From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sun Feb 02 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!SPRINTMAIL.COM!jkershner From: jkershner@SPRINTMAIL.COM (Janet Kershner) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: (no subject) Date: 2 Feb 1997 17:51:50 -0800 Organization: Walking Soft Enterprises Lines: 1 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <32F55395.3124@sprintmail.com> Reply-To: jkershner@sprintmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net I am interested in subscribing to this newsgroup. How do I go about it? From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Feb 03 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!sn.no!Oslo2.Norway.EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp.uio.no!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!199.170.121.3!peach!news From: Carole Lyle DeMort Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: On Darwinian Evolution Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 01:19:11 -0500 Organization: University of North Florida Lines: 11 Message-ID: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-18.fair.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) I have always had a big problem with those who condemn Darwin's "Theory of Evolution", without ever having read "On the Origin of Species." This is ignorance in the first degree. NO where in his book, does Darwin even use the word, evolution; instead he refers to descent with modification; with the mechanism that explains how populations are able to change through geological time being natural selection. Much of what we associate with our modern day Theory of Evolution comes from post-Darwin concepts, including all of our current appreciation for and understanding of Mendelian and molecular genetics. The rich fossil record only serves to reiinforce Darwin's views of "descent with modification." From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 04 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!medtronic.com!usenet From: Rebecca Steele Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 16:39:24 -0600 Organization: Medtronic Lines: 71 Message-ID: <32F90C1C.253E@medtronic.com> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: rebecca.steele@medtronic.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.15.29.196 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Gary S. Turk wrote: > > In <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> Carole Lyle DeMort > writes: > > > >I have always had a big problem with those who condemn Darwin's > "Theory > >of Evolution", without ever having read "On the Origin of Species." > >This is ignorance in the first degree. NO where in his book, does > >Darwin even use the word, evolution; instead he refers to descent with > > >modification; with the mechanism that explains how populations are > able > >to change through geological time being natural selection. Much of > what > >we associate with our modern day Theory of Evolution comes from > >post-Darwin concepts, including all of our current appreciation for > and > >understanding of Mendelian and molecular genetics. The rich fossil > >record only serves to reiinforce Darwin's views of "descent with > >modification." > > Much like in the Bible, the word homsexual is never used, yet it is > referred to. We have a new term every day in this world. Politically > Correct never existed a couple of years ago, but now that phrase is all > the rage. The terms we use in this day and age may not match the terms > Darwin used, but you can't deny the theory is still the same. You > speak of ignorance in the first degree. Ignorance is not a negative > thing, it simply means you don't know about something. Try to not > attack a person if you are only concerned with disagreement with the > person's position or postulation, that way you can have a conversation > without hurting each other as an exclamation point. > Check out this quote! " To suppose that the eye could have been > formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the > highest degree." This is considering that the human eye has 40,000,000 > nerve endings, the focusing muscles move over 100,000 times per day, > and a single retina contains 137,000,000 light sensitive cells. You > must agree that the possibility of this just happening by chance, as > evolution would suggest, is ridiculous. Oh, the quotation is from > Charles Darwin. > I am a believer in creation. To look at a building and say that > nobody created it is nonsense. To look at a mountain, or a sunset, or > a whole planet and say that it is just here by chance is beyond > nonsense. > Now, come on back and discuss that without attacking me as a > person. You may take any shot you want at my belief, or my > postulation, but try to leave me out of it personally. That is the > essence of a scientific argument. To attack me personally would not > serve to convince me that you have a believable argument to support > your theory. > See you later. Gary Gary, I have thought alot about your reply. I just can't agree with the concept of creationism. I am firm believer in people having their own beliefs, that is why I will not attack you as a person, but attack the idea of creation. Prove to me that a "supreme being" created that mountain. I can prove to you that dinosaurs were here, I can also prove to you that by simple erosion that mountains can be made. The thought of these new terms just makes me furious. I have a big problem with lack of education. Do you really think that humans should be living in the past, refusing to educate themselves? I can't imagine not knowing about breast cancer, coronary artery disease, or the problems that arise from smoking. We are essentially killing ourselves if we do not continue to learn. I hope that you will address my questions. Rebecca Rebecca From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 04 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: daddio-1@ix.netcom.com(Gary S. Turk) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: 5 Feb 1997 02:33:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 49 Message-ID: <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: csp-co4-43.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 04 6:33:35 PM PST 1997 In <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> Carole Lyle DeMort writes: > >I have always had a big problem with those who condemn Darwin's "Theory >of Evolution", without ever having read "On the Origin of Species." >This is ignorance in the first degree. NO where in his book, does >Darwin even use the word, evolution; instead he refers to descent with >modification; with the mechanism that explains how populations are able >to change through geological time being natural selection. Much of what >we associate with our modern day Theory of Evolution comes from >post-Darwin concepts, including all of our current appreciation for and >understanding of Mendelian and molecular genetics. The rich fossil >record only serves to reiinforce Darwin's views of "descent with >modification." Much like in the Bible, the word homsexual is never used, yet it is referred to. We have a new term every day in this world. Politically Correct never existed a couple of years ago, but now that phrase is all the rage. The terms we use in this day and age may not match the terms Darwin used, but you can't deny the theory is still the same. You speak of ignorance in the first degree. Ignorance is not a negative thing, it simply means you don't know about something. Try to not attack a person if you are only concerned with disagreement with the person's position or postulation, that way you can have a conversation without hurting each other as an exclamation point. Check out this quote! " To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree." This is considering that the human eye has 40,000,000 nerve endings, the focusing muscles move over 100,000 times per day, and a single retina contains 137,000,000 light sensitive cells. You must agree that the possibility of this just happening by chance, as evolution would suggest, is ridiculous. Oh, the quotation is from Charles Darwin. I am a believer in creation. To look at a building and say that nobody created it is nonsense. To look at a mountain, or a sunset, or a whole planet and say that it is just here by chance is beyond nonsense. Now, come on back and discuss that without attacking me as a person. You may take any shot you want at my belief, or my postulation, but try to leave me out of it personally. That is the essence of a scientific argument. To attack me personally would not serve to convince me that you have a believable argument to support your theory. See you later. Gary From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Feb 05 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!nntp.uio.no!newsfeeds.sol.net!feed1.news.erols.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!unixs4.cis.pitt.edu!mattf+ From: Matt Fraser Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: The Paleo Ring Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:45:03 -0500 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 38 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: unixs4.cis.pitt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mattf@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu Hey All, Those of you that have websites that promote paleontology, paleoanthropology, paleoarcheology, the evolution of behavior, and evolutionary biology in general may be interested in joining a Webring that I just started yesterday. The concept is that a community of similar interest web sites are linked in a circle, and once a "surfer" enters, they can complete the circuit and sample everyone's sites (note that the surfer is not trapped in any way, its just another way to get linked). You can check it out through my Paleo Page Or more directly at Join! What do you have to lose? Thanks, Matt ________________________________________________________________ Matt Fraser "The Real World is very complex and chaotic, mattf+@pitt.edu so that, in order to survive, humans find it necessary to construct an illusion of reality." Author Unknown ________________________________________________________________ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Feb 05 22:00:00 1997 Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!uknet!newsfeed.ed.ac.uk!leeds.ac.uk!news From: jj@scs.leeds.ac.uk (J Jackson) Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Message-ID: <1997Feb6.122844.29905@leeds.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: csparc23.leeds.ac.uk Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:28:44 +0000 (GMT) References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 BETA-950824-color PL0] Lines: 30 Gary S. Turk (daddio-1@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : Check out this quote! " To suppose that the eye could have been : formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the : highest degree." This is considering that the human eye has 40,000,000 : nerve endings, the focusing muscles move over 100,000 times per day, : and a single retina contains 137,000,000 light sensitive cells. You : must agree that the possibility of this just happening by chance, as : evolution would suggest, is ridiculous. Oh, the quotation is from : Charles Darwin. check this out then. What's the chances of throwing 12 die (dice) and getting all sixes? How many times on average would you have to throw those die (dice) to get all sixes? A very great deal - you wouldn't live long enough. This is analogous to getting a human eye by chance. How throw the 12 die (dice) - leave those that are 6 and simply throw the ones that aren't as six. Repeat. How long before you have all sixes? A DARN SIGHT quicker, you might be able to do it in several minutes as opposed to several life times. This is analogous to getting a human eye by natural selection. The former is pretty near impossible - the latter is possible. I hope you now understand a little more. Jim From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Feb 05 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: daddio-1@ix.netcom.com(Gary S. Turk) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:47:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 18 Message-ID: <5dbnpm$qhr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32F94D30.7361@gcg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: csp-co4-42.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 05 10:47:50 PM CST 1997 In <32F94D30.7361@gcg.com> Eric Cabot writes: > >Oh [insert mythical deity of choice here]! > > Now they've discovered *this* newsgroup! Well at least they seem >to have abandoned b.molbio.evol for the time being. Who are they? What is the purpose of a newsgroup if not to argue about views and theories? Do you really think that in this world you will ever say anything and everyone around you will just say' "Oh yeah!". You are as much of a they as anyone else. By the way, don't you ever go to other newsgroups with an opposing view just to see what they are saying? When you get there and see something that you don't believe in or agree with, do you just say, "Oh yeah"? If so, why bother getting into a newsgroup at all? This is my opinion, if you agree with it, just say, "Oh yeah", and have a good day. If not, then your view is welcome. Just try not to attack a person, but the position. From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 06 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!usenet From: nelson guda Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Volunteer Field Assistants Needed in Costa Rica, Summer 97 Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:38:00 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 160 Message-ID: <32FB6877.495E@mail.utexas.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ryan112.zo.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) CC: bionet.biology.tropical Volunteer Field Assistants Needed to Work in Costa Rica, Summer 97 This information and more is available at: http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~ning/assistants *Intro: I am a graduate student at The University of Texas, Austin, and I do research on the communication behavior of the treefrog, Smilisca phaeota. For the past two field seasons I have taken assistants with me to help in gathering data for my project. Unfortunately, these are not paid positions, and all expenses must be covered by the assistants. In return, I can offer the chance to get experience doing field work in a remote station in the tropics with the possibility of conducting an independent project. *Qualifications: Enthusiasm. I like to give this opportunity to people who have not yet had the chance to experience field work in the tropics. I prefer that my assistants have some background in biology, although it is not necessary. The main criteria is that you are interested and excited about biology in the tropics. A sense of humor is also a very good quality for doing field work. I'll be looking for people who I feel I can live with easily. Independence and Responsibility. I will be gone for 5-6 weeks in the middle of the summer and will leave my assistants in charge of the data collection. It is important that everyone is capable of working without supervision. Due to the somewhat primitive living conditions and remote location, you must be at least moderately fit, and I prefer people that have some outdoor experience (i.e.: backpacking, hiking etc..). *Costs: In the past two years costs have been very cheap for assistants, averaging under $10/day for three meals and park fees. However, there is a rumor that food costs may rise significantly. I have no idea if this will happen before this summer if at all. Travel within Costa Rica should run about $10-15 per day for hotel and food. Transportation to the park from San Jose should be about $30 each way. Therefore, if park fees do not change much you could expect to pay somewhere around $700 for a two month stay, or $1000 for a three month stay. Travel to Costa Rica will obviously vary depending on where you are coming from. Student tickets are by far the best deal - usually you can get a ticket from the USA for under $500. Tickets from consolidators can also be cheap, but they usually limit your stay to one month. You will also need a backpack and a tent. In the past I have been able to have tents available for use, however because of possible changes in the field station this year I cannot guarantee their use. *Time Period: My schedule for this summer is still very uncertain. At the moment it looks as though I will be in Costa Rica from about the middle of May until late August. This does not necessarily mean that you have to be there for that entire time. However because I will most likely be gone for the month of July, I can't have anyone come down during that time. I may also be looking for people who could be there in September. *Living Conditions: The main field site is at the Sirena Biological Station, Costa Rica. Sirena is in the middle of the very large Corcovado National Park, and the only way to get to there is by plane, boat or foot. Plane and boat are both expensive and not always reliable so you must be prepared to hike in or out of the park. The hike is about eleven miles on the beach, which is strenuous with a backpack. We sleep in tents usually under a roof with no walls. There is a kitchen with a cook and you pay for your meals. Food is generally very good, but often variable depending on when the last supply flight was. Other facilities include flush toilets, cold water showers, and 3-5 hours of electricity every day in the evening. There is no access to a telephone except by walking out of the park, but the park guards do have a radio for emergencies. You must live in close quarters with a small number of people for an extended period of time. It is possible that I will be also be putting a second team of two people in a small reserve on the other side of the peninsula. This location is not in the park, and is not isolated as is Sirena. It also has much more luxurious living conditions and access to a town. *What you will be doing: Because I work with frogs, all of the work is at night. However, since these frogs don't breed every night, your sleep schedule can get very erratic. There can also be long stretches of time with no work and short periods of time with very intense work. You must be able to go out on a trail alone at night. A typical night's work can involve hours of walking the trails looking for frogs. The insects can be very annoying and often the work is in the rain. If you are not out looking for frogs you will be under a roof running behavioral experiments that involve playing calls to female frogs and observing their response. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's what I need from you: 1. Cover letter - Why do you want to go? 2. Curriculum Vitae - Similar to a resume, should include: o Field work experience o Biology related coursework (with grades) o Any jobs relating to biology or outdoors 3. Letter of Recommendation. Send the above info to me at this address: Nelson Guda Department of Zoology University of Texas Austin, TX 78712 You can also e-mail the information to me at nels@mail.utexas.edu Expensive resume paper doesn't mean anything to me. I prefer plain white paper. Volunteer Field Assistants Needed in Costa Rica, Summer 97 From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 06 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!vms.cis.pitt.edu!kilpatri From: kilpatri@vms.cis.pitt.edu Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.evolution,bionet.population-bio Subject: Pigeon fingerprinting Date: 7 Feb 97 11:29:48 EDT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 7 Message-ID: <5dflaj$jrb@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: axpvm2.cis.pitt.edu Xref: biosci bionet.molbio.evolution:5636 bionet.population-bio:2191 I'm in the process of developing a project involving individual identification and assessment of genetic variation in captive (and inbred) pigeon populations. fingerprinting and/or analysis using RAPDs. Any help would be appreciated. Steve Kilpatrick kilpatri@vms.cis.pitt.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 06 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!uknet!usenet1.news.uk.psi.net!uknet!EU.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!news.igc.apc.org!mlynes From: mlynes@prbo.org (Mike Lynes) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: PRBO's Online Journal, Observer now out. Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 15:11:04 -0800 Organization: Point Reyes Bird Observatory Lines: 25 Sender: prbo@igc.apc.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp4-3.igc.org X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b6 The Point Reyes Bird Observatory, a non-profit research and conservation organization, has just released the first eletronic version of its quarterly journal, Observer, to be found at our website: http://www.prbo.org/prbo/ Features of this issue are: -A review of songbird data collected on the Point Reyes National Seashore following the huge Mount Vision fire. -Northern Fur Seals breed again on the Farallon Islands, west of San Francisco, for the first time in over a centuary. -Rich Stallcup's Focus column takes up the problems exotic Eucalyptus trees create for birds wintering in California. -Project updates: including the monitoring and protection of Snowy Plovers, censusing threatened songbirds, and study the effects of oil spills and other contaminants on seabirds and marine mammals in the Gulf of the Farallones. -Includes much more. Please visit our website (http://www.prbo.org/prbo/)and check out this latest addition. Don't forget to send us your comments and suggestions. From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 06 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!utk.edu!usenet From: Massimo Pigliucci Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 17:34:17 -0500 Organization: University of Tennessee Lines: 41 Message-ID: <32FBADE9.39EE@utk.edu> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32F94D30.7361@gcg.com> <5dbnpm$qhr@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: pigliucci@utk.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: tchm08a10.rmt.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: "Gary S. Turk" OK, first of all Gary's idea of the evolution of the human eye is simply wrong. Darwinian Evolution _is not_ a random process. It is made of two parts: the creation of variability by mutation and recombination (this _is_ random), and the selection of the most fit variants by natural selection (this _is by no means_ random). Please, I don't want to bring personal attacks, but at least try to understand what a theory actually says before criticizing it. The burden of educating themselves is on whomever challenges an accepted view... > > Now they've discovered *this* newsgroup! Well at least they seem > >to have abandoned b.molbio.evol for the time being. > > Who are they? What is the purpose of a newsgroup if not to argue > about views and theories? The purpose of a newsgroup is to discuss. BUT, to discuss the topic that that newsgroup has set as its realm of interest. In this case, population biology, NOT creation vs. evolution. There are plenty of other newgroups devoted to this topic, starting with talk.origins and sci.evolution. Thanks, Massimo Pigliucci (Assistant Professor) -- ************************************* Massimo Pigliucci Dept. of Botany, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN 37996-1100 phone 423-974-6221 fax 0978 LAB PAGE http://www.bio.utk.edu/botany/pgl/mphome.html SCIENCE & SOCIETY http://www.bio.utk.edu/botany/pgl/s&s/s&s.html 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' Woody Allen, from "Stardust memories" From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 06 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!news.artemis.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!vms.cis.pitt.edu!kilpatri From: kilpatri@vms.cis.pitt.edu Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.evolution,bionet.population-bio Subject: Pigeon fingerprinting (repost) Date: 7 Feb 97 13:14:50 EDT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 8 Message-ID: <5dfrfh$l1g@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: axpvm1.cis.pitt.edu Xref: biosci bionet.molbio.evolution:5637 bionet.population-bio:2193 Sorry, the last post was garbled. I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has information or experience in applying DNA fingerprinting and/or RAPD analysis techniques to avian populations. I'm planning a project with captive inbred pigeon (Columba livia) populations. Thanks - Steve Kilpatrick kilpatri@vms.cis.pitt.edu From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 07 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!uwm.edu!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.bc.net!info.ucla.edu!nnrp.info.ucla.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!chip.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: ez041475@chip.ucdavis.edu (Eric Dobratz) Newsgroups: bionet.plants,bionet.population-bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.bio.entomology.misc Subject: Re: anthills and profuse growth of shrub Spirea media (Rosaceae) Followup-To: bionet.plants,bionet.population-bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.bio.entomology.misc Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:27:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 10 Message-ID: <5dinir$j8a$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5dh3i6$ss0@onlink3.onlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chip.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: biosci bionet.plants:14389 bionet.population-bio:2202 sci.bio.ecology:23827 sci.bio.entomology.misc:4261 I also wouldn't discount the possibility that these ants may be protecting the shrubs that grow immediately over their colonies. @>------<@ @>------<@ @>------<@ @>------<@ Eric A. Dobratz U.C. Davis Veterinary School Class of '99 Reptile and insect enthusiast at large. @>------<@ @>------<@ @>------<@ @>------<@ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 07 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ELLENSBURG.COM!digress From: digress@ELLENSBURG.COM (Mike Pearson) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: On _Our_ Evolution Date: 8 Feb 1997 09:30:21 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 45 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9702081731.AA18478@ellensburg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net At 12:28 PM 2/6/97 +0000, JJackson wrote: >Gary S. Turk (daddio-1@ix.netcom.com) wrote: >: Check out this quote! (Charles Darwin wrote) " To suppose that the eye could have been >: formed by natural selection, seems I freely confess, absurd in the >: highest degree." . > >What's the chances of throwing 12 die (dice) and getting all sixes? >How many times on average would you have to throw those die (dice) >to get all sixes? A very great deal - you wouldn't live long enough. > >This is analogous to getting a human eye by chance. > >Now throw the 12 die (dice) - leave those that are 6 and simply throw the >ones that aren't as six. Repeat. How long before you have all sixes? >A DARN SIGHT quicker... >This is analogous to getting a human eye by natural selection. >Jim I like that description. Many who oppose evolution have seen it misapplied to human affairs, where people were tossed out like dice. In Humanist magazine, around January 1996, a writer made the point that the process looks intelligent only because we don't see the waste and the tedious prolonged cruelty. A team of today's genetic engineers wouldn't waste *120 million years* on big, lumbering saw-toothed lizards chowing down on walnut-brained herbivores. etc. etc. etc. etc.(examples abound) However, are? human beings are knowledgeable enough to make wholesale judgements which traits humanity should have in future, except by choosing our own mates? Yet humans _are_ choosing and will in a few generations have completed the fastest, most complete job of re-landscaping (and repopulation) the planet has ever experienced as far as we know...with planning taking second priority. Does anyone here deny this future is likely? Any suggestions what to do, from a biological standpoint? What part does the loyal, ignorant opposition play in that? What are some better questions? Mike http://www.ellensburg.com/~digress/ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 07 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!sn.no!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!news.uni-hamburg.de!news.uni-mainz.de!NewsWatcher!user From: KMEYER@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de (Karsten Meyer) Newsgroups: bionet.plants,bionet.population-bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.bio.entomology.misc Subject: Re: anthills and profuse growth of shrub Spirea media (Rosaceae) Date: 8 Feb 1997 15:32:24 GMT Organization: Institute of Systematic Botany, Uni Mainz Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <5dh3i6$ss0@onlink3.onlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: affine.biologie.uni-mainz.de Xref: biosci bionet.plants:14382 bionet.population-bio:2198 sci.bio.ecology:23823 sci.bio.entomology.misc:4260 Hello, I guess it¹s the soil fertilization by the ants. If the soil is a podzol, it shall nutrient-poor, so some extra nutrients may have a big effect. As for the Spiraea, the seeds are collected by the ants for the nutrient-rich elaiosome that is attached to the seeds. Hope that helps, Karsten robert.liebermann@wmich.edu (robert liebermann) wrote: > [snip] > I frequently found that growth of vegetation was quite lush > near the anthills, especially of the shrub Spirea media (Rosceae). > [snip] -- Karsten Meyer Institute of Systematic Botany, University of Mainz 55099 Mainz - Germany Tel: +49 6131-39 25 91, Fax: +49 6131- 39 35 24 From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 07 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!onlink3.onlink.net!usenet From: robert.liebermann@wmich.edu (robert liebermann) Newsgroups: bionet.plants,bionet.population-bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.bio.entomology.misc Subject: anthills and profuse growth of shrub Spirea media (Rosaceae) Date: 8 Feb 1997 05:39:18 GMT Organization: Lake Baikal-Lake Superior Institute Lines: 29 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3708] Message-ID: <5dh3i6$ss0@onlink3.onlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: wawa1_onlink3.onlink.net X-Newsreader: InterNews 2.0.2@wawa1_onlink3.onlink.net[R] XDisclaimer: User not authenticated Xref: biosci bionet.plants:14379 bionet.population-bio:2197 sci.bio.ecology:23808 sci.bio.entomology.misc:4255 Can someone give me some advice on this- I'm working on my thesis-comparative phytogeography of islands in Lake Baikal and Lake Superior. On one of the islands in Lake Baikal [Bolshoi Ushkanii] there is a very dense population of ants/anthills [the medium sized black BITING ones, sorry I can't be more precise]. The Island is forested with a boreal predominately Larix czekanowskii-Pinus sylvestris forest, on mesic carbonate-derived podzols. I frequently found that growth of vegetation was quite lush near the anthills, especially of the shrub Spirea media (Rosceae). After some time I could expect to find [or avoid] ants from a distance in the field by looking at the S. media shrubs. My question: why are the plants so lush? Is it the increased aeration to the roots? Some sort of chemistry of the ants? Soil fertilization by the wastes of the ants? Where can I learn more [literature]? I know more about plants than ants! Thanks, Robert J. Liebermann Lake Baikal-Lake Superior Institute RR#1, Site 6, Box 5, Lake Superior Wawa, Ontario, P0S 1K0, Canada Department of Geography Western Michigan University Kalamazoo, Michigan, 49008 5056 USA From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 08 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!151.99.250.2!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!shark From: shark@mail.tau.it (Alessio Eduardo Pusateri) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Advertisement Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 01:28:25 +0200 Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.99.169.179 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.2 There is a new site on the Net. You can find here some interesting advice books about Natural Sciences: Malacology, Botany, Biology, Marine biology etc. Then, you can put your request in our personal notice board and exchange specimen from your collection and ideas with many people with your own interest. You are welcome to visit this site at: http://www.dada.net/naturama -- shark From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 08 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newsfeeds.sol.net!hunter.premier.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!204.191.213.61!ott.istar!istar.net!news.synapse.net!n4ott.istar!gollum.kingston.net!not-for-mail From: "Oliver K. Reichl" Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Bullfrog ecology Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 18:08:23 -0500 Organization: InterNet Kingston, Kingston Ont. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <32FE58E7.3A55@mulberry.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp21.mulberry.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I am doing research on bullfrogs (specifically developing monitoring protocols at the population level within the 1000 Islands area). I would appreciate any input on reliable and statistically sound sampling techniques, what constitutes a viable population (how few can there be before there is danger of extirpation), limiting factors and stressors, and rehab efforts. The monitor will use bullfrogs as an ecological indicator of human disturbance. From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 08 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ELLENSBURG.COM!digress From: digress@ELLENSBURG.COM (Mike Pearson) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:16:21 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 33 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9702090417.AA21785@ellensburg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net At 12:28 PM 2/6/97 +0000, JJackson wrote: >Now throw the 12 die (dice) - leave those that are 6 and simply throw the >ones that aren't as six. Repeat. How long before you have all sixes? >A DARN SIGHT quicker... >This is analogous to getting a human eye by natural selection. >Jim I like that description...very good start. Many who oppose evolution have seen it misapplied to human affairs, where people were tossed out like dice. In Humanist magazine, around January 1996, a writer made the point that the process looks intelligent only because we don't see the waste and the tedious prolonged cruelty. A team of today's genetic engineers wouldn't waste *120 million years* on big, lumbering saw-toothed lizards chowing down on walnut-brained herbivores. etc. etc. etc. etc.(examples abound) However, are? human beings are knowledgeable enough to make wholesale judgements which traits humanity should have in future, except by choosing our own mates? Yet humans _are_ choosing and will in a few generations have completed the fastest, most complete job of re-landscaping (and repopulation) the planet has ever experienced as far as we know...with planning taking second priority. Does anyone here deny this future is likely? Any suggestions what to do, from a biological standpoint? What part does the loyal, ignorant opposition play in that? What are some better questions? Mike http://www.ellensburg.com/~digress/ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Mon Feb 10 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser Date: 11 Feb 1997 02:00:16 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 239 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <199702111000.CAA01058@net.bio.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net (LAST REVISION: 30-JUL-95) This BIOSCI "miniFAQ" is designed to answer the questions that come up the *most frequently*. The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL http://www.bio.net/. If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other documentation, the BIOSCI technical support staff answers e-mail queries sent to biosci-help@net.bio.net We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and mailing lists. 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Sincerely, Dave Kristofferson BIOSCI/bionet Manager biosci-help@net.bio.net From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 11 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.enteract.com!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!136.142.185.26!newsfeed.pitt.edu!unixs4.cis.pitt.edu!mattf+ From: Matt Fraser Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Confused Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:49:08 -0500 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 50 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: unixs4.cis.pitt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mattf@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu Hey All, I am a little confused over the lack of response to The Paleo Ring. Unfortunately, just after the time that I first posted my announcement about it, The Webring organization had some server problems. So, if you tried it out or tried to submit your URL, it wouldn't work. Also, some might not be able to use the submission form. You can email me the information directly in lieu of using the form. I'm also worried about confusion as to the nature of the ring. It is merely a way for similar themed Websites to have yet another link. These Webrings are extremely popular for other themes (they get lots of traffic) and this Webring is actually ground breaking as the first Science theme in existence. But so far, I only have my page, the Paleo Ring Home Page, the web page of my Co-editor of PaleoNews, a nice page devoted to Richard Dawkins. There is also one in the queue that has yet to add the HTML code for the machinery. Which leads to another concern. If you don't like the image that I chose (it's a photo of the type specimen of T. rex), then I am open to suggestions for other images to be used. If you don't want to use images, then the text links are OK. I just thought the images looked pretty nice. Anyway, if you have a website or even a page, that largely devoted to and promotes paleontology, paleoanthropology, prehistoric archeology, the evolution of behavior or evolutionary biology in general, why not join? *Please, if someone has some insights, I'd appreciate a private email on the matter.* Thanks, Matt The Paleo Ring http://www.pitt.edu/~mattf/PaleoRing.html ________________________________________________________________ Matt Fraser "The Real World is very complex and chaotic, mattf+@pitt.edu so that, in order to survive, humans find it necessary to construct an illusion of reality." Author Unknown ________________________________________________________________ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 11 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!uwm.edu!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!cnusc.fr!unix13.u-3mrs.fr!news From: Nicolas TILIACOS Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: HELP : copaifera species Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 18:02:03 +0100 Organization: Laboratoire de Reactivité Organique Sélective Lines: 8 Message-ID: <32FA0E8B.3784@educ-001.u-3mrs.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ms551u05.u-3mrs.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Hello I am Nicolas Tiliacos and I am a PhD student (chemistry) in Marseilles, France. I am looking for maps on geographical situation of copaifera species (South America). Please, could you help me Thanks Nicolas From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 11 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!zephyr.texoma.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!144.80.128.13!grove.iup.edu!jake.esu.edu!kirc5650 Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: homosexuality as population control Message-ID: <5dqmpr$crd$1@jake.esu.edu> From: kirc5650@kutztown.edu (Adam K. Kirchhoff) Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:02:51 GMT Organization: Kutztown University of Pennsylvania, USA NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.kutztown.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 15 I am looking for any information, or references to information, about the possibility of a correlation between the population denisty of a population and an increase in the rate of homosexuality. I have heard it said that homosexuality might actually be a means of slowing down population growth and, therefore, as the population density increases so do the occurances of homosexuality. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you for your time. -- ***************************************** * Adam Kirchhoff * * kirc5650@kutztown.edu * * http://www.kutztown.edu/~kirc5650 * * PGP Public key available * ***************************************** From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Wed Feb 12 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ELLENSBURG.COM!digress From: digress@ELLENSBURG.COM (Mike Pearson) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: homosexuality as population control Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:14:37 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 37 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9702121930.AA04796@ellensburg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net At 09:02 PM 2/11/97 Adam Kirchoff wrote: > I am looking for any information, or references to information, >about the possibility of a correlation between the population denisty of >a population and an increase in the rate of homosexuality. I have heard >it said that homosexuality might actually be a means of slowing down >population growth and, therefore, as the population density increases so >do the occurances of homosexuality. Any information would be >appreciated. Thank you for your time. references to common facts and ideas borrowed which prove true. 1) Human and 2) animal are two branches of a model. 1) Europe's record of lower birth rate might be due to higher technology and prosperity which might have come from cultures less orthodox and more tolerant of single adults, (even to the point of demanding many should not marry) who had no parenting duties and over the centuries therefore had more time to develop the artifacts of wealth and amusement And with higher prosperity comes greater awareness of logistic issues, and better planning. (part of this idea was suggested by Robert Anton Wilson) Communist China's population is dense but not so tolerant...or are they. 2) With animals, there is no year-round estrus or "heat"and every species differs as to effect of homosexuality on reproductive rate. Method of reproduction varies widely. In both 1) and 2), It only takes two to give rise to many and if one pair doesn't, another just might do it for both. Mike http://www.ellensburg.com/~digress/ From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 13 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: animaux@ix.netcom.com(:) Newsgroups: bionet.plants,bionet.population-bio,sci.bio.ecology,sci.bio.entomology.misc Subject: Re: anthills and profuse growth of shrub Spirea media (Rosaceae) Date: 14 Feb 1997 14:26:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: <5e1sne$cfq@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dh3i6$ss0@onlink3.onlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal-tx1-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 14 8:26:54 AM CST 1997 Xref: biosci bionet.plants:14454 bionet.population-bio:2214 sci.bio.ecology:24061 sci.bio.entomology.misc:4297 In KMEYER@mzdmza.zdv.uni-mainz.de (Karsten Meyer) writes: >robert.liebermann@wmich.edu (robert liebermann) wrote: >> [snip] >> I frequently found that growth of vegetation was quite lush >> near the anthills, especially of the shrub Spirea media (Rosceae). >> [snip] > >-- >Karsten Meyer Ants aerate the soil bringing oxygen and other air components down to the root zone. I believe it is really quite this simple, rather than complex. Victoria From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 13 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!boingo.amil.jhu.edu!blaze.cs.jhu.edu!news.jhu.edu!news From: John Robinson Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:53:14 -0500 Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Lines: 41 Message-ID: <3303712A.3E39@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32F90C1C.253E@medtronic.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.220.136.146 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Rebecca Steele wrote: > > Prove to me that a "supreme being" created that mountain. I can prove > to you that dinosaurs were here, I can also prove to you that by > simple erosion that mountains can be made. I think you're experiencing a difference in language here: how can you 'prove' that dinosaurs were here? I actually agree with you, but the fact that fossilized bones can be found doesn't 'prove' anything beyond that the fossils exist. It is my belief that they are the relics of animals that lived and died more than 65 mill. yrs. ago, based on current scientific knowledge. On the other hand, there is no way that I know of to 'prove' that they were not created in place 2 or 3 thousand years ago (or whatever time period has been calculated for the creation of the world)(or even a couple hours ago, for that matter). Presumably an omnipotent God would be able to do that. As for mountains (and this is just a quibble) erosion reduces them, but I'm not aware of any way in which erosion could create one (although of course I am no geologist). The core here is that, in my opinion, he is just as able to 'prove' his point as you are. Depending on your assumptions about the world, the same facts may support quite different conclusions. Arguments based on logic, therefore, are rather a waste of time and effort. In other words, keep cool; don't get so worked up about it, since you're not likely to change anyone's mind about religion by appealing to reason. Soothingly Yours, JR > > The thought of these new terms just makes me furious. I have a big > problem with lack of education. Do you really think that humans should > be living in the past, refusing to educate themselves? I can't imagine > not knowing about breast cancer, coronary artery disease, or the > problems that arise from smoking. We are essentially killing ourselves > if we do not continue to learn. I hope that you will address my > questions. > > Rebecca > Rebecca From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 13 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!torn!nott!cunews!wabakimi!gharring From: gharring@chat.carleton.ca (Greg Harrington) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: 14 Feb 1997 20:27:31 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5e2hrj$i24@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <9702090417.AA21785@ellensburg.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wabakimi.carleton.ca NNTP-Posting-User: gharring X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > However, are? human beings are knowledgeable enough to make > wholesale judgements which traits humanity should have in future, > except by choosing our own mates? Yet humans _are_ choosing > and will in a few generations have completed the fastest, most > complete job of re-landscaping (and repopulation) the planet has > ever experienced as far as we know...with planning taking second priority. Faster reshapings have presumably happened before (collisions with other bodies). > Does anyone here deny this future is likely? Extremely likely > Any suggestions what to do, from a biological standpoint? > What part does the loyal, ignorant opposition play in that? Just sit back and enjoy the ride. > What are some better questions? ? One thing many people seem to forget in discussion about evolution/environmental changes is that we humans are a part of the theory. We are just another creature in the big picture of planet earth. The changes we bring to the planet are just evolution at work. Who knows perhaps in our efforts to change the world we'll kill ourselves off and some other species will have a go at champion status. From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 13 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!nimr.mrc.ac.uk!d-polloc From: d-polloc@nimr.mrc.ac.uk ("David Pollock") Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: 14 Feb 1997 13:09:20 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 31 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <9702142110.ZM11631@glycine.nimr.mrc.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Greg Harrington wrote: " One thing many people seem to forget in discussion about evolution/environmental changes is that we humans are a part of the theory. We are just another creature in the big picture of planet earth. The changes we bring to the planet are just evolution at work. Who knows perhaps in our efforts to change the world we'll kill ourselves off and some other species will have a go at champion status. " This makes about as much sense as claiming that mountain climbers shouldn't worry about falling off of cliffs because it's all part of the theory of gravity. Darwinian evolutionary theory and social planning have never been a particularly comfortable mix. -- David D. Pollock Laboratory of Mathematical Biology National Institute for Medical Research The Ridgeway, Mill Hill, London, NW7 1AA U.K. d-polloc@nimr.mrc.ac.uk http://www.nimr.mrc.ac.uk/~mathbio/d-polloc/ 0181-959-3666 ext. 2396 (+44-181-959-3666) Fax: 0181-913-8545 From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Fri Feb 14 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!mindspring!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!cs.utk.edu!utk.edu!not-for-mail From: Massimo Pigliucci Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: On Darwinian Evolution Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:54:06 -0500 Organization: University of Tennessee Lines: 57 Message-ID: <3306145E.387E@utk.edu> References: <32F6D4DF.5AF3@fair.net> <5d8rhv$miu@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32F90C1C.253E@medtronic.com> <3303712A.3E39@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> Reply-To: pigliucci@utk.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: tchm01a12.rmt.utk.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: John Robinson I'd like to make a couple of remarks on the exchange between John and Rebecca (although I also have to point out once more that this isn't exactly the appropriate group for creation-evolution debates...) > Rebecca Steele wrote: > > > > Prove to me that a "supreme being" created that mountain. I can prove > > to you that dinosaurs were here, I can also prove to you that by > simple erosion that mountains can be made. >there is no way that I > know of to 'prove' that they were not created in place 2 or 3 thousand > years ago (or whatever time period has been calculated for the creation > of the world)(or even a couple hours ago, for that matter). Actually, the belief that the dinosaurs were created in place a few thousands here ago can easily be disproven by several independent pieces of evidence (geologic stratigraphy and radio-dating, for example). True, technically nobody can "prove" anything. But we can disprove things (Popper called it "falsification"). >Presumably > an omnipotent God would be able to do that. Yes, but would anybody - including Christians - really be satisfied with a God that created the whole world just to poke fun at us? If that's heaven, I'd rather look the other way... >As for mountains (and this > is just a quibble) erosion reduces them, but I'm not aware of any way in > which erosion could create one (although of course I am no geologist). No, erosion cannot create mountains. Tectonic movements can and do, however. And again, the evidence in favor is overwhelming. >Arguments based on > logic, therefore, are rather a waste of time and effort. That is correct as far as zealots go. But a lot more people than you think are actually reasonable, doubts can be instilled in their minds. Most often, people simply haven't thought about things, and a reasoned and calm help can do... miracles! cheers, Massimo -- ******************************************************* Massimo Pigliucci, phone 423-974-6221 fax 0978 Dept. of Botany, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN 37996-1100 Lab page http://www.bio.utk.edu/botany/pgl/mphome.html Science & Society http://www.bio.utk.edu/botany/pgl/s&s/s&s.html Darwin Day http://www.bio.utk.edu/botany/darwin/root.html 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.' Woody Allen, from "Stardust memories" ******************************************************* From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 15 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!news.pacbell.net!usenet From: Jack Mingo Newsgroups: alt.planning.transportation,alt.president.clinton,aus.computers,aus.computers.sun,bionet.microbiology,bionet.population-bio,k.sys.channel0,misc.consumers,misc.education,misc.education.home-school.christian,misc.forsale.computers.printers,misc.invest.stocks,misc.jobs.offered,misc.transport.urban-transit,rec.arts.poems,rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled,rec.autos.sport.rally,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.boats.paddle,rec.climbing,rec.food.chocolate,rec.games.board.ce,rec.games.chess.analysis,rec.games.chess.play-by-email,rec.games.frp.marketplace,rec.games.miniatures.misc,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.pinball,rec.games.roguelike.moria,rec.games.video.advocacy,rec.misc,rec.motorcycles.dirt,rec.music.afro-latin,rec.music.collecting.vinyl,rec.music.makers, Subject: Re: #WRITERS WANTED Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:20:18 -0800 Organization: Fresh puns baked daily Lines: 23 Message-ID: <33068B02.469C@pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-170-3-202.okld03.pacbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: biosci bionet.microbiology:8919 bionet.population-bio:2220 misc.consumers:112557 misc.education:60967 misc.education.home-school.christian:22437 misc.forsale.computers.printers:27575 misc.invest.stocks:213215 misc.jobs.offered:1998870 misc.transport.urban-transit:68175 rec.arts.poems:137549 rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled:25272 rec.autos.sport.rally:2052 rec.aviation.homebuilt:48064 rec.boats.paddle:64789 rec.climbing:102667 rec.food.chocolate:7116 rec.games.board.ce:4425 rec.games.chess.analysis:9040 rec.games.chess.play-by-email:6084 rec.games.frp.marketplace:32486 rec.games.miniatures.misc:9970 rec.games.mud.misc:24386 rec.games.pinball:74534 rec.games.roguelike.moria:3847 rec.games.video.advocacy:45363 rec.misc:5794 rec.motorcycles.dirt:51232 rec.music.afro-latin:14737 rec.music.collecting.vinyl:13103 rec.music.makers:35935 >The Woodside Literary Agency is accepting new & previously >published writers for publication. 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For ALL fiction & >nonfiction/ send brief synopsis/ first chapter/ >include a self addressed, stamped envelope: S.A.S.E. >Poetry: send 3 poems/ S.A.S.E. >Short Stories: send brief synopsis/ 3 pages/ S.A.S.E. >Do not send complete manuscript unless invited to do so. >WOODSIDE LITERARY AGENCY >0000 North Spammer Blvd. >Macro Island\ Florida >Zip: 00000 >Tel: 000-000-0000 Don't even THINK of sending anything to this "literary agency" before you've read my article: http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/styles/97/02/13/NET_STALKING.html Jack Mingo misc.writing goodwill ambassador From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Tue Feb 18 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!rutgers.rutgers.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.nacamar.de!news.ecrc.de!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!garion.telecom.at!news-admin@telecom.at From: Dominik Aigner Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: "REDBACK-SPIDER WANTED" Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:08:29 -0800 Organization: Aigner DOminik Steyr Lines: 6 Message-ID: <330B79DD.35C2@aon.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: sp03port16.highway.telecom.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01I [de] (Win95; I; 16bit) > I`m searching for a picture of the beautiful spider-animal! > If anybody of You`re able to send me pictures of the spider, > don`t wait a minute, please. > Please, tell me an e-mailadress or the library I can ask for it! > > Thanks a lot! From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 20 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!RRPAC.UPR.CLU.EDU!jtorres From: jtorres@RRPAC.UPR.CLU.EDU (Juan A Torres) Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Re: *** BEST WAY TO MAKE QUICK CASH ** Date: 21 Feb 1997 15:52:13 -0800 Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Molecular Biology Lines: 2 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <5ekb8r$98t@hil-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net You are so altruist that I cried when I was reading about your silly scheme. From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Sat Feb 22 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail From: "Alexey M. Eroshkin" Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: ANNOUNCE: ProMSED2 for those working with protein or DNA sequences Date: 23 Feb 1997 07:06:55 -0000 Organization: State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology VECTOR Lines: 109 Sender: lpddist@mserv1.dl.ac.uk Distribution: bionet Message-ID: <5eoqaf$o7j@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Original-To: pop-bio@dl.ac.uk To: pop-bio@dl.ac.uk From: eroshkin@vector.nsk.su Subject: ANNOUNCE: ProMSED2 for those working with protein or DNA sequences ProMSED2: Protein Multiple Sequence EDitor-2 for Win 3.11/95 State Research Center of Virology an Biotechnology "Vector" Institute of Molecular Biology Koltsovo, Novosibirsk Region, 633159 Russia ProMSED2, Windows application for both automatic and manual DNA and protein sequence alignment, editing, comparison and analysis is available from EBI software library: ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/dos/promsed/prsed2_.exe (as self-extracted archive). If you have access to e-mail only, the program can be obtained via e-mail by sending the following message: To: BITFTP@pucc.Princeton.EDU From: YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS ftp ftp.ebi.ac.uk uuencode user anonymous cd pub/software/dos/promsed get prsed2_.exe quit Server will return you uuencoded program in several files. Running UUDECODE you'll get the archive with the program. DESCRIPTION ProMSED2 is the enhancement of ProMSED made according to user's remarks and suggestions. The program reads main sequence formats and performs automatic alignments, alignment visualization and editing and it allows sequences to be aligned interactively leaving unchanged previously aligned regions. The program has an user-friendly interface. Manual alignment and sequence analysis are facilitated by coloring schemes reflecting amino acid similarity in mutational, physico-chemical and other properties. Although ProMSED was targeted at protein sequences, it can be used on DNA sequences as well. The program provides flexible tool for sequences alignment, analysis, visualization, edition and presentation preparation. The program does or has (+ - NEW or enhanced features): + inputs DNA and protein sequences in NBRF/PIR, Pearson (Fasta), MSF (GCG), EMBL/SwissProt, Intelligenetics and CLUSTAL formats; o has interface and functions like in others Windows applications (source file view, font changing, marking/unmarking, block and sequence selection, cut and paste, UNDO, etc.); o loads several sequence families in different windows, adds sequences to existing alignment, combines sequences from various files; + outputs the alignment in several popular formats; + makes presentation quality color and black-and-white prints of complete alignment or any selected block; + saves alignment picture as Windows metafile and bitmap; o permits to apply automatic alignment interactively (with options to change the alignment parameters) to any selected part of sequences of marked block; + calculates sequence similarity of complete sequences, of any selected sequence subset or of marked block in % and in PAM250 units (matrix of amino acid similarity); + calculates total (average for %) sequence similarity value - an estimation of alignment quality; + prints sequence similarity matrix; + sorts sequences by similarity of complete sequences or marked block; + displays conserved and semiconserved positions; + has many amino acid coloring schemes aimed to facilitate manual alignment and understanding protein sequence features. Some schemes are: EVOLUTIONARY CONSERVATIVE (reflects amino acid mutational properties), COMPLEX (similarity of amino acids in physico-chemical properties), HYDROPHOBICITY, CHARGE, BIG RESIDUES, ALPHA-HELIX, HELIX-BREAKERS, etc. The options to input user-defined schemes or change the colors of any amino acid groups are available; + searches subsequences and complex sequence patterns; o has complete HELP. Special thanks to Dr.Desmond Higgins for source code of ClustalV. Installed educational is restricted in number and length of sequences. Comments, bug reports and suggestions for new features are welcome and should be sent by email to eroshkin@vector.nsk.su. We would be happy to get feedback from you. Other our programs available at the same ftp site: -------------------------------------------------- ProAnWin: Protein structure-activity/property analysis and design of protein engineering experiments (for MS Windows 3.x/95, manual and automatic alignment, 3D mono/stereo pictures, physico-chemical analysis, etc.). 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Douglas Martin, Ph.D. Professor of Statistics, University of Washington Chief Scientist, Data Analysis Products Division of MathSoft, Inc. This tutorial provides an introduction to univariate and multivariate generalized autoregressive heteroscedastic (GARCH) modeling of financial returns time series data, with a focus on modeling conditional volatilities and correlations. Basic aspects of the various models are discussed, including: conditions for stationarity, optimization techniques for maximum likelihood estimation of the models, use of the estimated conditional standard deviations for value-at-risk calculations and options pricing, use of conditional correlations in obtaining conditional volatilities for portfolios. Examples are provided using the S+GARCH object-oriented toolkit for GARCH modeling. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Time Series Tools for Finance Andreas Wiegend, Ph.D. Professor, Stern School of Business, New York University This tutorial presents a unifying view of the recent advances of neuro-fuzzy, and other machine learning techniques for time series and finance. It is given jointly by Prof. Andreas Wiegend (Stern School of Business, NYU), and Dr. Georg Zimmerman (Siemens AG, Munich), and presents both conceptual aspects of time series modeling, specific tricks for financial engineering problems, and software engineering aspects for building a trading system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- An Introduction to Evolutionary Computation David B. Fogel, PhD Chief Scientist, Natural Selection, Inc., La Jolla Evolutionary computation encompasses a broad field of optimization algorithms that can be applied to diverse, difficult real-world problems. It is particularly useful in addressing stochastic, nonlinear, and time-varying optimization problems, including those arising in financial engineering. This tutorial will provide background on the inspiration, history, and the practical application of evolutionary computation to problems typical of those encountered in financial engineering. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Models for Stochastic Volatility: Some Recent Developments Nuno Cato Professor, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark Pedro J. F. de Lima Professor, The Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore In this tutorial, we will firstly discuss the importance of modeling stock market's volatility. Secondly, we will review the basic properties of GARCH- type and SV-type models and some of their most successful extensions, namely the SWitching ARCH (SWARCH) models. The performance of these models will be illustrated with some real data examples. Thirdly, we will discuss some problems with the estimation of these models and with their use for risk forecasting. Fourthly, we will describe some recent research and some novel extensions to these models, such as the Long-Memory Stochastic Volatility (LMSV) and the SWitching Stochastic Volatility (SWSV) models. By using examples from recent stock market behavior we illustrate the capabilities and shortcomings of these new modeling and forecasting tools. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-population-bio@net.bio.net Thu Feb 27 22:00:00 1997 Path: biosci!biosci!not-for-mail From: tim.t.j.kedwards@gbjha.zeneca.com (Tim Kedwards) Newsgroups: bionet.software,sci.bio.ecology,bionet.population-bio Subject: SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT:Multivariate Methods in Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry Date: 27 Feb 1997 20:54:51 -0800 Organization: Zeneca Agrochemicals Lines: 148 Sender: daemon@net.bio.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ekd8g$crm@mailhost.zeneca.co.uk> Reply-To: m.crane@rhbnc.ac.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: net.bio.net Xref: biosci bionet.software:18000 sci.bio.ecology:24556 bionet.population-bio:2226 **** SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT & REGISTRATION FORM **** SETAC-EUROPE (UK BRANCH) One day meeting =20 Multivariate Methods in Environmental Toxicology and Chemistry 24 April 1997 Royal Holloway University of London, Egham, UK Speakers include Paul van den Brink (DLO Winand Staring Centre) Ordination of responses to toxic stress in experimental ecosystems Bob Clarke (Plymouth Marine Laboratory) Non-metric multivariate analysis in community-level ecotoxicology Brian Everitt (Institute of Psychiatry) Exploring multivariate data graphically Martyn Ford (University of Portsmouth) Multivariate analyses of laboratory ecotoxicity data David Hirst (MLURI)=20 Multivariate analysis of airborne pollution deposited in rime ice Tim Kedwards (Zeneca Agrochemicals) Multivariate analyses at Zeneca Agrochemicals Tim Sparks (NERC Institute of Terrestrial Ecology) Multivariate techniques: setting the scene =20 Bill Walley (Staffordshire University) Biomonitoring of river quality: an Artificial Intelligence approach to=20 data interpretation =20 =20 Registration Form =20 The registration fee for attending this meeting is, SETAC Ordinary Member =A355 Non-member =A390 SETAC Student Member =A315 Student Non-member =A325 Please make cheques payable to SETAC-UK. Cheques must be drawn on a UK bank. Registration includes lunch, morning and afternoon refreshments and a book of abstracts. Name (for=20 badge)................................................................... Address.................................................................. ....... ......................................................................... ....... ......................................................................... ....... .............. Telephone................................................................ ....... Fax...................................................................... ....... Email.................................................................... ....... Please return your registration form with payment to=20 =20 Dr Mark Crane School of Biological Sciences Royal Holloway=20 University of London Egham Surrey=20 TW20 OEX UK. Tel. +44 (0)1784 443372=20 Fax +44 (0)1784 470756 Email m.crane@rhbnc.ac.uk We are still able to accept poster presentations. Please contact Mark Crane if you wish to offer a poster for this meeting Draft Programme 9.30 Registration and coffee Morning session chaired by Mark Crane 9.55 Introduction from chair 10.00 Tim Sparks Multivariate techniques: setting the scene 10.30 Brian Everitt Exploring multivariate data graphically 11.00 Coffee 11.30 Martyn Ford Multivariate analyses of laboratory ecotoxicity data 12.00 David Hirst Multivariate analysis of airborne pollution deposited in rime ice 12.30 Lunch Afternoon session chaired by Peter Chapman 2.00 Tim Kedwards Multivariate analyses at Zeneca Agrochemicals 2.30 Paul v d Brink Ordination of responses to toxic stress in experimental ecosystems 3.00 Bob Clarke Non-metric multivariate analysis in community-level ecotoxicology 3.30 Tea 4.00 Bill Walley Biomonitoring of river quality: an Artificial Intelligence approach to data interpretation 4.30 Summary & discussion (chaired by Tim Sparks) 5.00 End