From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Jan 02 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!hubcap!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!ames!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!mercury.wright.edu!desire.wright.edu!sbishop From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu (Sue Bishop) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Population Control in White-tailed Deer Message-ID: <1994Jan1.102303.16784@desire.wright.edu> Date: 1 Jan 94 10:23:03 EST Organization: Wright State University Lines: 8 Perhaps someone in this group might be interested in joining the discussion on talk.politics.animals. There is an Animal Rights activist who insists that white-tailed deer populations will stabilize without predation or hunting. Several of us are trying to convince him that the deer will cause serious environmental damage long before their numbers stabilize. Sue From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 03 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: "" Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Fst for pooled samples Date: 4 Jan 1994 19:21:47 -0000 Lines: 50 Sender: daemon@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <2gcfkb$t8t@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: population-biology@NET.bio.net Dear fellow pop.bio.netters! <> Last time when we asked you for an advice (in a posting by Sam Scheiner a couple of weeks ago) we were quite pleased by the number of helpful responces. So now I decided to use the same way to get another piece of advice. Here is the problem: I have some allozyme data on the population structure of Lake Baikal endemic gammarids (the first of this kind for this remerkable example of very rich endemic faunas of ancient lakes). The species in question, Spinacanthus parasiticus, inhabit sponges. I have 7 samples from different parts of the lake. Unfortunately, the way we collected samples allowed us to have only pooled samples from 3-4 sponge individuals, from within the range of 50-100m. In one sample I have 6 subsamples from individual sponges, which show considerable differentiation (Fst=0.11). Pooled samples show heterozygote deficiency, apparently due to Wahlund. A reviewer of the paper complaned that we failed to sample individual demes and our Fst values do not therefore make sense. Here are the questions: 1.Is calculating Fst for pooled samples valid? (Seems to be, for only allele frequencies come into the formula, which shouldn't affected by pooling). 2.Is the program I's using (which is BIOSYS) OK? Why does it give me different results with and without pooling, i.e, why the Fst from (hierarchical) WRIGHT78 unit different from the Fst given by FSTAT unit for the pooled samples? 3.If pooling is not kosher, is there a way to overcome this problem, taking into account that in one sample I know the degree of differentiation and there are all reasons to believe that the other ones are differentiated in a same way. What I'm actually interested in, is the degree of differentiation and possible number of migrants among the upper-level populations. (I can't use Slatkin's method - not enough rare alleles.) All advices would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance and Happy New Year! Lev Yampolsky Dept. of Biological Sciences Northern Illinois University DeKalb IL 60115 From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 03 22:00:00 1994 Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!pbmac-11.ucdavis.edu!user From: mezwick@ucdavis.edu (Mike Zwick) Subject: Re: Fst for pooled samples Message-ID: Followup-To: bionet.population-bio Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Administrator) Organization: UC Davis Dept of Ecology and Evolution References: <2gcfkb$t8t@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Distribution: bionet Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 20:24:22 GMT Lines: 24 In article <2gcfkb$t8t@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, "" wrote: Here are the questions: > 1.Is calculating Fst for pooled samples valid? (Seems to be, for > only allele frequencies come into the formula, which shouldn't > affected by pooling). Fst measures the probability of homozygosity of two randomly chosen alleles due to population subdivision. One formula to measure it is Fst = Gs-Gt/1-Gt where Gs = prob of two genes drawn at random from a randomly chosen subdivision are identical and Gt = the probability that two genes drawn at random from the entire species or sample are identical. Thus Fst can be seen as a measure of the difference of the above probabilities. Now if you are pooling data which really should be in separate subdivisions (or demes) of the population, then I think you could have some problems. I'm not sure if the above will be helpful, and am not too familiar with the computer programs that you mention. -- mike zwick mezwick@ucdavis.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Jan 04 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: "Kent E. Holsinger" Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Pooled Fst Date: 5 Jan 1994 14:00:39 -0000 Lines: 39 Sender: daemon@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <2geh67$oeh@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Original-To: population-biology@net.bio.net Lev Yampolsky asks: 1) Is calculating Fst for pooled samples valid? As always, it depends. Fst is a *hierarchical* statistic. Let's suppose that you have three levels in the hierarchy: demes (d), samples (s), and the total sample (t). Then Fit (the inbreeding coefficient in the total sample) can be written as: (1-Fit) = (1-Fid)(1-Fds)(1-Fst) , where Fid is the correlation between gametes within demes, Fds is the correlation between gametes due to differences among demes within a sample, and Fst is the correlation between gametes due to differences among samples. The "differences" of which I speak are differences in allele frequency. Thus, for the situation Yampolsky describes, it *is* possible to calculate Fst from the variance in allele frequencies among samples. What it reflects, however, is differentiation among the samples, not differentiation among demes. Whether or not that difference is important depends on the purposes of the study. It is possible to show, extending some of Monty Slatkin's recent results, that Fst calculated at any of the hierarchical levels is related to the coalescence time of alleles drawn at random from that level in the hierarchy. To the extent that the coalescence time reflects primarily the extent of migration among units at that level in the hierarchy, Fst provides an indication of migration at that level. Thus, in Yampolsky's case Fst among pooled samples provides an indication of the extent of migration among different sampling units. -- Kent +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Kent E. Holsinger Internet: Holsinge@UConnVM.UConn.edu | | Dept. of Ecology & BITNET: Holsinge@UConnVM | | Evolutionary Biology, U-43 | | University of Connecticut | | Storrs, CT 06269-3043 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Jan 05 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!pipex!uunet!ulowell!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!qucdn!promislo Organization: Queen's University at Kingston Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 10:45:01 EST From: Message-ID: <94006.104501PROMISLO@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: temp. CV & dens. dep. in birds Lines: 15 I'm looking for information on temporal variation in population size, and estimates of density dependence, in North American birds. Pimm has gathered data on temporal CV in British birds (see Strong et al.'s Ecological Communities) and Greenwood et al. have estimated density dependence for the same species (Ibis [suppl] 133, 1992). Is anyone aware of similar work that has been or is currently being done for North American species? Replies can be sent directly to promislo@biology.queensu.ca Thanks! Daniel Promislow From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 14 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!gatech!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!jester.usask.ca!lur From: lur@jester.usask.ca (Rui Lu) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Conferences? Date: 15 Jan 1994 18:06:20 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 12 Message-ID: <2h9bas$3p8@tribune.usask.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am getting to my final year of my graduate program. I want to get some exposure at some related meetings, such as those on population genetics, molecular evolution or general biology meetings covering the two topics? However, I seem to have trouble in finding these meetings. Any helpful info is very much appreciated. -- Ray Lu | lur@jester.usask.ca or | "When life is a belief, life is a relief." lur@sask.usask.ca | Ph:(306)966-4440/4442 | From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 17 22:00:00 1994 Newsgroups: sci.bio.ecology,bit.listserv.ecolog-l,bionet.molbio.evolution,bionet.population-bio Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!nntpserver.pppl.gov!princeton!phoenix.Princeton.EDU!harnad From: harnad@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Stevan Harnad) Subject: Group Selection Theory: BBS Call for Commentary Message-ID: <1994Jan18.022032.18532@Princeton.EDU> Followup-To: sender Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: phoenix.princeton.edu Organization: Princeton University Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 02:20:32 GMT Lines: 124 Xref: biosci sci.bio.ecology:1469 bionet.molbio.evolution:1349 bionet.population-bio:547 Below is the abstract of a forthcoming target article by: David Sloan Wilson & Elliott Sober on: "RE-INTRODUCING GROUP SELECTION TO THE HUMAN BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES" This article has been accepted for publication in Behavioral and Brain Sciences (BBS), an international, interdisciplinary journal providing Open Peer Commentary on important and controversial current research in the biobehavioral and cognitive sciences. 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An electronic draft of the full text is available for inspection by anonymous ftp according to the instructions that follow after the abstract. ____________________________________________________________________ RE-INTRODUCING GROUP SELECTION TO THE HUMAN BEHAVIORAL SCIENCES David Sloan Wilson Department of Biological Sciences State University of New York at Binghamton Binghamton New York 13902-6000 DWILSON@BINGVAXA.BitNet Elliott Sober Department of Philosophy University of Wisconsin 5185 Helen C. White Hall 600 North Park Street Madison Wisconsin 53706 ESober@VMS.MACC.Wisc.edu KEYWORDS: culture; evolution; group selection; kin selection; inclusive fitness; natural selection; reciprocity; social organization; units of selection. ABSTRACT: In both biology and the human sciences, social groups are sometimes treated as adaptive units whose organization cannot be reduced to individual interactions. This group-level view is opposed by a more individualistic view that treats social organization as a byproduct of self-interest. According to biologists, group-level adaptations can evolve only by a process of natural selection at the group level. During the 1960's and 70's most biologists rejected group selection as an important evolutionary force but a positive literature began to grow during the 70's and is rapidly expanding today. We review this recent literature and its implications for human evolutionary biology. We show that the rejection of group selection was based on a misplaced emphasis on genes as "replicators" which is in fact irrelevant to the question of whether groups can be like individuals in their functional organization. The fundamental question is whether social groups and other higher-level entities can be "vehicles" of selection. When this elementary fact is recognized, group selection emerges as an important force in nature and ostensible alternatives, such as kin selection and reciprocity, reappear as special cases of group selection. The result is a unified theory of natural selection that operates on a nested hierarchy of units. The vehicle-based theory makes it clear that group selection is an important force to consider in human evolution. Humans can facultatively span the full range from self-interested individuals to "organs" of group-level "organisms." Human behavior not only reflects the balance between levels of selection but it can also alter the balance through the construction of social structures that have the effect of reducing fitness differences within groups, concentrating natural selection (and functional organization) at the group level. These social structures and the cognitive abilities that produce them allow group selection to be important even among large groups of unrelated individuals. -------------------------------------------------------------- To help you decide whether you would be an appropriate commentator for this article, an electronic draft is retrievable by anonymous ftp from princeton.edu according to the instructions below (the filename is bbs.wilson). Please do not prepare a commentary on this draft. Just let us know, after having inspected it, what relevant expertise you feel you would bring to bear on what aspect of the article. 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Thanks again for your cooperation! --------------- please cut here and return portion below --------------- New information or Update to old record (enter N or U): date (DD-MM-YY): first name: middle initial: family name: job title: e-mail address: e-mail network: phone number: FAX number: institution: address1: address2: address3: city: state/province: country: postal code: research interest: research interest: comment: comment: comment: comment: comment: From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 24 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: FTP SITES Date: 25 Jan 1994 20:41:08 -0000 Lines: 7 Sender: daemon@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <2i4054$rb@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> X-Envelope-To: POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.BIO.NET X-Vms-To: VAXTM1::IN%"POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.BIO.NET" Original-To: POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.bio.net Hi All, I have two questions.... 1. Does anyone know of ftp sites at which I may find source code for either matrix models or....shareware for the same? 2. If not, how about commercial vendors of some good modeling packages. Thanks in advance!!!! From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 28 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!concert!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!athena.cs.uga.edu!phoenix.cs.uga.edu!shepard From: shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu () Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Populus Software Date: 29 Jan 1994 20:17:40 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 9 Message-ID: <2ieg94$nf4@athena.cs.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.uga.edu Greetings, I am trying to find the ftp site for a piece of software which models populations. It is called populus, but I don't know where it's at. Does anybody know where to get this? Thanks, Erik Shepard shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 28 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!uknet!daresbury!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: FTP SITES Date: 25 Jan 1994 20:41:08 -0000 Lines: 7 Sender: daemon@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <2i4054$rb@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> X-Envelope-To: POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.BIO.NET X-Vms-To: VAXTM1::IN%"POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.BIO.NET" Original-To: POPULATION-BIOLOGY@NET.bio.net Hi All, I have two questions.... 1. Does anyone know of ftp sites at which I may find source code for either matrix models or....shareware for the same? 2. If not, how about commercial vendors of some good modeling packages. Thanks in advance!!!! From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 28 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!lhc!darwin.sura.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!concert!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!athena.cs.uga.edu!phoenix.cs.uga.edu!shepard From: shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu () Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Populus Software Date: 29 Jan 1994 20:17:40 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 9 Message-ID: <2ieg94$nf4@athena.cs.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.uga.edu Greetings, I am trying to find the ftp site for a piece of software which models populations. It is called populus, but I don't know where it's at. Does anybody know where to get this? Thanks, Erik Shepard shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 28 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!hamblin.math.byu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!concert!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!athena.cs.uga.edu!phoenix.cs.uga.edu!shepard From: shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu () Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Populus Software Date: 29 Jan 1994 20:17:40 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 9 Message-ID: <2ieg94$nf4@athena.cs.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.uga.edu Greetings, I am trying to find the ftp site for a piece of software which models populations. It is called populus, but I don't know where it's at. Does anybody know where to get this? Thanks, Erik Shepard shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Jan 28 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!decwrl!decwrl!concert!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!athena.cs.uga.edu!phoenix.cs.uga.edu!shepard From: shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu () Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Populus Software Date: 29 Jan 1994 20:17:40 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 9 Message-ID: <2ieg94$nf4@athena.cs.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.uga.edu Greetings, I am trying to find the ftp site for a piece of software which models populations. It is called populus, but I don't know where it's at. Does anybody know where to get this? Thanks, Erik Shepard shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Jan 30 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!news-feed-2.peachnet.edu!athena.cs.uga.edu!phoenix.cs.uga.edu!shepard From: shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu () Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Populus Software Date: 31 Jan 1994 15:02:14 GMT Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 5 Message-ID: <2ij6hm$54r@athena.cs.uga.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.cs.uga.edu To everyone who replied to my original post about Populus, thanks. I ftp'd tlo ecology.ecology.umn.edu and found it there. Regards, Erik Shepard From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Jan 30 22:00:00 1994 Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!xlink.net!scsing.switch.ch!aragorn.unibe.ch!news From: shiner@pyl.unibe.ch (JS Shiner) Subject: Gordon Conf.: Modern Developments in Thermodynamics Message-ID: <1994Jan31.114052.25681@aragorn.unibe.ch> Sender: news@aragorn.unibe.ch Reply-To: shiner@pyl.unibe.ch Organization: Dept. of Physiol., Univ. of Bern, Switzerland Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 11:40:52 GMT Lines: 176 Gordon Research Conference -------------------------- Modern Developments in Thermodynamics ------------------------------------- October 2-7 1994 Irsee, Bavaria, Germany Chair: J.S. Shiner, University of Bern, Switzerland Vice Chair: Peter Salamon, San Diego State University, USA Program ------- Nonequilibrium Statistical Thermodynamics & Dynamical Systems Theory Chair: B.H. Lavenda, Univ. of Camerino, Italy Speakers: W. 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Shiner Physiologisches Institut Universitaet Bern Buehlplatz 5 CH-3012 Bern Switzerland Phone: + 41 / 31 / 631 87 22 Fax: + 41 / 31 / 631 46 11 Email: shiner@pyl.unibe.ch From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Jan 30 22:00:00 1994 Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!news.lth.se!news.lu.se!lotka.teorekol.lu.se!siglun From: siglun@lotka.teorekol.lu.se (Sigfrid Lundberg) Subject: Re: Populus Software Message-ID: <1994Jan31.070039.14442@nomina.lu.se> Sender: news@nomina.lu.se (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: lotka.teorekol.lu.se Organization: Lund university References: <2ieg94$nf4@athena.cs.uga.edu> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 07:00:39 GMT Lines: 34 >Greetings, > >I am trying to find the ftp site for a piece of software which models >populations. It is called populus, but I don't know where it's at. >Does anybody know where to get this? > >Thanks, >Erik Shepard >shepard@phoenix.cs.uga.edu Well, Archie archie does. It says: Host sunsite.unc.edu Location: /pub/academic/biology/ecology+evolution/software/pc/.cap FILE -rw-r--r-- 32 Dec 4 20:01 populus Location: /pub/academic/biology/ecology+evolution/software/pc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 14 18:28 populus Host ftp.uwp.edu Location: /pub/games/romulus/hints FILE -rw-rw-r-- 2484 Sep 22 03:41 populus2.codes We've used in our undergraduate level courses in theoretical ecology and it is good and easy to use. This piece of software is developed in David Tilman's group, and is distributed as binaries for the IBM PC only (as far as we know). Cheers Sigfrid From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 31 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!CS.Arizona.EDU!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!hamblin.math.byu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!network.ucsd.edu!sdcc15.ucsd.edu!pshames From: pshames@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Paul Shames) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: US 1965 population Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 07:42:19 Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 10 Distribution: na Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pshames.extern.ucsd.edu Keywords: US population X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] I am interested in finding out what the population of the US was in 1965. I recall going to the Worlds Fair in New York and seeing the large sign that showed the present population (it was constantly changing). The number that sticks in my head was 115 million. Now that seems awfully low to me. That would mean in thirty years we have more than doubled our population. Anybody have some numbers they know (or recall) from that time? Thanks, Paul From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Jan 31 22:00:00 1994 Path: biosci!daresbury!keele!uknet!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msuinfo!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!uniwa!newsman!Jim.Cummins From: cummins@possum.murdoch.edu.au (Jim Cummins) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio,bionet.general,sci.misc Subject: China- eugenics Date: 1 Feb 1994 07:03:53 GMT Organization: Murdoch University, Western Australia Lines: 30 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[6523] Message-ID: <2ikuspINNni0@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: vetmac3.csu.murdoch.edu.au X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0@newsman.csu.murdoch.edu.au. Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Xref: biosci bionet.population-bio:558 bionet.general:7497 sci.misc:2182 According to recent reports (eg Nature, January 6) China has announced a law to eliminate "inferior births" by forbidding certain groups from reproducing. This negative eugenics approach, while I guess is understandable in principle given China's crushing population problem, poses great risks for human rights. People with " hereditary disease", along with "mental illness" and even hepatitis, will be forbidden to marry and may well be subjected to forced abortion if they try to reproduce . There seems little doubt that this will be used as a political means of controlling minorities: the Minister of Public Health, Chen Minzhang indicated that "inferior births" are common in ethnic minorities, the frontier and economically poor areas. i believe there should be public condemnation of this retrogressive step. We know far too little about the genetic control of "mental illness", for example, to be attempting to control it. As the editorial in Nature says, "The experience of the former Soviet Union is that the practise of psychiatry can easily become an extension of the penal system, a means of expressing social (or at least official) disapproval. It will be remarkable if China remains perpetually free from the temptation to follwo suit (even if the chances of finding a gene for political dissent are slim)." Add your voice to the protest now, while it's still possible to influence the introduction of this law. Jim Cummins School of Veterinary Studies Murdoch University Western Australia 6150 Tel +61-9-360 2668 Fax +61-9-310 4144 "An inordinate fondness for Beetles"