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Order a valid International Driver's License that can never be suspended or revoked. Confidentiality assured. CALL NOW!!! 1-937-586-9313 From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 10:14:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!RMplc!rmplc.co.uk!yama.mcc.ac.uk!hydraulix.bangor.ac.uk!manager From: "J.Rowlands" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: 'Cloning' and ageing Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:59:12 +0100 Organization: University of Wales, Bangor. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: osspc13153.bangor.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Hello all, An interesting conversation started between me and my partner over dinner last night. Recent reports say thats Dolly (the cloned sheep), seems to have 'inherited' shortened telomeres from its ageing mother. What's the situation with plants grown from cuttings; do they also inherit information about their cells being older than the cutting's existence as a full plant? In other words, does taking a plant cutting reset the age counter, or not? Many thanks for any enlightenment you can provide! Cheers, -- ------------ J.Rowlands oss004@bangor.ac.uk From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 12:00:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.uow.edu.au!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!csiro!news From: "roger morton" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: 'Cloning' and ageing Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:44:20 +1000 Organization: C.S.I.R.O Australia Lines: 14 Message-ID: <7j0kn5$dhs@gutter.its.csiro.au> References: <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial211.pi.csiro.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 J.Rowlands wrote in message <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk>... >Recent reports say thats Dolly (the cloned sheep), seems to have >'inherited' shortened telomeres from its ageing mother. What's the >situation with plants grown from cuttings; do they also inherit information >about their cells being older than the cutting's existence as a full plant? >In other words, does taking a plant cutting reset the age counter, or not? Damn good question that. Arne't there a lot of fruit varieties that have been propogated by cuttings for hundreds of years. I wonder how their telomers stay intact? From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 13:39:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news-feeds.jump.net!solomon.io.com!news.tamu.edu!not-for-mail From: Monique Reed Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: 'Cloning' and ageing in plants Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 09:26:25 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 41 Message-ID: <3753ED91.60C672F7@bio.tamu.edu> References: <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.bio.tamu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jun 1999 14:20:14 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) On the one hand, most plants seem to be able to be propagated from cuttings more or less indefinitely. For example, if you look at any of the seedless grapes or oranges of one cultivar, or any named clonal African violet or geranium, etc., they're all descendants of the one original parent or a plant grown from a cutting of that parent, etc. There seems to be no loss of genetic information and little, if any, "drift" away from the original plant. This is the whole reason why you can obtain and enforce a plant patent. On the other hand, some information about age does appear to transfer, at least in some species. Example: citrus plants can take years to flower and fruit. Almost all commercial citrus varieties are grown from buds or cuttings. It has been demonstrated that if the bud or cutting comes from higher off the stock plant, it somehow thinks of itself as "older" and will produce a little faster than material taken from low on the stock plant. (This is sort of backwards, since the top part of a plant is newer than the bottom, but apparently the plant "figures" that if it has gotten four feet off the ground already, it must be a certain age...) Monique Reed J.Rowlands wrote: > > Hello all, > > An interesting conversation started between me and my partner over dinner > last night. > > Recent reports say thats Dolly (the cloned sheep), seems to have > 'inherited' shortened telomeres from its ageing mother. What's the > situation with plants grown from cuttings; do they also inherit information > about their cells being older than the cutting's existence as a full plant? > In other words, does taking a plant cutting reset the age counter, or not? > > Many thanks for any enlightenment you can provide! > > Cheers, > -- > ------------ > J.Rowlands oss004@bangor.ac.uk From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 13:50:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.belnet.be!nntp.ulg.ac.be!news From: "Frédéric Rabecki" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: freeze dried flowers Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 16:36:08 +0200 Organization: Université de Liège Lines: 10 Message-ID: <7j0rak$i5m@aix4.segi.ulg.ac.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.csl.ulg.ac.be X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 I'll like to make freeze dried flowers. But after freeze drying, flowers are finished drying and are very fragile. I read somewhere there is a "special solution" which gives the flowers greater flexibility, enhances their natural beauty and prevents breakage of the petals. Do you have a idea about the nature of this "special solution" (glycol polyethylene?) ? From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 13:54:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!uninett.no!news.net.uni-c.dk!newsfeed.sunet.se!news01.sunet.se!news99.sunet.se!umdac!umu.se!Jarmo.Schrader From: Jarmo.Schrader@genfys.slu.se (Jarmo Schrader) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: 'Cloning' and ageing Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 16:30:50 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk> <7j0kn5$dhs@gutter.its.csiro.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: d177.genfys.slu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: hudsucker.umdc.umu.se 928247376 1488 193.10.100.177 (1 Jun 1999 14:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@umu.se NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jun 1999 14:29:36 GMT X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4.4 In article <7j0kn5$dhs@gutter.its.csiro.au>, "roger morton" wrote: > J.Rowlands wrote in message <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk>... > >Recent reports say thats Dolly (the cloned sheep), seems to have > >'inherited' shortened telomeres from its ageing mother. What's the > >situation with plants grown from cuttings; do they also inherit information > >about their cells being older than the cutting's existence as a full plant? > >In other words, does taking a plant cutting reset the age counter, or not? I think here we have a general difference between plants and animals, for many plant species vegetative propagation is a completely natural thing, for some even the only way, so they obviously do not need the telemere clock. Just thought of those bamboo that flower every 100 years or so and die afterwards. Could there be a connection? Jarmo -- Jarmo Schrader Umea, Sweden Jarmo.Schrader@genfys.slu.se From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 16:55:00 1999 From: dennis_goos@mindlink.net (Dennis G.) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: 'Cloning' and ageing Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:49:07 GMT Distribution: x-no archive: yes Reply-To: dennis_goos@mindlink.net Message-ID: <3754154a.49558690@news.paralynx.com> References: <3753BD00.E9C0F78F@bangor.ac.uk> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: l007.abb.dial.paralynx.net X-Trace: fountain.mindlink.net 928259213 28980 204.174.29.135 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.vphos.net!paralynx!paralynx-1!204.174.16.2.MISMATCH!paralynx!paralynx-2!127.0.0.1.MISMATCH!not-for-mail "J.Rowlands" wrote: >Recent reports say thats Dolly (the cloned sheep), seems to have >'inherited' shortened telomeres from its ageing mother. What's the >situation with plants grown from cuttings; do they also inherit information >about their cells being older than the cutting's existence as a full plant? >In other words, does taking a plant cutting reset the age counter, or not? > The cutting produces a plant with the characteristics of the stock plant . 'Age' characteristics may be part of that. An easy experiment for most people in temperate climates with Hedera helix(English Ivy) available can readily try it out in 6-8 weeks. An 'aged' branch or stem of H. helix will have leaves with muted 'points';a juvenile plant will have noticeably sharper points on the leaves. A cutting rooted from the older plant will produce leaves with 'muted' points :a cutting from the juvenile form will produce juvenile leaves. Variation in characteristics other than age may be carried foward through cutting propagation as well. E.G. a cutting from a lateral branch tip may produce a plant that will not grow straight up whereas a cutting made from the growing tip will produce a plant that grows straight up with a strong leader. The so-called 'juvenility' of stock used to make cuttings is also often important in the rate of successful rooting but this type of juvenility refers more to the proximity of the cutting material to the roots of the stock material than to the age of the stock . In commercial production of plants through cuttings, I have found a wide variety of factors have influence over a wide variety of cultivars and that age can be one of those factors. As to the question of resetting the age counter, my guess is the answer is the cutting cannot do so but that in a practical application this may be a positve attribute. Dennis From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 17:39:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.atl!remarQ60!supernews.com!remarQ.com!iquest!news1.iquest.net!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Gary Lee Calvert" From: "Gary Lee Calvert" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Searching for information on a cactus plant? Please Lines: 22 Organization: WB9SMX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Message-ID: <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:29:58 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.43.17.79 X-Trace: news1.iquest.net 928261885 209.43.17.79 (Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:31:25 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 13:31:25 EDT Can any one help me identify this cactus/cacti?? It/they were given to my Son by a fraternity brother who was moving away. I took on the task of finding some information about it/them and to see if I could find out how to go about transplanting and/or dividing these if needed. Water and plant food requirements. The pot it/they are currently in is about 4 inches across and 4 inches high. I have a picture of these at the URL link below. http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/images/cactus.JPG I tried looking around on the web, but a name for them seems to be needed to find any information on the sites I found. Thanks for any help. -- Gary Calvert mailto:gcalvert@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/home.html From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 01 18:02:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!skynet.be!newscon05!prodigy.com!not-for-mail From: "Stephen M Jankalski" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Searching for information on a cactus plant? Please Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:56:36 GMT Organization: Prodigy Communications Corp Lines: 81 Message-ID: <01beac61$d5926960$90899cd1@default> References: <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: laurb105-06.splitrock.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BEAC40.4E80C960" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com 928263396 2794690 209.156.137.144 (1 Jun 1999 18:56:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jun 1999 18:56:36 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BEAC40.4E80C960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Gary, Your plant is Echinopsis tubiflora, commonly called the "Easter Lily Cactus" because of its large white night blooming flowers. Try this link for info on how to grow Echinopsis. http://henry.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/Schick/Introduction.htm Cereusly Steve ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gary Lee Calvert wrote in article <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net>... > Can any one help me identify this cactus/cacti?? > It/they were given to my Son by a fraternity brother who was moving away. > I took on the task of finding some information about it/them and to see if > I could find out how to go about transplanting and/or dividing these if > needed. > Water and plant food requirements. > The pot it/they are currently in is about 4 inches across and 4 inches high. > I have a picture of these at the URL link below. > > http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/images/cactus.JPG > > I tried looking around on the web, but a name for them seems to be needed > to find any information on the sites I found. > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > Gary Calvert > mailto:gcalvert@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/home.html > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BEAC40.4E80C960 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Gary,

Your plant is = Echinopsis tubiflora, commonly called the "Easter Lily Cactus" = because of its large white night blooming flowers.

Try this link = for info on how to grow Echinopsis.
http://henry.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/Schick/Introdu= ction.htm

Cereusly = Steve

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Gary Lee = Calvert <gcalvert@iquest.net> wrote in article <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net>...
> Can any one help me identify this = cactus/cacti??
> It/they were given to my Son by a fraternity = brother who was moving away.
> I took on the task of finding some = information about it/them and to see if
> I could find out how to = go about transplanting and/or dividing these if
> needed.
> = Water and plant food requirements.
> The pot it/they are currently = in is about 4 inches across and 4 inches high.
> I have a picture = of these at the URL link below.
>
> http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/images/cactus.JPG
>
> I tried looking around on the = web, but a name for them seems to be needed
> to find any = information on the sites I found.
>
> Thanks for any = help.
>
> --
> Gary Calvert
> mailto:gcalvert@iquest.net  http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/home.html
>
>
>
>

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Newsgroups: alt.agriculture,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.bbs.beeline,alt.hobbies.beekeeping,bionet.plants Organization: privat Message-ID: <01beac70$89488b20$354636d4@bek> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:47:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.54.70.53 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@image.dk X-Trace: news030.image.dk 928270063 212.54.70.53 (Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:47:43 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:47:43 MET DST Lines: 29 Dear Reader I am currently investigating the following, unfortunately very difficult, questions: 1. If I have short-rotation coppicing (SRC) willow that is harvested every 2 to 4 years, what is the amount of pollen that male willow plants would produce during early spring (like grams per flower per day and how many flowering days can I count on)? 2. How much of this pollen could be harvested by bee families? 3. 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Lines: 3 Message-ID: <928287406.505.27@news.remarQ.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.137.186.218 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 01:36:46 GMT X-Trace: 928287406.505.27 ZZYOAESJWBADACE89C qube-01.us-ca.remarq.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@remarQ.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Turn in to a square branches, e-mail back if interested wildchild@adnet,net please From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 01:19:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ptah.visi.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: bionet.plants From: dlarson@citi-link.com Subject: Re: Ramfang anyone? Reply-To: dlarson@citi-link.com References: <3_E23.787$j65.118371@ptah.visi.com> <7in28s$l12$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Lines: 22 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 02:14:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.98.9.56 X-Complaints-To: abuse@citilink.com X-Trace: ptah.visi.com 928289645 209.98.9.56 (Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:14:05 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 21:14:05 CDT In <7in28s$l12$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "abacusnurseries.freeserve.co,uk" writes: >You say it grew back this spring, do you mean the leaves or did the plant >die back to the ground over winter.? It grew back this spring from the roots in the ground. No parts of the plant remained over the winter. I am in Minnesota, USA. The plant is native to Iceland. The leaves are long and fern-like, but the actuall pattern to the leaf looks more like a carrot leaf. It is *not* a fern. The previous owner was a native of Iceland and told me what I know about it. She said it also small flowers but they have not bloomed yet. This plant really *does* smell like mint or catnip but looks nothing like either. Dan From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 02:04:00 1999 From: "Laboratorio de Stress em Plantas" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: WORKSHOP -RECENT ADVANCES IN PLANT BIOLOGY, OPORTO, PORTUGAL, JULY 7-9 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:51:59 -0000 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 163 Message-ID: <7j1bvm$tan$1@khabala.ncc.up.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: plantaslab.ibmc.up.pt X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-ge.switch.ch!rccn.net!khagarin.porto.rccn.net!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!khabala.ncc.up.pt!not-for-mail WORKSHOP - RECENT ADVANCES IN PLANT BIOLOGY FROM STRESS AND OXYGEN RADICALS TO PROGRAMMED CELL DEATH AND SENESCENCE PORTO, PORTUGAL, JULY 7-9 Date : 7-9 July 1999 Site : IBMC - Institute for Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Porto Rua do Campo Alegre 823, 4150 Porto, Portugal Language : English Fee : 15 000 PTE (75 EUR), 8 000 PTE (40 EUR) for students (includes workshop notes, coffee-breaks and lunches) Group size: 40 to 50 participants (limited to auditorium capacity) Objectives In Plant Biology, the areas of Stress, Reactive Oxygen Intermediates, Programmed Cell Death and Senescence have emerged in recent years as some of the most exciting in the field, being also highly promising in terms of applied impact. The main objective of this workshop is to draw a united picture of current knowledge in these areas and to explore the links between them, trying to find new insights. The questions and experimental problems that should and may be addressed in the near future will be discussed, pointing out the trends of future investigation. This workshop also intends to put together experienced scientists with scientists who are willing to work in these new areas, encouraging the spread of the research effort in these areas and promoting the establishment of new collaborations. Instructions to submission of abstracts One page A4 format; margins 3 cm; font Times New Roman; letter size 12; paragraph 1.5; title in capital letters and in bold;. institutions, addresses and bibliography in letter size 10. Registration The deadline for registration and abstract submission is June 11. Payment should be done until June 30, after acknowledgement of registration acceptance. Payment in PTE or EUR should be made by bank transfer to Workshop inj Plant Biology, Account nº 001001352107323000172 (Swift code – BFYBPTPL135). Students should include the signature of the head of Department with the institutional stamp in the registration form. Accomodation 1 - Seminário do Vilar Rua Arcediago Van Zeller, 50, 4050-621 Porto Tel: + 351 (0)2 6000824 Fax: + 351 (0)2 6096276 Single room: 6500 PTE (32.4 EUR) - Double room: 4500 PTE (22.5 EUR) 2 - Hotel Ipanema Porto (****) Tel: + 351 (0)2 6068061 Single room: 15100 PTE (75.3 EUR) - Double room: 8550 PTE (42.6 EUR) Preliminary Program Day one 9.00 - 9.30 Registration and Welcome 9.30 - 10.30 Programed cell death during tracheary element differentiation involves a secreted protease A. Jones 10.30 - 11.00 Coffee break 11.00 - 12.00 Programmed cell death in the hypersensitive response R.I. Pennell 12.30 Lunch 14.00 - 15.00 Programmed cell death in systemic acquired resistance R.I. Pennell 15.00 - 16.00 Personal communications 16.00 - 16.30 Coffee break 16.30 - 17.30 Poster Session 19.00 Social program - Porto de Honra Day two 9.30 - 10.30 The role of H2O2 in oxidative stress in plants Dirk Inze 10.30 - 11.00 Coffee break 11.00 - 12.00 How does stress inhibit cell division in plants? Dirk Inze 12.30 Lunch 14.00 - 15.00 The role of ethylene in the regulation of senescence and abcission in plants. A. Bleeker 15.00 - 16.00 Personal communications 16.00 - 16.30 Coffee break 16.30 - 17.30 Open Discussion. Reactive Oxygen Intermediates - a danger or a bless? Day three 9.00 - 10.00 Genetic analysis of plant life cycle using Arabidopsis as a model A. Bleeker 10.00 - 10.30 Coffee break 10.30 - 11.30 Cell death and evolution P. Golstein 11.30 - 12.30 Open Discussion. Stress, plant cell death and senescence - what have they got to do with plant aging? 13.00 Farewell Lunch 14.30 Social programe - Touristic tour Invited Lecturers Alan Jones - Department of Biology, University of North Carolina, USA Anthony Bleeker - Department of Botany, Universoty of Wisconsin, USA Dirk Inze - Deparment of Genetics, University of Gent, Belgium Pierre Golstein - Centre d’Immunologie INSERM-CNRS de MArseille-Luminy, France Roger Pennell - Ceres, Inc., Malibu, USA REGISTRATION FORM Name: Address: Telephone: Fax: E-mail: Submission of: oral communication _ ; poster _ ; none _ Title: Accomodation: No _ ; Yes _ 1 - _ 2 - _ From_______to_________ Date: Signature: Registration / Information Department of Biology, University of North Carolina, USA IBMC, Universidade do Porto Rua do Campo Alegre 823, 4150 Porto, Portugal Tel.: +351 (0)2 6074900 – Fax: +351 (0)2 6099157 E-mail: plantlin@ibmc.up.pt From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 05:12:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!newsmangler.inet.tele.dQ!abrandt From: abrandt@ab.hjemme.dk (abrandt) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Ramfang anyone? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:00:27 +0200 Organization: Tele Danmark Internet Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <3_E23.787$j65.118371@ptah.visi.com> <7in28s$l12$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip233.boanxr6.ras.tele.dk X-Trace: news.inet.tele.dk 928303615 20666 195.249.163.233 (2 Jun 1999 06:06:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Department of Abuse NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jun 1999 06:06:55 GMT X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.5.2 UNIX) Perhaps you should have a look on the Compositae, Tanacetum vulgare. Its a 0.5- 1 m tall plant with 'carrot' like leaves and with a strong smell.The flowers are yellow-gold in color and small and composite. The plant is well known in Scandinavia. In danish it is called 'rejnfan' or 'regnfang' which litterally means 'catch rain'. In old times it was used as a remedy against, fleas, bed-bugs, moths etc. Anders > >I am in Minnesota, USA. The plant is native to Iceland. > >The leaves are long and fern-like, but the actuall >pattern to the leaf looks more like a carrot leaf. >It is *not* a fern. The previous owner was a native >of Iceland and told me what I know about it. She >said it also small flowers but they have not bloomed >yet. This plant really *does* smell like mint or catnip >but looks nothing like either. > >Dan From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 09:43:00 1999 From: rgw@office-futures.com (Roger Whitehead) Reply-To: rgw@office-futures.com Subject: Re: Ramfang anyone? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: References: Newsgroups: bionet.plants Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!arl-news-svc-4.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!nntp-nih2naae.prod2.compuserve.com Lines: 26 In article , abrandt@ab.hjemme.dk (abrandt) wrote: > Perhaps you should have a look on the Compositae, Tanacetum vulgare. [snip] Well done, Anders. The English name for this plant is Tansy. That fits the description very well except for the smell, which has always seemed to me more like creosote. Perhaps my nose doesn't work well! In the north of England it is used in cooking, especially in cakes and as an infusion, but only in moderation. Too much of it damages the liver. Although it is native to Europe, I understand it to have been introduced to Iceland. The Swedish name for it, by the way, is renfana. Regards, Roger - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Roger Whitehead, 14 Amy Road, Oxted, Surrey RH8 0PX, England Tel +44 (0)1883 713074 From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 11:50:00 1999 Path: biosci!pravda.ucr.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!128.32.206.55!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ73!remarQ60!supernews.com!remarQ.com!iquest!news1.iquest.net!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Gary Lee Calvert" From: "Gary Lee Calvert" Newsgroups: bionet.plants References: <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net> <01beac61$d5926960$90899cd1@default> Subject: Re: Searching for information on a cactus plant? Please Lines: 56 Organization: WB9SMX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Message-ID: <1H953.334$A4.1498@news1.iquest.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:43:12 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.43.17.167 X-Trace: news1.iquest.net 928327485 209.43.17.167 (Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:44:45 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 07:44:45 EDT Hey Thanks! I'll do some searching around the net now that I have a name for these. And I'll check out the site listed in your reply. Cheers -- Gary Lee Calvert ASM Troop 568 Kokomo P.O.Box 6353 Kokomo, Indiana 46904-6353 Scout site http://members.iquest.net/~gcalvert/scouts.html mailto:gcalvert@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/home.html Stephen M Jankalski wrote in message news:01beac61$d5926960$90899cd1@default... > Dear Gary, > > Your plant is Echinopsis tubiflora, commonly called the "Easter Lily > Cactus" because of its large white night blooming flowers. > > Try this link for info on how to grow Echinopsis. > http://henry.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/Schick/Introduction.htm > > Cereusly Steve > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Gary Lee Calvert wrote in article > <1GV43.308$A4.1216@news1.iquest.net>... > > Can any one help me identify this cactus/cacti?? > > It/they were given to my Son by a fraternity brother who was moving away. > > I took on the task of finding some information about it/them and to see > if > > I could find out how to go about transplanting and/or dividing these if > > needed. > > Water and plant food requirements. > > The pot it/they are currently in is about 4 inches across and 4 inches > high. > > I have a picture of these at the URL link below. > > > > http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/images/cactus.JPG > > > > I tried looking around on the web, but a name for them seems to be needed > > to find any information on the sites I found. > > > > Thanks for any help. > > > > -- > > Gary Calvert > > mailto:gcalvert@iquest.net http://www.iquest.net/~gcalvert/home.html > > > > > > > > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 15:55:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!feeder.qis.net!remarQ-easT!supernews.com!remarQ.com!skynet.be!poster!not-for-mail From: "Fiers-Vercruysse" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: plant biotechnology club Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:48:27 +0200 Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Lines: 41 Message-ID: <7j3nai$rtq$1@news1.skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup23.mechelen.skynet.be X-Trace: news1.skynet.be 928342162 28602 195.238.30.23 (2 Jun 1999 16:49:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jun 1999 16:49:22 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Dear all, this is a message in which i will present a new online club for people interested in plant molecular biology. It does not contain any question or answer to a problem mentioned higher. Please ignore if not interested. The plant biotechnology club is a club recently founded to bring together researchers in the field of plant molecular biology from all over the world to discuss the research in there area. With the controverse existing these days about GMOs in the media our discussions have been concentrating on that topic: the ethic aspects of genetic engineering of plants, public opinion, environmental aspects, etc. But it is also the goal of the club to discuss research problems and advances. Currently there are two founders in this club: Shai Lawit, graduate student in plant molecular biology at the University of Florida and Dan Hancock, medical student at Cambridge. They 'lead' the discussions and bring up new topics to discuss in order to keep the quality of the discussions as high as possible. The club mostly works via its message board where every member can post a message that all other members can read and reply to at later times (just as in newsgroups). In addition to this there is also a place where links can be added to interesting sites on the internet concerning the subject. (A very interesting link that has been added there is to the yahoo full coverage site on the news about GMOs where you can follow up the most recent news on the subject.) Also a place in this club that may be of much interest in the future is the chat room to discuss topics in a more direct way. This club has been started up 3 weeks ago and I guess it will need some time to grow bigger to become as interesting as it is intended to be. That is why we keep on looking for interesting and interested members to participate in our club. The more people, the more ideas! Nevertheless, we have had already some interesting discussions. You can find the club at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/plantbiotechnology. If you want to obtain more information about how to funtion in the club, mail your questions to gentech2002@yahoo.com. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 17:56:00 1999 Path: biosci!NATURE.BERKELEY.EDU!gatoledo From: gatoledo@NATURE.BERKELEY.EDU (Gabriela Toledo-Ortiz) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: TXD cells Date: 2 Jun 1999 11:56:04 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 20 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net This is Gabriela Toledo. I am a graduate student in the Gruissem lab, Department of Plant Biology, UC Berkeley. We want to do some experiments with tobacco tissue culture cells and I am looking for Nicotiana tabacum L.var xanthii (TXD) cells . Could anybody who works with these cells kindly provide us so we can start with our culture? I would really appreciate it. You can contact me by email at gatoledo@nature.berkeley.edu Gabriela Gabriela Toledo Ortiz University of California, Berkeley Department of Plant Biology Gruissem Laboratory 211 Koshland Hall Berkeley CA 94720-3102 USA Ph (510)643-9395 From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 02 19:07:00 1999 From: "Laboratorio de Stress em Plantas" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: (corrected version) WORKSHOP - Recent Advances Plant Biology, Oporto, Portugal, July 7-9, Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:50:14 -0000 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 167 Message-ID: <7j3p87$199$1@khabala.ncc.up.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: plantaslab.ibmc.up.pt X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Path: biosci!pravda.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.nyu.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-ge.switch.ch!rccn.net!khagarin.porto.rccn.net!ciup2.ncc.up.pt!khabala.ncc.up.pt!not-for-mail WORKSHOP - RECENT ADVANCES IN PLANT BIOLOGY FROM STRESS AND OXYGEN RADICALS TO PROGRAMMED CELL DEATH AND SENESCENCE PORTO, PORTUGAL, JULY 7-9 Date : 7-9 July 1999 Site : IBMC - Institute for Molecular and Cell Biology, University of Porto Rua do Campo Alegre 823, 4150 Porto, Portugal Language : English Fee : 15 000 PTE (75 EUR), 8 000 PTE (40 EUR) for students (includes workshop notes, coffee-breaks and lunches) Group size: 40 to 50 participants (limited to auditorium capacity) Objectives In Plant Biology, the areas of Stress, Reactive Oxygen Intermediates, Programmed Cell Death and Senescence have emerged in recent years as some of the most exciting in the field, being also highly promising in terms of applied impact. The main objective of this workshop is to draw a united picture of current knowledge in these areas and to explore the links between them, trying to find new insights. The questions and experimental problems that should and may be addressed in the near future will be discussed, pointing out the trends of future investigation. This workshop also intends to put together experienced scientists with scientists who are willing to work in these new areas, encouraging the spread of the research effort in these areas and promoting the establishment of new collaborations. Instructions to submission of abstracts One page A4 format; margins 3 cm; font Times New Roman; letter size 12; paragraph 1.5; title in capital letters and in bold;. institutions, addresses and bibliography in letter size 10. Registration The deadline for registration and abstract submission is June 11. Payment should be done until June 30, after acknowledgement of registration acceptance. Payment in PTE or EUR should be made by bank transfer to Workshop inj Plant Biology, Account nº 001001352107323000172 (Swift code – BFYBPTPL135). Students should include the signature of the head of Department with the institutional stamp in the registration form. Accomodation 1 - Seminário do Vilar Rua Arcediago Van Zeller, 50, 4050-621 Porto Tel: + 351 (0)2 6000824 Fax: + 351 (0)2 6096276 Single room: 6500 PTE (32.4 EUR) - Double room: 4500 PTE (22.5 EUR) 2 - Hotel Ipanema Porto (****) Tel: + 351 (0)2 6068061 Single room: 15100 PTE (75.3 EUR) - Double room: 8550 PTE (42.6 EUR) Preliminary Program Day one 9.00 - 9.30 Registration and Welcome 9.30 - 10.30 Programed cell death during tracheary element differentiation involves a secreted protease A. Jones 10.30 - 11.00 Coffee break 11.00 - 12.00 Programmed cell death in the hypersensitive response R.I. Pennell 12.30 Lunch 14.00 - 15.00 Programmed cell death in systemic acquired resistance R.I. Pennell 15.00 - 16.00 Personal communications 16.00 - 16.30 Coffee break 16.30 - 17.30 Poster Session 19.00 Social program - Porto de Honra Day two 9.30 - 10.30 The role of H2O2 in oxidative stress in plants Dirk Inze 10.30 - 11.00 Coffee break 11.00 - 12.00 How does stress inhibit cell division in plants? Dirk Inze 12.30 Lunch 14.00 - 15.00 The role of ethylene in the regulation of senescence and abcission in plants. A. Bleeker 15.00 - 16.00 Personal communications 16.00 - 16.30 Coffee break 16.30 - 17.30 Open Discussion. Reactive Oxygen Intermediates - a danger or a bless? Day three 9.00 - 10.00 Genetic analysis of plant life cycle using Arabidopsis as a model A. Bleeker 10.00 - 10.30 Coffee break 10.30 - 11.30 Cell death and evolution P. Golstein 11.30 - 12.30 Open Discussion. Stress, plant cell death and senescence - what have they got to do with plant aging? 13.00 Farewell Lunch 14.30 Social programe - Touristic tour Invited Lecturers Alan Jones - Department of Biology, University of North Carolina, USA Anthony Bleeker - Department of Botany, Universoty of Wisconsin, USA Dirk Inze - Deparment of Genetics, University of Gent, Belgium Pierre Golstein - Centre d’Immunologie INSERM-CNRS de MArseille-Luminy, France Roger Pennell - Ceres, Inc., Malibu, USA REGISTRATION FORM Name: Address: Telephone: Fax: E-mail: Submission of: oral communication _ ; poster _ ; none _ Title: Accomodation: No _ ; Yes _ 1 - _ 2 - _ From_______to_________ Date: Signature: Registration / Information IBMC, Universidade do Porto Rua do Campo Alegre 823, 4150 Porto, Portugal Tel.: +351 (0)2 6074900 – Fax: +351 (0)2 6099157 E-mail: plantlin@ibmc.up.pt From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 17:50:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!news.belnet.be!inf6serv.rug.ac.be!not-for-mail From: Mark Davey Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: cycads in stasis Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:47:26 +0200 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Lines: 24 Message-ID: <3756CDBE.32E76E40@gengenp.rug.ac.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: pdln1p10.rug.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Hi there, I have a couple of cycads (revoluta and rumphii), which I keep indoors, in front of windows, and keep fairly well-watered. I've had both for a couple of years now, but they don't seem to be growing at all. They're not actually dying or anything, but I'd like to see a bit of growth once a year. I don't know if it's a question of day length, mean temperature, (in)sufficient light internsity or soil conditions. Suggestions ? Than ks mark From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 19:29:00 1999 Path: biosci!cnn.nas.nasa.gov!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news2.best.com!news1.best.com!news3.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3756E303.1D729942@connectlan.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:18:11 -0700 From: rclark@connectlan.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: DSL IS HERE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: dynamic13.pm01.sacramento.best.com X-Trace: nntp1.ba.best.com 928440955 204 207.159.14.13 Check out www.connectlan.com Your full service Systems Integrator. DSL, E-Commerce, Network Design, Service & Support. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 20:17:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!ptah.visi.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: bionet.plants From: dlarson@citilink.com Subject: Re: Ramfang anyone? Reply-To: dlarson@citi-link.com References: <3_E23.787$j65.118371@ptah.visi.com> <7in28s$l12$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk> X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 2.0 Lines: 34 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:11:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.98.9.143 X-Complaints-To: abuse@citilink.com X-Trace: ptah.visi.com 928444309 209.98.9.143 (Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:11:49 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:11:49 CDT Thanks! That sure looks like what I have. I'll have to wait a bit to see if those yellow flowers bloom. Dan In , abrandt@ab.hjemme.dk (abrandt) writes: >Perhaps you should have a look on the Compositae, Tanacetum vulgare. Its a >0.5- 1 m tall plant with 'carrot' like leaves and with a strong smell.The >flowers are yellow-gold in color and small and composite. The plant is >well known in Scandinavia. In danish it is called 'rejnfan' or 'regnfang' >which litterally means 'catch rain'. In old times it was used as a remedy >against, fleas, bed-bugs, moths etc. > >Anders > > > >> >>I am in Minnesota, USA. The plant is native to Iceland. >> >>The leaves are long and fern-like, but the actuall >>pattern to the leaf looks more like a carrot leaf. >>It is *not* a fern. The previous owner was a native >>of Iceland and told me what I know about it. She >>said it also small flowers but they have not bloomed >>yet. This plant really *does* smell like mint or catnip >>but looks nothing like either. >> >>Dan > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Thu Jun 03 21:54:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!uchinews2!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jleosnow@aol.com (JLeosnow) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: SIMPLE plant question....HELP!! Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 3 Jun 1999 22:48:48 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990603184848.14900.00000211@ng-fr1.aol.com> Can anyone tell me, when a plant, I'm assuming this would be the same for indoor potted plant and an outdoor plant (ex.Hosta) starts turning brown from the edge of the leaves inward, what type of water condition does this indicate?? Too much or not enough? Thanks. -John From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 07:31:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: "Greg Hutchens" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Water Hauler Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:26:15 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 13 Message-ID: <7j82ib$kmv$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cf.45.2b.2f X-Server-Date: 4 Jun 1999 08:25:47 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Greetings from Florida, I came across your site while looking for a water container and delivery system for interior plants. I am selling and leasing plants to office building and restaurants. I am currently using a 5 gallon bucket and a cup to water them and it is proving a bit time consuming as I have to return to fill it so often. Can you share with me what you use and how you water the hanging baskets? I am still a student but hope to get many more accounts. Any suggestions you may have will be appreciated. Thank you very much, Sammie Callahan, Clearwater, Florida. Scalla94@aol.com From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 10:00:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!gatech!130.207.244.101.MISMATCH!GT-News!not-for-mail From: spam.spam@spam.spam.com (I don't like spam!) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: SIMPLE plant question....HELP!! Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:53:26 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta GA, USA Lines: 9 Message-ID: <3757afca.1662157@news.gatech.edu> References: <19990603184848.14900.00000211@ng-fr1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ptb350w-1.ipst.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news-int.gatech.edu 928493607 18151 199.77.233.152 (4 Jun 1999 10:53:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gatech.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jun 1999 10:53:27 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes On 3 Jun 1999 22:48:48 GMT, jleosnow@aol.com (JLeosnow) wrote: >Can anyone tell me, when a plant, I'm assuming this would be the same for >indoor potted plant and an outdoor plant (ex.Hosta) starts turning brown from >the edge of the leaves inward, what type of water condition does this >indicate?? Too much or not enough? Thanks. >-John This varies greatly from plant to plant, but two possibilities are low humidity and hard water. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 13:45:00 1999 Path: biosci!ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU!koning From: koning@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU (Ross Koning) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: how to keep dogs out!? Date: 4 Jun 1999 07:45:08 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 31 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <7irmnr$eek$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net At 11:37 AM -0400 5/30/99, SHAWN RILEY wrote: >Can any one give me any ideas how to keep my 2 part chows out of my flower >beds? I've used regular pepper, hot pepper, soap, and vinegar. They seem >to almost like the pepper. Soap didn't kill the plants. I thought after I >did it, it could have. >I've even planted a mint plant and that doesn't bother them. > >Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! > >Thanks >Missy Hi Missy! I have had neighborhood dog troubles from time to time. What works here in New England is to drop a few mothballs around the perimeter of my yard. The dogs seem to hate that smell and avoid the area. ross ________________________________________________________________ Ross Koning | koning@ecsu.ctstateu.edu Biology Department | http://koning.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/ Eastern CT State University | phone: 860-465-5327 Willimantic, CT 06226 USA | fax: 860-465-4479 ____________________________|___________________________________ Electronic services composed and served from •Macintosh hardware. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 16:16:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!nnrp2.deja.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: pvas@my-deja.com Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Field Botany Course-Virginia-June 21-July 8 Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:03:36 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <7j8tcg$gm4$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.238.78.68 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Jun 04 16:03:36 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; Opera/3.0; Windows 95) 3.51 [en] X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x24.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 208.238.78.68 I understand there are still a couple of slots open for the following field botany class in northern Virginia - near Winchester: Field Botany (3 credit hrs) Time: 0900-1700 MTWTh June 21 - July 8; Instructor: Ms. Marion Blois-Lobstein. Prerequisite: One year of college biology or permission of instructor. Description: The primary emphasis of this class will be on the identification, classification, and evolution of flowering plants. Includes lectures, laboratories and field trips. Typically, there are two final exams: one practical and one lecture - Students seeking graduate credit will be required to complete an additional project. http://www.virginia.edu/~blandy/ http://minerva.acc.virginia.edu/~blandy/Student/courses99.html --Kathy Bilton Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 17:49:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!uchinews2!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jleosnow@aol.com (JLeosnow) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: how to keep dogs out!? Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 4 Jun 1999 18:43:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: Message-ID: <19990604144319.14903.00000581@ng-fr1.aol.com> Ross, Doy you think that technique qould work for all animals/rodents. Like rabbits? Also, do the mothballs kill or dis-color the lawn on or around where you put them? Thanks. -John From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 21:40:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: Catherine Ann Nyberg Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: reusing soil Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:39:13 +0000 Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: reqd-078.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win95; U) CC: egsutter@ucdavis.edu Hello- I am a student at UC Davis and I have a soil/potting question. I have several pots with soil in them that used to have plants in them before they died. Do I need to clean the pots or discard the soil before I replant the pots? Thanks for the help. Catherine Nyberg From owner-plants@net.bio.net Fri Jun 04 21:45:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: Catherine Ann Nyberg Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Pony Tail Palm Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:43:28 +0000 Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3757F420.333D@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: reqd-078.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Win95; U) CC: egsutter@ucdavis.edu Hello- My name is Catherine Nyberg and I am a student at UC Davis. I have a question about pony tail palms. The tips of the leaves of my palm turn brown and are dead, should I cut them off, and will this prevent the rest of the leaves from dying? I guess this question could also go for any plant. Thanks for the help. Sincerely, Catherine Nyberg From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Jun 05 01:55:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!uchinews2!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.enteract.com!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newscon02!prodigy.com!not-for-mail From: "Stephen M Jankalski" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Pony Tail Palm = Beaucarnea recurvata Date: 5 Jun 1999 02:48:29 GMT Organization: Prodigy Communications Corp Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01beaeff$41d193e0$e44dfcd1@default> References: <3757F420.333D@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: laurb306-44.splitrock.net X-Trace: newssvr01-int.news.prodigy.com 928550909 2794690 209.252.77.228 (5 Jun 1999 02:48:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 1999 02:48:29 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Dear Catherine, It is natural for the end of the leaves of Beaucarnea recurvata to dry up and turn brown. You can cut them back if you wish but be sure to cut them on an angle. Cutting them back will not prevent the leaf from eventually drying up completely. Cereusly Steve Catherine Ann Nyberg wrote in article <3757F420.333D@ucdavis.edu>... > Hello- > > My name is Catherine Nyberg and I am a student at UC Davis. I > have a question about pony tail palms. The tips of the leaves of my > palm turn brown and are dead, should I cut them off, and will this > prevent the rest of the leaves from dying? I guess this question could > also go for any plant. Thanks for the help. > > Sincerely, > Catherine Nyberg > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Jun 05 18:12:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.wli.net!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!wnmaster2!not-for-mail From: "e.t." Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: reusing soil Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:02:57 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 25 Message-ID: <7jbsgq$btk$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.69.34.251 X-Trace: bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net 928609626 12212 12.69.34.251 (5 Jun 1999 19:07:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 1999 19:07:06 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 It is always recommended that you clean your pots before the next use. Discard the dirt and drainage material, then scrub the pot down with vinegar and water (this will take out the salt deposits and give the pot a revived appearance). After scrubbing, soak the pot a couple of hours in a 10 to 1 mixture of water and bleach. Rinse and air dry. It is possible that whatever caused the former occupant to die off was something other than not watering or overwatering; ie "normal" causes, and you never want the salt deposits passed on. This process should assure sanitary conditions for the newcomer. Green On! e.t. Catherine Ann Nyberg wrote in message news:3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu... > Hello- > > I am a student at UC Davis and I have a soil/potting question. > I have several pots with soil in them that used to have plants in them > before they died. Do I need to clean the pots or discard the soil > before I replant the pots? Thanks for the help. > > Catherine Nyberg From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Jun 05 21:35:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!insnet.net!chilli.nntp.netline.net.uk!nnrp.netlineuk.net!user133056.dial.netline.net.uk!not-for-mail From: "Terry Jones" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: reusing soil Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:59:46 +0100 Organization: Netline UK - Free Internet Access - http://www.netline.net.uk Lines: 11 Message-ID: <7jc8dc$5oc$3@cinnamon.nnrp.netline.net.uk> References: <3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: user133056.dial.netline.net.uk X-Trace: cinnamon.nnrp.netline.net.uk 928621804 5900 212.111.133.56 (5 Jun 1999 22:30:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@netlineuk.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jun 1999 22:30:04 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 ". Do I need to clean the pots or discard the soil before I replant the pots? " Definately clean the pots. As far as soil is concerned, I usualy empty it into a dish, wet it well, then zap it in the microwave untill it steams. The idea is to try and kill off any pests or eggs that might be in the soil. Terry From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sat Jun 05 22:06:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!hub1.ispnews.com!cyc12.deja.bcandid.com!nntp1.deja.com!nnrp2.deja.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: ntbandit@globec.com.au Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Pony Tail Palm Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:03:13 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <7jc6qu$g6r$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <3757F420.333D@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.139.227.210 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Jun 05 22:03:13 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 ripper.globec.com.au:8080 (Squid/2.1.PATCH2), 1.0 essex:8080 (Squid/2.2.STABLE3), 1.0 x22.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 203.147.240.24, 203.25.137.48, 202.139.227.210 In article <3757F420.333D@ucdavis.edu>, Catherine Ann Nyberg wrote: > Hello- > > My name is Catherine Nyberg and I am a student at UC Davis. I > have a question about pony tail palms. The tips of the leaves of my > palm turn brown and are dead, should I cut them off, and will this > prevent the rest of the leaves from dying? I guess this question could > also go for any plant. Thanks for the help. > > Sincerely, > Catherine Nyberg > g'day catherine, i assume you mean 'beaucarnea recurvata'? now you don't say if it is a potted plant so i'll treat it as potted. dying at the tips can either be a light problem or a water problem, if indoors they need to be in a good light situation but no direct sun through glass, and cutting the dead tips won't stop the damage it will just keep going brown until the leaf is dead. these plants will take full sun in outdoors conditions. they are a succulent type plant and it can be very easy to over water, so it is best to let the mix all but dry out before rewatering, the plant will use its own water reseves long before it suffers from lack of water, this will be obvious when the plant bulb beigins to wrinkle and shrivle. those 2 probelms are the most likely cause of the damaged tips. len -- happy gardening 'it works for me it could work for you' "old age and treachury will overcome youth and skill" Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sun Jun 06 00:22:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!remarQ73!supernews.com!remarQ.com!news1.ftlnews.net!nntp.cntfl.com!not-for-mail From: "Longhair" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: reusing soil Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:09:43 -0400 Organization: CMDS News machine Lines: 15 Message-ID: <7jci23$cv8$1@server.cntfl.com> References: <3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 06016231.ppptlh.nettally.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 You will also need to add amendments back that were used by the plants before. Add a fertilizer, slow-release, like Osmocote, follow directions on the package for the size pot you are using. Catherine Ann Nyberg wrote in message news:3757F321.2B1@ucdavis.edu... > Hello- > > I am a student at UC Davis and I have a soil/potting question. > I have several pots with soil in them that used to have plants in them > before they died. Do I need to clean the pots or discard the soil > before I replant the pots? Thanks for the help. > > Catherine Nyberg From owner-plants@net.bio.net Sun Jun 06 05:20:00 1999 Path: biosci!XXLINK.NL!peonua86 From: peonua86@XXLINK.NL Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: ADV: PHOTO Mousepads.....these are COOL! Date: 5 Jun 1999 23:20:07 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 147 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199906051332IAA41138@deskdresser.unifr.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net To be removed from our mailing list please call 800-242-0363 ext. 2759 Please click delete. * see below for more info. GREAT GIFT IDEA! MOUSEPADS WITH YOUR FAVORITE PHOTOS! Need a new look for your desk? 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From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 07:28:00 1999 Path: biosci!ENSAIA.INPL-NANCY.FR!Eric.Gontier From: Eric.Gontier@ENSAIA.INPL-NANCY.FR (Eric Gontier) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Congress of the french section of the IAPTC Date: 7 Jun 1999 01:28:06 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 19 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <01BEB0CF.CB94D480@gontier.ensaia.u-nancy.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net The french section of the international association for plant - tissue culture and biotechnology is organizing a congress entitled : les biotechnologies vegetales a l aube du XXIeme siecle : bilan et perspectives (8, 9 and 10th of december 1999 in Nancy, France). Most of the conferences will be presented in french and some in english. Full registration price is 1000FF. Scientific programm and all the other informations are presented on web site : http://www.ensaia.inpl-nancy.fr/IAPTC/congres.html Thanks in advance for your attention and for transmitting this information to other colleagues. Sincerely yours Dr. Eric GONTIER --------------------------------------------------------- Gontier Eric Maître de Conférences (Assist. Prof.) Laboratoire Agronomie & Environnement ENSAIA - INRA BP 172 54505 Vandoeuvre les Nancy France Phone : (33) 383 59 57 81 Fax : (33) 383 59 57 99 Email : gontier@ensaia.u-nancy.fr --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 13:31:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!intgwpad.nntp.telstra.net!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.usyd.edu.au!news.uow.edu.au!not-for-mail From: "Slow" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Anyone knows "elaiosome"? Help! Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:28:40 +1000 Organization: Slowly Corp Lines: 4 Message-ID: <7jgkq2$2ck$1@wyrm.its.uow.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: ceast05.uow.edu.au X-Trace: wyrm.its.uow.edu.au 928765570 2452 130.130.166.5 (7 Jun 1999 14:26:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@wyrm.its.uow.edu.au NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Jun 1999 14:26:10 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 How and why the presence of elaiosomes on the seeds can affect the seed dispersal? From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 14:23:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!interpath.net!news-relay.ncren.net!ussun2n!news@ussun2n.glaxo.com From: "Laurie B Adams" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: SIMPLE plant question....HELP!! Date: 7 Jun 1999 14:20:59 GMT Organization: Glaxo Wellcome Message-ID: <01beb0f0$dad93460$09993398@us0719484> References: <19990603184848.14900.00000211@ng-fr1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.51.153.9 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 48 As a former horticulturist, I can say with assurance to give it the finger! (By that I mean, stick a finger at least an inch into the soil, to see whether or not it is moist or dry or soggy.) Three basic care problems can cause browning of leaf margins: 1. Too little water (plant starts to die from the edges inward) Solution: Keep checking the moisture in the soil. Water when the soil is almost, but not bone dry. 2. Too much water (rots the roots, so the plant begins to die, as above) Solution: Keep checking the moisture in the soil. Wait to water until the soil is pretty dry. The plant may take a while to recover, because it has to grow new roots to replace the ones that rotted away. Be brave and strong, and remember that until it has grown new roots, it cannot USE a lot of water, but will drown in it. 3. Soluble salts buildup in the soil if it is potted. If the plant is in a pot for a long time without repotting, soluble salts from fertilizer or the local water can build up in the soil, essentially burning the plant. Solution: Repot the plant in fresh potting soil. If it was in a clay pot and the pot has mineral buildup on it, either scrub and the pot to remove it, or use a clean new pot, and soak and scrub the old one over a period of time till you have removed and leached out the chemicals. Keep checking the moisture in the soil, so you do not over- or under-water the plant, since that can comppound the prob- lems the plant is experiencing. In all the above scenarios, you can carefully trim the brown from the edges of damaged leaves. Once the plant is healthier and again pro- ducing new growth, you can prune away the damaged leaves, so the plant will put all its energy into the new ones. Cheers, laurie brooke adams (Mother Mastiff) JLeosnow wrote in article <19990603184848.14900.00000211@ng-fr1.aol.com>... > Can anyone tell me, when a plant, I'm assuming this would be the same for > indoor potted plant and an outdoor plant (ex.Hosta) starts turning brown from > the edge of the leaves inward, what type of water condition does this > indicate?? Too much or not enough? Thanks. > -John > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 16:37:00 1999 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!newsfeed.tli.de!news.algonet.se!algonet!feed2.news.luth.se!luth.se!news-ge.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!newsfeed.cineca.it!newsfeed.nettuno.it!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!news.tin.it!not-for-mail From: "eco verde" Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,alt.aquaria.killies,alt.aquaria.oscars,alt.binaries.pictures.gardens,alt.breast-implant.moderated,alt.drunken.bastards,alt.support.breast-implant,alt.support.norplant,bionet.plants,bionet.plants.education,bit.listserv.transplant,com Subject: eco verde - Azienda Florovivaistica di Per. Agr. 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From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 20:44:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jleosnow@aol.com (JLeosnow) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: SIMPLE plant question....HELP!! Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 7 Jun 1999 21:38:22 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <01beb0f0$dad93460$09993398@us0719484> Message-ID: <19990607173822.14076.00002400@ng-fp1.aol.com> Thanks for the valuable info!! -John From owner-plants@net.bio.net Mon Jun 07 20:59:00 1999 From: "RbrtApril" Subject: Red and black pest, looks like ladybug larvae. Anyone know what this is and how to safely rid my tree of it? 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If you speak italian and like cacti and succulents, vote for the new newsgroup. Regards -- Giovanni (take away the x's from my e-mail address) http://space.tin.it/scienza/gquarell/ From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 00:40:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!208.155.48.9!news.binc.net!nntp.chorus.net!news.itis.com!not-for-mail From: jpreloz@chorus.net (Joe Preloznik) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Cate safe plants? Date: 8 Jun 1999 01:32:32 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <7jhrrg$o0a$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a25-44.itis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit) Lines: 6 We just bought some plants for our home and NOW we'd like to know if they're safe enough for our cats (in case they nibble on a leaf). Please email me your responses if you would. Thanks. jpreloz@chorus.net From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 01:45:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsserver.pacific.net.sg!not-for-mail From: "James Lai" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: How to Measure pH of Soil??? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:31:57 +0800 Organization: Subscriber of Pacific Internet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <7jhv9g$i8u$1@newton.pacific.net.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: max87ppp250.pacific.net.sg X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Can somebody please help me? I'd like to measure the pH of my soil but I don't know how to do it? Thanks. From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 02:02:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.ne.kr!news-xfer.nuri.net!news.unitel.co.kr!news-read.unitel.co.kr!not-for-mail From: "Eui Chang Kim" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Eragrostis multicaulis Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:59:59 +0900 Organization: AT&T and SAMSUNG Lines: 6 Message-ID: <7ji06o$oo6$1@newsread.unitel.co.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.2.156.222 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I need a picture of "Eragrostis multicaulis" Can you send me the picture of it? please From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 02:37:00 1999 Path: biosci!VICTORIA.TC.CA!aceska From: aceska@VICTORIA.TC.CA (Adolf Ceska) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: BEN # 225 Date: 7 Jun 1999 20:37:13 -0700 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 282 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: Reply-To: ben-l@victoria.tc.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net BBBBB EEEEEE NN N ISSN 1188-603X BB B EE NNN N BBBBB EEEEE NN N N BOTANICAL BB B EE NN NN ELECTRONIC BBBBB EEEEEE NN N NEWS No. 225 June 7, 1999 aceska@victoria.tc.ca Victoria, B.C. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dr. A. Ceska, P.O.Box 8546, Victoria, B.C. Canada V8W 3S2 ----------------------------------------------------------- LIMNANTHES MACOUNII - THE END OF AN ENDEMIC SPECIES From: Adolf & Oluna Ceska c/o Macoun's meadowfoam, Limnanthes macounii, is an enigmatic, elusive plant that was described from Victoria on southern Vancouver Island and until recently has not been known from anywhere else in the world other than from the southern part of Vancouver Island and adjacent islands. The first specimens were collected by John Macoun (pronounce "Macown") "in ditches at Victoria" in May 1875. Macoun was unable to identify this plant and send it to William Trelease, who described it as a new species and named it after the collec- tor (Trelease 1888). Macoun's meadowfoam is a winter annual that occurs in vernal pools, seepy places, or in wet depressions in open Garry oak and Douglas-fir forests. The places where it grows are wet or flooded from winter rains and bone dry in summer. Meadowfoam germinates in October, early after the first heavier rains. At this phase it is the most conspicuous since it starts well ahead of other annual plants. The size of plants does not change too much during the winter and spring. It flowers in April and it can be easily overlooked at flowering time, since its flowers are inconspicuous and plants are usually overgrown with plants of other species. The species was at the botanical centre of interest in Victoria at the beginning of this century. Dr. C.F. Newcombe (Newcombe's Family Papers, B.C. Provincial Archives, ms.), for instance, regularly visited localities known to him. After Dr. Newcombe's death in 1924, the interest in this species diminished. The last collection of L. macounii cited in Mason's (1952) monograph of Limnanthes was that made by Mr. G.A. Hardy in 1926. In his correspondence with Mason, Mr. Hardy wrote "The localities from which these specimens were gathered have undergone some man-made changes in recent years with the result that this species is now either very rare or extinct in these particular places" (Mason 1952). Based on this information Hitchcock (1961, p. 406) sug- gested the possibility that L. macounii "was a very local species which no longer survives." In 1956, however, Mr. Hardy found Limnanthes macounii on Trial Island and in 1958 Miss M.C. Melburn found a large population of the species on Cattle Point in the Uplands Park area, Victoria. A specimen from this population has the following remark on the label: "rare, not known from any other locality except reported from Trial Island." Miss Melburn then recorded the sightings of Limnanthes macounii at Cattle Point every year from 1961 to 1978. Our interest in the distribution of Limnanthes macounii began in 1972 when we accidentally found at that time an unknown locality in the Chinese cemetery at Harling Point, Victoria. From 1972 to 1980 we discovered over 30 distinct populations of L. macounii. The most important find was a cluster of populations on Yellow Point north of Ladysmith in 1977; this extended the known range of L. macounii by 70 km. In 1987 we completed a status report on Limnanthes macounii and submitted it to the Committee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada (Ceska & Ceska 1987). In this report we listed 53 populations of Macoun's meadowfoam from about 23 localities, distributed from Beechey Head in Sooke (48 deg. 19' N. 123 deg. 39' W., 25 km SW of Victoria) to Yellow Point near Ladysmith (49 deg 02' N. 123 deg. 45' W., 72 km N of Victoria). Since 1987 the range of Limnanthes macounii has been extended when Richard Martin found a northernmost locality of Limnanthes on Hornby Island (49 deg. 31' N. 124 deg. 37' W., 151 km N of Victoria). George Douglas found another locality on Gabriola Island, about half way between Hornby Island and Yellow Point. Macoun's meadowfoam had remained a local endemic with a very narrow range. It was difficult to explain the presence of this species, rela- tively distinct from other species of the genus, in the area that was glaciated in the last glaciation that ended about 12,000 years ago. In our report (Ceska & Ceska 1987) we offered the following possibilities: 1. Limnanthes macounii survived glaciation on open unglaciated rock walls along the western edge of the ice sheet. 2. The present distribution is merely a northern extension of an originally more southerly distribution, and the species spread into its recent localities together with numerous other southern floristic elements during the Hypsithermal period. In the southern part of its area of distribution Limnanthes macounii either became extinct, or has been overlooked. 3. The species is the product of rapid evolution, evolution which combines the so-called founder principle with catastrophic evolution. The second hypothesis, i.e., that Limnanthes macounii originally occurred or still occurs in California or Oregon, was the most plausible. We have a group of species that occur from California to the Columbia River Gorge (on the border with Oregon and Washington), are rare or missing in the Washington State, and re-occur again on the southeastern part of Vancouver Island. Allium amplectens, Crassula connata, Dryopteris arguta, Githop- sis specularioides, Isoetes nuttallii, Microseris bigelovii, Montia howellii, Ranunculus californicus, Sanicula arctopoides, Trifolium depauperatum, Triphysaria versicolor subsp. faucibar- bata, and Vulpia microstachys var. pauciflora can be given as an example. Most of these species have ecology similar to Lim- nanthes macounii and some occur in the same localities as Macoun's meadowfoam. In the winter of 1977 we made an unsuccessful attempt to explore the California coast for Limnanthes macounii. Several Ph.D. students from the University of California in Berkeley and the University of California in Davis, Ed Guerrant, Charles McNeill, and Kermit Ritland, visited Victoria to see our populations of Limnanthes macounii. We urged them to look for this species in California, but they were convinced that Macoun's meadowfoam could not been overlooked, if it grew there. In March 1998 Eva Buxton found a large population of Limnanthes macounii near Moss Beach, San Mateo Co. in California (Buxton & Ornduff 1999), where Limnanthes macounii is "abundant on ca 18 acres of a seasonally fallow [cabbage] field. ... There were doubtless many more individuals in the Moss Beach population in 1998 that in all the British Columbia populations combined." It is obvious that the cabbage field is not the native habitat of Macoun's meadowfoam in California. The question remains where in native habitats of California (and coastal Oregon and possibly Washington) we should look for its indigenous occurrences. Californian plants of Limnanthes macounii are morphologically slightly different from the Vancouver Island plants. They are usually bigger (but still prostrate), leaves are more divided, and when we planted Californian seed in our Victoria garden, the majority of the seedlings died in a short freezing spell in December 1998, whereas Vancouver Island plants survived without too much damage. In spite of these differences, we believe that the Vancouver Island and Californian plants belong to the same species. It is obvious that Limnanthes macounii needs further study. At this time, Californian botanists should concentrate their ef- forts on finding more about the distribution of this species in California, and the search should be extended to Oregon and Washington. Native populations of this plant will be less con- spicuous than an 18 acre cabbage field. The best time to look for this plant is in December and January when the seedlings still have cotyledons and are conspicuous by their yellow-green colour. Until we get more information on the distribution of Limnanthes macounii, it will remain an enigmatic and elusive species. References: Buxton, E. & R. Ornduff. 1999. Noteworthy collections - Califor- nia: Limnanthes macounii Trel. (Limnanthaceae). Madrono 45(1998): 184. Ceska, A. & O. Ceska. 1987. Status report on the Macoun's meadowfoam (Limnanthes macounii Trel.). Report for the Com- mittee on the Status of Endangered Wildlife in Canada, Ot- tawa, Ont. [unpublished ms.] Hitchcock, C.L. 1961. Limnanthaceae. Pp. 405-406. In: Hitchcock, C.L., A. Cronquist, M. Ownbey & J.W. Thompson. Vascular plants of the Pacific Northwest. Part 3: Saxifragaceae to Ericaceae. University of Washington Press, Seattle and Lon- don. 614 p. Mason, C.T., Jr. 1952. A systematic study of the genus Lim- nanthes R.Br. Univ. Calif. Publ. Bot. 25: 455-512; pl. 43-46. Trelease, W. 1888. A study of North America Geraniaceae. Mem. Boston Soc. Nat. Hist. 4: 71-104. ATLAS OF OREGON SEDGES (GENUS CAREX, CYPERACEAE) From: Nick Otting The Carex Working Group is pleased to announce the publication "Atlas of Oregon Carex". This publication, which documents the results of nearly 7 years of sedging in Oregon, is the first occasional paper of the Native Plant Society of Oregon. The "Atlas of Oregon Carex" has 128 location maps, one for each Carex taxon in the state of Oregon. Also included are a synonymy, fun facts about sedges, a history of the project, and Oregon geography maps. Order your copy by sending a $5 check (made payable to NPSO) to: Atlas of Oregon Carex c/o Keli Kuykendall 4550 S.W. Nash Ave. Corvallis, OR 97333-9301 NEW BOOK: INDIANS, FIRE, AND THE LAND IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST From: Tom Booth Boyd, Robert [ed.] 1999. Indians, fire, and the land in the Pacific Northwest Oregon State University Press, Corvallis, OR. 320 p. ISBN 0-87071-459-7 [soft cover] Cost: US$34.95 Available in bookstores or by calling 1-800-426-3797. For further information, please contact the OSU Press at 503-282- 9801 or tbooth@teleport.com Instead of discovering a land blanketed by dense forests, early explorers of the Pacific Northwest encountered a varied landscape of open woods, spacious meadows, and extensive prairies. Far from a pristine wilderness, much of the Northwest was actively managed and shaped by the hands of its Native American inhabitants. Their primary tool was fire. "Indians, Fire, and the Land in the Pacific Northwest," edited by Robert Boyd, offers an interdisciplinary approach to one of the most important issues concerning Native Americans and their relationship to the land. During more than 10,000 years of occupation, Native Americans in the Northwest learned the in- tricacies of their local environments and how to use fire to create desired effects, mostly in the quest for food. Drawing on historical journals, Native American informants, and botanical and forestry studies, the contributors to this book describe local patterns of fire use in eight ecoregions, repre- senting all parts of the Native Northwest, from southwest Oregon to British Columbia and from Puget Sound to the Northern Rockies. Their essays provide glimpses into a unique understand- ing of the environment-a traditional ecological knowledge now for the most part lost. Together, these writings also offer historical perspective on the contemporary debate over "prescribed burning" on public lands. Contributors: Stephen Arno, Stephen Barrett, Theresa Ferguson, David French, Eugene Hunn, Leslie Johnson, Jeff LaLande, Estella Leopold, Henry Lewis, Helen H. Norton, Reg Pullen, William Robbins, John Ross, Nancy Turner, & Richard White. LIVERWORTS FOR ENTHUSIASTS From: Erika North Ley, L.M. & J.M. Crowe. 1999. An Enthusiasts Guide to the Liver- worts and Hornworts of Ontario. Lakehead University, Thunder Bay, Ontario. 134 p., line drawings, 6 colour plates. ISBN 0- 88663-027-4 [spiral bound] Cost: $15 (postage included) or US$10 (postage included) Copies available from: Erika North, Claude Garton Herbarium Lakehead University 955 Oliver Rd., Thunder Bay, ON Canada P7B 5E1 (cheques payable to Lakehead University) Although this guide has been written for the liverworts of Ontario, it is very comprehensive in providing scale drawings of all the species, with keys and illustrated glossary. It should be useful to the naturalist as well as the botanist. All 170 known species of hornworts and liverworts from Ontario are included in this book. There is an illustration of at least part of a plant for all these species. Rare status of a species is noted and locations of verified specimens are given by County (in southern Ontario) or by District. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Subscriptions: Send "subscribe BEN-L" or "unsubscribe BEN-L" (no apostrophes) to majordomo@victoria.tc.ca Send submissions to BEN-L@victoria.tc.ca BEN is archived at http://www.ou.edu/cas/botany-micro/ben/ ________________________________________________________________ From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 04:57:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!skynet.be!news.belnet.be!not-for-mail From: "A. Van Laere" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Anyone knows "elaiosome"? Help! Date: 8 Jun 1999 05:51:56 GMT Organization: KULeuvenNet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <01beb173$044d9020$9c68210a@andre.agr.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <7jgkq2$2ck$1@wyrm.its.uow.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: naxos.belnet.be 928821116 28186 134.58.127.3 (8 Jun 1999 05:51:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@belnet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jun 1999 05:51:56 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Cache-Post-Path: marvin!unknown@dhcp-104-156.agr.kuleuven.ac.be X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Elaiosomes attract ants. The a ants take care of the transport to more distant places. Slow wrote in article <7jgkq2$2ck$1@wyrm.its.uow.edu.au>... > How and why the presence of elaiosomes on the seeds can affect the seed > dispersal? > > > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 06:15:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsserver.pacific.net.sg!not-for-mail From: "Cactus Jack" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: How to Measure pH of Soil??? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:06:44 +0800 Organization: Subscriber of Pacific Internet Lines: 13 Message-ID: <7jifco$qfj$1@newton.pacific.net.sg> References: <7jhv9g$i8u$1@newton.pacific.net.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: max87ppp248.pacific.net.sg X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Try this page at http://www.eutechinst.com/t1.htm James Lai wrote in message news:7jhv9g$i8u$1@newton.pacific.net.sg... > Can somebody please help me? I'd like to measure the pH of my soil but I > don't know how to do it? > > Thanks. > > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 09:45:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!uchinews2!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!netnews.com!news.eecis.udel.edu!gatech!130.207.244.101.MISMATCH!GT-News!not-for-mail From: spam.spam@spam.spam.com (I don't like spam!) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Plant flowering and the first day of Summer Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 10:36:41 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta GA, USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <375defe4.740740@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ptb350w-1.ipst.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news-int.gatech.edu 928838201 19950 199.77.233.152 (8 Jun 1999 10:36:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.gatech.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jun 1999 10:36:41 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Out of curiosity, more than anything else, this question has mulled around in the back of my mind for some time now. Forgive me for the lack of more specific, scientific terms: As the longest day of the year approaches, the first day of Summer, the day to day change in daylight hours gets very small. Lacking a cue from a changing photoperiod, do fewer plant species in an area begin their flowering period around the first day of summer than at other times of the year? On a similar thread, are there "peak" times of the year for the number of plant species blooming based upon rapidly changing photoperiods, around the first day of Spring and Fall? I realize that the Spring bloomers are taking advantage of additional available light before the deciduous trees leaf out. But in areas where there are no deciduous seasons, are there peak blooming periods around these days of rapidly changing photoperiods? (No, this is not a test or essay question, simply a curiosity.) From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 10:25:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!ayres.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!colt.net!news0.de.colt.net!newscore.gigabell.net!newscore.ipf.de!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed01.btx.dtag.de!fu-berlin.de!141.80.28.41!not-for-mail From: Burkhard Malorny Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Plant Housekeeping gene Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:18:10 +0100 Message-ID: <375D0A01.EA13F6A9@mdc-berlin.de> Reply-To: congen@congen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.80.28.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Access: 16 1370 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 928840773 25166 (none) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [de] (WinNT; I) Lines: 9 I need your help! Does anybody know an housekeeping gene of plants, which is encoded as single copy gene in the nucleus of plants and useable for detection plant DNA by PCR? Thank you for help, Dr. Burkhard Malorny From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 11:28:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newscon02!prodigy.com!not-for-mail From: "Stephen M Jankalski" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: CAT safe plants? Date: 8 Jun 1999 12:22:31 GMT Organization: Prodigy Communications Corp Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01beb1aa$f2d2a3c0$75899cd1@default> References: <7jhrrg$o0a$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: laurb104-25.splitrock.net X-Trace: newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com 928844551 2794690 209.156.137.117 (8 Jun 1999 12:22:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jun 1999 12:22:31 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Well, are you you going to tell us the names of the plants in question? Joe Preloznik wrote in article <7jhrrg$o0a$1@news.itis.com>... > We just bought some plants for our home and NOW we'd like to know if they're > safe enough for our cats (in case they nibble on a leaf). Please email me your > responses if you would. Thanks. > > jpreloz@chorus.net > > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 16:02:00 1999 Path: biosci!agate!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!uninett.no!nntp.uib.no!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Kvalvik Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Juglans regia Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 19:01:00 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <375D4C4C.AE5D52B8@ifi.uib.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pd-iclpii-hh-24.ifi.uib.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Lines: 5 I need a good picture of various types of the walnut-tree. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Bå From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 17:10:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.nl!demon!tuin.demon.nl!not-for-mail From: "pbridgers" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Juglans regia Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:07:48 +0200 Message-ID: <928865027.22356.0.pluto.c3ade314@news.demon.nl> References: <375D4C4C.AE5D52B8@ifi.uib.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: tuin.demon.nl X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tuin.demon.nl:195.173.227.20 X-Trace: news.demon.nl 928865027 pluto:22356 NO-IDENT tuin.demon.nl:195.173.227.20 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Lines: 12 Heres one... good luck http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/gardening/encyc/display/0,1073,17531,00.htm l Bjørn Kvalvik wrote in message news:375D4C4C.AE5D52B8@ifi.uib.no... > I need a good picture of various types of the walnut-tree. Can anyone > point me in the right direction? > > Bå > From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 17:12:00 1999 Path: biosci!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.nl!demon!tuin.demon.nl!not-for-mail From: "pbridgers" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Juglans Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:10:20 +0200 Message-ID: <928865178.22478.0.pluto.c3ade314@news.demon.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: tuin.demon.nl X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tuin.demon.nl:195.173.227.20 X-Trace: news.demon.nl 928865178 pluto:22478 NO-IDENT tuin.demon.nl:195.173.227.20 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Lines: 5 A bigger photo? Try http://www.sierra.com/sierrahome/gardening/encyc/largephoto/0,1291,17531,00. html From owner-plants@net.bio.net Tue Jun 08 21:20:00 1999 Path: biosci!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: Little198@webtv.net (Patriots Angel) Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: terranium Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 52 Message-ID: <21780-375D8CC9-3@newsd-123.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary=WebTV-Mail-1433237426-360 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAhXsnfk1a1tH1UsVCG2Pcf3ozU0ICFADzby5uXpNr/lW4kzCFHob3pX9b Content-Disposition: Inline X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=white --WebTV-Mail-1433237426-360 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit im interested in making a terranium but have no idea how to get started...any help would be great. plant suggestions? web sights? etc --WebTV-Mail-1433237426-360 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit






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--WebTV-Mail-1433237426-360-- From owner-plants@net.bio.net Wed Jun 09 06:11:00 1999 Path: biosci!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!isdnet!news.belnet.be!not-for-mail From: "A. Van Laere" Newsgroups: bionet.plants Subject: Re: Plant flowering and the first day of Summer Date: 9 Jun 1999 07:06:13 GMT Organization: KULeuvenNet Lines: 27 Message-ID: <01beb246$8dbed020$9c68210a@andre.agr.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <375defe4.740740@news.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: naxos.belnet.be 928911973 24646 134.58.127.3 (9 Jun 1999 07:06:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@belnet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jun 1999 07:06:13 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Cache-Post-Path: marvin!unknown@dhcp-104-156.agr.kuleuven.ac.be X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Since different plant species have: - different tresholds of daylenght (night length) - different number of cycles needed for induction - different periods between fotoperiodic induction and actual flowering I suppose the whole thing would look rather random but I have no data to support this. I don't like spam! wrote in article <375defe4.740740@news.gatech.edu>... > Out of curiosity, more than anything else, this question has mulled > around in the back of my mind for some time now. Forgive me for the > lack of more specific, scientific terms: > > As the longest day of the year approaches, the first day of Summer, > the day to day change in daylight hours gets very small. Lacking a cue > from a changing photoperiod, do fewer plant species in an area