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It takes only a few months to make a baby and years to raise, but your neighbors' behavior is half the battle too. Will they over-populate the planet? ( It is never _your_ children who over-populate.) We know that fetishes for cosmetic traits influence sexual selection and behavior. Certainly homosexuality, if encouraged, reduces the number of behaviors which would by chance lead to conceiving children. If encouraged, will this strategy prevent over-population? I'm not so sure that is a good reason for doing it. After all, we don't really want to presume that homosexuals won't or shouldn't reproduce, and besides, natural selection would then fill the gap with someone else's busily reproducing. Domestic instincts are not inherited habits in tumbler pigeons, Darwin observed. However, Darwin and biology allow that the human mind is able to cause habits to be inherited, in a way, through the perpetuation of external programs. Rather than or along with sexual behaviors, we really must aim higher for solutions to looming population surpluses. We ought to try for an age of high-minded-ness. Practical, appreciative and diverse, this world would find intelligence where it has been over-looked. The rainforest has undiscovered pharmaceuticals, and persons have far horizons for one another to explore. Part Two It is fair to credit Western Civilization with discovering much of modern life's greatest conveniences. But as Ian McHarg wrote, "The supremacy of modern over primitive man is the inheritance of the tools, information and powers from his predecessors. While there are a few exceptions, 'wild nature' seldom provides an ideal environment and those who live in primitive societies are susceptible to disease, suffer from a short life-span and are vulnerable to extremes of heat and cold, drought, starvation and exposure. They often suffer from fears and superstitions, but they have frequently acquired an astonishing empirical knowledge of their environment, its creatures and their processes. This is absorbed into religion or superstitions. Indeed it might well be said that their success, their adaptation, is precisely this understanding. Societies that sustained themselves for these many millennia are testimony to this understanding; it is indeed the best evidence in support of brain, the presumptive manager of the biosphere." That was by Ian L. McHarg. The point here is to remember that instinct is not going to take us through. High-minded-ness is the key to the future. Human beings might not all partake, but surely every tribe on Earth has members who can. Conclusion So what is high-minded-ness? 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We appologize for any inconvenience. --- From owner-pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 04:07:28 2000 Return-Path: Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 9AF5117AF7; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:27 +0100 (BST) Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 6024) id 45A1617AEB; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:26 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD7D8415D5 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:25 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id EAA22548 for pop-bio-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:25 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: digressforever@hotmail.com ("Michael W. Pearson") X-Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Not necessarily an endorsement Date: 27 Jun 2000 04:07:24 +0100 Organization: BIOSCI/MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Lines: 23 Message-ID: <39581E73.8E0C1B15@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 962075245 22546 193.62.192.80 (27 Jun 2000 03:07:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@net.bio.net X-Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 6024) id B786A17AEB; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:22 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from larry.ellensburg.com (larry.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.2]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44214415D5 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:07:21 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from hotmail.com (mate74.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.74]) by larry.ellensburg.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA22743 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) X-To: pop-bio@net.bio.net To: pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk There has never been a proper science of human history because our events proceeded from erroneous thinking as much as from mechanics. (Science looks for mechanics.) >From an angel's eye view, data flowed quite incoherently through populations and events 'til recent times, and still is fairly incoherent. The highest thinkers (ie. those most respectful of logical fallacies) are most altruistic, if not always pragmatic. However, they are far outnumbered by the middlemen ( and women) whose petty grievances, banal patter, and seeming hormones of envy seem to themselves and to a plurality of information consumers more valid than algebra. More soon. --- From owner-pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Tue Jun 27 04:58:38 2000 Return-Path: Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 110) id 08A7217B09; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:37 +0100 (BST) Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 6024) id E7DC217A60; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (niobium [193.62.192.41]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC6A415D5 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:35 +0100 (BST) Received: (from news@localhost) by niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) id EAA23142 for pop-bio-list@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:34 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk: news set sender to using -f From: digressforever@hotmail.com ("Michael W. Pearson") X-Newsgroups: bionet.population-bio Subject: Response to a typical message Date: 27 Jun 2000 04:58:32 +0100 Organization: BIOSCI/MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Lines: 35 Message-ID: <39582A70.89780B20@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 962078313 23139 193.62.192.80 (27 Jun 2000 03:58:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@net.bio.net X-Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 6024) id 6663317A60; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:31 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from larry.ellensburg.com (larry.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.2]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B959B415D5 for ; Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:58:29 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from hotmail.com (mate66.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.66]) by larry.ellensburg.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA23426 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) X-To: pop-bio@net.bio.net To: pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Dear Reader, I only plan to post a total of four messages to this group in the month following my first post. I would like to have a radio talk show but since I don't, the BIONET is even better in some ways. Even if only the computers are reading it. In http://www.bio.net/hypermail/pop-bio/pop-bio.199907/0002.html somebody named treetop@newsguy.com called me a leftist, and he meant that "in a bad way." I am not. That kind of discourtesy seems to mark the people who actually know the least. ( BTW, I like some leftists but loathe others. I am in fact a competent thinker, not an ideologue at all.) Treetop's rhetorical style is not atypical of radio talk shows, and like them, seldom do intelligent people reply. treetop@newsguy.com apparently could not even discuss a technical issue such as biology, psychology, or economics except to chant some anti-Constitutional dogma and do some name calling. Could not even quote me accurately. He or she quotes several writers and implies I am all the speakers. (Could be a major-league media person?) 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Date: 28 Jun 2000 09:15:33 +0100 Organization: BIOSCI/MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre Lines: 38 Message-ID: <3959B82D.B85585DB@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: niobium.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk 962180134 22390 193.62.192.80 (28 Jun 2000 08:15:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@net.bio.net X-Received: by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 6024) id 23FCC17AF8; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:15:32 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from larry.ellensburg.com (larry.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.2]) by mercury.hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED87415DC for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:15:30 +0100 (BST) X-Received: from hotmail.com (mate60.ellensburg.com [206.66.62.60]) by larry.ellensburg.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA11513 for ; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:12:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) X-To: pop-bio@net.bio.net To: pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Sender: owner-pop-bio@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk Precedence: bulk I am sorry if the following is not entertaining; the angel-eye view is not included this time. But you can see this forest _and_ the trees in your mind's best theater of imagination if you will take ten minutes. Gordon Liddy today envisioned something like a big picture debate between scientists and "A group" Jesuits. Ego should not get involved. We humans are real beginners in the thinking department. There's a lot more to it all . . . These are questions from a moderator to each panel: 1) Do they primarily defend their current world views or dare to outline scenarios for a much better understanding in future? Why? If the former, how could they dare in light of the embarrassing facts? 2) If each group admits its history is full of errors later corrected, in what degree would they say that its current world view is like a temporary shelter pending the construction of a better version? 3) Though science or religion seem _not ever_ to be free from value judgments, to what extent should the _evaluation processes_ of religion or science proceed without applying the traditions of that system, until the big picture emerges. 4) What provision is made for the questions of individuals who are not high in the hierarchy of your system? As a moderator, I would not let them wander far from these questions. 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