growing in the himalayes which is not a part of tundra or such. I would 
greatly appreciate it. Even if you don't have info, E-Mail me on any strange plant encounters because I am 
trying to determine the number of odd plants normal people like you and me have encountered. Thanks a 
lot!
					Todd Harper <Chernint@selwyn.ca>


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Does any one know of a carnivorous plant?
				<Chernint@selwyn.ca>


From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
From: petor@texas.snafu.de (Peter Hein)
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Hi there!

I live in Berlin Germany and I am interested in tree seeds from all over the 
world (only regions of moderate climate, like Berlin). 

Hope to hear from you...Petor

Petor@texas.snafu.de

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From: rag55@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Japanese Journal of Genetics... ...anyone???
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In article <sjurk-2709951124510001@abcdmac.biology.uiowa.edu>, sjurk@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (stefanie jurk) writes:
>  
> I am *in need* of an article that was published in the Japanese 
> Journal of Genetics 1992, April; 67 (2): 147 - 54;
> Authors: Tsutsumi N, et al.
> Cannot locate this Journal here,
> can anyone help out????

Stephanie,

    Hi.  From a quick search of the CAplus file produced by the database I
work at, Chemical Abstracts Service, an abstract and index entries for
the article you mentioned:

Tsutsumi, Nobuhiko; Kanayama, Keiko; Tano, Shigemitsu, Suppression of
alpha-amylase gene expression by antisense oligonucleotide in barley
cultured aleurone layers, Jpn.  J.  Genet.  (1992), 67(2), 147-54

is there.  If you're interested, it might be worthwhile checking with the reference
librarian at your science library to see if your university already has an
account with us.  If they can't help you, check with our customer service desk
at 1-800-753-4227.  Also, if you need the whole article, check with our
Document Delivery Service at 1-800-678-4337.  There is a fee (sorry!), but
they have a lot of documents.

    Many people think that Chemical Abstracts has only chemical information,
but, a third of all the abstracts (journals, patents, conference proceedings,
etc.) we put out every year come from our bio-related areas and include lots
of molecular genetics abstracts like the above one.

    Well, I hope this helps!

							       Roger



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From: denmarel@ix.netcom.com (Dennis Marelli)
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Hi,

Is the fruit of the Kiwi vine (Actinidia deliciosa) a true berry?
It doesn't seem to fit into any of the other categories of simple
fleshy fruits.

Thanks in advance.

Dennis

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From: jteiller@ctc-mundo.net (Sebastián Teillier Arredondo)
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We are two botanists from Chile. We are working on Polylepis 
tarapacana (Rosaceae) population ecology and reproduction. Any information 
about it please send it to jteiller@ctc-mundo.net. Muchas gracias.

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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From: aragao@cenargen.embrapa.br (Francisco Jose Lima Aragao)
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Dear Netters
I would like to contact Dr. Isolde Saalbach from the Institut fur 
Pflanzengenetik und Kulturpflanzenforschung, in Gatersleben, Germany. Or 
Dr. David Waddell, in Berlin, Germany. Could someone help me. I know that 
it seems rude. I apologize. I would appreciate some information, if 
possible, e-mail or fax number.
Francisco Aragao.

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From: sclink@gemini.mco.edu (Stacey)
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Subject: Growing Trees - Black Walnut/Buckeye
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Hi!

Does anybody know if you can start a Black Walnut tree and a Buckeye tree from 
the nut (or seed)?   If so how is this done?  Or is there another way to do 
it? 


Thanks in advance!!
Stacey

sclink@gemini.mco.edu

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From: p_whitehead@icrf.icnet.uk (Phil Whitehead)
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 My six y/o son and I have planted seeds of the sensitive plant mimosa
pudica,
Ihave every confidence that we will get plants butthen my problems will
start because being inquisitive he will want to know how the leavs fold
down. Dads ofcourse are meant to know everything unfortunatly this one
hasn,t got a clue about movement in plants. 
could any of you botanists explain this phenomina in language that a simple
bio chemist can understand so that I can maintain my status as font of all
(useless )information.

please reply by E-Mail

phil whitehead

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From: pmiles@ivory.trentu.ca (pmiles)
Subject: help--Ginkgo biloba L.
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Hello, I'm an undergrad at Trent University, Canada hoping to get help, 
advice and/or direction about the past and present distribution of Ginkgo 
biloba L.. I have searched cd-rom and biological abstracts without much 
luck, there doesn't seem to be an over-abundance of material out there.  I 
am aware that wild populations of Ginkgo trees are few and far between but 
was that always the case?  Thanks, Phoebe Miles (in%"pmiles@trentu.ca")

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Oct 05 23:00:00 1995
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Dear Phil:
The leaves (and leaflets) of Mimosa pudica (the sensitive) have at the base of
their stalk a particular organ called pulvinus (you can see it) which is made
of fleshy tissue that has the capacity to loose or take up water from the
surrounding tissues. When the internal side of the pulvinus loose water and
the external get it the leaflets close, in the reverse case the leaflets open.
In the case of the main leaf stalk the situation is a little different because
they get down when the plant is touched because the external part of the pulvi-
nus is loosing water. Normally the leaflets close at sunset and reopen at dawn
because they have a sort of a clock in the pulvinus cells (entrained by light).
Anyway, when somebody touches the plant the leaflets close and the leaves drop
under the action of an electric impulse started in the part of the organ that
has been touched. They will reopen in about 15 minutes however.
Be careful anyway since the leaves of the sensitive close because the plant
doe not like to be touched and be eaten by herbivorous, it can't however dis-
tinguish between animals and men !
Cherles Darwin wrote a beautiful book about plant movements and about the
sensitive behaviour. It is a pity that so few scientists today read it and
are interested in studying this plant, because the intrinsic mechanism of the
movement is not known. They just know that potassium ions are involved. But
what activate and deactivate the postassium pumps !
Good luck with your son.

A nice weekend to all plant lowers!

Fernando from Rome

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From: klura@ix.netcom.com (Keith Lura)
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In <sclink.49.0009F74F@gemini.mco.edu> sclink@gemini.mco.edu (Stacey)
writes: 
>
>
>
>Hi!
>
>Does anybody know if you can start a Black Walnut tree and a Buckeye
tree from 
>the nut (or seed)?   If so how is this done?  Or is there another way
to do 
>it? 
>
>
>Thanks in advance!!
>Stacey
>
>sclink@gemini.mco.edu

    
    Both black walnuts and buckeyes are easy to grow from seed.  First,
the seed must be ripe (but fresh) and not eaten by insects.  Next, the
seed must be planted in the ground in the fall and go through the
winter there-- the alternate freezing and thawing of fall and spring
are the factors which break down germination-inhibiting chemicals
within the seed.  The trees will sprout when the weather warms the next
year.  As for any other ways, it is possible to simulate the conditions
by moving the potted seeds from freezer to refrigerator during the
course of a three-month period;  that way the plants can be allowed to
grow protected in indoor conditions when they sprout.  Or, they could
be sown in pots and allowed to winter over out-of-doors, then brought
in to grow.  But they will always need to be stratified-- that is the
cold treatment's name.  I hope it works out for you.

                    
                                    Stefan Lura




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In <451juc$pe@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Todd Harper <Chernint@selwyn.ca>
writes: 
>
>Does any one know of a carnivorous plant?
>				<Chernint@selwyn.ca>
>
>>>The Venus fly-trap is one. In the tropics there are many more
>>>such as bromelias and others that manufacture honey like, but
>>>very sticky flowers. I once tried that as glue but it never "set"!
>>>>That was many, many years ago in my homeland, Brasil.


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From: gmmurphy (George M. Murphy)
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Date: 6 Oct 1995 21:37:32 GMT
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Our Christmas Cactus has buds on it and we are afraid it will bloom early. 
Anyone know how we can slow it down.
George murphy


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Can anyone tell me just how poisonous green tomatoes are, or is it just a 
myth? Regards Ray Warner

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In <4547is$cpn@Owl.nstn.ca> gmmurphy (George M. Murphy) writes: 
>
>Our Christmas Cactus has buds on it and we are afraid it will bloom
early. 
>Anyone know how we can slow it down.
>George murphy
>

    It is completely normal for Christmas cacti and their kin to bloom
periodically year-round-- in fact, many Christmas cacti now sold are
actually not correctly identified.  They do not seem to enjoy blooming
when there is not enough light, so if you were to experiment with
placing it in lower (but still enough for healthy growth) light and
bringing it back to facilitate bud growth you may eventually find a
solution.  Other than the rumor that they drop their buds easily when
moved from their locations, there is not much control over Christmas
cactus habits.  But if you try something like this, be aware that it
may take longer or sooner than expected to see another onset of
flowers.  

                            Stefan Lura
                            klura@ix.netcom.com


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From: petor@texas.snafu.de (Peter Hein)
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Hi there!

Can any tell me who to store tree seeds (European tree seeds, I live in  
Germany) best and when to sow them?

Thanks.....Petor

Petor@texas.snafu.de
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Does anyone know something about the Trifolium pratense with leaves consisting
of four parts? Is it a mutant individuum? What is the reason for making four
parts? How many percent of the trefoil plants do so?
--- OffRoad 1.0 registered to Christian Winter



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Hi, my e-mail is ted.fishton@hortus.bc.ca I will try to find some info on
Polylepis, but in the meantime could you give me any addresses for seed and
bulb sources of native plants in Chile? Thank you very much!

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From: Kevin Parks <100616.1401@CompuServe.COM>
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I just got a umbrella tree.  It need repotting so I did.  I water 
it and spray it often.  It doesn't have any bugs, but its leaves 
have brown spots and then they fall off.  Any suggestion please 
E-mail me.  Thanks  Kevin

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From: nealscomp@aol.com (NEALSCOMP)
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Post-doctoral Position / Plant Transformation

DNA Plant Technology Corporation has  an immediate opening in their
Vegetable
Tissue Culture Group for an experienced scientist to work on  dicot
transformation.   Current research is in the development of transformation
systems in a variety of vegetable crops and the production of new
transgenic
lines for commercial release.   Candidates must have transformation
experience
using Agrobacterium, preferably in the development or trouble shooting of
transformation protocols.  Experience with the tissue culture and
transformation
of tomato and/or strawberry would be valuable.  
DNAP offers an excellent compensation and benefits package which includes
stock incentives.  Candidates should send a resume with three references
to:  Dr
Alison Morgan, DNA Plant Technology Corp., 6701 San Pablo Avenue, Oakland,
CA 94608.
 An EOE.

FAX:    510-547-2817 
e-mail:  morgan@dnap.com

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From: boycandy@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Peter J Verrecclua)
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Subject: Desperately Seeking Miscletoe
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A friend of mine is in need of a living miscletoe plant for a religious 
ritual.  Does anyone know where he can find one?  Old English Miscletoe 
(viscum album, family loranthoraceae) is prefered but American Miscletoe 
would be OK (phoradendron serotium).  We live in Philadelphia (USA).  If 
anyone has info that would help, please e-mail.  Thanks!

Peter Verrecchia
1343 Lombard St.
Phila., PA 19147     



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From: ly@IRIS.LSC.PKU.EDU.CN (Ding Shiyou)
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To whom it may concern:

I will finish my two years postdoctoral research at The National Laboratory
of Protein Engineering and Plant Genetic Engineering(NLPE&PGE), Peking
University, next year.I would like to find a position where I can work  on a
project more closely related to molecular evolution. I have extensive
hands-on experience both in modern molecular biology and biosystematics.
If you need more information, please let me know 
Phone: (86)10-2501862, e-mail: dsy@ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn.
Thank you for reading this massage and for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Ding Shiyou

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                       CURRICULUM  VITAE

                       DING SHIYOU  Ph.D.
   National Laboratory of Protein Engineering and Plant Genetic Engineering
              College of Life Sciences, Peking University
                    Beijing 100871, P. R. CHINA
             E-mail address: dsy@ibm320h.phy.pku.edu.cn
                 Tel: 2501862  Fax: 0086-10-2501844

Nationality: P. R. China        Date of Birth: June 4, 1966
Marital Status: Married		Sex: Male		

                              CURRENT WORK
1. Ancient DNA
   18s ribosomal DNA sequences (partial) and Cytochrome B gene sequences
   (partial) have been amplified from a specific fossilized dinosaur egg
   of Late Cretaceous and from an amber bee by using PCR. I am going to
   identfy those sequences. One paper about cytochrome b gene sequences
   amplified from dinosaur egg have been submmited to Science (USA).
2. Molecular systematics of Astragalinae (Legumenosae)
   I continue my Ph.D. thesis research, phylogenetic study on subtribe
   Astragalinae(Legumenosae) using restriction site mapping of a
   PCR-amplified fragment that encompassed cpDNA genes ndhF and
   psbA, and investigate the popuation variation of the genera
   Caragana and Gueldenstaedtia.


WORKING EXPERIENCE:
1994 - present: Postdoctoral fellow in the National Laboratory of Protein
                Engineering and Plant Genetic Engineering, College of Life
                Sciences, Peking University.
1993 - 1994:    Visiting Researcher in the National Laboratory of Protein
                Engineering and Plant Genetic Engineering, College of Life
                Sciences, Peking University.
1989 - 1991:    Research Associate in the Northwestern Institute of Botany,
                Academia Sinica.

TECHNICAL SKILLS:
collection and identification of plant specimen, related skills of plant
anatomy and phytogeography, plant breeding,DNA and RNA extraction,
purification, enzymatic manipulation of nucleic acid,electrophoresis of
nucleic acid and protein, RFLP, PCR, RAPD, cloning,sequencing, southern
bloting, radioactive techniques, computer programs of phylogenetic analysis,
PAUP, PHYLIP, DNASIS, ANA, MULTALIN, EMBLbank,GENEbank, FASTA, Internet ......

EDUCATION:
Ph.D.   Molecular systematics of plant, Kunming Institute of Botany, Academia
        Sinica, Yunnan, PRC, 1994. Thesis Title: Systematic Study of
        Subtribe Galegeae-Astragalinae(Leguminosae).
        Supervisor: Wu, Zheng-yih, Academician, Professor;
                    Gu, Hong-ya, Ph.D. Professor
M.S.    Plant Systematics, Northwestern Institute of Botany, Academia Sinica,
        Shaanxi, PRC, 1989. Thesis Title: Systematic Study of Staphyleaceae.
        Supervisor: Yu, Zhao-yin, Professor.
B.S.    Biology, Anhui Normal University, Anhui, PRC, 1986.

GRANTS:
National Natural Science Foundation of China, 1989-91, 1993-94.
Director Grant, Kunming Institute of Botany, 1993-94.
Research Grant, National Laboratory of Protein Engineering and Plant Genetic
  Engineering, Peking University, 1993-94.

PUBLICATIONS
1. Ding, Shiyou, Hongya Gu, Lijia Qu, Zhangliang Chen. A preliminary study on
   the use of RFLP analysis of the PCR amplified products in the systematic
   investigation of the subtribe Astragalinae (Fabaceae). Acta Bot. Sin. 1995,
   37(2):97-102.
2. Ding, Shiyou. Systematic position of genus Tapiscia (Tapisciaceae). The 2nd
   Symposium of Kunming Institute of Botany, 1994.
3. Chen, Yansheng, Chunlin Zhang, Shiyou Ding, Zhenwan Zhang. The taxonomy and
   analysis of Artemisia Linn. in the Loess Plateau of northern Shaanxi. Acta
   Bot. Boreal.-Occident. Sin. 1993, 13(3):238-245.
4. Ding, Shiyou, Zhaoyin Yu. Systematic signification of leaf stricture of
   Staphyleaceae. Bull. Bot. 1992, 12(2):177-184.
5. Ding, Shiyou, Zhaoyin Yu. The preliminary study on chemical taxonomy of
   Staphyleceae. The 1st Symposium of Systematic Botany in Northwestern China.
   1992, 108-111.
6. Zhang, Zhenwan, Zhunlin Zhang, Yansheng Chen, Shiyou Ding. A preliminary
   study in the border line of the floristic regionalization in the Loess
   Plateau of northern Shaanxi. Acta Bot. Boreal.-Occident. Sin. 1992, 12(4):
   303-308.
7. Zhang, Yuejian, Shiyou Ding. A resource of nectariferous plants in Shaanxi.
   Acta Bot. Boreal.-Occdent. Sin. 1991, 11(5):185-189.
8. Ding, Shiyou, Yuejian Zhang. The conservation plants in northwestern China,
   Ecological Environment in Northwestern China. 1991, 1:353-364.
9. Zhang, Zhenwan, Chunlin Zhang, Shiyou Ding. Plants in the Loess Plateau.
   In, The Resource and Application of Plants in the Loess Plateau. 1991,
   194-287.
10. Ding, Shiyou, Zhaoyin Yu. Study on the pollen of Staphyleaceae. Acta Bot.
    Boreal.-Occdent. Sin. 1988, 8(5): 29-33.
11. Ding, Shiyou et al. (coeditor) Seed Plants and Floristic Regionalization
    in Northern China. Science Press (in press).
12. Ding, Shiyou, Chunlin Zhang, Hongya Gu, Zhangliang Chen. Progresses of
    studies on plant systematics at DNA level. J. Basic Sci. Engin.(submitted)
13. Ding, Shiyou, Chunlin Zhang, Hongya Gu, Zhangliang Chen. General review of
    the methods of molecular systematics of plants at DNA level. J. Basic Sci.
    Engin. (submitted)
14. An, Chengcai, Yi Li, Shiyou Ding, Hongya Gu, Zhangliang Chen et al.
    Cytochrome B gene from a fossilized dinosaur egg in Cretaceous period.
    Science (USA) (submitted).
15. Ding, Shiyou, Zhunlian Zhang, Hongya Gu, Zhangliang Chen. Variation in the
    chloroplast genes ndhF and psbA of the subtribe Galegeae-Astragalinae
    (Leguminosae): evidence from restriction site mapping of PCR-amplified
    fragment (in preparation).



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From: cosman@acs.ucalgary.ca (Steve Cosman)
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Subject: Cycad sources
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Hi Guys:

Does anyone know of *any* breeders or dealers who mightx care to export
afew Cycads to Canada?

Steve				cosman@acs.ucalgary.ca

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From: reikirk@ksu.ksu.edu (Bob Kirk)
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Subject: Re: Oak tissue-culture question
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klura@ix.netcom.com (Keith Lura) writes:
>    I would greatly appreciate learning about any information related
>to the tissue-culturing of oaks.  I have learned that a growth medium
>based upon cornstarch instead of expensive seaweed agar has had better
>results with propogation of such plants as apple trees which are said
>to be rather difficult;  perhaps this would hold true for members of
>the genus Quercus as well.  Many, many thanks in advance for any
>knowledge that can be passed on.
>                                          Stefan Lura

   Sudeep Vyapari (working with H. Khatamian of the Dept. of Hort. here at
Kansas State) did his doctoral thesis on this a few years ago. As I recall,
he studied chinkapin & maybe red oak and managed to obtain somatic embryos,
etc. As usual the sticking point was regeneration of actual plants.
   Neither of them is currently working on this, but Sudeep is now with the
Dept. of Plant Science at Sam Houston State University in Huntsville, Texas.
Can't get into their Gopher and the WWW site is useless as most, but if you
can get in touch with him (area code 409 if that helps), he might be able
to direct you further. He did mention other people were studying the problem
at that time, and perhaps more progress has been made.
   Be warned, though, this is not a trivial task, and in fact relatively
few hardwood trees have ever been successfully tissue cultured - let alone
had protocols determined for doing so.

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Subject: Sugar Plant...
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This past summer I went on a tour of the Crystal Bridge Conservatory here
in Oklahoma City and I was introduced to a very interesting plant.  It was
a large bush/tree with cherry sized black berries and white flesh.  The
guide plucked a few off for us to try and told us that they were very high
in sugar content and if you ate three or four then whatever you ate for
the next hour would be affected by the sugar and taste sweet.  I only ate
one, so I didn't notice this effect, but they were delicious berries.  

The guide also told us that some private investors had attempted to market
this as a sugar substitute for diabetics but their efforts were sabotaged
by the sugar industry.  How sad.  Anyway, if anyone has any idea as to
what this plant is, let me know.  Even better, let me know where to get
the plant or seeds.  The guide wasn't sure because there was some kind of
discrepancy in the placard labeling the plant.

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From: tconley@BIOSCI.MBP.MISSOURI.EDU (Terry Conley)
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Date: 8 Oct 1995 09:06:03 -0700
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Dear Plant-Biology "Netters"

        Lately I find my electronic mailbox filled with multiple replies to
questions that have been posted on the 'net, for example, the recent
question regarding the meaning of "cv." and the many replies to questions
asking for information on the "care and feeding" of houseplants.

        I would like to suggest that such replies be made directly to the
person posting the question, rather than to the 'net as a whole.
Certainly, if the question is on a subject that is of general interest to
the plant biology group, the replier could always ask that the replies be
compiled and posted as a summary of responses.

        Thanks for your consideration.







Terry R. Conley
Biological Sciences
110 Tucker Hall
University of Missouri
Columbia MO 65211
Tel 314-882-3184
Fax 314-882-0123
E-mail tconley@biosci.mbp.missouri.edu



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_Quercus_virginiana_, Live oak is evergreen south of Virginia.  However, 
to the north of North Carolina, it is a deciduous tree.

Maybe this helps too?



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In article <atahualpa-0710952147490001@cate0-18.reshall.uoknor.edu>, 
atahualpa@eworld.com says...
>
>This past summer I went on a tour of the Crystal Bridge Conservatory 
here
>in Oklahoma City and I was introduced to a very interesting plant.  It 
was
>a large bush/tree with cherry sized black berries and white flesh.  The
>guide plucked a few off for us to try and told us that they were very 
high
>in sugar content and if you ate three or four then whatever you ate for
>the next hour would be affected by the sugar and taste sweet.  I only 
ate
>one, so I didn't notice this effect, but they were delicious berries.  
>
>The guide also told us that some private investors had attempted to 
market
>this as a sugar substitute for diabetics but their efforts were 
sabotaged
>by the sugar industry.  How sad.  Anyway, if anyone has any idea as to
>what this plant is, let me know.  Even better, let me know where to get
>the plant or seeds.  The guide wasn't sure because there was some kind 
of
>discrepancy in the placard labeling the plant.

The plant you're describing sounds like "Miracle Fruit".  A bushy/tree 
like plant that has ovoid shaped berries, reddish or purplish in color 
with one large seed.  Flowers ar small creamy colored with russet haired 
sepals.  It was found in tropical Africa and brought into cultivation by 
David Fairchild in 1919 when he tasted it for the first time and didn't 
think much about them but when he noticed the effect he sent seeds back 
to the US.

The fruit numbs or "masks" to sour taste-buds so it leaves you to taste 
only sweet things.  Its called Synsepalum dulcificum.  Full size 15 ft.
I dont have any specific cultivation information as it is rather rare 
here too (Hawaii).  I see it for sale on certain occaisions but never 
bother to plant one because I dont have room for some big bush.  I'd like 
to try a berry first.

You could obtain seeds from:

The Banana Tree, Inc.
715 Northampton St.
Easton, PA  18042

seeds are sold one per a packet.  I say get at least two because they 
might need to pollenate each other.


From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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From: sfj3212@tam2000.tamu.edu (Sarah Fox Jahn)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: What the heck is "Awapuhi"?
Date: 8 Oct 1995 05:15:23 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from misc.health.alternative ]
[ Author was Sarah Fox Jahn ]
[ Posted on 8 Oct 1995 04:39:51 GMT ]

Hi all... 

I am just curious what Awapuhi is. I recently bought a multi-
purpose conditioner with this in it, and was wondering if anyone 
on here might be able to tell me a bit about it :) 

Couldn't find it in any plant books or dictionaries here in my 
apt. 

If this is the wrong group, just push me in the right direction :) 

Thanks for any info!
Sarah Fox Jahn


From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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From: bosborne@NATURE.BERKELEY.EDU (Brian Osborne)
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>Dear Plant-Biology "Netters"
>
>        Lately I find my electronic mailbox filled with multiple replies to
>questions that have been posted on the 'net, for example, the recent
>question regarding the meaning of "cv." and the many replies to questions
>asking for information on the "care and feeding" of houseplants.
>
>        I would like to suggest that such replies be made directly to the
>person posting the question, rather than to the 'net as a whole.
>Certainly, if the question is on a subject that is of general interest to
>the plant biology group, the replier could always ask that the replies be
>compiled and posted as a summary of responses.
>
>        Thanks for your consideration.
>


To the group,

I respectfully offer my differing opinion. Certainly in the instance of
the definition of the term 'cv', in which many or most of our members know
the single straightforward answer, the redundancy serves little purpose.
However, often our members offer different answers, or an online discussion
will ensue. I would hope that these exchanges are enlightening to other
readers of this group besides myself. In fact, I view this group as a type
of forum, in which many ideas are made public.

If too much of the traffic is deemed irrelevant there are solutions. One,
suggest the creation of a group with a more specific interest than
'plant biology', which is certainly a broad topic. Second, use a mail-
reader with 'filters', in which any letter with a particular word is sent
directly to the trash. These are available for all of the most popular
computer platforms.

My difficulty with suggesting summaries of responses is that I don't believe
many will actually do it. I have indeed made this request of individuals
when I responded to a query, to never hear from the individual again!


Brian I. Osborne                bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
Plant Gene Expression Center    FAX 510 559 5718
800 Buchanan St.                TEL 510 559 5919
Albany CA 94710 USA             http://pgebaker4.pw.usda.gov/bio/bio.html



From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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From: Mark Hibbert <hibbert@mcs.com>
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Subject: Re: help--Ginkgo biloba L.
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In Article<DG1FLL.1o8@blaze.trentu.ca>, <pmiles@ivory.trentu.ca> 
write:
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> From: pmiles@ivory.trentu.ca (pmiles)
> Subject: help--Ginkgo biloba L.
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> 
> Hello, I'm an undergrad at Trent University, Canada hoping to get 
help, 
> advice and/or direction about the past and present distribution of 
Ginkgo 
> biloba L.. I have searched cd-rom and biological abstracts without 
much 
> luck, there doesn't seem to be an over-abundance of material out 
there.  I 
> am aware that wild populations of Ginkgo trees are few and far 
between but 
> was that always the case?  Thanks, Phoebe Miles 
(in%"pmiles@trentu.ca")

Pheobe,

I don't know how much info you've gathered so far but i have few 
basics from _National_Audubon_Society_Field_Guide_to_North_American_ 
Trees_.

The tree is also called a "Maidenhair-tree". That might help in 
searches. 

It seems to have been a native of South East China and has been 
introduced to North America on the Pacific Coast and Eastern United 
States.

If you want the full text (a page) of the description, habitat and 
comments from the book email me at hibbert@mcs.com .



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From: "Roger B. Blumberg" <Roger_Blumberg@brown.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.general,bionet.plants
Subject: MendelWeb 95.2
Date: 8 Oct 1995 20:14:33 GMT
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The second edition of MendelWeb (95.2) is now available at Netspace
(http://www.netspace.org/MendelWeb/) and the University of Washington
at Seattle (http://www-hpcc.astro.washington.edu/mirrors/MendelWeb/). 
Additions include the 1992 essay, first published in GENETICS, by
Hartl and Orel, "What Did Mendel Think He Discovered?"; as well as 
an expanded bibliography and list of articles related to Mendel and
his work.


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From: d_micro@ix.netcom.com (Michael L Roginsky )
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In <atahualpa-0710952147490001@cate0-18.reshall.uoknor.edu>
atahualpa@eworld.com writes: 
>
>This past summer I went on a tour of the Crystal Bridge Conservatory
here
>in Oklahoma City and I was introduced to a very interesting plant.  It
was
>a large bush/tree with cherry sized black berries and white flesh. 
The
>guide plucked a few off for us to try and told us that they were very
high
>in sugar content and if you ate three or four then whatever you ate
for
>the next hour would be affected by the sugar and taste sweet.  I only
ate
>one, so I didn't notice this effect, but they were delicious berries. 

>
>The guide also told us that some private investors had attempted to
market
>this as a sugar substitute for diabetics but their efforts were
sabotaged
>by the sugar industry.  How sad.  Anyway, if anyone has any idea as to
>what this plant is, let me know.  Even better, let me know where to
get
>the plant or seeds.  The guide wasn't sure because there was some kind
of
>discrepancy in the placard labeling the plant.

>>>Sounds like "gurumichama", a tree that grows in the Amazon. I
>>>have no idea that its sugar content is other than plain fructose.
>>>If you can look-up a guide on native plants of the Amazon, you
>>>might get the info you are looking for. They are (fruit) DELICIOUS!

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From: d_micro@ix.netcom.com (Michael L Roginsky )
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Re: Green Tomatoes
Date: 8 Oct 1995 16:43:30 GMT
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In <DG1K0H.Ep3@cix.compulink.co.uk> rwarner@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Ray
Warner") writes: 
>
>Can anyone tell me just how poisonous green tomatoes are, or is it
just a 
>myth? Regards Ray Warner
>>>>Fried green tomatoes are a delicacy in the South. The tomato and
>>>>tomatillo belong a family of poisonous plants, including potatoes.
>>>>They are of the genus "nightshade" and their foliage is poisonous
>>>>to humans. Try slicing your gren tomatoes, placing them in a batter
>>>>of milk and eggs, or any other kind, dump them on bread crumbs or
>>>>cornmeal and fry them using butter, margarine, or any vegetable
>>>>oil. They taste great....................Enjoy!

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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From: colin@pondside.uchicago.edu (Colin Purrington)
Subject: Re: Discussion groups on risk assessment of transgenic plants ??
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Here are some options:


>    http://www.aphis.usda.gov/bbep/bp/
Status of U.S. biotechnology regulation (you can even send comments to the
U.S. government on proposed rule changes), also includes current
information on which genetically modified crops are officially exempted
from further regulation.



>    http://www.scicomm.org.uk/biosis/
For electronic discussion of biotechnology issues.



I'd also suggest the US National Agricultural Library link page, which has
several sites of relevance: 
>   http://inform.umd.edu:86/EdRes/Topic/AgrEnv/Biotech/.www.html



If you want biotechnology gossip:

> 2. Biotechnology Bulletin          env.biotech@conf.igc.apc.org  OR
>                                    mthom@igc.org
>      send message to mthom@igc.org           
>
> 3. Biotech Education & Public Policy Network - BCEPP        
>                     Mail to: BCEPP@relay.adp.wisc.edu
>                     Subscribe to: listserver@relay.adp.wisc.edu
>                     send message: SUBSCRIBE BCEPP 
>
> 5. British Council Biotech    bcifunit@solomon.technet.sg
>      send message:  ADD BCINFO-BIOTECH 
>
> 7. Chinese Biotech. Network (CBNet)     Listserv@UCSD.Edu
>                          send message: Add CB-Net.
>
> 9. IRRO             For more information contact: 
>                     msdn@phx.cam.uk 
> Information Resource for the Release of  Organisms into the Environment
> (IRRO) is an information network run on a non-profit basis, which aims to
> provide access to all types of information relevant to the release of animals,
> plants, and microorganisms into the environment.  Supported through UNEP
> (UN Environment Programme).  Network access not yet defined.
> 
> 10. Rice Biotech Network        rbnet@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>         Send request for info. to dverma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu



There are also a few Listservs out there:

> Listservs are special interest groups where questions or issues are sent
> to the group via e-mail.  Members of the group discuss the topic while all
> members observe the dialog.  Some lists are more active that others.  To
> join a listserv you must first subscribe to the group. 
> 
> TO SUBSCRIBE to most of the groups below send a message to
> listserv@ containing  the command:
>      "SUB" or "SUBSCRIBE"    
>      in the body of the message. 
> 
> Example for BIOTECH:     To: listserv@UMDD.umd.edu
>                          Subject:
>                          ------------------------------------------------
>                          SUBSCRIBE BIOTECH Al Helix
> 
> 
> LIST NAME      ADDRESS             TOPIC/FOCUS
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> BIOTECH*  biotech@UMDD.umd.edu     Biotechnology Discussion List
> NEWCROPS  NEWCROPS@PURCCVM.BITNET  Discussion list for New Crops




Colin Purrington
Department of Ecology and Evolution
University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th Street, Chicago, IL  60637 USA
colin@pondside.uchicago.edu

From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Oct 07 23:00:00 1995
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From: d_micro@ix.netcom.com (Michael L Roginsky )
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Re: Desperately Seeking Miscletoe
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In <457339$db7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> boycandy@astro.ocis.temple.edu
(Peter J Verrecclua) writes: 
>
>A friend of mine is in need of a living miscletoe plant for a
religious 
>ritual.  Does anyone know where he can find one?  Old English
Miscletoe 
>(viscum album, family loranthoraceae) is prefered but American
Miscletoe 
>would be OK (phoradendron serotium).  We live in Philadelphia (USA). 
If 
>anyone has info that would help, please e-mail.  Thanks!
>
>Peter Verrecchia
>1343 Lombard St.
>Phila., PA 19147     
>
>>>>Miscletoe is a parasite plant growing on oak trees in a wide
>>>>range of the southern US. Beware that the berries are poisonous.



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From: hf5@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Frank J. Diers)
Newsgroups: bionet.plants
Subject: Discussion groups