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From: Timo Turpeinen <timo.turpeinen@mtt.fi>
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Subject: Re: is there a problem w/ population?
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ZUCP44A@prodigy.com (Theodore Oberman) wrote:
>Whether or not the ideal world has humans utilizing 100 percent of the 
>available resources is another question entirely.  No, probably no one 
>wants to live in that type of world, but that doesn't change the fact 
>that overpopulation should, for the foreseeable future, be relegated to 
>the realm of science fiction, not science.
>
>Theodore Oberman
> 
>



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From: Timo Turpeinen <timo.turpeinen@mtt.fi>
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ZUCP44A@prodigy.com (Theodore Oberman) wrote:
>Whether or not the ideal world has humans utilizing 100 percent of the 
>available resources is another question entirely.  No, probably no one 
>wants to live in that type of world, but that doesn't change the fact 
>that overpopulation should, for the foreseeable future, be relegated to 
>the realm of science fiction, not science.
>
>Theodore Oberman
> 
>



From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 02 22:00:00 1996
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From: tim <tgibbons@nitrogen.helios.nd.edu>
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Subject: Malthus
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 19:55:11 -0500
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I have a question.

Malthus said that population grows geometrically.
Malthus said that food production does not grow geometrically.

Has food production grown geometrically.

My anthropology professor asked me if food production has grown
exponentially, and i told him, "yah."  And the guy shot me down.
hard.

He told me how we're not making any great strides in the amt of food we
can grow in the Midwest US.

I think his focus is way too narrow.  Look at all the major companies
like Sara Lee and McDonald's churning out food today.  Look at the new
biotechnology products that are coming out.  The amount of food seems to
be keeping up with the population.  If this is so, and the pop is
growing exponentially, then isn't the food production growing
exponentially as well?

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From: Mike Noreen <ev-michael@nrm.se>
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Subject: Re: Malthus
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tim wrote:

> I think his focus is way too narrow.  Look at all the major companies
> like Sara Lee and McDonald's churning out food today.  Look at the new
> biotechnology products that are coming out.  The amount of food seems to
> be keeping up with the population.  If this is so, and the pop is
> growing exponentially, then isn't the food production growing
> exponentially as well?

Food production grows linearly, population logarithmically. In the end,
the log growth will outstrip any linear growth. As others have pointed
out, if projected a couple of hundred years into the future, the human 
race will form solid layers around the globe, growing outwards with
the speed of light... We'll never get to that, of course, since food and 
environment will limit growth long before then.

Also, the increase in food has to a large degree come about by opening
new foodsources - we today eat many things which was not considered
food just 50 years ago, particularly wrt seafood. Typical examples would
be algae and deep sea fish (and immature fish). However, there is no more 
land to till, no more untapped food resources in the sea - all further 
growth must come from making existing food production more efficient.
Increasing efficiency is generally accomplished by the use of 
insecticides, genetic manipulation and machinery - something which is 
difficult in the developing countries, and increasingly impopular in the 
developed countries due to environmental concern.

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From: mats@tripnet.se (Mats Liljedahl)
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Subject: Re: is there a problem w/ population?
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Carl J R Johansson wrote:

>My country
>(Finland) is one of the most equal in the world and a couple of years
>ago we had zero population growth (I think it was actually declining).
>
>If women have their career to worry about they don't have much spare
>time for many kids, but if they are supposed to handle the household
>they can use as many helping hands as possible. 
>
>The situation in Islamic countries is of course still pretty bad, and
>the repression there is not even decreed by the religion, it's only an
>ancient Arabic custom. 

It is all too easy to blame other countries. Take a look at the high
level of unemployment in Finland. 

I live in Sweden not so far away. The population here has increased
rapidly the last decade.  The welfare state has meanwhile largely
disappeared.  The reason is politics.  We have had EU's largest
immigration, per capita.  We also have had a one year maternity leave
with full pay.

Mats Liljedahl

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In article <4e0ft2$mdl@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI>,
cjjohans@cc.Helsinki.FI (Carl J R Johansson) wrote:

> According to my information only the U.S., Argentina and Australia & New
> Zeeland are net exporters of food today, the rest of the world is a net
> importer if one treats Europe and Asia as single units (with big overall food
> deficits). 

You forgot Canada.  Western Europe exports 6 million metric tons of wheat
a year, too.  This is out of a worldwide international trade of about
400 million metric tons a year.  The total USA production is about 
700 to 750 million metric tons a year.  Any surplus that doesn't find
a market ends up as animal feed.  

World supplies right now are adequate for 50 days, which is considered 
a crisis condition.  Approximately 3 billion people have their diet 
supplemented by imported grains.  If there is a short crop in 1996,
10% of these people could experience famine conditions, up from only
about 50 million this year.  Projections are for a much larger harvest,
since wheat prices are up and so is acreage.  

A lot of people have their fingers crossed.

For the Malthusians among you, plague becomes a real problem after the
population is weakened by starvation.  You don't need exotic diseases,
influenza has a good shot at killing you if you haven't had a balanced
diet in 6 months.

-- Larry

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 (Carl J R Johansson) writes:


>LWinn (lwinn@aol.com) wrote:
>: >>One scenario could be that the excess population won't be content with
>: >>starving to death, they might try to take food and land from others by
>: >>means of war. 

>: Sounds nasty, CJ. What arrangement do you prefer?

>Well, I don't think a nuclear power like the U.S. should have much to
>worry about.

This is interesting... are you suggesting the US would actually use nuclear 
weapons to prevent an invasion by starving masses from elsewhere?  An 
interesting strategy given that if you're going to nuke a piece of 
land you may just as well let the other guy have it...  

> I was more considering China, the government there will
>stop at nothing to stay in power and famine has toppled many rulers
>before them. So they might take "Lebensraum" (roughly "living space")
>from their neighbours to sustain their population like Nazi Germany
>claimed it was doing. 

>I would probably prefer some kind of natural cause curbing the growth
>until higher global standards of living reduce it permanently. AIDS
>would be relatively harmless compared to war, and it only affects those
>who practise loose relationships (but still are quite likely to get kids
>at least in Third World Countries). It can possible also be a deterrent.

Oh yes, and while we're being so politically uncorrect let's not worry about 
those genetically inferior haemophiliacs, or drug addicts, or surgeons, or 
dentists.  And lets argue for the complete iradication of any society who 
doesn't conform to your personal concept of morality.  Yes, AIDS is great, it 
only kills the bad people.  NOT.  Get real.  Education is the key, not hoping 
for some nice natural population reducing solution so we in the first world 
can go on sitting in our nice houses watching our TV's with enough to eat and 
not feel guilty any more. 

>Carl Johansson
>http://www.helsinki.fi/~cjjohans/

Bill
----------------------------------------------------
Bill Burnett - bbur@wpo.nerc.ac.uk
Scottish Association for Marine Science
P.O. Box 3, Oban, Argyll PA34 4AD, UK

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Larry Caldwell (larryc@teleport.com) wrote:
: In article <4e0ft2$mdl@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI>,
: cjjohans@cc.Helsinki.FI (Carl J R Johansson) wrote:

: > According to my information only the U.S., Argentina and Australia & New
: > Zeeland are net exporters of food today, the rest of the world is a net
: > importer if one treats Europe and Asia as single units (with big overall food
: > deficits). 

: You forgot Canada.  

Probably true.

Western Europe exports 6 million metric tons of wheat
: a year, too.  This is out of a worldwide international trade of about
: 400 million metric tons a year.  

I was talking about geographical Europe (including European Russia).
This export is heavely subsidized, even to such an extent that some food
has to be thrown away (pig food etc, they normally eat low-quality
crops). The reasons are political as self-sufficiency is seen as
important. But it would not be very viable in a recession situation when
there would be little money to spend on it.  


cj
  



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Subject: Re: Five Questions
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96.01.29, LWinn wrote:
LW> Is biological equilibrium feasible?

LW> I pose four questions.

LW> First, if living systems are contained in a territorial sense, can they
LW> survive indefinitely? 

Well, that depends on what you mean by "living systems," "contained," and
"indefinitely," doesn't it?  For all of my examples to follow, I'll propose
a hypothetical kettle lake without permanent surface water inflow or outflow
as a "living system".  Such a lake can support a "living system" within a
"contained territory" "indefinitely".  The community may change over time,
but it will always contain life.  Even after some millenia when the lake
finally becomes a marsh it will still contain life.  I really don't
understand the question, I guess...

LW> Second, how is the species distribution in isolated biomes affected
LW> affected by containment?

Again, maybe I'm dense, or something, but the answer to this question seems
obvious.  The species distribution is determined _at_ containment and
constrained _by_ containment.  After all, isn't this what we mean when we
use the word "containment"?  For example, if certain fish species colonised
a lake during the last glacial retreat, we're stuck with it, aren't we?  We
may lose some of those species over time, but we're unlikely to gain any
through natural processes.

LW> Third, how are the life spans and age distributions in selected species
LW> affected by containment?

Since you haven't really defined what you mean by "containment", let alone
"selected species", this question is impossible to answer!

LW> Finally, how is the response of the contained system to external
LW> disturbances, like the sudden introduction or elimination of a predator,
LW> different from the response of a community that is free to expand?

That would depend on the community.  Some communities are very diverse and
may be more effectively "buffered" against disturbances.  I think this is,
however, unrelated to containment.  If we accept, for the moment, that all
living system operate within constraints, then containment becomes just one
of a possible set of constraints.  After all, if we want to think of the
entire planet as an ecosystem, it's still "territorially constrained", no?

LW> Who cares? (Okay that's five.)

LW> It's just a preoccupation of mine, but I believe the answers to questions
LW> like that bear on the viability of ideas like "sustainable development" in
LW> the human community.

That's a mighty big agenda!  I sincerely wish you every success in your
cogitations.  Perhaps if you supplied more information, especially
definitions about your terms, others could help in your endeavour...

--
				|
Dave Fluri			|	"Sereno y desprendido, me dejara
North Bay, Ontario, Canada	|	 el aguila, pasar a la libertad."
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From: spears@bobcat.lmc.edu (Gene Spears)
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Subject: Re: Malthus
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In article <3112B26F.41C67EA6@nitrogen.helios.nd.edu> tim <tgibbons@nitrogen.helios.nd.edu> writes:
>From: tim <tgibbons@nitrogen.helios.nd.edu>
>Subject: Malthus
>Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 19:55:11 -0500

>Malthus said that population grows geometrically.
>Malthus said that food production does not grow geometrically.

>Has food production grown geometrically.

>I think his focus is way too narrow.  Look at all the major companies
>like Sara Lee and McDonald's churning out food today.  Look at the new
>biotechnology products that are coming out.  The amount of food seems to
>be keeping up with the population.  If this is so, and the pop is
>growing exponentially, then isn't the food production growing
>exponentially as well?

	For a very good, up-to date summary of food production, check out he 
new State of the World, 1996, chapter 3 (water will probably be the limiting 
factor in new food production).  Also check out the Nov/Dec Worldwatch 
journal, the cover story is "Facing Food Scarcity".  A nice analysis of 
recent trends in food production.

	Regarding Malthus & his "On Population".  He wasn't projecting into 
the future.  He said that human population is constrained by food supply 
under most conditions (when Europeans colonized the New World in the 18th 
century, a lot of those food constraints disappeared & American populations 
grew very rapidly).  He was a clergyman as well as a mathematician, and was 
trying to explain why a part of humanity would always be impoverished and 
miserable - a direct assault on the prevailing utopian beliefs among many of 
the intelligensia at that time.

	Malthus would argue (and I'd have to agree), that if the human 
population has been growing geometrically, then so has the food supply.  To 
a certain extent, one follows the other.  That's not to say Malthus was 
wrong.  There are lots of ways to grow geometrically, by a factor of 1.1, 2, 
3, ad infinitum.  Malthus woud argue that whatever the human population 
growth rate actually is, it is less than it would be under conditions of 
unlimited food supply.  Hence, always some "misery" and "vice" (which, to 
him, included birth control).

P.S. - just because the food supply has been growing geometrically in the 
past, that doesn't tell us anything about the future.  Check out the 
articles for some sobering statistics.

gene
spears@bobcat.lmc.edu

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Hi All,

I'm looking for estimates of the heritability (preferably broad and
narrow sense) of seed mass in members of the the following grass
genera: Calamagrostis, Phleum, Alopecurus, Cinna, Lamarkia,
Deschampsia, Anthoxanthum, Lygeum, Elymus, Stipa, Brachypodium,
Melica, Tragus, Tricholaena, Phyllostachys, Arundinaria,
Dendrocalamus, Zizinia, and  Andropogon.

I realize that these data probably do not exist for the majority
(perhaps all) of these taxa.  I'm just at a point where my library
search is stalled, and I thought I'd query net-knowledge.  I'd
appreciate direct sources or any suggestions on where to look for this
kind of information.  
Thanks,
Allan

Allan E. Strand                Internet:   astrand@evolution.nmsu.edu
Department of Biology
New Mexico State University    Phone:      (505) 646-1150
Las Cruces, New Mexico  88003  FAX:        (505) 646-5665
-- 
Allan E. Strand                Internet:   astrand@evolution.nmsu.edu
Department of Biology
New Mexico State University    Phone:      (505) 646-1150
Las Cruces, New Mexico  88003  FAX:        (505) 646-5665

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 08 22:00:00 1996
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From: esonderg@aol.com (ESonderg)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Re: Malthus
Date: 8 Feb 1996 21:49:42 -0500
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Mike Noreen wrote:

> the increase in food has to a large degree come about by opening
   new foodsources - we today eat many things which was not considered
   food just 50 years ago, particularly wrt seafood.
> However, there is no more land to till, no more untapped food resources
in the    sea
> All further growth must come from making existing food production more  
    efficient. Increasing efficiency is generally accomplished by the use
of 
   insecticides, genetic manipulation and machinery - something which is 
   difficult in the developing countries, and increasingly impopular in
the 
   developed countries due to environmental concern.

While we work to curb the earth's logarithmic growth, there are other ways
to make our food supply grow faster than linearly.  The easiest way to
accomplish is to use the land to grow non-animal crops.  It takes less
than 1/20th the land to support one pure vegetarian than it does to
support a meat eater.  This can easily be done without harming the
environment.  A good read on this subject is John Robbins' "Diet For a New
America."  Remember where most of the precious rainforests are going...for
cattle to graze so we (not me) can eat our Big Macs.  So, those of you
serious about the population issue should think about what you eat. 
Because our food choices have a tremendous impact.  

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 09 22:00:00 1996
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From: rcaughlan@aol.com (RCAUGHLAN)
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Subject: Re: Malthus
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With regard to "food keeping up" keep this in perspective. Every day
35,000 people (27,000 of them children) already starve to death. That's
the equivalent of l00 jumbo jets crashing every day. Some people will say
there is no problem. Tell that to the 27,000 kids who will die tomorrow.

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 09 22:00:00 1996
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From: Martha Lanclos <mcl7821@ucs.usl.edu>
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Subject: Re: white fronted, snow, Canada geese
Date: 31 Jan 1996 19:10:56 GMT
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Request e-mail correspondence with anyone familiar with, working with,
above populations, migratory routes, resting stages, especially 
Mississippi Valley and Central Flyways.

Thank you.

Martha Lanclos
University of Southwestern Louisiana



From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 10 22:00:00 1996
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

	Contents:
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	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
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and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
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2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
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BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
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The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
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newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
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mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
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really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
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address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
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Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
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for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
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to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
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yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
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Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
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				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 10 22:00:00 1996
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From: mats@tripnet.se (Mats Liljedahl)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Address to Worldwatch?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:27:48 GMT
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Does anyone know the email address to the Worldwatch institute or it's
director Lester Brown? Do they have any home page?

Mats Liljedahl
mats@tripnet.se

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From: Jay Hanson <jhanson@ilhawaii.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Re: Malthus
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 06:52:03 +0000
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Gene Spears wrote:
-> 
-> P.S. - just because the food supply has been growing geometrically in 
the
-> past, that doesn't tell us anything about the future.  Check out the
-> articles for some sobering statistics.

I have a lot of data on this subject in a file called SystemsCRASH.
It is archived at csf.Colorado.EDU (gopher or ftp).
Or I will email it to anyone who asks.
Or check out my home page at:
  http://csf.Colorado.EDU/authors/hanson/index.html

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 13 22:00:00 1996
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======================================================================
We apologize should you receive multiple copies of this CFP from 
different sources.
======================================================================

          ************************************************
          ICONIP'96 EXTENSION OF PAPER SUBMISSION DEADLINE 
          ************************************************

                1996 International Conference
                             on
                Neural Information Processing
  
  The Annual Conference of the Asian Pacific Neural Network Assembly
              ICONIP'96, September 24 - 27, 1996

    Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Center, Wan Chai, Hong Kong

                        In cooperation with
          IEEE / NNC --IEEE Neural Networks Council
          INNS - International Neural Network Society
          ENNS - European Neural Network Society
          JNNS - Japanese Neural Network Society
          CNNC - China Neural Networks Council
  
======================================================================


In consideration of  many requests from Europe, USA as well as Asia Pacific 
region for a possible extension of  paper submission deadline for ICONIP'96, 
the ICONIP'96 Organizing Committee has decided to extend the paper 
submission deadline.


 ----- The Extended Paper Submission Deadline :   March 10, 1996 ----


The goal of ICONIP'96 is to provide a forum for researchers and
engineers from academia and industry to meet and to exchange ideas on
the latest developments in neural information processing.  The
conference also further serves to stimulate local and regional
interests in neural information processing and its potential
applications to industries indigenous to this region.  The conference
consists of two tracks. One is SCIENTIFIC TRACK for the latest results
on Theories, Technologies, Methods, Architectures and Algorithms in
neural information processing.  The other is APPLICATION TRACK for
various neural network applications in any engineering/technical field
and any business/service sector.  There will be a one-day tutorial on
the neural networks for capital markets which reflects Hong Kong's
local interests on financial services.  In addition, there will be
several invited lectures in the main conference.

Hong Kong is one of the most dynamic cities in the world with
world-class facilities, easy accessibility, exciting entertainment,
and high levels of service and professionalism.  Come to Hong Kong!
Visit this Eastern Pearl in this historical period before Hong Kong's
return to China in 1997.


                         *********************  
                         CONFERENCE'S SCHEDULE  
                         *********************
                           
        Submission of paper (extended)         March 10, 1996  
        Notification of acceptance             May 1, 1996  
        Tutorial on Financial Engineering      Sept. 24, 1996
        Conference                             Sept. 25-27, 1996

 ***                                                                  ***
 *** The Conference Proceedings will be published by Springer Verlag. *** 
 ***                                                                  ***
 
Registration forms, detailed tutorial information, invited talks
and other related information will be available on the WWW site
in due course.

                 **********************************
                 Tutorials On Financial Engineering
                 **********************************

1. Professor John Moody, Oregon Graduate Institute, USA
     "Time Series Modeling: Classical and Nonlinear Approaches"

2. Professor Halbert White, University California, San Diego, USA
     "Option Pricing In Modern Finance Theory and the Relevance Of 
      Artificial Neural Networks"

3. Professor A-P. N. Refenes, London Business School, UK
      "Neural Networks in Financial Engineering"


                                *************
                                Keynote Talks
                                *************
                                
1. Professor Shun-ichi Amari, Tokyo University.
     "Information Geometry of Neural Networks"

2. Professor Yaser Abu-Mostafa, California Institute of Technology, USA
     "The Bin Model for Learning and Generalization"

3. Professor Leo Breiman, University California, Berkeley, USA
     "Democratizing Predictors"

4. Professor Christoph von der Malsburg, Ruhr-Universitat Bochum, Germany
     "Scene Analysis Based on Dynamic Links" (tentatively)

5. Professor Erkki Oja, Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
     "Blind Signal Separation by Neural Networks "


                               **************
                               Honored  Talks
                               **************
 
 1. Rolf Eckmiller, University of Bonn,  Germany
     "Concerning the Development of Retina Implants with Neural Nets"
 
 2. Mitsuo Kawato, ATR Human Information Processing Research Lab, Japan
     "Generalized Linear Model Analysis of Cerebellar Motor Learning"
 
 3. Kunihiko Fukushima, Osaka University,  Japan
     "To be announced"

*** PLUS AROUND 20 INVITED PAPERS GIVEN BY WELL KNOWN RESEARCHERS IN
     THE FIELD. ***

                       *****************  
                       CONFERENCE TOPICS
                       *****************  

SCIENTIFIC TRACK:                   APPLICATION TRACK:
-----------------                   ------------------
* Theory                            * Foreign Exchange
* Algorithms & Architectures        * Equities & Commodities
* Supervised Learning               * Risk Management
* Unsupervised Learning             * Options & Futures
* Hardware Implementations          * Forecasting & Strategic Planning
* Hybrid Systems                    * Government and Services
* Neurobiological Systems           * Geophysical Sciences
* Associative Memory                * Telecommunications
* Visual & Speech Processing        * Control & Modeling
* Intelligent Control & Robotics    * Manufacturing
* Cognitive Science & AI            * Chemical Engineering
* Recurrent Net & Dynamics          * Transportation
* Image Processing                  * Environmental Engineering
* Pattern Recognition               * Remote Sensing
* Computer Vision                   * Defense
* Time Series Prediction            * Multimedia Systems
* Optimization                      * Document Processing
* Fuzzy Logic                       * Medical Imaging
* Evolutionary Computing            * Biomedical Application
* Other Related Areas               * Other Related Applications


                         **********************
                         SUBMISSION INFORMATION  
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Authors are invited to submit one camera-ready original (do not 
staple) and five copies of the manuscript written in English on 
A4-format (or letter) white paper with 25 mm (1 inch) margins on all 
four sides, in one column format, no more than six pages (four pages 
preferred) including figures and references, single-spaced, in 
Times-Roman or similar font of 10 points or larger, without page 
numbers, and printed on one side of the page only.  Electronic or fax 
submission is not acceptable.  Additional pages will be charged at USD 
$50 per page.

Centered at the top of the first page should be the complete title, 
author(s), affiliation, mailing, and email addresses, followed by an 
abstract (no more than 150 words) and the text.  Each submission 
should be accompanied by a cover letter indicating the contacting 
author, affiliation, mailing and email addresses, telephone and fax 
number, and preference of track, technical session(s), and format of 
presentation, either oral or poster.  All submitted papers will be 
refereed by experts in the field based on quality, clarity, 
originality, and significance.


Authors may also retrieve the ICONIP style, "iconip.tex" and
"iconip.sty" files for the conference by anonymous FTP at
ftp.cs.cuhk.hk in the directory /pub/iconip96.
  
The address for paper submissions, registration and information 
inquiries:
  
          ICONIP'96 Secretariat   
          Department of Computer Science  and Engineering
          The Chinese University of Hong Kong  
          Shatin, N.T., Hong Kong  
          Fax (852) 2603-5024  
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                      *****************************
                      CONFERENCE'S REGISTRATION FEE 
                      *****************************
 
      On & Before July 1, 1996,        Member        HKD $2,800
      On & Before July 1, 1996,        Non-Member    HKD $3,200 
      Late & On-Site,                  Member        HKD $3,200 
      Late & On-Site,                  Non-Member    HKD $3,600 
      Student Registration Fee                       HKD $1,000
 

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General Co-Chairs
=================
Omar Wing, CUHK
Shun-ichi Amari, Tokyo U.

Advisory Committee
==================     
International
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Yaser Abu-Mostafa, Caltech
Michael Arbib, U. Southern Cal.
Leo Breiman, UC Berkeley
Jack Cowan, U. Chicago
Rolf Eckmiller, U. Bonn
Jerome Friedman, Stanford U.
Stephen Grossberg, Boston U.
Robert Hecht-Nielsen, HNC
Geoffrey Hinton, U. Toronto
Anil Jain, Michigan State U.
Teuvo Kohonen, Helsinki U. of Tech.
Sun-Yuan Kung, Princeton U.
Robert Marks, II, U. Washington
Thomas Poggio, MIT
Harold Szu, US Naval SWC
John Taylor, King's College London
David Touretzky, CMU
C. v. d. Malsburg, Ruhr-U. Bochum
David Willshaw, Edinburgh U.
Lofti Zadeh, UC Berkeley
     
Asia-Pacific Region
-------------------
Marcelo H. Ang Jr, NUS, Singapore
Sung-Yang Bang, POSTECH, Pohang
Hsin-Chia Fu, NCTU., Hsinchu
Toshio Fukuda, Nagoya U., Nagoya
Kunihiko Fukushima, Osaka U., Osaka
Zhenya He, Southeastern U., Nanjing
Marwan Jabri, U. Sydney, Sydney
Nikola Kasabov, U. Otago, Dunedin
Yousou Wu, Tsinghua U., Beijing

Organizing Committee
====================           
L.W. Chan (Co-Chair), CUHK
K.S. Leung (Co-Chair), CUHK
D.Y. Yeung (Finance), HKUST
C.K. Ng (Publication), CityUHK
A. Wu (Publication), CityUHK
B.T. Low (Publicity), CUHK
M.W. Mak (Local Arr.), HKPU
C.S. Tong (Local Arr.), HKBU
T. Lee (Registration), CUHK
K.P. Chan (Tutorial), HKU
H.T. Tsui (Industry Liaison), CUHK
I. King (Secretary), CUHK


Program Committee
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Co-Chairs
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Lei Xu, CUHK
Michael Jordan, MIT
Erkki Oja, Helsinki U. of Tech.
Mitsuo Kawato, ATR
          
Members
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Yoshua Bengio, U. Montreal
Jim Bezdek, U. West Florida
Chris Bishop, Aston U.
Leon Bottou, Neuristique
Gail Carpenter, Boston U.
Laiwan Chan, CUHK
Huishen Chi, Peking U.
Peter Dayan, MIT
Kenji Doya, ATR
Scott Fahlman, CMU
Francoise Fogelman, SLIGOS
Lee Giles, NEC Research Inst.
Michael Hasselmo, Harvard U.
Kurt Hornik, Technical U. Wien
Yu Hen Hu, U. Wisconsin - Madison
Jeng-Neng Hwang, U. Washington
Nathan Intrator, Tel-Aviv U.
Larry Jackel, AT&T Bell Lab
Adam Kowalczyk, Telecom Australia
Soo-Young Lee, KAIST
Todd Leen, Oregon Grad. Inst.
Cheng-Yuan Liou, National Taiwan U.
David MacKay, Cavendish Lab
Eric Mjolsness, UC San Diego
John Moody, Oregon Grad. Inst.
Nelson Morgan, ICSI
Steven Nowlan, Synaptics
Michael Perrone, IBM Watson Lab
Ting-Chuen Pong, HKUST
Paul Refenes, London Business School
David Sanchez, U. Miami
Hava Siegelmann, Technion
Ah Chung Tsoi, U. Queensland
Benjamin Wah, U. Illinois
Andreas Weigend, Colorado U.
Ronald Williams, Northeastern U.
John Wyatt, MIT
Alan Yuille, Harvard U.
Richard Zemel, CMU
Jacek Zurada, U. Louisville






From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 20 22:00:00 1996
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From: gellerj@UNCWIL.EDU (Jonathan B. Geller)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Molecular ecology postdoc position
Date: 21 Feb 1996 10:51:03 -0800
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JOB ANNOUNCEMENT

Postdoctoral Position in Molecular Ecology

Microsatellite Variation in Vermillion Snapper in the South Atlantic Bight

A two year postdoctoral position is available at the University of North
Carolina at Wilmington, beginning immediately. The successful candidate
will isolate microsatellite loci from the Vermillion snapper (Rhomboplites
aurorubens), a commercially important fish on the southeastern coast of the
U.S., and quantify allelic variation in these loci in populations from the
Gulf of Mexico to North Carolina. The successful candidate will also have
the opportunity to develop an independent project according to his/her
individual interests and abilities.

Requirements:  Ph.D. or equivalent in population genetics, fisheries
ecology, molecular systematics, or related disciplines. Proficiency with
population genetic theory and/or with molecular biological techniques,
including cloning, library screening, PCR, and DNA sequencing is desired.

Salary: $24,000/year, with fringe benefits.

Application deadline: open until filled.

To initiate application, send CV, related reprints, and names and addresses
of 3 references to:

Dr. Jonathan B. Geller
Department of Biological Sciences
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
Wilmington, NC 28403.

Initial contact by e-mail (GELLERJ@UNCWIL.EDU) or phone (910 395-3357) is
encouraged.

UNCW is an equal opportunity employer.

Jonathan Geller
Department of Biological Sciences
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
601 S. College Rd.
Wilmington, NC 28403

(910) 395-3357 Office/Lab
(910) 350- 4066 Fax



From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 22 22:00:00 1996
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From: Dr Kingsley Dixon <kdixon@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: PhD Scolarship (Fauna Restoration)
Date: 23 Feb 1996 14:03:06 GMT
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PhD Scolarship in Urban Bushland Management (Fauna Restoration).  Stipend $20 000 per annum.

Kings Park and Botanic Garden, located in Perth, Western Australia, proposes to offer through industry support, 
an ad hoc PhD scholarship to undertake research into biology and restoration of fauna on the Mt Eliza 
escarpment.  The project will focus on the endemic land snail and two spider species but will also consider the full 
spectrum of fauna impacted by the restoration programme.

The studentship offers the opportunity to work in a multi-disciplinary research team focused on urban bushland 
management.

The student would be positioned in the research laboratory in Kings Park with supervision by senior research staff 
from Kings Park and the Zoology Department, University of Western Australia.

Application stating qualifications (at least Honours level degree or equivalent in a relevant scientific discipline) 
should be made to Kings Park and Botanic Garden, West Perth 6005.  Enquiries can be directed to Dr Stephen 
Hopper, Tel. 61-9-480 3605 or Dr Kingsley Dixon, Tel 61-9-480 3637, (or email as above).



From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Feb 25 22:00:00 1996
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From: OOKOMAR@CC.OWU.EDU (OLIVER KOMAR)
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Subject: Announcing a new society for Mesoamerican biology
Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:04:07 -0800
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ANNOUNCING A NEW SOCIETY...
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       SOCIEDAD MESOAMERICANA PARA LA BIOLOGIA Y LA CONSERVACION


				U.S. Contact:  	Oliver Komar
						Department of Zoology
						Ohio Wesleyan University
						Delaware OH 43015
						Telephone: 614-369-0175
						email: ookomar@cc.owu.edu


21 February 1996
For immediate release
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				PLEASE POST


ANNOUNCING....

	The Mesoamerican Society for Biology and Conservation was formed on
14 January 1996, at Lake Yojoa, Honduras, by a group of biologists from five
countries and numerous branches of the biological sciences.  The new society
will serve biologists and conservationists throughout Central America and 
southern Mexico, by publishing a news bulletin MESOAMERICANA, and by 
sponsoring annual congresses in Mesoamerica.  The official name is "Sociedad
Mesoamericana para la Biologi'a y la Conservacio'n.  Persons interested in
the society, as members or potential officers, are invited to become 
founding members, subscribe to the bulletin, and attend the first general
meeting of the membership in Tegucigalpa in June 1996.  Institutions are 
also invited to help found the society, the first ever of its kind in
Mesoamerica.

A QUARTERLY BULLETIN...

	Members will receive the quarterly "Mesoamericana," which will 
include news in Spanish and English of current projects, meetings, and
literature, as well as biographical sketches on founding members, and 
short, non-technical articles of general use to biologists working in 
Mesoamerica.  The Society initially intends to publish technical articles
in proceedings of annual symposia or congresses.  The first issue of 
Mesoamericana will be published in June 1996.  For more information about
the bulletin, contact its editor, Carlos Rene' Rami'rez Sosa, 4a. Avenida
Sur #1, Apopa, San Salvador, El Salvador (Tel: (503) 336-0152; email:
crrlc@cunyvm.cuny.edu).

HOW TO JOIN...

	The cost of basic membership is $20 for 1996 (includes 3 issues
of Mesoamericana).  One can become a founding member for $50.  Institutions
can become founders for $200, which includes a subscription to the bulletin.
Founding members and founding institutions will be acknowledged in the
bulletin.  Founding memberships will be available only through the end of
1996.  Donations larger than $200 are welcome, and donors will be recognized
in print as benefactors.  Membership fees or other donations may be sent to 
Oliver Komar, Department of Zoology, Ohio Wesleyan University, Delaware OH 
43015 (Telephone (614) 369-0175; email ookomar@cc.owu.edu).  Checks should be
made out to "Mesoamerican Society for Biology and Conservation" or "Sociedad 
Mesoamericana para la Biologia y la Conservacion."

	Mesoamerican residents have lower membership costs, and can contact
directly one of the acting secretaries, Silvia C. Chalukia'n, at 
Departmento de Recursos Naturales y Conservacio'n Biolo'gica, Escuela
Agri'cola Panamericana, Apartado 93, Tegucigalpa, Honduras
(Telephone (504) 76-6140; fax (504) 76-6234; email eapdrn@ns.hondunet.net or
eaphpcs@ns.hondunet.net).

NEXT MEETING IN TEGUCIGALPA...

	All members are encouraged to attend the first meeting at the 
Universidad Nacional Auto'noma de Honduras, Tegucigalpa, tentatively 
planned for 21-22 June 1996, at which the Society's membership will
approve its statutes and elect a board of officers and trustees.  The 
meeting includes a one-day symposium on Mesoamerican biology, with
invited papers and an open poster session.  Anyone interested in attending
the meeting and symposium may contact the society's acting president
Gerardo Borjas.  Licenciado Borjas is the local organizing committee chair
and scientific program chair for the June meeting.  He may be reached at
Apartado 30-357, Tonconti'n, Tegucigalpa M.D.C., Honduras (telephone/fax
(504) 33-9576).  Information on local lodging arrangements and registration
also will be available from Oliver Komar at the address given below.


FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT

Oliver Komar
Department of Zoology
Ohio Wesleyan University
Delaware OH 43015
Telephone (614) 369-0175
Email ookomar@cc.owu.edu

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From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Feb 26 22:00:00 1996
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From: resteele@uci.edu (Rob Steele)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: koala population size
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:11:24 -0800
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My girlfriend's daughter is doing a report for school on the koala as an
endangered species. She is having trouble tracking down information on the
current number of koala's remaining in the wild. Does anyone have this
number handy? Replies to my e-mail address would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

-- 
Rob Steele
Department of Biological Chemistry
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717-1700
Office Phone: 714-824-7341
Lab Phone: 714-824-4343
Fax: 714-824-2688
E-mail: resteele@uci.edu

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 27 22:00:00 1996
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From: megill@zoology.ubc.ca (William Megill)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Course in grey whale research techniques
Date: 28 Feb 1996 05:20:40 GMT
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The Coastal Ecosystems Research Foundation is a registered Canadian
charitable organisation, offering seven-day courses in marine mammal
research techniques. Courses are open to the general public - no 
previous experience necessary. Research is focused this year on the feeding
behaviour, movements, and abundance of grey whales, Pacific white-sided 
dolphins, killer whales and humpback whales, off Cape Caution, BC, Canada.
Courses are taught from a 40' sailboat, sea-kayaks, and from shore. 
Participants are incorporated directly into the research team for the 
duration of the course, and have the opportunity to learn techniques first-
hand from working biologists. In addition to the field research techniques, 
the course also includes instruction and hands-on experience in sailing or
sea-kayaking. Course cost includes tuition, all meals, return transportation
from Port Hardy to the base camp, and tent accomodation.

Cost: $1400 (CAD) $1075 (USD)
       (Student prices available some dates)
       (call/email for information about kayaking)

Dates:
	Sailing: June 30 - July 6, 6-12, 14-20, 20-26, 28-August 3
       		 August 3-9, 11-17, 17-23, 25-31, 31 - September 6.
	Kayaking: June 30 - July 7, 7-14, 14-21, 21-28, 28-August 4
		  August 4-11, 11-18, 18-25, 25-September 1, 1-7.

For more information, contact:

Coastal Ecosystems Research Foundation
c/o Adventure Spirit Travel Company
1843 W 12th Ave, Vancouver, BC, Canada, V6J 2E7
1-800-667-7799 (N America)
(604) 736-5188 (elsewhere)
email:  rdavis@direct.ca
world-wide web:  http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~megill/cerf


From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 27 22:00:00 1996
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From: megill@zoology.ubc.ca (William Megill)
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Funding for pop genetics & ecotoxicology
Date: 28 Feb 1996 05:46:18 GMT
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Hi !

Anybody got any ideas on where to find funding for either genetics
or ecotoxicology studies ? We're a small non-profit research group
working on grey whales off the coast of BC. We're looking to get
a genetics and ecotoxicology project off the ground this year. The
idea is to analyse biopsy samples from the whales for mt-DNA et al,
sex, lipid content, and toxins, as parts of a more general pop-
ulation study of this species recently removed from the endangered
species list. Any ideas/pointers gladly appreciated !

Cheers !
William

PS. Answers directly to me please - my newsreader and I don't get along
very well. :-)

_____________________________________________________________________________
William Megill                                            tel: (604) 730 0579
Coastal Ecosystems Research Foundation           email: megill@zoology.ubc.ca
207-2173 W 6th Ave, Vancouver, BC, Canada V6K 1V5
world-wide web: http://www.bcu.ubc.ca/~megill/cerf

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Feb 28 22:00:00 1996
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From: drubin@cln.etc.bc.ca (Dan Rubin)
Subject: populATION
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DOESN'T IT SEEM AT LEAST A LITTLE STRANGE THAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT 
ASPECT OF BIOLOGY FOR OUR EXISTENCE ON THIS PLANET AT THIS TIME (the 
explosion of the human population and the resulting destruction of living 
systems in all parts of the world) DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE POST!?

From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 29 22:00:00 1996
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From: Sean Clancy <sclancy@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio
Subject: Re: populATION
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 16:07:54 -0330
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On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Dan Rubin wrote:

> 
> 
> DOESN'T IT SEEM AT LEAST A LITTLE STRANGE THAT THE MOST SIGNIFICANT 
> ASPECT OF BIOLOGY FOR OUR EXISTENCE ON THIS PLANET AT THIS TIME (the 
> explosion of the human population and the resulting destruction of living 
> systems in all parts of the world) DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE POST!?
> >

	As a practising ecologist it is not the most important biological 
issue,  therefore desires no seperate post!  A little interesting peice 
of information for all you tree huggers out there who feel the loss of 
life on earth is wrong;  In order to have life and adaptation,  there 
must be death!!!!!!  We all forget that death is how we came into being! 
 
						  

     


