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From: andres@wilson.Stanford.EDU (Andres Ruiz)
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Subject: DNA fingerprints
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Does any one out there know about recent work on the use of DNA fingerprints  
(multilocus or combined form single VNTR loci) to analyse population structure?  
The most recent work I have seen is on the California Chanel Island fox  
(Gilbert et al. Nature 344:764-767- 1990).

--
             Andres RUIZ LINARES M.D., Ph.D.
             Department of Genetics
             Stanford University Medical School
             Stanford CA 94305
             Phone: (415) 723-65-06
             Fax: (415) 725-15-34

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Jun 10 23:00:00 1993
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From: andres@wilson.Stanford.EDU (Andres Ruiz)
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Subject: DNA fingerprints
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Does any one out there know about recent work on the use of DNA fingerprints  
(multilocus or combined form single VNTR loci) to analyse population structure?  
The most recent work I have seen is on the California Chanel Island fox  
(Gilbert et al. Nature 344:764-767- 1990).

--
             Andres RUIZ LINARES M.D., Ph.D.
             Department of Genetics
             Stanford University Medical School
             Stanford CA 94305
             Phone: (415) 723-65-06
             Fax: (415) 725-15-34

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Jun 10 23:00:00 1993
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From: andres@wilson.Stanford.EDU (Andres Ruiz)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: DNA fingerprints
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Does any one out there know about recent work on the use of DNA fingerprints  
(multilocus or combined form single VNTR loci) to analyse population structure?  
The most recent work I have seen is on the California Chanel Island fox  
(Gilbert et al. Nature 344:764-767- 1990).


--
             Andres RUIZ LINARES M.D., Ph.D.
             Department of Genetics
             Stanford University Medical School
             Stanford CA 94305
             Phone: (415) 723-65-06
             Fax: (415) 725-15-34

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Jun 10 23:00:00 1993
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From: andres@wilson.Stanford.EDU (Andres Ruiz)
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Subject: DNA fingerprints
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Does any one out there know about recent work on the use of DNA fingerprints  
(multilocus or combined form single VNTR loci) to analyse population structure?  
The most recent work I have seen is on the California Chanel Island fox  
(Gilbert et al. Nature 344:764-767- 1990).

--
             Andres RUIZ LINARES M.D., Ph.D.
             Department of Genetics
             Stanford University Medical School
             Stanford CA 94305
             Phone: (415) 723-65-06
             Fax: (415) 725-15-34

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Jun 16 23:00:00 1993
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
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Subject: Birds do it (was: Cats pump rabbits/Soon we will all be Yoda)
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Date: 17 Jun 93 15:17:45 GMT
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In article <1993Jun16.000525.13805@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <1vl086$3je@umd5.umd.edu>, Bill Williams <bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu> writes,
>referring to ring species and species definitions:
>> "As long as gene flow occurs between two populations, they belong to
>> the same species even if their members cannot breed together.  For
			.
			.
			.
>By this definition, most of the Orchidaceae, the largest family of 
>flowering plants, becomes a single species... 
>
>In truth, there doesn't seem to be a simple definition of species
>appropriate to all groups of organisms -- the best I'm able
>to come up with, is "A species is a group delineated a competent taxonomist
>familiar with the organisms in question."  (yes, tongue in cheek).
			.
			.
			.
Kay is, of course, quite right in pointing out to what extent
some of the other kingdoms mock our zoo-centric "definitions".

My proposal is that we give up on (well, at least postpone for
a bit) definition-hunting, and pursue the study of particular
cases.  One that caught my eye recently is

	Parsons, Thomas J., Storrs L. Olson, and
	Michael J. Braun
	1993	"Unidirectional Spread of Secondary
		Plumage Traits Across an Avian Hy-
		brid Zone", Science, volume 260,
		pages 1643-1646 (11 June 1993)

As the abstract summarizes, "Theory predicts that traits under
positive selection can rapidly cross a hybrid zone in spite of
a substantial barrier to neutral gene flow between hybridizing
taxa.  An avian hybrid zone ... is reported here that displays
an unusual patter of noncoincident clines.  ... [S]exual sel-
ection is driving male sexual traits across the zone."  I wish
I could come up with something novel, but sexual selection 
continues to be, as a number of senior biologists have publicly
opined, the big story we need to understand.

I've adjusted follow-ups a bit.
-- 

Cameron Laird
claird@Neosoft.com (claird%Neosoft.com@uunet.uu.net)	+1 713 267 7966
claird@litwin.com (claird%litwin.com@uunet.uu.net)  	+1 713 996 8546

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Jun 16 23:00:00 1993
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From: rogers@ANTHRO.UTAH.EDU (Alan R. Rogers)
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Subject: Snowbird weather
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This announcement is for the benefit of people who may now be packing
for the joint meetings of the Society for the Study of Evolution, the
American Society of Naturalists, and the Society of Systematic
Biologists, which are being held this year at Snowbird, near Salt Lake
City UT.

During the past few days the temperature has ranged from a low of
about 40 to a high in the low 70s.  It is raining now, but a warming
trend is predicted over the weekend.  They still have snow, a few
people are still skiing, and at least one lift has been operating on
weekends.

Bring a sweater.


Alan R. Rogers
 INTERNET  : rogers@anthro.utah.edu
 USMAIL    : Dept. of Anthropology, Univ. of Utah, S.L.C., UT 84112
 WORK PHONE: (801) 581-5529
 HOME PHONE: (801) 486-6013
 FAX       : (801) 581-6252

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Jun 17 23:00:00 1993
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From: rmm@capella.labvis.unam.mx (Ricardo Mercado Mendoza)
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Subject: Huron's food
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What can a Domestic Huron(Mustela) eat?

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Jun 17 23:00:00 1993
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From: bell-peter@yale.edu (Peter Bell)
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Subject: Re: Birds do it (was: Cats pump rabbits/Soon we will all be Yoda)
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Date: 18 Jun 93 03:39:18 GMT
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In article <C8ruHM.4Du@sugar.NeoSoft.COM> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:

>Kay is, of course, quite right in pointing out to what extent
>some of the other kingdoms mock our zoo-centric "definitions".

Man, I hate it when the fungi laugh at me....

-Peter
bell@minerva.cis.yale.edu

(but when they laugh *with* me, that's ok...)

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jun 21 23:00:00 1993
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From: shockert@mac.cc.macalstr.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Clamity
Message-ID: <1993Jun22.153610.6601@mac.cc.macalstr.edu>
Date: 22 Jun 93 21:36:10 GMT
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hi folks,
	due to the rains in the last week, the Cannon River in southern
Minnesota has flooded, leaving us freshwater mussel people indoors to ponder
the question of growth bands and giving us too much free time.
	Does anyone have any ideas about randomness of the distribution of
freshwater mussels (particularly unionids, but not exclusively) in different
types of substrate?  I've noticed a tendency for mussels to inhabit rockier
substrates, but at the same time see a fairly random distribution of particular
species.  What might influence the distribution: behavior of fish hosts, river
current (we are assuming a river environment-I forgot to mention), stability of
substrate, ability of different substrates to accomodate nutrients, anything
else?  Any ideas would be great and sources of field studies would be
wonderful.  Incidentally, two such field studies are in the process
concurrently at the St. Croix River in Minnesota and the Cannon River in
Minnesota through Macalester College and Carleton College, respectively.
Thanks, and I hope the summer is well for everyone
							Shawn

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Jun 22 23:00:00 1993
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From: pneel@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Paul Neel)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio,sci.bio,misc.health.diabetes,sci.anthropology,sci.med.nutrition,sci.med,sci.research
Subject: Help! Research Proj: diabetes/alcohol/Pima
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Date: 23 Jun 93 14:39:04 GMT
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The following is posted on behalf of my wife to
facilitate the realization of a dream.  She has worked full-
time + and simultaneously earned her baccalaureate degree in
under six years.  She is now working half-time and is hoping
to complete her doctorate before she is too old to use it.

Paul Neel
___________________________________________________________

I am a graduate student in Anthropology at Purdue
University.  I am currently working on research involving
the Piman speaking peoples of the Gila and Salt reservations
of Arizona.  My query concerns the high incidence of
diabetes in these peoples and how it may or may not
correlate with the high incidence of alcoholism.
   The information that I need concerns the current rate
of diabetes in that population.  I have found articles
concerning the past percentages of diabetics in the native
American population and the Pima population in particular; I
have found results of experiments among the Pima where the
percentage was so high that control groups had to be
solicited from the outside population; my problem is that
none of these articles gives the current percentage of the
population that is thought to carry the genetic
predisposition to the disease.

   The primary information that I need is:
* the current incidence of diabetes in that population,
* the current percentage of genetic predisposition,
* the current incidence of alcoholism.

   If you have information relative to these specific
anomalies or to related medical/genetic/social anomalies of
this population, I would appreciate access to it.
   If you know of library or other resource references to
these problems/conditions, I would appreciate appropriate
references.
   If you know of persons who have knowledge of, or who are
studying these problems/conditions, I would appreciate
contact information.

   Please respond by e-mail.  I have pursued the obvious
research routes available locally but I know there is more
information out there.

Thank you.

Mary-Ann Neel

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Jun 29 23:00:00 1993
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From: stolk@fwi.uva.nl (Bram)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Simulating chromosome distribution.
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Hi,

I have been wandering about a far relative of mine.
We both have a common great grand father.

Since I think the relative is a bit 'wacky' and 'weird' I was wondering:
How much are we actually alike?
I mean this in: how many of my genes are the same as his?

So me and my far relative teamed up to do some math.
We failed desperately, since we concluded on 12.5%

As it turns outm, the math behind it is VERY simple, but to find out
we had to do some coding (we both have MSc's in computer Science)

We came up with the following code:

------- cut here and you'll mess up a perfectly OK monitor ----


#include <stdio.h>


int size;
int *pool0,*poola1,*poolb1,*poola2,*poolb2,*poola3,*poolb3;

void fuck(pool,size,newpool)
int *pool;
int size;
int *newpool;
{
  int marked=0;
  int pick;
 
  while (marked<size/2) {
    pick = random()%size;
    if (pool[pick]!=-1) {
      newpool[marked++] = pool[pick];
      pool[pick]=-1;
    }
  }
}

int compare_ints(i,j)
int *i,*j;
{
  return (*i- *j);
}

void main(argc,argv) 
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
  int nrfound=0;
  int i,j,pa,pb;

  if (argc!=2) {
     fprintf("Usage: %s steekproefgrootte\n",argv[0]);
    exit(1);
  }
  srandom(time(NULL));
  size = atoi(argv[1]);
  pool0 = (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size);
  poola1= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/2);
  poolb1= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/2);
  poola2= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/4);
  poolb2= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/4);
  poola3= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/8);
  poolb3= (int *)malloc(sizeof(int)*size/8);

  for (i=0; i<size; i++)
    pool0[i] = i;
  fuck(pool0,size,poola1);
  fuck(poola1,size/2,poola2);
  fuck(poola2,size/4,poola3);

  for (i=0; i<size; i++)
    pool0[i] = i;
  fuck(pool0,size,poolb1);
  fuck(poolb1,size/2,poolb2);
  fuck(poolb2,size/4,poolb3);

#if 0
  for (i=0; i<size/8; i++) {
    for (j=0; j<size/8; j++)
      if (poola3[i]==poolb3[j]) { 
        nrfound++;
        printf("[%d],",poola3[i]);
        /* break; */
      }
  }
  printf("nr found = %d\n",nrfound);
  nrfound=0;
#endif

  qsort(poola3,size/8,sizeof(int),compare_ints);
  qsort(poolb3,size/8,sizeof(int),compare_ints);

#if 0
  printf("\npoola = ");for(i=0; i<size/8; i++) printf("%d,",poola3[i]);
  printf("\npoolb = ");for(i=0; i<size/8; i++) printf("%d,",poolb3[i]);
#endif

  pa=0; pb=0;
  while(pa<size/8 && pb<size/8) {
    if (poola3[pa]==poolb3[pb]) {
      nrfound++;
      pa++; pb++;
    } else {
      if (poola3[pa]<poolb3[pb]) pa++; else pb++;
    }
  }
  printf("nr found = %d\n",nrfound);

  printf("After 3 generations, %f percent is the same\n",
         (nrfound/(double)size)*100.0);
}


--- cut here----


Any comments?

	Take care,


		bram

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Jun 29 23:00:00 1993
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From: wang_dj@syzygy.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: % of budget spent on Computing
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--
I have just been asked by a friend if it would be possible to find out
about what percentage of budgets go toward computing needs.  I don't
know weather anyone out there can provide me with this information --
if not, does anyone know where one might look?  My friend is
especially interested in knowing the figures in fields of demography/
population dynamics.

Thank You...

David Wang
_______________________________________________________________________________
David J. Wang                            Salmon Buffer (pH = 6.2)
wang_dj@server.cs.jhu.edu                SalmonH <-> Salmon- + H+
_______________________________________________________________________________

