From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 01 22:00:00 1993
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From: huh@wccf.mit.edu (GENE SIMON HUH)
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Subject: proteins of desired molecular weight range
Keywords: molecular weight
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Hello,
Can anybody tell me if there is an easy way to get the names of all proteins 
within a specified molecular weight range?  I assume that database search 
programs must be fitted for this kind of query, but I haven't seen anything of 
the type.
Thanks in advance,
Gene Huh   HUH@wccf.mit.edu 

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From: drg@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu (Duke Groebe)
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Subject: Re: protein sequence data base
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In article <drg-011193150411@ache.pharm.pitt.edu>,
drg@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu (Duke Groebe) wrote:
*> 
*> In article <93294.143248AXC19@psuvm.psu.edu>, AXC19@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
*> > 
*> > I need some guidance on what and where or who to go to ...I finally
got the *ami
*> > no acid sequence of a protein of interest...Now, how can I do an
aminoacid *comp
*> > arison to other proteins and figure out if it has already been
isolated.  *Any h
*> > elp will be appreciated.
*> >                          Thanks,
*> >                          Aida Cancel
*> >                           axc19@psuvm.psu.edu




If you don't have a gopher service and you want software, ftp to
ftp.bio.indiana.edu, login as "anonymous" and give your e-mail address as
the password.  Once you've learned how to get around the directories and
files using the ftp, you can find lotsa software there that will do exactly
what you want and more.

Duke

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From: sgex400@uk.ac.lon.sghms (MJ Duggan)
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Subject: Re: protein sequence data base (fwd)
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The question (see below) was about how to do database searches if you
haven't doenthem before. I was in this situation a few months ago, and rather
than fuss around finding someone with the program and database locally
I used the email servers available by Internet. Either Blitz at EMBL or 
Blast at NCBI are very good and very easy to use. There was a good article
in the Computer Corner bit of TIBS about 6 Months ago, that has all the
addresses.

> 
> In article <93294.143248AXC19@psuvm.psu.edu>, AXC19@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> > 
> > I need some guidance on what and where or who to go to ...I finally got the ami
> > no acid sequence of a protein of interest...Now, how can I do an aminoacid comp
> > arison to other proteins and figure out if it has already been isolated.  Any h
> > elp will be appreciated.
> >                          Thanks,
> >                          Aida Cancel
> >                           axc19@psuvm.psu.edu
> 
> 
> Well, first of all you need access to the various protein databases that
> are out there.  Second, you need a program that can access the files in
> those databases and search them for the sequence(s) you want to look for. 
> Since you're at PSU, you may already have such a capacity in your
> department, if not next door (isn't there a big biotech center there?). 
> Ask around there for freebie help.
> 
> You may be able to find all the free software you need via the multitude of
> gopher servers on the Net.  Try them also.
> 
> You can buy both databases and sequence analysis programs from Gentics
> Computer Group, Inc. (GCG) Telephone: 608-231-5200; E-mail: Help@GCG.com. 
> Intelligenetics also sells the stuff (I forget the phone #, but they
> advertise alot).
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Duke
> 

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From: apham@maxwell.phy.ulaval.ca (Alain Pham)
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Subject: TSPP: A chemical product wanted
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Hi,

For my research I'm presently looking for this chemicals:

Tetrasodium 5, 10,15, 20-tetra(4-sulfonatophenyl)-porphin

Does anyone knows about it ? Does anyone knows about any
chemical companies in USA or Europe selling this product ?
If you have any information please feel free to mail me
directly at apham@phy.ulaval.ca

Thanks for any help. Regards.


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 02 22:00:00 1993
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From: mbxfd@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (Fergus Doherty)
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Subject: Antibodies to cytochrome c?
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Bionetters

Anyone know where I can get antibodies to mammalian cytochrome c (horse
heart preferably, but other commercially available cytochrome c would do),
to the whole protein or to peptides derived from it?

Thanks 

Fergus Doherty,
dept. Biochemistry,
University Medical School,
Queen's Medical Centre,
Nottingham NG7 2UH
Tel: 602 709366  FAX 602 422225 Internet: mbxfd@unicorn.nott.ac.uk

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Nov 03 22:00:00 1993
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From: nitika@imtech.ernet.in
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Subject: PERIPLASMIC PROTEIN ISOLATION.
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Dear SCIENTISTS,
                 I am isolating the periplasmic fraction of E.coli for release
of an enzyme. Am presently usind osmotic shock treatment( sucrose shock)
as well as combinee treatment with lysozyme. Both the methods are leading
to the lysis of the cells without miantenance of intact spheroplasts.What
could be the reason? Kindly suggest another method. Thank you.
                                                     NITIKA THAPAR.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 04 22:00:00 1993
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From: rpm@bach.wag.caltech.edu (Richard P. Muller)
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Subject: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins
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I would be interested in hearing comments on a technique published
recently in Science (262, p.734) to solubilize membrane proteins. This
technique complexes the proteins with an alpha helix with a flat
hydrophobic surface which interacts with the flat hydrophobic surfaces
of the membrane proteins. Results were cited where 85% of
bacteriorhodopsin and 60% of rhodopsin remained in solution in their
native forms after 2 days.

I'm interested in studying the chemistry of membrane proteins. One
constant frustration is that few reliable crystal structures exist for
membrane proteins. Because my background is quantum chemistry rather
than protein crystallography, I'm unfamiliar with the subtleties
involved in crystallizing proteins. How widely applicable is the
technique used in this paper? Can I expect to see hundreds of crystal
structures for membrane proteins flowing into the protein data base,
or am I overestimating the importance of this work? To my eyes the
technique seems to be of monumental impact.

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: PERIPLASMIC PROTEIN ISOLATION.
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nitika@imtech.ernet.in wrote:

: I am isolating the periplasmic fraction of E.coli for release
: of an enzyme. Am presently usind osmotic shock treatment( sucrose shock)
: as well as combinee treatment with lysozyme. Both the methods are leading
: to the lysis of the cells without miantenance of intact spheroplasts.What
: could be the reason? Kindly suggest another method. Thank you.

Two years ago I used the following method for the release of antibody
Vl fragment expressed in E. coli periplasm:

- Add 2 ml 1 mM EDTA in BBS (which is 160 mM NaCl, 200 mM boric acid,
  pH 8 with NaOH) per gram wet cell weight.
- Stir the solution at least 30 minutes at 4 degrees Celcius.
- Get rid of the spheroblasts by centrifugation (SS34, 20 min, 20000 rpm,
  4C). 
- Get rid of membrane fragments etc. by sterilfiltration of the supernatant.

Hope it helps, Cornelius.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 05 22:00:00 1993
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From: David_Nunn@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (David Nunn)
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Subject: mutator strain or plasmid
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Does anyone have a favorite mutator strain of E. coli or mutator plasmid
that they have used successfully for random mutagenesis?

 I'd prefer a strain or compatible plasmid in which I could mutagenize
sequences cloned in a broad host range plasmid (IncP1) and then be able to
mobilize directly out of the strain into Pseudomonas (EC strain must be
Tc-sensitive and auxotrophic) 

 I've got either a bum strain of EC LE30 (mutD) or it just isn't doing the
trick (mutagenesis-wise). I've been good and kept it on minimal media-only
one transfer since receiving it-but it still is not working. Maybe just
need a new strain?

Any suggestions?


David Nunn
Department of Microbiology
University of Illinois
Urbana, IL 61801
(217) 333-6131

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Does anyone have a favorite mutator strain of E. coli or mutator plasmid
that they have used successfully for random mutagenesis?

 I'd prefer a strain or compatible plasmid in which I could mutagenize
sequences cloned in a broad host range plasmid (IncP1) and then be able to
mobilize directly out of the strain into Pseudomonas (EC strain must be
Tc-sensitive and auxotrophic) 

 I've got either a bum strain of EC LE30 (mutD) or it just isn't doing the
trick (mutagenesis-wise). I've been good and kept it on minimal media-only
one transfer since receiving it-but it still is not working. Maybe just
need a new strain?

Any suggestions?


David Nunn
Department of Microbiology
University of Illinois
Urbana, IL 61801
(217) 333-6131

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Nov 06 22:00:00 1993
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Subject: Re: mutator strain or plasmid
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In <David_Nunn-061193122507@tsikar1.life.uiuc.edu> David_Nunn@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (David Nunn) writes:

> I've got either a bum strain of EC LE30 (mutD) or it just isn't doing the
>trick (mutagenesis-wise). I've been good and kept it on minimal media-only
>one transfer since receiving it-but it still is not working. Maybe just
>need a new strain?

In minimal media, mutD can increase the background mutation frequency some
500-fold, but in rich media (i.e., LB) this increase is something like
50,000-fold. Are you doing your mutagenesis in rich media?

see Schaaper, 1988 (PNAS 85:8126); Schaaper and Radman (1989) EMBO J. 8:3511

Does this help? Hope so.

Mike
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Nov 06 22:00:00 1993
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From: jng@eis.calstate.edu (Joseph S. Ng)
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Subject: Elastin Search continues...
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Hi yall!

Anyone out there have anything current on elastin?  Yes?  Mail me, we'll
chat...No?  Mail me anyway, and we'll chat...

--
JoE			Hougang is an address
Ng, that is...		    Aukang is home
			  __________________

		     *** Forever In HIS hands ***
		### Through Him that constraineth me ###

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Posting on behalf of M. G. Smyth & P. Gunning    - D. Ricke

From:	SMTP%"gunnip@essex.ac.uk"  5-NOV-1993 08:02:52.46
Subj:	Assistance required
From: P Gunning <gunnip@essex.ac.uk>

Subject: Electroelution & Silver-Staining

Q1. Can anyone tell me how to electroelute a protein ( MW 146 kDa,) from a urea 
gel ( 8M?) I've tried the usual electroelution methods with no success.

Q2. The quickest silver staining method I know is the one by Heukeshoven and 
Dernick, 1985, electrophoresis 6:103.) I did try a rapid stain from Biorad but 
this method was not as good as the one by H&D. Can anyone recommend 
alternatives?

Please reply to : smyth@afrc.ac.uk, because I don't have access to USENET/BIONET

Thanks,

Martin G. Smyth

________________________________________________________________________________
Martin G. Smyth
AFRC Institute for Animal Health
Compton Laboratory
Berkshire RG16 0NN
UK

Ph: +44 635 578411 ext 541 ( Laboratory, Mon-Fri 0900 to 1700 GMT )
    +44 635 578888         ( Laboratory, outside above hours )
    +44 635 578137         ( Home )

e-mail: smyth@afrc.ac.uk

********************************************************************************

Many thanks,

Paul Gunning
Physics Department
University of Essex
Colchester CO4 3SQ

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From: tony@atp.biochem.su.oz.au (Anthony Weiss)
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Subject: Re: Elastin Search continues...
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In Article <CG5sEr.3AG@eis.calstate.edu>, jng@eis.calstate.edu (Joseph S.
Ng) wrote:
>Hi yall!
>
>Anyone out there have anything current on elastin?  Yes?  Mail me, we'll
>chat...No?  Mail me anyway, and we'll chat...
>
>--
>JoE                     Hougang is an address
>Ng, that is...              Aukang is home
>                          __________________
>
>                     *** Forever In HIS hands ***
>                ### Through Him that constraineth me ###


Joe

OK, I'll take a bite at this. A search of Medline shows:

    1  * elastin/                                                      *   569
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
       *                                                               *
******************* Ovid - Medline <1989 to November 1993> *********************


In other words, 569 references since 1989, just in the journals covered
by Medline. Perhaps your librarian can help you out.


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 09 22:00:00 1993
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From: SHAUN%JASON.DECNET@relay.the.net ("Shaun D. Black")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Odd results with Proline in peptide synethsis
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Dear All,
     We've recently gotten some seemingly bizarre results from synthesis of 
a peptide containing a number of prolyl residues.  Specifically, we've 
found that the chain spontaneously cleaves during synthesis, but the 
cleavage is not at a proline  :-?  .  Would some of you who might have seen 
effects somewhat like this e-mail us.  We'd appreciate some discussion.  
Thanks a bunch.  Cheers,  Shaun
  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 
  = Shaun D. Black, PhD     | Internet:  shaun%jason.decnet@relay.the.net = 
  = Dept. of Biochemistry   | University of Texas Health Center, at Tyler = 
  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Nov 10 22:00:00 1993
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Subject: Architectural protein drawings
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I am trying to track down a package that will draw protein ribbons with
arrows for beta sheet and cylinders for alpha helices. someone in my
lab mentioned "MOLSCRIPT" but apart from that I can't find anything to
give me the sort of pictures I want.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

....David Martin
dmartin@crc.ac.uk

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In article <fox-121193075728@132.236.171.92>, fox@penelope.bio.cornell.edu
(Kristin M. Fox) wrote:

> In article <2bthh9$mnj@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, dmartin@crc.ac.uk (David Martin
> x3175) wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I am trying to track down a package that will draw protein ribbons with
> > arrows for beta sheet and cylinders for alpha helices. someone in my
> > lab mentioned "MOLSCRIPT" but apart from that I can't find anything to
> > give me the sort of pictures I want.
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > ....David Martin
> > dmartin@crc.ac.uk
> 
> Are you looking for programs which produce printed outputs of
> ribbon drawings or programs which display such diagrams on
> computer graphics?
> 	MOLSCRIPT is a gook program to produce black and white
> outputs (color is available).
> Some other programs which make ribbon drawings
> MIDAS  ribbons and space filling diagrams and much more
> 	               for computer graphics
> INSIGHT  a commercial package for graphics, pretty expensive
> 
> If you are interested in any of these I can post the Email
> addresses where you can obtain them.
> 
> 					            Kristin

I have received several requests to post the ways of obtaining
ribbon drawing programs, so here is the info I have:

	MOLSCRIPT 
		Ref:  J. Appl. Cryst. (1991)  24, 946-950.
	Can be obtained from the author Dr. Per J. Kraulis at
		Dept. of Biochemistry
		University of Cambridge
		Tennis Court Road
		Cambridge  CB2 1 QW
		England

	MIDASPLUS(TM)
		Ref:  J. Mol. Graphics 6, 13-27 (1988).
	This was developed by the Computer Graphics Laboratory
	at UCSF, and is available from them at:
		Computer Graphics Laboratory
		School of Pharmacy
		University of California, San Francisco

	INSIGHT
		a commercial package available from
		BIOSYM Technologies, Inc.
		Eastern Regional Office
		4 Century Drive
		Parsippany, NJ  07054

	RIBBONS
		written by Mike Carson
		Email:  carson@gtx.cmc.uab.edu
			carson@uabcmc.bitnet

	Good luck.

	Kristin

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 11 22:00:00 1993
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From: unaltuna@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Mehmet Kemal Unaltuna)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Protein Comparison
Keywords: aminoacid composition
Message-ID: <1993Nov12.005349.19959@newstand.syr.edu>
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Hello! I would like to know whether there is a computer program which can 
make a comparison of an AMINOACID COMPOSITION (not sequence) of an unknown 
protein with other known proteins to see whether it matches to another 
protein. I would appreciate any kind of information regarding this. 
Please send your response to:

       unaltunn@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu

       Thanks, Nihan Unaltuna. 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 11 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!summers
From: summers@net.bio.net (Murray Summers)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Protein Comparison
Keywords: aminoacid composition
Message-ID: <Nov.12.06.48.12.1993.8358@net.bio.net>
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In article <1993Nov12.005349.19959@newstand.syr.edu> unaltuna@lynx.cat.syr.edu (Mehmet Kemal Unaltuna) writes:
>Hello! I would like to know whether there is a computer program which can 
>make a comparison of an AMINOACID COMPOSITION (not sequence) of an unknown 
>protein with other known proteins to see whether it matches to another 
>protein. I would appreciate any kind of information regarding this. 
>Please send your response to:
>
>       unaltunn@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu
>
>       Thanks, Nihan Unaltuna. 

IntelliGenetics' program, PC/GENE(R), will do exactly this analysis.
It is a DOS application that will run on any MS-DOS capable machine.
Please contact us for more information.

Murray R. Summers
Senior Sales Representative
IntelliGenetics, Inc.
700 E. El Camino Real, Suite 300
Mountain View, CA  94040

415-962-7300
800-876-9994
415-962-7302 (FAX)

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 11 22:00:00 1993
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From: fox@penelope.bio.cornell.edu (Kristin M. Fox)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Architectural protein drawings
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In article <2bthh9$mnj@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, dmartin@crc.ac.uk (David Martin
x3175) wrote:

> 
> I am trying to track down a package that will draw protein ribbons with
> arrows for beta sheet and cylinders for alpha helices. someone in my
> lab mentioned "MOLSCRIPT" but apart from that I can't find anything to
> give me the sort of pictures I want.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> ....David Martin
> dmartin@crc.ac.uk

Are you looking for programs which produce printed outputs of
ribbon drawings or programs which display such diagrams on
computer graphics?
	MOLSCRIPT is a gook program to produce black and white
outputs (color is available).
Some other programs which make ribbon drawings
MIDAS  ribbons and space filling diagrams and much more
	               for computer graphics
INSIGHT  a commercial package for graphics, pretty expensive

If you are interested in any of these I can post the Email
addresses where you can obtain them.

					            Kristin

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 12 22:00:00 1993
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From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Protein Comparison
Keywords: aminoacid composition
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Date: 13 Nov 93 10:15:06 GMT
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I have issued a stern warning to all IntelliGenetics employees that a
repeat of an incident like this will cost the offender their access to
the news network.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 12 22:00:00 1993
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From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Protein Comparison
Keywords: aminoacid composition
Message-ID: <Nov.13.01.02.19.1993.11517@net.bio.net>
Date: 13 Nov 93 09:02:20 GMT
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Murray,

Unfortunately I just had another incident from another commercial user
earlier today along similar lines.  PLEASE, commercial people should
NOT respond to general questions on the newsgroups about software.  If
a question is raised specifically about a commercial product then it
is O.K. to respond; otherwise, this forum is for discussion among
users, not sellers.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 12 22:00:00 1993
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From: wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu (Bill Nowatzke)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Temp. staining of SDS PAGE gels prior to renaturation??
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I have been trying to follow a R. Burgess paper in which enzymatic
activity was regained in a protein purification after crushing the
suspected protein band from the gel. The problem that I have been having
is the transient staing of the gel to identify the approx Mr prior to
cutting out the band. The original paper recommends ppt the SDS in the
gel with 0.2M KCl for 5 min and then destaining with water for up to one
hr. When I tried this the portion of the gel below the dye front became
very white, implying ppt, but the portion of the gel above the dye front
only became slight opaque and I could only see very faint bands of heavly
overloaded lanes. I was made aware of another transient staining tech
using a 0.3M copper soln which I tried on the same gel with poor results
(although this gel would not fully destaing from the KCl treatment and
that probably interfered). 
I would appreciate any advice/procedures that you may have successfully
used or heard about. Thanks in advance!

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 12 22:00:00 1993
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From: gerard@rigel.bmc.uu.se (Gerard Kleijwegt)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Architectural protein drawings
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In article <fox-121193151230@132.236.171.92>, fox@penelope.bio.cornell.edu (Kristin M. Fox) writes:
|> 	MOLSCRIPT 
|> 		Ref:  J. Appl. Cryst. (1991)  24, 946-950.
|> 	Can be obtained from the author Dr. Per J. Kraulis at
|> 		Dept. of Biochemistry
|> 		University of Cambridge

(1) Per Kraulis left England some time ago and is back in
    Sweden (I ate a pizza with him last night so I should know ;-)
    His current e-mail address is:
           pjk@oyster.csb.ki.se

(2) Addendum to the list of graphics programs:
    O (successor of FRODO; both written by Alwyn Jones);
    e-mail: alwyn@xray.bmc.uu.se

--Gerard

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Nov 13 22:00:00 1993
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From: mack@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Temp. staining of SDS PAGE gels prior to renaturation??
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In article <CGFpD7.ELs@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Bill Nowatzke <wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>I have been trying to follow a R. Burgess paper in which enzymatic
>activity was regained in a protein purification after crushing the
>suspected protein band from the gel. The problem that I have been having
>is the transient staing of the gel to identify the approx Mr prior to
>cutting out the band. The original paper recommends ppt the SDS in the
>gel with 0.2M KCl for 5 min and then destaining with water for up to one
>hr. When I tried this the portion of the gel below the dye front became
>very white, implying ppt, but the portion of the gel above the dye front
>only became slight opaque and I could only see very faint bands of heavly
>overloaded lanes. I was made aware of another transient staining tech
>using a 0.3M copper soln which I tried on the same gel with poor results
>(although this gel would not fully destaing from the KCl treatment and
>that probably interfered). 
>I would appreciate any advice/procedures that you may have successfully
>used or heard about. Thanks in advance!

I've heard of people soaking the gel in KOAc, where the protein becomes
opaque. Joe Mack mack@ncifcrf.gov

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Nov 13 22:00:00 1993
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From: bbaker@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Buck Dharma)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: How to get PDB entries via email?
Message-ID: <1993Nov13.235323.25849@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Date: 13 Nov 93 23:53:23 GMT
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Hello....

Can someone tell me how to get 3D coords from the BNL protein data bank
via email?  I know the address is pdb@chm.chm.bnl.gov, but thats about it.

Thanks...

	-brian

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 14 22:00:00 1993
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From: tony@atp.biochem.su.oz.au (Anthony Weiss)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Automatic pipettors: which filters?
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We want to get the right replacement filters for our handheld rechargeable
automatic pipettors. You know the ones: stick in a glass or disposable
plastic pipette for tissue culture work.

We have been told we need some fancy double membrane system to protect the
pump. 

What kind of filters do you use?


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 14 22:00:00 1993
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From: pfinerty@nyx10.cs.du.edu (fork)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Temp. staining of SDS PAGE gels prior to renaturation??
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In article <CGIx67.E0H@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
Hiroki Morizono <hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu> wrote:
>My memory is pretty shaggy, but I've used
>a dye for westerns which stained protein pink on nitrocellulose,
>then wash off. Sorry I can't remember the name, but it may be found
>in Maniatis or the Red Book.
>Hiroki

that pink dye is ponceau s.  you can also use fast green FCF on nitro. 
that's what i usu use (the fast green).

ciao,
-patrick
--
pjf -- biochem grad student
teach me to fish and i'll steal your pole

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 14 22:00:00 1993
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From: rpm@bach.wag.caltech.edu (Richard P. Muller)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: "Bead" force fields for protein simulations
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I am looking for references or a good review article on "bead" models
for protein simulations. By a bead model I mean one in which an entire
amino acid residue is represented in the force field as a single
particle. 

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

							Rick

P.S. For those of you who requested a summary of my recent posting on
the membrane protein crystallization method in Science, I am putting
together the summary now and will post shortly.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 14 22:00:00 1993
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From: phi@nrcbsa.bio.nrc.ca (Dr. Barry Phipps)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Architectural protein drawings
Message-ID: <1993Nov15.123829.24294@nrcnet0.nrc.ca>
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David Martin x3175 (dmartin@crc.ac.uk) wrote:

: I am trying to track down a package that will draw protein ribbons with
: arrows for beta sheet and cylinders for alpha helices. someone in my
: lab mentioned "MOLSCRIPT" but apart from that I can't find anything to
: give me the sort of pictures I want.

: Any help would be greatly appreciated.

: ....David Martin
: dmartin@crc.ac.uk

Hi David,

Another excellent program is SETOR written by Steve Evans at the Institute for
Biological Sciences, NRC, Canada.  I think it runs only on SGI/IRIX at the
moment (I could be wrong).  It is available to academic/government
organizations for free or a nominal fee.  Contact:

	Dr. Steve Evans
	Institute for Biological Sciences
	National Research Council
	M54, Montreal Road
	Ottawa, Ontario
	CANADA  K1A 0R6
	Phone   613-990-0858
	E-mail  elmo@nrcbsa.bio.nrc.ca

Barry Phipps

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help

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From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: Temp. staining of SDS PAGE gels prior to renaturation??
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Hiroki Morizono (hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu) wrote:
: My memory is pretty shaggy, but I've used
: a dye for westerns which stained protein pink on nitrocellulose,
: then wash off. Sorry I can't remember the name, but it may be found
: in Maniatis or the Red Book.

This is probably Ponceau Red. For other advice how to stain blots, see for
example "Gel electrophoresis of proteins: A practical approach". This
does not cover the topic of the subject line, however.

--Cornelius.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 14 22:00:00 1993
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From: hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu (Hiroki Morizono)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Temp. staining of SDS PAGE gels prior to renaturation??
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My memory is pretty shaggy, but I've used
a dye for westerns which stained protein pink on nitrocellulose,
then wash off. Sorry I can't remember the name, but it may be found
in Maniatis or the Red Book.
Hiroki

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
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From: mkennedy@chmeds.ac.nz (Martin Kennedy)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: LB or not LB?
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In article <2cb1oq$oho@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, JAB5@VAX.YORK.AC.UK writes:
> There seems to be 2 recipies for "LB" in the literature.
> My recollection is that it stood for Luria-Bertani Broth and 
> contained 5g NaCl per litre.
> Modern recipies have 10g NaCl per litre. Although in some
> applications, I'm sure it has little effect, I have found
> that for high expression levels of some proteins the high
> NaCl medium leads to insolubility problems. It has been
> Jim Brannigan

Just to add to the confusion, and to confirm that the problem has been around a
while,  an old but classic text lists two recipes on p433:  one is for LB
Medium with 10g NaCl/L, the other is for Luria Broth at 0.5g/L. The text is:

Miller, J.H. (1972)  Experiments in molecular genetics

I also remember reading in a similarly ancient text that there were "several"
recipes for LB; some of the confusion may have arisen from confusion of the
above recipes.

-- 
Cheers,

Martin

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From: rpm@bach.wag.caltech.edu (Richard P. Muller)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Summary -- Membrane protein crystallization technique
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Schafmeister et al. (Science 262:734 (1993)) recently published a
method for solubilizing membrane proteins by complexing them with
alpha helices with one flat hydrophobic side to interact with the
transmembrane protein.

Two weeks ago I posted a message to bionet.molbio.proteins asking for
comments on the procedure, and whether such a method was general
enough so that crystal structures of a large number of membrane
proteins would soon be available. What follows is a summary of the
responses I received. Thanks to everyone who took the time.

------------------------------
[This is from one of the authors of the paper...]

From schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu Wed Nov 10 07:20:49 1993
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 19:25:30 -0800
From: schaf@cgl.ucsf.edu
To: rpm@wag.caltech.edu
Subject: Re: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
References: <RPM.93Nov5154541@bach.wag.caltech.edu>

I think it's a "wait and see" kind of thing.

We are still developing the technique, we haven't been
able to set up any crystallization trials yet.

Currently we are trying to develop peptides that form
stable peptide/protein aggregates in order to set up crystal
trials.  We have a peptide that is considerably better
than the one described in the paper but it still isn't good enough,
meaning that at a peptide/BR ratio of 400:1 aggregation stops
and I get an essentially monomeric species with a molecular
weight of ~85kD (one BR ~20 peptides) but that is too much peptide
to concentrate down for crystallization trials.

.Chris.
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From krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de Wed Nov 10 07:20:38 1993
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1993 12:24:06 +0100
From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
To: rpm@wag.caltech.edu (Richard P. Muller)
Subject: Re: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins
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[stuff deleted]

What is IMHO funny with this technique is that the authors were not
able to maintain PhoE in solution. PhoE has a distinctivly different
fold from most transmembrane proteins because it forms a beta barrel
in the membrane.

Thanks for your help,
	Cornelius.

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When I responded to Dr. Krassel that perhaps the alpha helices could
not complex with the beta barrel, and that perhaps the Schafmeister
method would only work for alpha helical bundles, he responded...

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From krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de Wed Nov 10 07:20:42 1993
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1993 13:48:02 +0100
From: krasel@alf.biochem.mpg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
To: krasel@wag.caltech.edu, rpm@wag.caltech.edu
Subject: Re: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins

I am not very familiar with the theoretical foundations of protein interaction,
but it seems possible to me that PD1 can interact better with alpha helices
by forming part of an alpha-helical bundle (as it forms a bundle with itself
in the crystal structure). Since PD1 was designed to form a flat hydrophobic
surface this surprises me a bit: interhelical interactions are usually
accounted for by interactions between the bulges and grooves of helices.
As long as the structure of PD1 is not deposited one can probably only
speculate if there is also a bulge-groove interaction in the four helix
bundle.
A transmembrane beta barrel might possibly form another pattern of
grooves on its surface. One could control this by looking at the published
structure for OmpF which is said to resemble PhoE most. There is also
the structure for the porin from Rhodobacter capsulatus which forms a beta-
barrel as well.
Just speculating,
	Cornelius.

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From mack@ncifcrf.gov Mon Nov 15 07:58:47 1993
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 93 10:07:42 EST
From: mack@ncifcrf.gov
To: rpm@wag.caltech.edu
Subject: Re: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
In-Reply-To: <RPM.93Nov5154541@bach.wag.caltech.edu>
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Cc: 

Dear Pat,
	There's someone doing lipid layer 2-D crystallisation in Pat
Brown's lab at Stanford. They might be able to give you more info. 
DOn't have ph# or name sorry. Just call Pat.
	Joe Mack
	mack@ncifcrf.gov

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From SHAUN%JASON.DECNET@relay.the.net Mon Nov 15 07:59:16 1993
Date: 11 Nov 1993 19:04:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Shaun D. Black" <SHAUN%JASON.DECNET@relay.the.net>
Subject: Re: Crystallization of Membrane Proteins
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I just got my Science and read the article that you referred to.  It is a 
very interesting paper and has promise on a number of fronts, in my 
estimate.  Whether or not it pays off in the area of crystallization of 
membrane proteins is another question, but it is a real possibility.  As 
far as I know, this is the only investigation of its kind.  We ought to 
keep our eyes open for other studies that follow their ideas.  Cheers,
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I didn't include people who requested that I post a summary. Thanks to
everyone who took the time to respond.
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!RCF.MAYO.EDU!MORBECK
From: MORBECK@RCF.MAYO.EDU
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: hydropathically complementary sequence program?
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I just found a reference that gives information about a program called
AMINOMAT.  The program was designed to select an ideal complementary sequence
for a peptide based on hydropathy.  The paper was out of G. Fassina's lab in
Milan, Italy and appeared in Arch. Bioch. Biophys. in July, '92.  The paper
states that the program would be available upon request soon.  
	Can someone give me more info about this and how to obtain it?  Also,
are there any other programs available that do a similar thing?
	Thanks in advance.

Dean E. Morbeck
Department of Biochemistry
Mayo Clinic
Morbeck@Mayo.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
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Subject: LB or not LB?
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Dear colleagues,
There seems to be 2 recipies for "LB" in the literature.
My recollection is that it stood for Luria-Bertani Broth and 
contained 5g NaCl per litre.
Modern recipies have 10g NaCl per litre. Although in some
applications, I'm sure it has little effect, I have found
that for high expression levels of some proteins the high
NaCl medium leads to insolubility problems. It has been
such a problem to me that our lab now affectionately calls
my formulation OGB ("Old Git Broth") as it seems that only
us "elder" molbiologists remember it!!
Does anyone have a clue if I'm right and where the higher
NaCl recipie first came to being??
Thanks and Beware,

Jim Brannigan
Chemistry Dept
University of York
York YO1 5DD UK

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
Path: biosci!daresbury!zeta.bmc.uu.se!corax.udac.uu.se!sunic!pipex!uknet!gdt!bsspak
From: bsspak@midge.bath.ac.uk (P A Keller)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: How to get PDB entries via email?
Message-ID: <CGKyK0.KH6@midge.bath.ac.uk>
Date: 16 Nov 93 10:31:06 GMT
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In the referenced article, bbaker@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Buck Dharma) writes:
>
>Hello....
>
>Can someone tell me how to get 3D coords from the BNL protein data bank
>via email?  I know the address is pdb@chm.chm.bnl.gov, but thats about it.
>
>Thanks...
>
>	-brian
>

Funny you should ask this: I have been trying to find out the same for a
colleague, without much success. In principle, if you send the message

send info bbaker@news.weeg.uiowa.edu

to fileserv@pb1.pdb.bnl.gov,

you should get back all the information you need, but in practice this service
does not seem to be well maintained. It may have improved since I last tried
it, but I never succeeded in getting any information on the fileserver's
command set in this way, so it seemed fairly useless to me.

The simple answer is: use anonymous ftp or Gopher to pdb.pdb.bnl.gov in
preference to e-mail, if you can. If you must use e-mail, the best way is to
use an e-mail ftp server (i.e. you send an e-mail message to the server, which
does the anonymous ftp for you, and e-mails the results back). For information
on one such service, send the message:

help
quit

with a blank subject line to ftpmail@decwrl.del.com . In this way, you
can 'dir' the top-level directory at BNL, and find out what files contain
information about the contents of the data bank.

I can only assume that Brookhaven are having severe long-term problems with
their e-mail server - enquiries which I made over a month ago about this have
not been answered yet, and the response from the e-mail server is very slow,
with enquiries often disappearing completely. So far, I have not succeeded
in retrieving a single coordinate file by using Brookhaven's own fileserver.

Good luck,
Peter.

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Dept. of Biochemistry,       Fax.:   (+44/0)225 826449 
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
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From: pedraza@genes.icgeb.trieste.it (Alicia Pedraza)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: plasmid expressing chaperones
Keywords: chaperones
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Hi!

	Does anyone know from where I can get a plasmid expressing HSC 70
and / or HSP 70 chaperones (for eucaryotes) ?

	Thanks.

		Alicia

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Nov 15 22:00:00 1993
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From: SHAUN%JASON.DECNET@relay.the.net ("Shaun D. Black")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Summary: HPLC gel-filtration of proteins
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Dear Colleagues,

     My original post was:
>I have occasion to do a series of molecular weight determinations of
>proteins in the presence and absence of detergents.  Years ago I used
>ToyoSoda PW and SW silica-based columns; the PW bound all of my proteins,
>and the SW worked fairly well.  My question is: what is your experience
>with HPLC gel filtration columns for proteins presently?  What/which are
>best?  Protein binding?  Silica vs plastic polymers?  Effects of detergent?

     Replies received:

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Carl Weatherell (weathere@emr1.emr.ca)

I am presently examining secondary retention effects on ToyaSodaPW and
SW columns using factorial experimental design...  What I have found thus 
far W.R.T. the 2 stationary phases are, briefly:
     -efficiency of the PW phase is much larger than that of the SW phase
     -ion exclusion effects on the SW phase are larger than that of the PW
     -the PW phase is extremely hydrophobic... complete retention of all 
      denatured proteins is observed at 0.4M NaCl in 3.5mM SDS, pH=4 or 7
     -both phases adsorb SDS
     -a good eluent to achieve optimum resolution with no protein binding 
      to the stationary phase consists of 3.5mM SDS, pH=4 (50mM PO4 buffer
      with 0.1M NaCl)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Pier Carlo Montecucchi (100143.765@compuserve.com)

I have used TSK 3000 SW Spherogel column (600 x 7.5 mm I.D.) from Beckman.
Eluent: 0.01% acetic acid    Flow Rate: 1 ml/min    Detection: 220nm
Sometimes the data obtained by GP-HPLC should be treated with caution as a 
consequence (i) of aspecific interactions between the solutes and the 
stationary phase and (ii) of the effect of the mobile phase (pH value and 
salt concentration) on the tertiary structure of the molecules.  Using this 
system, I was able to determine the MW of a small molecule (MW 1000) and to 
separate this low molecular weight immunoregulin from salts.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ann C. Rice (acrice@gems.vcu.edu)

I am using the Phenomenex SEC 2000 HPLC gel filtration column presently and 
think it works well.  You can go down to pH 2.5 and it will take 6M 
guanidine and 0.05% SDS.  They make 3 sizes depending on the mwt range of 
the proteins you want to characterize.
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     Further investigation of various columns available netted:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer  Column       Dimensions  Phase Dia Pores  Avg N/m  Range   $
------------- ------------ ----------- --------- ------ -------- -----  ---
ToyoHaas      TSK3000SWXL  7.8x300 mm      5u     250A   25,800  -500K  750
   "          TSK3000SW    7.5x300 mm     10u     250A    8,500  -500K  700

Beckman       Ultrasphero- 7.5x300 mm      5u     245A   24,400  -700K  620
               gel 3000

Phenomenex    BioSep-SEC-  7.8x300 mm      5u     290A   21,200  -700K  595
               S3000

Rainin        Hydropore-   4.6x250 mm      5u     300A   11,100   -1M   700
               5-SEC
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
All the columns were prepared from silica; the Phenomenex and Rainin are 
"hydrophilic bonded silica", and the Beckman claims a "proprietary" silica 
type.  The TSK3000SWXL had the highest plate count and also resolved large 
proteins the best of all the columns surveyed.  Plates/meter were obtained 
by averaging the plates measured for 3-4 proteins in test chromatograms; 
proteins were typically thyroglobulin, ovalbumin, cytochrome c in each case.
Recoveries were compared between the TSK3000SWXL and BioSep-SEC-S3000 
columns; the TSK showed somewhat better recoveries, especially for large 
molecular weight proteins.

Hope this is helpful.  Best regards,  Shaun
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 16 22:00:00 1993
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From: rbernste@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU (RLB)
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Subject: How to say Voet?
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Dear ProtNetters:

Can anyone say for certain exactly how the authors of the biochemistry
text, Voet and Voet, pronounce their last name?

Regards, Rick Bernstein




From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 16 22:00:00 1993
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Subject: How to say Voet.
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Yes. I had Don Voet for a biological macromolecules/enzymology course.
You pronounce it with 2 syllables:  VO (rhymes with GO) and IT (Rhymes with
sh...), well you get the picture.  So  VO-IT (spelled Voet).

Rob
University of Pennsylvania
Dept. of Chemistry/Wistar Institute

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 16 22:00:00 1993
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From: seb1005@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk (Steven Brenner)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: pronounciation of Voet
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genekdw@EMORYU1.CC.EMORY.EDU ("Keith D. Wilkinson") writes:
>> Can anyone say for certain exactly how the authors of the biochemistry
>> text, Voet and Voet, pronounce their last name?
>> Regards, Rick Bernstein

>"Vote", as in everyone should.

One of my professors (who knows the Voets) always pronounced it with
two syllables: "VOH-eht".




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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Nov 16 22:00:00 1993
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From: markmano@bcvms.bc.edu
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Subject: Combinatorial regulation: an island?
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Can any one take me out of the following island:

I have got interested in the following "combinatorial-
regulation" :
Protein A as a homodimer has a certain function.
it can form a heterodimer with a homologous, but not identical
protein B, but A-B heterodimer has a different function.

I have started looking throu the "protein world map" using homology
as my compass, everytime I'll find a  protein that have the same 
mechanism I'll go to proteins homologous to it, but I'll also look
at homology to other domains of that protein.
I have so far to my surprise (and dissapointment??) found my-self in
an island. I have found many proteins that do that, but only from
four structural motifs (Leu-Zipper ; Adhesion molecule motifs (Ig and
FN3, and probably the end domains of Intermediate filaments) 
All  These are easy to connect in terms of finding
"evolutionary bridges" (proteins that have both domains are for my search an
evolutionary bridge).  can any one take me to an "island" further away - I 
would especialy be interested in an *enzyme* that have this type of regulation.

I personally believe that I am looking for the diamond where the light is, 
but there might be (should be) more of them where its dark. 
                    Thanks 
					Ofer.

                                        Ofer Markman
					Boston College, Merkert Chemistry Center
					Chestnut Hill MA 02167
E-mail:markman@bcchem.bc.edu
       markmano@bcvms.bc.edu
	

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In message <9311171331.AA16146@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>  writes:
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> Dear ProtNetters:
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> Can anyone say for certain exactly how the authors of the biochemistry
> text, Voet and Voet, pronounce their last name?
> 
> Regards, Rick Bernstein
> 
> 
> 
> ::    How to say Voet?


"Vote", as in everyone should.




From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Nov 17 22:00:00 1993
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From: pjdebles@vub.vub.ac.be (Pieter De Bleser)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: pI of TGF-beta
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Dear bionetters,


Does anyone know the pI of TGF-beta, or has a pointer to where I can
find this data?


Thanks,

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                    SWISS-PROT RELEASE 27.0 RELEASE NOTES


                               1. INTRODUCTION

   1.1  Evolution

   Release 27.0  of SWISS-PROT  contains 33329 sequence entries, comprising
   11'484'420 amino acids abstracted from 32314 references. This represents
   an increase  of 5.6% over release 26. The recent growth of the data bank
   is summarized below.

   Release    Date   Number of entries     Nb of amino acids

   3.0        11/86               4160               969 641
   4.0        04/87               4387             1 036 010
   5.0        09/87               5205             1 327 683
   6.0        01/88               6102             1 653 982
   7.0        04/88               6821             1 885 771
   8.0        08/88               7724             2 224 465
   9.0        11/88               8702             2 498 140
   10.0       03/89              10008             2 952 613
   11.0       07/89              10856             3 265 966
   12.0       10/89              12305             3 797 482
   13.0       01/90              13837             4 347 336
   14.0       04/90              15409             4 914 264
   15.0       08/90              16941             5 486 399
   16.0       11/90              18364             5 986 949
   17.0       02/91              20024             6 524 504
   18.0       05/91              20772             6 792 034
   19.0       08/91              21795             7 173 785
   20.0       11/91              22654             7 500 130
   21.0       03/92              23742             7 866 596
   22.0       05/92              25044             8 375 696
   23.0       08/92              26706             9 011 391
   24.0       12/92              28154             9 545 427
   25.0       04/93              29955            10 214 020
   26.0       07/93              31808            10 875 091
   27.0       10/93              33329            11 484 420

   1.2  Source of data

   Release 27.0  has been  updated using protein sequence data from release
   37.0 of  the PIR (Protein Identification Resource) protein data bank, as
   well as translation of nucleotide sequence data from release 36.0 of the
   EMBL Nucleotide Sequence Database.

   As an  indication to  the source  of the sequence data in the SWISS-PROT
   data bank we list here the statistics concerning the DR (Database cross-
   references) pointer lines:

   Entries with pointer(s) to only PIR entri(es):            4553
   Entries with pointer(s) to only EMBL entri(es):           4557
   Entries with pointer(s) to both EMBL and PIR entri(es):  23557
   Entries with no pointers lines:                            662




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      2. DESCRIPTION OF THE CHANGES MADE TO SWISS-PROT SINCE RELEASE 26


   2.1  Sequences and annotations

   About 1532 sequences have been added since release 26, the sequence data
   of 213  existing entries  has been  updated and  the annotations of 3000
   entries have  been revised.  In particular we have used reviews articles
   to update  the annotations  of  the  following  groups  or  families  of
   proteins:

   -  Aspartate and glutamate racemases
   -  Bacteriophage T4 proteins
   -  Band 3 anion proteins
   -  Beta amylases
   -  Cysteine synthases
   -  Deoxyribonuclease I
   -  Epenymins
   -  Epimorphin family
   -  GTP1/Obg family
   -  Fork head domain proteins
   -  G-linked receptors family 2
   -  Glutamate 5-kinase
   -  HIT family
   -  Lysyl oxidases
   -  mutT domain proteins
   -  Nitrilases / cyanide hydratase
   -  Peripherin / rom-1
   -  Phosphatidylinositol 3-kinases
   -  Pollen proteins Ole e I family
   -  Prokaryotic transglycosylases
   -  Protein prenyltransferases alpha subunit repeat
   -  Renal dipeptidases
   -  Trehalases



   2.2  A special emphasis on four "model" organisms

   We have selected four organisms that are the target of genome sequencing
   and/or mapping projects and for which we intend to:

   -  Be as  complete as  possible. All sequences available at a given time
      should be  immediatly included  in  SWISS-PROT.  This  also  includes
      sequence corrections and updates.
   -  Provide a high level of annotations.
   -  Cross-references to specialized database(s) that contain, among other
      data, some  genetic information  about the  genes that code for these
      proteins.
   -  Provide specific indices or documents.






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   The four organisms selected are:

   o  Caenorhabditis elegans (worm)
   o  Drosophila melanogaster (fly)
   o  Escherichia coli
   o  Saccharomyces cerevisiae (yeast)

   Such a  special effort  has been  going on  for more  than  a  year  for
   Escherichia coli  (thanks to  a very  fruitful  collaboration  with  Ken
   Rudd), it  has started  in this  release for  yeast: about 300 new yeast
   sequences were  entered; about  1500 entries  were reannotated and a new
   document (YEAST.TXT)  is provided  that list yeast entries in SWISS-PROT
   classified by  gene name  and synonym(s).  The next  release will target
   C.elegans thanks  to a collaboration with the group at the Sanger Genome
   Center in  Hinxton (UK).  The Drosophila  "project" should  start a  bit
   later.

   Organism          Database                 Index file
                     X-referenced             provided
   --------------    ----------------------   --------------
   C.elegans         WormPep                  Next release
   D.melanogaster    Flybase                  In preparation
   E.coli            EcoGene                  ECOLI.TXT
   S.cerevisiae      LISTA (in preparation)   YEAST.TXT


   2.3  The Expasy World-Wide Web server

   The recent months have seen a tremendous increase in the availability of
   software tools  and applications  that allow  to efficiently make use of
   the varied  resources which  are part  of the Internet network. Three of
   these  `Network   Information  Tools'  (NIR)  are  widely  used  by  the
   biological community:  WAIS (Wide  Area Information Server), Gopher and,
   more recently,  the World-Wide  Web (WWW). As many organizations provide
   WAIS or  Gopher servers  that offer access to SWISS-PROT and PROSITE, we
   felt that  there was  no need to set up ourselves such a service. But no
   such server was yet available for WWW.

   The World-Wide Web (WWW), which originated at CERN, is a powerful global
   information  system   merging  networked   information   retrieval   and
   hypertext. It  gives access, using hypertext links, to the documents and
   information contained  in all the existing WWW servers around the world,
   as well  as to  the data  obtainable through other information retrieval
   systems like WAIS, Gopher, X500, etc. To access a WWW server, one has to
   run on a local computer a client program (a WWW browser), which displays
   hypertext documents.  The user  can then either request a keyword search
   or jump  to another  document by following a hypertext link. WWW has the
   outstanding advantage  of extending  the hypertext  model to  the  whole
   world (by allowing hypertext jumps to documents anywhere on the internet
   network) and  by being  device and  user-interface independent (browsers
   exist for  a variety  of computers  and user-interfaces,  including Unix
   workstations  running  XWindows,  MacIntoshes  and  PCs  with  Microsoft
   Windows).




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   A WWW  server has  been set  up by  Ron Appel  from the  group of  Denis
   Hochstrasser at  the Faculty of Medicine of the University of  Geneva on
   the ExPASy  molecular biology  server. It allows access, using the user-
   friendly hypertext  model, to  the SWISS-PROT and SWISS-2DPAGE databases
   and, through  any SWISS-PROT  protein sequence entry, to other databases
   such as  EMBL, PROSITE,  REBASE, Flybase,  PDB and OMIM. Using a browser
   which is  able to  display images  one can  also remotely access 2D gels
   image data from SWISS-2DPAGE.

   A WWW  server can  be accessed  on  the  internet  through  its  Uniform
   Resource Locator  (URL), the addressing system defined by the WWW model.
   The URL for the ExPASy molecular biology WWW server is:

             http://expasy.hcuge.ch/

   or

             http://129.195.254.61/

   To access a WWW server, you need to run a browser (or client) program on
   your local computer. Browsers exist for a variety of machines and may be
   obtained by  anonymous ftp. Here is a selected list (taken from the CERN
   WWW server)  of currently  available browsers  and the  ftp address from
   which they can be retrieved:

   NCSA Mosaic    a very  flexible and  powerful browser  with a  graphical
                  user interface. Available for Unix boxes using X11/Motif;
                  for Mc  Intoshes and  for Microsoft  Windows.  FTP  site:
                  ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu (in /Web/xmosaic).

   lynx           a full screen browser for vt100s using full screen, arrow
                  keys, highlighting,  etc. FTP site: ftp2.cc.ukans.edu (in
                  /pub/lynx).

   www            a basic  line mode  browser giving access to WWW from any
                  dumb terminal. FTP site: info.cern.ch (in /pub/www).



   To access  all the  data available  from SWISS-2DPAGE,  the user's local
   computer needs  to run  an image  viewing program.  For most browsers on
   Unix workstations  the default  program is  xv, a  shareware application
   developed by John Bradley at University of Pennsylvania. The program can
   be found by ftp at export.lcs.mit.edu (in /contrib).

   For more  information on  the ExPASy  WWW server, please contact Dr. Ron
   Appel:

        Email: appel@cih.hcuge.ch
        Tel: +41-22-372 62 64
        Fax: +41-22-372 61 98






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   2.4  Changes in the DR line

   We have  added cross-references  to the  WormPep collection of candidate
   protein translations  from the  Caenorhabditis elegans genome sequencing
   project (see  section 2.2  of these  notes). These  cross-references are
   present in the DR lines:

   Data bank identifier: WORMPEP
   Primary identifier  : Cosmid-derived name  given to that protein by the
                         C.elegans genome sequencing project.  In  general
                         this name will not change.
   Secondary identifier: Number  attributed   by  the   C.elegans   genome
                         sequencing project  to that protein.  This number
                         will change when the sequence is updated.
   Example             : DR   WORMPEP; ZK637.7; CE00437.


   2.5  Weekly updates of SWISS-PROT

   Since release 24, we provide weekly updates of SWISS-PROT. These updates
   are available by anonymous FTP. Three files are updated every week:

   new_seq.dat    Contains all the new entries since the last full release.
   upd_seq.dat    Contains the entries for which the sequence data has been
                  updated since the last release.
   upd_ann.dat    Contains the  entries for  which one  or more  annotation
                  fields have been updated since  the last release.

   Currently these  files are  available on  the  following  anonymous  ftp
   servers:

   Organism       EMBL ftp server
   Address        ftp.embl-heidelberg.de (or 192.54.41.33)
   Directory      /pub/databases/swissprot/new

   Organism       ExPASy (Geneva University Expert Protein Analysis System)
   Address        expasy.hcuge.ch  (or 129.195.254.61)
   Directory      /databases/swiss-prot/updates

   Organism       National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI)
   Address        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (or 130.14.20.1)
   Directory      /repository/swiss-prot/updates

   !! Important notes !!!

   Although we  try to  follow a  regular schedule,  we do  not promise  to
   update these  files every  week. In some cases two weeks will elapse in-
   between two updates.

   Due to  the current  mechanism used  to build a release the entries that
   are provided in these updates are not guaranteed to be error free. Also,
   for the  same reason,  new  entries  do  not  contain  an  OC  (Organism
   Classification) line.




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                            3. ENZYME AND PROSITE

   3.1  The ENZYME data bank

   Release 14.0  of the  ENZYME data bank is distributed with release 27 of
   SWISS-PROT. ENZYME  release 14.0  contains information  relative to 3489
   enzymes.



   3.2  The PROSITE data bank

   3.2.1  What's new in release 11.0

   Release 11.0  of the PROSITE data bank is distributed with release 27 of
   SWISS-PROT.  Release  11.0  contains  715  documentation  chapters  that
   describes 926  different patterns.  Since  the  last  major  release  of
   PROSITE (release  10.00 of  December 1992),  80 new  chapters have  been
   added and  306 chapters  have been  updated. The new chapters are listed
   below:

   -  Protein splicing signature
   -  CAP-Gly domain signature
   -  MAM domain signature
   -  Prokaryotic transcription elongation factors signatures
   -  MCM2/3/5 family signature
   -  XPGC protein signatures
   -  Bacterial regulatory proteins, arsR family signature
   -  Bacterial regulatory proteins, deoR family signature
   -  Dps protein family signatures
   -  Ribosomal protein L27 signature
   -  Ribosomal protein L36 signature
   -  mutT domain signature
   -  3-hydroxyisobutyrate dehydrogenase signature
   -  Dihydroorotate dehydrogenase signatures
   -  Alanine dehydrogenase and pyridine nucleotide transhydrogenase
   -  Lysyl oxidase putative copper-binding region signature
   -  6-hydroxy-D-nicotine oxidase and reticuline oxidase FAD-binding
   -  Cytochrome c oxidase subunit VB, zinc binding region signature
   -  Indoleamine 2,3-dioxygenase signatures
   -  Glycine radical signature
   -  Uroporphyrin-III C-methyltransferase signatures
   -  Protein prenyltransferases alpha subunit repeat signature
   -  Phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase signatures
   -  Glutamate 5-kinase signature
   -  Guanylate kinase signature
   -  ADP-glucose pyrophosphorylase signatures
   -  2'-5'-oligoadenylate synthetases signatures
   -  Deoxyribonuclease I signatures
   -  Glucoamylase active site region signature





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   -  Trehalase signatures
   -  Glycosyl hydrolases family 8 signature
   -  Prokaryotic transglycosylases signature
   -  Renal dipeptidase active site
   -  Serine proteases, ompT family signatures
   -  Proteasome B-type subunits signature
   -  Signal peptidases II signature
   -  Cytidine & deoxycytidylate deaminases zinc-binding region signature
   -  GTP cyclohydrolase I signatures
   -  Nitrilases / cyanide hydratase signatures
   -  Orn/DAP/Arg decarboxylases family 2 signatures
   -  Uroporphyrinogen decarboxylase signatures
   -  Alpha-isopropylmalate and homocitrate synthases signatures
   -  Beta-eliminating lyases pyridoxal-phosphate attachment site
   -  Dihydroxy-acid and 6-phosphogluconate dehydratases signatures
   -  Prephenate dehydratase signatures
   -  Cysteine synthase pyridoxal-phosphate attachment site
   -  Cys/Met metabolism enzymes pyridoxal-phosphate attachment site
   -  Cytochrome c and c1 heme lyases signatures
   -  Aspartate and glutamate racemases signatures
   -  Mandelate racemase / muconate lactonizing enzyme family signatures
   -  Phosphoglucomutase and phosphomannomutase phosphoserine signature
   -  D-alanine--D-alanine ligase signatures
   -  Carbamoyl-phosphate synthase subdomain signatures
   -  Nickel-dependent hydrogenases b-type cytochrome subunit signatures
   -  Adrenodoxin family, iron-sulfur binding region signature
   -  ABC-2 type transport system integral membrane proteins signature
   -  Acyl-CoA-binding protein signature
   -  LacY family proton/sugar symporters signatures
   -  Sodium:alanine symporter family signature
   -  Sodium:galactoside symporter family signature
   -  Osteopontin signature
   -  Peripherin / rom-1 signature
   -  Interleukins -4 and -13 signature
   -  Erythropoietin signature
   -  Galanin signature
   -  Chaperonins clpA/B signatures
   -  Bacterial type II secretion system protein D signature
   -  Bacterial type II secretion system protein F signature
   -  MARCKS family signatures
   -  Elongation factor 1 beta/beta'/delta chain signatures
   -  Eukaryotic initiation factor 4E signature
   -  Calsequestrin signatures
   -  GTP1/OBG family signature
   -  HIT family signature
   -  Ependymins signatures
   -  Epimorphin family signature
   -  Yeast PIR proteins repeats signature
   -  Oleosins signature
   -  Pollen proteins Ole e I family signature
   -  Hypothetical YCR59c/yigZ family signature





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   3.2.2  Future developments

   Starting with  the next  major releases (12.0 of May 1994), PROSITE will
   be extended  to include  weight matrices (also known as profiles). There
   are a  number of  protein families  as well  as functional or structural
   domains that  cannot be  detected using  patterns due  to their  extreme
   sequence divergence.  Typical examples  of important  functional domains
   which are  weakly conserved  are the immunoglobulin domains, the SH2 and
   SH3 domains,  or the  fibronectin type III domain. In such domains there
   are only  a few sequence positions which are well conserved. Any attempt
   of building  a consensus  pattern for  such regions  will either fail to
   pick up  a significant  proportion of the protein sequences that contain
   such region  (false negative)  or will pick up too many proteins that do
   not contain  the region  (false positive). The use of technique based on
   weight matrices  or profiles  allows the  detection of  such proteins or
   domains. Dr.  Philipp  Bucher  at  ISREC  in  Lausanne  and  myself  are
   collaborating to  include such  methods into PROSITE. This collaboration
   also includes  other participants such as Roland Luethy (AMGEN), Michael
   Gribskov (SDSC)  and Steve  Altschul (NCBI).  If you  are interested  in
   participating in this project please contact Philipp Bucher at:

                          pbucher@isrec-sun1.unil.ch

   We will  include in  the next  release note of SWISS-PROT (Release 28 of
   February 1994)  a brief  description of the PROSITE syntax extension for
   profiles. The full description will be available in the User's Manual of
   release 11.1 of PROSITE (February 1994).

   Important notice  for software  developers: the  integration of profiles
   into PROSITE  will not  "break" the current format. The profiles entries
   in the  PROFILE.DAT file  will be  tagged with the token "MATRIX" on the
   "ID" line  (currently, only  "PATTERN" and "RULE" are used as tokens); a
   new line-type "MA" will be used in these entries to store all the weight
   matrices specific  parameters. The  format of  the PROFILE.DOC file will
   not be changed.



                            4. WE NEED YOUR HELP !

   We welcome  feedback from our users. We would especially appreciate that
   you notify  us if  you find  that sequences  belonging to  your field of
   expertise are  missing from  the data  bank. We  also would  like to  be
   notified about  annotations to be updated, if, for example, the function
   of a protein has been clarified or if new post-translational information
   has become available.










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                         APPENDIX A: SOME STATISTICS



   A.1  Amino acid composition

        A.1.1  Composition in percent for the complete data bank

   Ala (A) 7.66   Gln (Q) 4.02   Leu (L) 9.20   Ser (S) 7.09
   Arg (R) 5.23   Glu (E) 6.26   Lys (K) 5.81   Thr (T) 5.83
   Asn (N) 4.45   Gly (G) 7.04   Met (M) 2.35   Trp (W) 1.30
   Asp (D) 5.27   His (H) 2.25   Phe (F) 3.99   Tyr (Y) 3.22
   Cys (C) 1.78   Ile (I) 5.55   Pro (P) 5.03   Val (V) 6.52

   Asx (B) 0.005  Glx (Z) 0.005  Xaa (X) 0.02


        A.1.2  Classification of the amino acids by their frequency

   Leu, Ala, Ser, Gly, Val, Glu, Thr, Lys, Ile, Asp, Arg, Pro, Asn, Gln,
   Phe, Tyr, Met, His, Cys, Trp



   A.2  Repartition of the sequences by their organism of origin

   Total number of species represented in this release of SWISS-PROT: 4143

        A.2.1 Table of the frequency of occurrence of species

        Species represented 1x: 1879
                            2x:  685
                            3x:  387
                            4x:  247
                            5x:  186
                            6x:  143
                            7x:   88
                            8x:   78
                            9x:   76
                           10x:   48
                       11- 20x:  151
                       21- 50x:  103
                       51-100x:   33
                         >100x:   39













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        A.2.2  Table of the most represented species


    Number   Frequency          Species
         1        2530          Human
         2        2376          Escherichia coli
         5        1563          Baker's yeast (Saccharomyces cerevisiae)
         4        1496          Mouse
         5        1385          Rat
         6         654          Bovine
         7         579          Fruit fly (Drosophila melanogaster)
         8         495          Bacillus subtilis
         9         489          Chicken
        10         369          African clawed frog (Xenopus laevis)
        11         341          Salmonella typhimurium
                   341          Rabbit
        13         311          Pig
        14         251          Vaccinia virus (strain Copenhagen)
        15         224          Maize
        16         200          Bacteriophage T4
        17         193          Human cytomegalovirus (strain AD169)
        18         190          Arabidopsis thaliana (Mouse-ear cress)
        19         183          Vaccinia virus (strain WR)
        20         180          Rice
        21         166          Pseudomonas aeruginosa
                   166          Tobacco
        23         164          Pea
        24         162          Wheat
        25         155          Caenorhabditis elegans
                   155          Fission yeast (Schizosaccharomyces pombe)
        27         138          Barley
        28         133          Soybean
        29         131          Slime mold (Dictyostelium discoideum)
        30         130          Spinach
        31         129          Staphylococcus aureus
        32         127          Sheep
        33         119          Marchantia polymorpha (Liverwort)
        34         118          Rhodobacter capsulatus
        35         117          Dog
        36         114          Pseudomonas putida
        37         111          Neurospora crassa
        38         110          Klebsiella pneumoniae
        39         104          Bacillus stearothermophilus












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   A.3  Repartition of the sequences by size



               From   To  Number             From   To   Number
                  1-  50    1966             1001-1100      321
                 51- 100    3345             1101-1200      199
                101- 150    4723             1201-1300      156
                151- 200    3191             1301-1400       97
                201- 250    2804             1401-1500       86
                251- 300    2469             1501-1600       44
                301- 350    2289             1601-1700       46
                351- 400    2377             1701-1800       37
                401- 450    1780             1801-1900       43
                451- 500    1933             1901-2000       31
                501- 550    1325             2001-2100       13
                551- 600     922             2101-2200       40
                601- 650     645             2201-2300       48
                651- 700     488             2301-2400       16
                701- 750     475             2401-2500       18
                751- 800     368             >2500          100
                801- 850     270
                851- 900     293
                901- 950     182
                951-1000     189




   Currently the ten largest sequences are:


                            RYNR_RABIT  5037 a.a.
                            RYNR_HUMAN  5032 a.a.
                            APB_HUMAN   4563 a.a.
                            APOA_HUMAN  4548 a.a.
                            RRPA_CVMJH  4488 a.a.
                            DYHC_TRIGR  4466 a.a.
                            GRSB_BACBR  4451 a.a.
                            PLEC_RAT    4140 a.a.
                            POLG_BVDV   3988 a.a.
                            VGF1_IBVB   3951 a.a.













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                         APPENDIX B: ON-LINE EXPERTS



   B.1  List of on-line experts for PROSITE and SWISS-PROT


Field of expertise            Name               Email address
---------------------------   ------------------ ----------------------------
Alcohol dehydrogenases        Joernvall H.       hans.jornvall@k1m.ki.se
                              Persson B.         bengt.persson@embl-
                                                 heidelberg.de
Aldehyde dehydrogenases       Joernvall H.       hans.jornvall@k1m.ki.se
                              Persson B.         bengt.persson@embl-
                                                 heidelberg.de
Alpha-crystallins/HSP-20      Leunissen J.A.M.   jackl@caos.caos.kun.nl
                              de Jong W.         u629000@hnykun11.bitnet
Alpha-2-macroglobulins        Van Leuven F.      fred@blekul13.bitnet
AA-tRNA synthetases class II  Leberman R.        leberman@frembl51.bitnet
Apolipoproteins               Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
AraC family HTH proteins      Ramos J.L.         jlramos@cnbvx3.cnb.uam.es
Arrestins                     Kolakowski L.F.Jr. kolakowski@helix.mgh.
                                                 harvard.edu
Asparaginase / glutaminase    Gribskov M.        gribskov@sdsc.edu
ATP synthase c subunit        Recipon H.         recipon@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Band 4.1 family proteins      Rees J.            jrees@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Beta-lactamases               Brannigan J.       jab5@vaxa.york.ac.uk
Beta-transducin family        Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
C-type lectin domain          Drickamer K.       drick@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.
                                                 edu
Chalcone/stilbene synthases   Schroeder J.       raf@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de
Chaperonins cpn10/cpn60       Georgopoulos C.    georgopo@cmu.unige.ch
Chaperonins TCP1 family       Willison K.R.      willison@icr.ac.uk
Chitinases                    Henrissat B.       bernie@cermav.grenet.fr
Clusterin                     Peitsch M.C.       peitsch@ulbio1.unil.ch
Cold shock domain             Landsman D.        landsman@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
CTF/NF-I                      Mermod N.          nmermod@ulys.unil.ch
                              Gronostajski R.    gronosr@ccsmtp.ccf.org
Cytochromes P450              Holsztynska E.J.   ela@netcom.uucp
                                                 netcom!ela@apple.com
DEAD-box helicases            Linder P.          linder@urz.unibas.ch
Deoxyribonuclease I           Peitsch M.C.       peitsch@ulbio1.unil.ch
dnaJ family                   Kelley W.          kelley@cmu.unige.ch
EF-hand calcium-binding       Cox J.A.           cox@sc2a.unige.ch
                              Kretsinger R.H.    rhk5i@virginia.bitnet
Elongation factor 1           Amons R.           wmbamons@rulgl.leidenuniv.nl
Enoyl-CoA hydratase           Hofmann K.O.       khofmann@biomed.biolan.uni-
                                                 koeln.de
Fatty acid desaturases        Piffanelli P.      piffanelli@jii.afrc.ac.uk
fruR/lacI family HTH proteins Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
GATA-type zinc-fingers        Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
GDT/GTP dissociation stimul.  Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov





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GltP family of transporters   Hofmann K.O.       khofmann@biomed.biolan.uni-
                                                 koeln.de
Glucanases                    Henrissat B.       bernie@cermav.grenet.fr
                              Beguin P.          phycel@pasteur.bitnet
Glutamine synthetase          Tateno Y.          ytateno@genes.nig.ac.jp
G-protein coupled receptors   Chollet A.         arc3029@ggr.co.uk
                              Attwood T.K.       bph6tka@biovax.leeds.ac.uk
                              Kolakowski L.F.Jr. kolakowski@helix.mgh.
                                                 harvard.edu
GTPase-activating proteins    Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
HIT family                    Seraphin B.        seraphin@embl-heidelberg.de
HMG1/2 and HMG-14/17          Landsman D.        landsman@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Inorganic pyrophosphatases    Kolakowski L.F.Jr. kolakowski@helix.mgh.
                                                 harvard.edu
Integrases                    Roy P.H.           2020000@saphir.ulaval.ca
Kringle domain                Ikeo K.            kikeo@genes.nig.ac.jp
Lipocalins                    Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
                              Peitsch M.C.       peitsch@ulbio1.unil.ch
lysR family HTH proteins      Henikoff S.        henikoff@sparky.fhcrc.org
MAC components / perforin     Peitsch M.C.       peitsch@ulbio1.unil.ch
Malic enzymes                 Glynias M.         mglynias@ncsa.uiuc.edu
MAM domain                    Bork P.            bork@embl-heidelberg.de
MIP family proteins           Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
Myelin proteolipid protein    Hofmann K.O.       khofmann@biomed.biolan.uni-
                                                 koeln.de
Pancreatic trypsin inhibitor  Ikeo K.            kikeo@genes.nig.ac.jp
PEP requiring enzymes         Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
pfkB carbohydrate kinases     Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
Phytochromes                  Partis M.D.        partis@gcri.afrc.ac.uk
Plant viruses icosahedral     Koonin E.V.        koonin@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
capsid proteins
Protein kinases               Hanks S.           hanks@vuctrvax.bitnet
                              Hunter T.          hunter@salk-sc2.sdsc.edu
PTS proteins                  Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
Restriction-modification      Bickle T.          bickle@urz.unibas.ch
            enzymes           Roberts R.J.       roberts@neb.com
Ribosomal protein S15         Ellis S.R.         srelli01@ulkyvm.bitnet
Ring-cleavage dioxygenases    Harayama S.        sharayam@ddbj.nig.ac.jp
Signal sequence peptidases    von Heijne G.      gvh@csb.ki.se
                              Dalbey R.E.        rdalbey@magnus.acs.ohio-
                                                 state.edu
Sodium symporters             Reizer J.          jreizer@ucsd.edu
Subtilases                    Brannigan J.       jab5@vaxa.york.ac.uk
                              Siezen R.J.        nizo@caos.caos.kun.nl
Thiol proteases               Turk B.            turk@ijs.ac.mail.yu
Thiol proteases inhibitors    Turk B.            turk@ijs.ac.mail.yu
TNF family                    Jongeneel C.V.     vjongene@isrecmail.unil.ch
TPR repeats                   Boguski M.S.       boguski@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Transit peptides              von Heijne G.      gvh@csb.ki.se
Type-II membrane antigens     Levy S.            levy@cellbio.stanford.edu
Uracil-DNA glycosylase        Aasland R.         aasland@embl-heidelberg.de





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Vitamin K-depend. Gla domain  Price P.A.         pprice@ucsd.edu
XPGC protein                  Clarkson S.G.      clarkson@cmu.unige.ch
Xylose isomerase              Jenkins J.         jenkins@frira.afrc.ac.uk
WAP-type domain               Claverie J.-M.     jmc@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
ZP domain                     Bork P.            bork@embl-heidelberg.de


African swine fever virus     Yanez R.J.         ryanez@cbm2.uam.es
Bacteriophage P4              Halling C.         chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Caenorhabditis elegans	      Sonnhammer E.      esr@mrc-molecular.biology.
                                                 cam.ac.uk
Chloroplast encoded proteins  Hallick R.B.       hallick@arizona.edu
Drosophila                    Ashburner M.       ma11@phx.cam.ac.uk
Escherichia coli              Rudd K.            rudd@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Salmonella typhimurium        Rudd K.            rudd@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Snakes                        Stocklin R.        stocklin@cmu.unige.ch




   B.2  Requirements to fulfill to become an on-line expert

   An expert  should be  a scientist  working with  specific famili(es)  of
   proteins (or specific domains) and who would:

   a) Review the  protein sequences in SWISS-PROT and the patterns/matrices
      in PROSITE relevant to their field of research.
   b) Agree to  be contacted  by people  that have obtained new sequence(s)
      which seem to belong to "their" familie(s) of proteins.
   c) Have access  to electronic  mail and be willing to use it to send and
      receive data.

   If you are willing to be part of this scheme please contact Amos Bairoch
   at the following electronic mail address:

                             bairoch@cmu.unige.ch




















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           APPENDIX C: RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN BIOMOLECULAR DATABASES

   The current  status of the relationships (cross-references) between some
   biomolecular databases is shown in the following schematic:


                                                       **********************
                        ***********************        * EPD [Euk. Promot.] *
                        *  EMBL Nucleotide    * <----> **********************
                        *  Sequence Data      *
******************      *  Library            *        **********************
* FLYBASE        * <--> *********************** <----- * ECD [E. coli map]  *
* [Drosophila    *                ^         ^          **********************
* genomic d.b.]  * <------+       |         |
******************        |       |         +--------- **********************
                          |       |                    * TFD [Trans. fact.] *
                          |       |         +--------> **********************
                          |       |         |  
******************        v       v         v          **********************
* REBASE         *      ***********************        * ENZYME [Nomencl.]  *
* [Restriction   * <--- *  SWISS-PROT         * <----- **********************
*  enzymes]      *      *  Protein Sequence   *            |
******************      *  Data Bank          *            v
                        ***********************        **********************
******************       ^  ^  |  |  ^   ^  |          * OMIM   [Diseases]  *
* EcoGene/EcoSeq *       |  |  |  |  |   |  +--------> **********************
* [E. coli]      * <-----+  |  |  |  |   |
******************          |  |  |  |   +-----------> **********************
                            |  |  |  |                 * ECO2DBASE     [2D] *
                            |  |  |  |                 **********************
******************          |  |  |  |
* PROSITE        * <--------+  |  |  +---------------> **********************
* [Patterns]     *             |  |                    * SWISS-2DPAGE  [2D] *
******************             |  +---------------+    **********************
             |                 v                  |                          
             |          ***********************   |    **********************
             +--------> * PDB [3D structures] *   +--> * Aarhus/Ghent  [2D] *
                        ***********************        **********************


















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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Nov 17 22:00:00 1993
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From: ortnerm@wst.edvz.sbg.ac.at (Maria Ortner)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Release 1.0 of PROSA available
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                 PROSA - PROtein Structure Analysis
                 ==================================

	          Version 1.0 for SGI Iris/Indigo

       Copyright (C) by CAME - Center of Applied Molecular Engineering 

  PROSA analyses the energy distribution in proteins. If you are a protein
  X-ray crystallographer, an NMR-spectroscopist or (beware) a protein
  structure predictor this program may be of interest to you.
  
  Suppose that you are confronted with a NATIVE protein structure (i.e. a
  protein in its natural functioning state). The structure may have been
  determined by X-ray, NMR, molecular modelling or it may be a structure
  which was designed to fool specialists in protein structure theory.
  How could you tell whether the structure is correct or incorrect? Note
  that even experimentalists are human beings and prone to errors. All of
  them are honest and trustworthy people. But if you base your experiments
  on published structures you are better off if you check the structures
  as far as possible before you start wasting your time. If you are going to
  use the results of protein modelling or prediction then you are in a bad
  shape anyway.
  
  PROSA is a programm which analyses the energy distribution in protein
  structures as a function of sequence position. Native structures have
  balanced energy distributions - faulty structures have high energy
  peaks or are strained all over the place. So much for the theory. In
  case you are really interested please consult the references at the end
  of the manual. Just look at a few native graphs and you get the point.
  
  In interpreting the results produced by PROSA keep in mind the following:

                    BE SUSPICIOUS OF EXPERIMENTAL DATA 
                    BUT NEVER TRUST THEORETICAL METHODS  


  DISTRIBUTION
  ============

  PROSA runs on Silicon Graphics Workstations with IRIX 4.0.1 or higher.

  You can get the latest version of the program by anonymous ftp from 

	Gundi.came.sbg.ac.at (141.201.27.11) , PROSA/

  Please get and read the README file.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 18 22:00:00 1993
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From: mack@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: pI of TGF-beta
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In article <3559@rc1.vub.ac.be> pjdebles@vub.vub.ac.be (Pieter De Bleser) writes:
>Dear bionetters,
>
>
>Does anyone know the pI of TGF-beta, or has a pointer to where I can
>find this data?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>--
>____________________________________________________________________________
>Pieter De Bleser                                           
>Laboratory for Cell Biology and Histology,
>Free University of Brussels, 
>Laarbeeklaan 103, B -1090 Brussels, Belgium
>Phone:+32-2-4774407; Fax:+32-2-4774000; Email: pjdebles@cyto.vub.ac.be
>____________________________________________________________________________
Find a place that has the GCG set of programs and databases. Get an account.
Findout about all the neat programs thay have for protein peopple and molecular
biologists. Use the program "ISOELECTRIC".
Joseph Mack
mack@ncifcrf.gov

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Nov 18 22:00:00 1993
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From: medtjm@bimcore.emory.edu (T. J. Murphy)
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Subject: WANTED: Used UV Detector for HPLC
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I would like to buy an experienced optical detector for an Isco HPLC system.  The device
should have 200-220 nm (peptide bond) capability.  Would prefer not to pay $2000 
for a new one. Please respond by e-mail.  Thanks in advance.

---


TJ Murphy
Asst. Professor	      
Dept of Pharmacology
Emory University School of Medicine   	    

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 19 22:00:00 1993
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From: jv4s@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Beavis)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: pI of TGF-beta
Message-ID: <CGt363.LsE@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: 20 Nov 93 19:51:39 GMT
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I was told it was 9.5 ( I do not know if it differs from beta1 to beta2)
TGF alpha is around 6.5.

Plenty of info in the Medline database.

Jay

--
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Nov 19 22:00:00 1993
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From: robison1@husc10.harvard.edu (Keith Robison)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: pI of TGF-beta
Message-ID: <robison1.753809723@husc10>
Date: 20 Nov 93 15:35:23 GMT
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mack@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack) writes:

>In article <3559@rc1.vub.ac.be> pjdebles@vub.vub.ac.be (Pieter De Bleser) writes:
>>Dear bionetters,
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know the pI of TGF-beta, or has a pointer to where I can
>>find this data?
>>

>>____________________________________________________________________________
>Find a place that has the GCG set of programs and databases. Get an account.
>Findout about all the neat programs thay have for protein peopple and molecular
>biologists. Use the program "ISOELECTRIC".

Ahh, but did the original poster want the PREDICTED pI or the ACTUAL pI?
Particularly with the multitude of post-translational modifications in
mammalian cells (and especially since many of these involve derivatizing
charged amino acid side chains or adding charged moieties), it is an
important distinction.

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

robison@biosun.harvard.edu 

P.S.  Taking into account both the N-terminal peptide processing and
      the observed blockage of the mature protein's N-terminus to 
      Edman degredation (and assuming the blocking group is non-charged),
      the pI of the major isoform of TGF-beta (Human) is predicted to
      be 4.75 using the 'iso' program from my MOLBIO++ library.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: rose@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Kermit Rose)
Newsgroups: bionet.neuroscience,bionet.molbio.proteins,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molbio.hiv,bionet.drosophila,bionet.general
Subject: Re: I NEED HELP
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bmcnulty@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (bob) writes:
> 
> 
>      I am the manager of a stockroom/lab facility which is responsible for
> servicing the needs (chemical, reagents, and equipment) of a Biology
> department in a small university (14 - 16000 students).  The facility I
> manage supplies these items for over 80 laboratory class sections per week
> with only 3 personnel while at the same time managing a service/checkout
> window which is open for 6 hours each day (9:00am 'til 3:00pm). The
> department has 20 PHD faculty and several part time MS instructors or TAs.
> 
> I seem to have found myself in the middle of a rather large debate with one
> faculty member who insists that he/she have unlimited access (a key and
> pass code) to the area I manage (which is currently under alarm and houses
> well over $1,000,000 worth of inventory) because she/he needs supplies to
> do unfunded research at hours other than those when the facility I manage
> is open.  The other faculty are either supported by grants or are not
> actively involved in research.
> 
> 
> 
>      IN AN EFFORT TO SOLVE THIS DILEMMA I NEED YOUR HELP!!!
> 
>      I SEEK ONLY DATA.


I would predict that this would not solve the dilemma.  Did you propose to
the researcher that you pull the items needed with one day's notice.  If
the need is really for research, it would be only a minor handicap to have
to plan the materials to be used and call with a list.

On the other hand, if the researcher is addicted to some medicine and does
not wish to admit it, you have somewhat of a problem here.  I suggest that
you talk to the researcher again and try to come to a procedure that will
solve both the needs of the researcher and the security needs.

> 
> If you would be so kind....   please answer the following questions and e-
> mail them to me directly so I may scientifically support my position.
> 
> I WILL USE NO NAMES OR ADDRESS IN MY REPORT, JUST THE DATA I COLLECT FROM
> 
>  THE QUESTIONS BELOW!!!
> 
> *********************  CUT HERE   *****************************************
> 
> 
> With what academic institution are you affiliated?
> 
>  _______________________________
> 
> 
> 
> Do faculty at your institution have a key or unlimited access to the main
> 
> 
>  stockroom/supply/support facility?   __________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ***************************************************************************
> 
> 
> Thank you for your time and the effort!
> 
> BMCNULTY@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
> 
> 
> 
> 
>         ////////                             "Adapt, Migrate, or Die" 
>        (       )             
>         \ @ @ /                               BMCNULTY@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
> -------w---U---w----
> Bob McNulty, CA. STATE UNIV., CHICO
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You may post, repost, or publish ANY communication received from me.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu (Pascal Hua)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: How does the cell deal with over-expression ?
Message-ID: <pjh3142-221193141539@mac2wild2.tamu.edu>
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Hello,

	I have a second question that I wanted to keep separate form the other one
for clarity purpose :-)).
	How do you think a metabolic pathway handles the over-expression of one of
the enzyme along the way to keep the flux through the pathway constant ?
	Many enzymes have been over-expressed.  The purpose might have been just
enzyme purification, or trying to increase the flux through the pathway. 
Quite often, the flux did not increase, and the conclusion was that a step
RbeforeS is the rate limiting step (see other post about that).  But what
happens to the substrate(s)/product(s) of this enzyme that has been
over-expressed ?  Are they any experimental evidences of how it is done
inside the cell ?

Pascal Hua                 pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu
Biochemistry & Biophysics
Texas A&M University.


Cross-posted to:
bionet.biology.computational
bionet.cellbiol
bionet.general
bionet.info-theory
bionet.metabolic-reg
bionet.molbio.proteins

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu (Pascal Hua)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: What is a rate limiting step ?
Message-ID: <pjh3142-221193141134@mac2wild2.tamu.edu>
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Hello,
	This question might seem easy, but I found it not so obvious as I thought
about it more:

	What does rate limiting mean to you ?

It is used quite often, and not only in biology.  The example I am dealing
with is a common one, a metabolic pathway.

	The simplest way to see it, is that there is not RenoughS of the first
enzyme on the pathway and RplentyS of the following enzymes.  When more of
the first enzyme is made, the flux through the pathway increases in a
direct (not necessarily linear) function of this first enzyme.  Does it
mean that this first enzyme is used at saturation of its substrate(s) ?  If
not, the element that keeps those substrate(s) constant would be the real
rate limiting step by providing the right flux of substrate so as to keep
it constant !  If that flux does not change, an increase in the quantity
and consequently in flux of the first enzyme would have the effect of
lowering the concentration of its substrate until the activity was restored
to its original value !
	I feel that I am chasing the chicken and the egg story.  But I think it is
important, because what we consider as RregulatoryS enzymes (cooperative
binding, aloesteric effector) exhibit those effects mostly at
sub-saturating concentrations of substrates.  How can they be rate limiting
and take advantage of those characteristics ?

Pascal Hua                 pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu
Biochemistry & Biophysics
Texas A&M University.


Cross-posted to:
bionet.biology.computational
bionet.cellbiol
bionet.general
bionet.info-theory
bionet.metabolic-reg
bionet.molbio.proteins

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: amb93002@uconnvm.uconn.edu (Angela M. Baldo)
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Subject: I need isolates of D. mauritiana
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Does anyone out there have access to D. mauritiana flies not related to
the one available from Bowling Green?  

I have been told by one source that only one isolate was ever captured,
by Jean David.  Can anyone corroborate?  M. Solignac published a paper
in JME 1986 which described using the mitochondrial DNA from several
strains of D. mauritiana.  It is not exactly clear whether these are
separate isolates.


Thank you in advance for any information you can offer.
 
anja 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: ortnerm@wst.edvz.sbg.ac.at (Maria Ortner)
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Subject: REMARK on PROSA: 1 Name <-> 2 Programs
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The name PROSA (PROtein Structure Analysis) from the CAME - Center
of Applied Molecular Engineering conflicts with the name PROSA (PROfile
Search Analysis) from the SQUIRREL package from C. Gartmann & U. Grob.

We will change the name of our PROtein Structure Analysis program in the
next version.

Maria Ortner
CAME - Center of Applied Molecular Engineering

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: jawahar@nii.ernet.in (G. Jawahar Swaminathan)
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Subject: Need Doc. File For PIR !
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Hi,
We have the PIR version v3/2.4 (december 1992) which runs on the
vax/vms system. Unfortunately we have al the document files
relating to the use of PSQ NAQ, and NRL_3D database, but are lacking in 
the document file needed for scoring matrices or running the ALIGN 
program !! 
If anyone has the necessary document files for the same, can you 
send it to my address given below, or can you direct me to the right
place from where they may be available ? 
Thanx in advance.
jawahar

p.s ONLY ALIGN AND MATRIX DOCUMENTS FILES ARE NEEDED. Please email it
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From: pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu (Pascal Hua)
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Subject: How does the cell deal with over-expression ?
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Hello,

	I have a second question that I wanted to keep separate form the other one
for clarity purpose :-)).
	How do you think a metabolic pathway handles the over-expression of one of
the enzyme along the way to keep the flux through the pathway constant ?
	Many enzymes have been over-expressed.  The purpose might have been just
enzyme purification, or trying to increase the flux through the pathway. 
Quite often, the flux did not increase, and the conclusion was that a step
RbeforeS is the rate limiting step (see other post about that).  But what
happens to the substrate(s)/product(s) of this enzyme that has been
over-expressed ?  Are they any experimental evidences of how it is done
inside the cell ?

Pascal Hua                 pjh3142@rigel.tamu.edu
Biochemistry & Biophysics
Texas A&M University.


Cross-posted to:
bionet.biology.computational
bionet.cellbiol
bionet.general
bionet.info-theory
bionet.metabolic-reg
bionet.molbio.proteins

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Nov 21 22:00:00 1993
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From: rose@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Kermit Rose)
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Subject: Re: I NEED HELP
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bmcnulty@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (bob) writes:
> 
> 
>      I am the manager of a stockroom/lab facility which is responsible for
> servicing the needs (chemical, reagents, and equipment) of a Biology
> department in a small university (14 - 16000 students).  The facility I
> manage supplies these items for over 80 laboratory class sections per week
> with only 3 personnel while at the same time managing a service/checkout
> window which is open for 6 hours each day (9:00am 'til 3:00pm). The
> department has 20 PHD faculty and several part time MS instructors or TAs.
> 
> I seem to have found myself in the middle