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In article <2ihtn3$g46@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
 mwadhwa@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Manpreet S Wadhwa) writes:

>> I know that BSA is routinely used to stabilize or 'cushion' proteins that
>> are in dilute buffers and this can lead to increased sp activity for
>> enzymes. Could it be that the BSA is favorably affecting the RT rather
>> than interacting with the NA?
>
> bsa apparently stabilizes many enzymes in dilute solution by preventing their
> aggregation or non-specific adsorption at interfacial surfaces. stabilization
> may also be afforded by glycerol or detergents like triton-x100.

NEB supplies acetylated BSA with some of their restriction enzymes so you can
add it to reduce spurious star activity if you like. Why is this the acetylated
form? Also, FYI, the BSA from them is not exactly the best fraction. I ran some
on SDS-PAGE and found several different bands when silver stained.

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In article <2io4ka$cbm@elna.ethz.ch>, schlaefli@micro.biol.ethz.ch (Hans Rudolf Schläfli) writes:
>In article <CKIqKI.MC2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Bill Nowatzke <wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu> says:
>>    Original post:
>>I have been trying to blot a tryptic fragment from an 8% SDS PAGE to
>>BioRad PVDF membrane. I thought that my blot was unsuccessful after
>>attempting to visualize by Ponceau S. I could not even detect my MW
>>standards. I decided to coomassie stain after destaining and saw all of
>>the protein that I had thought I loaded. Any clues as to why my ponceau S
>>did not work? I diluted a fresh Sigam concentrate (20 mL) into 180 mL of
>>deionized water. I stained for 5 min and watch as the membrane destained
>>in 1% AcOH. At no time did I see anything resembling a protein band. This>problem has occured for the past two consecutive times that I have tried
>>the technique. Your comments are appreciated.
>         Ruedi's reply:
>Your Ponceau probably worked, but it is a weak stain, compared to Coomassie, and PVDF 
>really is a bad blotting membrane and only appropriate for subsequent  peptide sequencing.
>Try a modified PVDF and/or load more protein or stain with Coomassie in 50% MeOH, this works
>for peptide sequencing, too.
>The exact procedure is described in "Current Protocols".
>
>Good luck.
>Ruedi
>schlaefli@micro.biol.ethz.ch

We are using 0.1% Ponceau S in 1% acetic acid staining either ABI ProBlott or
Millipore's Immobilon P-SQ membrane.  I am not having any problem seeing
protein bands but we've been testing it to see if we can do insitu digests off
of the blots.  So there is plenty of protein on the blot.  Tom

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In article <CKIqKI.MC2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Bill Nowatzke <wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu> says:
>
>I have been trying to blot a tryptic fragment from an 8% SDS PAGE to
>BioRad PVDF membrane. I thought that my blot was unsuccessful after
>attempting to visualize by Ponceau S. I could not even detect my MW
>standards. I decided to coomassie stain after destaining and saw all of
>the protein that I had thought I loaded. Any clues as to why my ponceau S
>did not work? I diluted a fresh Sigam concentrate (20 mL) into 180 mL of
>deionized water. I stained for 5 min and watch as the membrane destained
>in 1% AcOH. At no time did I see anything resembling a protein band. This>problem has occured for the past two consecutive times that I have tried
>the technique. Your comments are appreciated.

Your Ponceau probably worked, but it is a weak stain, compared to Coomassie, and PVDF 
really is a bad blotting membrane and only appropriate for subsequent  peptide sequencing.
Try a modified PVDF and/or load more protein or stain with Coomassie in 50% MeOH, this works
for peptide sequencing, too.
The exact procedure is described in "Current Protocols".

Good luck.
Ruedi
schlaefli@micro.biol.ethz.ch

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From: marcd@bota.ucl.ac.be (Denis Marc)
Subject: plant proteins extraction
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I realize for the moment proteins extraction from flower organs grinded in
liquid N2 with a boiling SDS buffer (4% SDS, 5% mercaptoethanol, 5%
sucrose) followed by incubation in an acetone buffer for one hour a -20¡C.

So, question is : Is the acetone step necessary and if it is, what is its
interest?

Thanks in advance
D.M.

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From: vdwal@bio.vu.nl (FJ van der Wal)
Subject: pasteurella plasmids
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Hello
Does anyone know if plasmids for cloning in Pasteurella, or shuttle vectors
also replicating in E.coli, are available somewhere? I would be very
obliged if somebody could answer this question, and maybe a handover
procedure could be initiated in the near future. I'm mailing this for a
collegue; answers can be mailed through oudega@bio.vu.nl
Thank in advance!

-- 
Fimme Jan van der Wal
dep. Molecular Microbiology
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
de Boelelaan 1087
1081 HV Amsterdam, NL
vdwal@bio.vu.nl

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     Does anyone know what the RIPA stands for, as in RIPA lysis
buffer/solubilization buffer ??  The recipe for it is in the Harlow and
Lane manual on the use of antibodies, and it contains NaCl, Noniodet P-40,
SDS, and deoxycholate (I think).  I don't know where they get RIPA from and
some hard ass is making my life difficult over this little point.  Thank
you.

John Hines
Univ. of Penna.
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From: pnh@fcsparc6.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen):

>NEB supplies acetylated BSA with some of their restriction enzymes so you can
>add it to reduce spurious star activity if you like. Why is this the acetylated
>form?

	The acetylation doesn't really affect the BSA, but it inactivates
nucleases in the not-so-pure prep.
					- Eric
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Hello fellow netters,

I wish to extract membrane proteins from Xenopus oocytes for a
Western blot.  Does anyone out there have a quick and simple
protocol for extracting membrane proteins from frog eggs?

-fm


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Tupy.Jon (tupy@rapids.tularik.com) wrote:

: I have produced a GST fusion protein via T7 promotor in e. coli (BL21) that is
: about 70 Kd (including GST).  After an initial fractionation on SP Sepharose,
: I have
: attempted a secondary purification on Glutathione Sepharose 4B (Pharmacia). 
: While I have obtained some pure fusion protein in eluting this column,
: the vast
: majority (>90%) of this protein remains bound to the column.  My elution
: buffer
: contains 20 mM reduced glutathione,100 mM KCl, and 25 mM HEPES (pH 7.9).

Maybe this is a trivial point, but do you add your glutathione _freshly_
to the buffer? I found that even during elution, quite a proportion of
GSH starts to oxidize as evident by UV absorption.

The elution buffer I used (three years ago) contained
	20 mM Tris/HCl, pH 8.0
	200 mM NaCl
	1 mM EDTA
	2 mM DTT
	0.02% Na-azide
	10 mM reduced glutathione (freshly added)

Hope that helps,
--Cornelius.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 06 22:00:00 1994
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Hi netland,

I have produced a GST fusion protein via T7 promotor in e. coli (BL21) that is
about 70 Kd (including GST).  After an initial fractionation on SP Sepharose, I have
attempted a secondary purification on Glutathione Sepharose 4B (Pharmacia). 
While I have obtained some pure fusion protein in eluting this column, the vast
majority (>90%) of this protein remains bound to the column.  My elution buffer
contains 20 mM reduced glutathione,100 mM KCl, and 25 mM HEPES (pH 7.9).  I first
applied this buffer at 4 degrees C, which didn't work.  Then I attempted an
elution at room temp, which also didn't yield additonal protein.  Finally, in an
effort to batch-elute the fusion protein from the resin, I added two column
volumes of elution buffer to the resin, capped the column at both ends, and
incubated the whole thing on a rocker at RT for an hour.  *Still* no elution!

Anyone have any tricks?  Thanks!

Jon

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 06 22:00:00 1994
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Hi Netters,
  We are looking for a program which will scan a library of protein
sequences and print out the percentage of acidic and basic residues
in each.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.
                            Michal Harel
                            csharel2@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il

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From: vdwal@bio.vu.nl (FJ van der Wal)
Subject: is there somebody working on pasteurella?
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Is there someone out there working on pasteurella? We are looking for a
plasmid to clone genes in pasteurella. You can reply through
oudega@bio.vu.nl

-- 
Fimme Jan van der Wal
dep. Molecular Microbiology
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
de Boelelaan 1087
1081 HV Amsterdam, NL
vdwal@bio.vu.nl

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We are trying to dissolve Keyhole limpet hemocyanin but it has proven to be
difficult. Has anyone experience in dissolving KLH to normal buffers as PBS?
We are waiting for good advices.

Jaana Pentik{inen
pentikai@messi.uku.fi


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In article <60735@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman) writes:
>Hello fellow netters,
>
>I wish to extract membrane proteins from Xenopus oocytes for a
>Western blot.  Does anyone out there have a quick and simple
>protocol for extracting membrane proteins from frog eggs?
>
>-fm
>


Internal membranes or plasmallemma ?????. If internal, then homogenise
teh eggs in the tube and spin briefly (10 minutes) at low spped to
remove the cell debris, cell membrane. Take the supernatant and spin
hard and long to pellet the organelle membrane (ER, Golgi). Adding
PreTreatment buffer to all fractions (ie SDS/2-Mercaptoethanol) should
solubilise everything, if all you want to look at is a Western Blot. The
crucial part is separating internal from external membrane, and
differential centrifugation should do this. Check the 'g' generated by
your microfuge, a rough guide; big stuff (outer and debris) comes down
at 10,000g for 10 minutes, internal comes down at 100,000g for 30-60
minutes. These times are for big centrifuges, but take into account the
characteristics of your benchtop or eppendorf centrifuge, and reduce the
time. Hope this helps
steven
-- 
__________________________________________________
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> 
> We are trying to dissolve Keyhole limpet hemocyanin but it has proven to be
> difficult. Has anyone experience in dissolving KLH to normal buffers as PBS?
> We are waiting for good advices.
> 
> Jaana Pentik{inen
> pentikai@messi.uku.fi
> 
>
Try changing te pH, actually I forget whether it is more soluble at acid
or alkali pH but I know that it is better in one direction and worse in the
other than at neutral. Or try adding some SDS. 

Both of theese speed up the process and you can generally dialyse
the buffers back to what you want without it coming out of solution.

good luck

Mike Duggan
 


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In article <2io4ka$cbm@elna.ethz.ch> schlaefli@micro.biol.ethz.ch (Hans Rudolf Schldfli) writes:
>In article <CKIqKI.MC2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Bill Nowatzke <wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu> says:

>>the protein that I had thought I loaded. Any clues as to why my ponceau S
>>did not work? I diluted a fresh Sigam concentrate (20 mL) into 180 mL of
>>deionized water. I stained for 5 min and watch as the membrane destained
>>in 1% AcOH. At no time did I see anything resembling a protein band. This>problem has occured for the past two consecutive times that I have tried
>>the technique. Your comments are appreciated.


You are probably washinbg the Poncy pink off the protein (this is not a
permenant stain). When I use Ponceau, I stain once , then rinse in
distilled water. The bands usually appear. If they do not appear 1st
time, try restaining. The weak AcOH will knock the stain off, I had this
problem once as well, but it is easily solved.



-- 
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I have been trying to run acetic acid/urea/triton gels of histones as
described by Bonner et al. (and also in _Gel electrophoresis of
proteins_ ed. Hames and Rickwood) and I've been unable to get a decent
electrophoresis run.  Does anyone out there know about AUT gels?  If
so, email me and I'll pour out my tale o' woe.  Thanks in
advance...Richard.

rransom@msu.edu

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Dear Netters,

Does anybody have any experience on using liposomes to deliver
proteins to the cytoplasm of cells growing in culture (ordinary
cell lines e.g. 3T3 etc.)? I would be grateful for any methods
references etc.

thanks in advance.

Mike Duggan
sgex400@sghms.lon.ac.uk


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In <2jdkio$ot1@news.nd.edu> (dave bennatt) writes:


>I've worked out a scheme where I biotinylate membrane proteins which is 
>useful for both detection and concentration of affinity column eluts
>on a strep-agarose column.. now I would like to get a peptide sequence on
>my protein of interest, and I'm wondering if the biotin on all the primary
>amines will interfere with good sequencing results?

>has anyone else tried to sequence biotinylated proteins?

Not that I've tried that as such, but most of the papers I've
seen on sequencing of other modified proteins (phosphorylated
or glycosylated) the modified residues just arent identifiable,
but they can usually get the sequence around it.
This still assumes that you have a free amine at the N-terminus;
if you've capped that, then Edman degradation type chemistry
is going to have some real problems...

Keith
-- 
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rickert@cco.caltech.edu  | I met my death - an experience I don't hesitate
keith@imppig.caltech.edu | strongly to recommend" - Baron von Munchchausen

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Jaana Pentikainen <pentikai@messi.uku.fi> writes:
 
>
>We are trying to dissolve Keyhole limpet hemocyanin but it has proven to be
>difficult. Has anyone experience in dissolving KLH to normal buffers as PBS?
>We are waiting for good advices.
>
>Jaana Pentik{inen
>pentikai@messi.uku.fi
>
 
 
Sometimes it is the quality of KLH that determines how well it
dissolves.  Try the KLH from Pierce; it dissolves well.  Also,
Pierce recommends dissolving it in 0.9 M NaCl, 50-100 mM NaPi pH 7,
10 mM EDTA (this is for a peptide coupling procedure).  Hope this
helps.
 
John
newittja@delphi.com
 

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I've worked out a scheme where I biotinylate membrane proteins which is 
useful for both detection and concentration of affinity column eluts
on a strep-agarose column.. now I would like to get a peptide sequence on
my protein of interest, and I'm wondering if the biotin on all the primary
amines will interfere with good sequencing results?

has anyone else tried to sequence biotinylated proteins?



        ************************       
             dave bennatt
       university of notre dame     
         dbennatt@darwin.cc.nd.edu
        onca@mead.u.washington.edu
       **************************** 
          

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From:	IRBMV1::WALLACE      "Andrew, Tel. +39-6-91093434" 11-FEB-1994 21:03:12.04
To:	SMTP%"ps44@namaste.cc.columbia.edu"
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Dear Pavel,
Another approach you could try is to measure the number of free thiols present
using the Ellman assay (Ellman, G.L. (1959) Arch. Biochem. Biophys. 82, 70), a
good protocol for which is described in the IRL practical approach series book
on protein structure by T.E. Creighton. In chapter 7 on page 157 he writes as
follows:
"The Ellman assay (ref) measures the nitrothiobenzoate (NTB) released upon
reaction of a thiol with DTNB (5,5'-dithionitrobenzoic acid which you can buy
from Pierce or Sigma). The procedure described here uses GdmCl to unfold the
protein and make all its thiols reactive, but the denaturant need not be
included.

1) Prepare a suitable protein solution of known concentration in 6 M GdmCl
   with 0.1 M phosphate buffer (pH 7.3) and 1 mM EDTA, plus a suitable 
   reference mixture without the protein. If the protein has been dialysed
   or gel-filtered, use the same volume of the dialysis or chromatography
   buffer in the reference mixture. Use sufficient protein in the assay so
   that at least one thiol per protein molecule could be detected; usually,
   at least 2 nmol is required.

2) Measure, or set to zero, the absorbance difference at 412 nm between 
   defined volumes of each of the protein and reference samples. Maintain the
   temperature of the samples near to 25 deg C.

3) For each ml of sample, add 50 ul of 3 mM DTNB (in 0.1 M phosphate buffer,
   pH 7.3) to each cuvette, followed by thorough mixing.

4) Immediately follow the increase in absorbance at 412 nm of the protein
   sample.

5) When the absorbance stops increasing, measure the absorbance difference
   between the protein and the reference samples.

6) From the increased absorbance in the protein sample caused by the reaction
   of DTNB, calculate the molar concentration of thiols present from the
   molar absorbance of the TNB anion {extinction coefficient = 13700/M cm in
   6 M GdmCl, 14150/M cm without GdmCl}

Method adapted from: Riddles et al., Methods in Enzymology (1983) 91, 49ff.

Hope it works for you.
Andrew
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From: ps44@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Pavel Sova)
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Subject: Presence of disulphide bond in protein - HELP!!
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Hi netters,

I have a question regarding analysis of presence/absence of cysteine 
bridge in protein.

The protein of my interest is virally encoded, small (23kD) and located 
inside of the mammalian cell, partially in cytoplasm, partially associated 
with membrane. Intracellular localization would suggest this protein does 
not create a cysteine bond; -> there are two cysteine residues 11 aa apart 
inside of it.

Functional analysis studies showed that either or both cysteines is 
esential for the function. (We did this by removing of cysteine(s) by 
site-directed mutagenesis)

To find out if there is a cysteine bond, I lysed infected cells in RIPA 
buffer in the presence of Iodoacetamide (0-10-25-50mM) and then I mixed the 
lysates with SDS-PAGE sample buffer (-DTT or -MeOH), and ran a SDS-PAGE, 
followed by WB with specific polyclonal antiserum.

The wild type protein in lysates in the presence of IAA was of the same 
mobility as mutated (Cys-) proteins (where I don't expect creation of 
disulphide bond - thus shift in mobility). However, when cells were lysed 
without IAA, I could detect double-band of my protein in a wild-type form - 
with one additional "faster" band. That would suggest me that without adding 
IAA, I detected a product of partial oxidation and that this oxidation is and
artefact of sample preparation.

In conclusion, the result that, in the presence of IAA, wild-type 
protein (two cysteine res. present) is of the *same mobility* as mutated 
proteins (one or none cysteine res.) or proteins run under presence of 
DTT tells me that there is actually no intrachain cysteine bond.

Sorry for this long explanation, but I want to go out with this for a 
publication and I am not sure (not being a biochemist) if my thinking and 
conclusions are right.

Does anyone have a comment? - Please e-mail me (or hit R/F key). Thanks.

 Pavel Sova = ps44@columbia.edu
 Molecular Virology Laboratory
 Columbia University
 New York


P.S. I apologize for my wrong tip regarding the databaze search for amino 
acid composition of protein I posted ~14 days ago - I mixed the terms 
"composition/sequence". Thanks for your e-mail straighting it up to me. 
Pavel

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Feb 11 22:00:00 1994
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From: winalski@gemgrp.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
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My 20-year-old copy of Lehninger's BIOCHEMISTRY says about ferredoxin and
the other nonheme iron proteins involved in oxidation and electron transport
that the structure of the Fe linkage to the protein is not known.  All that
was certain at that time is that the proteins contain the same number of
cysteine residues as Fe atoms, and that the sulfur is acid-labile and released
as H2S.

What's been discovered about this since 1970?  Do we know the structure of
the Fe linkage in the nonheme iron proteins now?

--PSW

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Pavel-
Have you tried 2-D electrophoresis to demonstrate the SS bond?
Lysis in RIPA->alkylation with iodoacetamide->nonreducing SDS
PAGE 1st dimension->reducing SDS PAGE 2nd dimension. Anything with
an internal or external SS bond is expected to fall off the 
diagonal.-Bob
-- 
Robert D. Hoffman, M.D., Ph.D.//Director, Autopsy Pathology
  Institute of Pathology//Case Western Reserve University
      2085 Adelbert Road//Cleveland, Ohio 44106, USA
           rdh5@po.cwru.edu//HOFFMAN@ncifcrf.gov

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From: rickert@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Warren Rickert)
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Subject: Re: Fe and S linkage in nonheme iron proteins?
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In <2jja1o$oms@jac.zko.dec.com> winalski@gemgrp.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes:


>My 20-year-old copy of Lehninger's BIOCHEMISTRY says about ferredoxin and
>the other nonheme iron proteins involved in oxidation and electron transport
>that the structure of the Fe linkage to the protein is not known.  All that
>was certain at that time is that the proteins contain the same number of
>cysteine residues as Fe atoms, and that the sulfur is acid-labile and released
>as H2S.

>What's been discovered about this since 1970?  Do we know the structure of
>the Fe linkage in the nonheme iron proteins now?

I believe that the clusters involved in ferredoxin
are Fe4S4 clusters - imagine a cube, with 4 of the corners
being S and 4 being Fe, and arranged so that every Fe has 3
nearest neighbors are S, and vice versa.
Cysteines attach to the irons.
There are other varieties of non-heme irons,  for quite
a number of proteins.

Keith

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rickert@cco.caltech.edu  | I met my death - an experience I don't hesitate
keith@imppig.caltech.edu | strongly to recommend" - Baron von Munchchausen

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Feb 12 22:00:00 1994
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Reference: Gaston H. Gonnet, Mark A. Cohen, Steven A. Benner, SCIENCE
           Vol. 256, P. 1443 (1992)

I quote the following statement from the above reference:

"The difficulties in contructing alignment routines are further complicated
by the requirement that they handle deletions and insertions.  Even random
sequences can be aligned if gaps are introduced at no penalty.  Most
alignment programs therefore assign penalties to gaps of the form (ak + b),
where a and b are arbitrarily chosen constants.  There is no justification,
either theoretical or empirical, for this treatment.  Indeed, many of the
questionable conclusions drawn from alignments arise because of
inappropriately placed gaps.  Conversely, correctly placed gaps provide
information that is critical to the de novo prediction of the folded
structure of proteins from sequence data alone (4-6).  Such information led
to the remarkably accurate predictions of the folded structures of
tryptophan synthase and protein kinase before crystallographic information
was avilable (4-6)."

I pose the following question to the network:

Given the increasingly apparent importance of "correctly placed gaps" do
you know of any researchers taking the concept of gaps even further, i.e. by
discriminating between "conserved" positions (i.e. specific residues always
present at a particular location in a group of aligned sequences) and
"non-conserved" or "degenerate" positions (i.e. not only gap positions in
the traditional sense of insertions/deletions but also mutation positions).
The point here is that a position is either conserved or it is not; the
only essential difference between a gap (insertion/deletion) and a mutation
of a specific length is that the presence of a gap indicates that in at
least one sequence in the group of aligned sequences the mutation is present
as "the empty or null set" (to borrow a concept from set theory).  I believe
the real challenge to analysts is in establishing this discrimination
between conserved and degenerate sequence position.  It may be that in
broadening the idea of mutations to include gaps, such a generalization
would require nested or recursive analysis.

I would appreciate any comments from the network in this regard.
Edwin Wright
85 Spinnaker Drive, A-602
Halifax, Nova Scotia
CANADA B3N 3E3

Telephone: (902) 477-5037

Email: ewright@fox.nstn.ns.ca
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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Can anyone help me with a recent review about the classification of
proteases? I am a bit out of touch with recent thinking about how
proteases should be classified (and named) and would like to make good
the deficiency.

Many thanks

--
        Craig Marshall          	craigm@sanger.otago.ac.nz or
        Biochemistry Department 	bioc07@otago.ac.nz
        University of Otago     	Phone 64 3 479 7849   	
        P.O. Box 56             	Fax   64 3 479 7866   	
        Dunedin, New Zealand                                   	

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I the past I have had great trouble with AUT gels. One problem that I
did find was with the Triton. This can apparently degrade with the
production of peroxides, ketones and carboxylic acids. The test for
this is the pH of a 10% solution which should be neutral according to
Merck. If it is not, try and get another fresh bottle of Triton and
see if that helps.

Cheers

Parcheesi Man (rransom@msu.edu) wrote:


> I have been trying to run acetic acid/urea/triton gels of histones as
> described by Bonner et al. (and also in _Gel electrophoresis of
> proteins_ ed. Hames and Rickwood) and I've been unable to get a decent
> electrophoresis run.  Does anyone out there know about AUT gels?  If
> so, email me and I'll pour out my tale o' woe.  Thanks in
> advance...Richard.

> rransom@msu.edu

--
        Craig Marshall          	craigm@sanger.otago.ac.nz or
        Biochemistry Department 	bioc07@otago.ac.nz
        University of Otago     	Phone 64 3 479 7849   	
        P.O. Box 56             	Fax   64 3 479 7866   	
        Dunedin, New Zealand                                   	

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In article <2jja1o$oms@jac.zko.dec.com>, winalski@gemgrp.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) says:
>
>
>What's been discovered about this since 1970?  Do we know the structure of
>the Fe linkage in the nonheme iron proteins now?
>
>--PSW



Most non-heme iron-sulfur proteins of the mentioned types contain simple  (2Fe-2S) centers of
 the "plant-ferredoxin" or the "Rieske" type. In the plant-ferredoxin type proteins each Fe-atom
is linked to the two inorganic S and to two organic (Cys) S.  In the Rieske type (2Fe-2S) centers
one Fe is coordinated in the same way, the second is linked to the inorganic S and to two His-
residues of the protein.  Annu.Rev.Microbiol. (1992) 46: 277-305 gives a good overview.

HRS

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From: wqc@hood.caltech.edu (Wangqin Chen)
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Subject: Swiss protein sequence
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How do I access to the SWISS:PROT protein sequence data base? If anybody 
knows, please help! Thank.

              -Qin Chen

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From: --- (Leptin lab)
Subject: protease site prediction
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I would very much appreciate if anyone could send me information about the
prediction of consensus protease cleavage sites. Thanks for the the help.

Cristina Stella, 
MPI fuer Entwicklungsbiologie, TŸbingen
Stella@MPBVAX.MPIB-Tuebingen.MPG.DE

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From: puck@daily.unt.edu (Puck)
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Keywords: Bovine

I am looking for information on the use of a biengineered protein to 
increase dair cow milk yield.

Is the hormone released in the cow's milk?

Does pasteurization (or any other process) kill the hormone?

If the hormone is present in commercial milk, what are the health 
consequences for those who drink it?

Are there any discussion groups or gophers where I could find this 
information?

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 13 22:00:00 1994
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From: brenner@rose.brandeis.edu (Charles Brenner)
Subject: Re: Classification of proteases
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craigm@sanger.otago.ac.nz (Craig Marshall) writes:

>Can anyone help me with a recent review about the classification of
>proteases? I am a bit out of touch with recent thinking about how
>proteases should be classified (and named) and would like to make good
>the deficiency.

There are going to be two volumes of MEth Enz coming out soon.  Alan
J. Barrett is the editor and he has written a chapter on
classification.  Until the arrival of those volumes, look for the
report of the INt. Union of Biochem that A. J. Barrett headed up.  It
is the definitive word on classification and nomenclature.

--
Charles Brenner, Ph.D.		Fellow of the Leukemia Society of America
Rosenstiel Center, rm 610	phone (617) 736-4944
Brandeis University		fax   (617) 736-2405
Waltham, MA 02254-9110		brenner@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 13 22:00:00 1994
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From: speicher@cco.caltech.edu (Stephen Speicher)
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wqc@hood.caltech.edu (Wangqin Chen) writes:


>How do I access to the SWISS:PROT protein sequence data base? If anybody 
>knows, please help! Thank.

>              -Qin Chen

Hi,

Swiss-prot can be found at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov in directory repository/swiss-prot.

Stephen
sjs@moon.hood.caltech.edu

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From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Subject: Re: Swiss protein sequence
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In article <2joiap$dm8@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, wqc@hood.caltech.edu (Wangqin Chen) writes:
|> 
|> How do I access to the SWISS:PROT protein sequence data base? If anybody 
|> knows, please help! Thank.

The current release information is 

            THE SWISS-PROT PROTEIN SEQUENCE DATA BANK
                       Release 27, October 1993
        33329 entries, comprising 11,484,420 amino acids


The original author is 

    Amos Bairoch
    Medical Biochemistry Department
    Centre Medicale Universitaire
    1211 Geneva 4
    Switzerland

You may access SWISSPROT via 


- purchased media 

EMBL's CD ROM pack, including access sw for Mac and DOS systems

Entrez from NCBI, including access sw for Mac,Windows,Unix systems (GUI) 

- public domain clients/Network servers 

FTP (various sites, including NCBI and others in the US), 
GOPHER (see GOPHER FAQ what GOPHER is), amongst other sites,  on 

Name=About SWISS-PROT
Type=0
Port=70
Path=0/molbio/aswiss
Host=helix.nih.gov

WWW (World Wide Web) , (see also, some WWW FAQ) on 
http://expasy.hcuge.ch/sprot/sprot-top.html

- special client software

Browsing with BLAST via WWW or netblast, 
Browsing with BLAST or FASTA via EMBnet HASSLE servers,


- electronic Mail servers 

BLAST (NCBI)
BLITZ (EMBL)
FASTA (EMBL)

- other software of interest , on "mainframes" or workstations

GCG (Genetics Computer Group) - SW package [commercial]
IG Suite (Intelligenetics) - SW package [commercial]
many others on PC, Mac, or other OS [partially commercial]


Maybe this helps

Regards
Reinhard 


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	A new release of the FASTA program package, version 1.7, is
now available from virginia.EDU in pub/fasta as fasta17.shar(.Z).

	This version replaces the "rdf2" and "rss" programs with
"prdf" and "prss", which calculate more accurate estimates for the
statistical significance of a similarity score based on the scores of
randomly shuffled sequences.  The earlier "rdf2" and "rss" programs
calculated a "z-value," which is not very informative if the
distribution of similarity scores is not normal.  Sequence similarity
scores for random sequences are distributed according to the extreme
value distribution, which is quite different from the normal
distribution, especially for high scores. Prss and prdf estimate the
parameters of the extreme value distribution and use these parameters
to calculate the probability that a score as good or better than the
unshuffled sequence score will be obtained.  I appreciate the help of
Stephen Altschul, who showed me the error of calculating "z-values",
and the help of Phil Green, who provided the extreme value
distribution estimation routine.

	Statistical estimates based on the extreme value distribution
are usually more conservative than earlier estimates based on
"z-values."

In addition, a bug in the alignment routines that caused error
messages and core dumps on some machines has been fixed.  This bug has
also been fixed in version 1.6. The new 1.6 version is available as
fasta16c32.shar(.Z).

Bill Pearson

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From: sandy@nmr1.pt.cyanamid.COM (Sandy Silverman)
Subject: Re: Hormone Bovine Somatotropin
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The protein is normally present in milk.  See discussion in sci.agriculture
recently.
--
Sanford Silverman                      >Opinions expressed here are my own<
American Cyanamid  
sandy@pt.cyanamid.com, silvermans@pt.cyanamid.com     "Yeast is Best"

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Feb 15 22:00:00 1994
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Dear all,

We need some streptolysin-o rather urgently for some work on
permeablising cells. We had thought to obtain it from Sigma, but thei
are having some problems with their production at the moment (i.e. the
stuff is not active when it reaches us the customer).

We are, therefore, looking for some alternative source of supply. If
anybody knows of a company which can supply reliable streptolysin-o,
preferably with a UK/European agent, we would be most grateful.

We have heard that it can be (or used to be) obtained from

WBAG Resource Inc. in Switzerland

and

The Institut Pasteur Production Company (?)

but cannot find phone/fax numbers for these organisations, again any help
would be most welcome.

thanks Mike Duggan


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In article <761426472snz@genesys.demon.co.uk>, Duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk
(Duncan Clark) wrote:

> Hi Netters,
> 
> Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
> rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
> my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
> ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
> ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
> at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Duncan Clark                        | Internet:    duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk
> GeneSys Ltd.                        | Compuserve:  100015.1406@compuserve.com
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've wondered the same thing.  Though in my case, I've tried to Amm.SO4-ppt
my protein from a solution containing 0.3% sarkosyl.  I thought that it was
because of the detergent, but that's just a guess.  Any detergent in your
sample?  I'll be eager to hear what others say!


 _  _  |_  RICK HERSHBERGER, PH.D. * Postdoctoral Fellow
|  |_| | | Inst. for Molecular Virology * UW-Madison
   |       rphershb@facstaff.wisc.edu * RickOnline@aol.com

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Hi Netters,

Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?

Thanks

Duncan
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Hello netters,
Following are the references for structural alignments.
1. A review of methods for protein str. comparison,
   C.A.Orengo, in "Patterns in Protein Sequence and Structure",
    ed. W.R.Taylor, 1992
2. Quantification of Secondary Str. prediction improvement using
   multiple alignments,  Levin etal., Prot.Eng.,vol.6,pp.849, 1993
3. Limits of Prot.Sec.Str. prediction accuracy from multiple seq.
   alignment,  Russell etal., J.MOl.Biol., vol.234, pp.951, 1993
4. A structural basis for sequence comparisons-an evaluation of
   scoring methodlogies,  Johnson etal., vol.233,pp.716, 1993
The review (1) covers almost all the existing methods.  Hope this helps.
--------Geetha Vasudevan.

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From: dreyer@bio5.chemie.uni-freiburg.de (Matthias Dreyer)
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Dear Netters,

 I am looking for a commercial or non-commercial source for
phospho-glycolohydramate:

   __                 __
   |                   | 3-
   |   O               |
   |   |               |
   | O-P-O-CH2-C=N-OH  |
   |   |       |       |
   |   O       O       |
   |                   |
   __                 __

I need this as a transition state analogue of the ene-diolate form of
dihydroxyacetone phosphate.


Thanks for any help,

                   Matthias

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*Institut fuer Org. Chemie und Biochemie    *
*Universitaet Freiburg                      *
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From: smb18@mbfs.bio.cam.ac.uk (Simon Brocklehurst (Bioc))
Subject: Re: Gaps (Protein Sequences)
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ewright@FOX.NSTN.NS.CA ("Edwin Wright") writes:

>Given the increasingly apparent importance of "correctly placed gaps" do
>you know of any researchers taking the concept of gaps even further, i.e. by
>discriminating between "conserved" positions (i.e. specific residues always
>present at a particular location in a group of aligned sequences) and
>"non-conserved" or "degenerate" positions (i.e. not only gap positions in
>the traditional sense of insertions/deletions but also mutation positions).

This kind of thing is being considered in the modelling group of Tom
Blundell, at Birkbeck College, Universty of London, UK.

They use so-called "subsitution tables" which are multidimensional
matrices where each element is the probability that one residue (or a gap)
will mutate to another residue (or a gap) when the the residue (or gap) is in a
given structural environment.  The probabilities are obtained by analysis of 
sequence alignments derived from "GOOD" structural alignments.  I'm afraid
I don't have their references to hand.  Those who want to do a literature
search, should check the following authors :

             T. L. Blundell, J. P. Overington, M. S. Johnson, C. M. Topham,
             A. Sali.

   I think the first papers on this probably appeared in 1990 or 91.
The alignments produced by this group are probably the best in the field, and
thus the data they derive is likely to be those most rich in information.

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Cambridge Centre for Molecular Recognition
Department of Biochemistry
University of Cambridge
Cambridge
UK

E-mail: s.m.brocklehurst@bioc.cam.ac.uk


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From: bpgm@unixg.ubc.ca (Brent Pollock)
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Duncan:

Perhaps it is some membrane component like a lipopolysaccharide? We often
get the same thing with our preps but we haven't investigated it to any great
degree. It doesn't seem to interfere with the preps.

Ciao,
Brent Pollock

>Hi Netters,
>
>Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
>rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
>my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
>ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
>ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
>at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?
>
>Thanks
>
>Duncan



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[ Article crossposted from bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts ]
[ Author was Patricia Foster ]
[ Posted on 17 Feb 1994 00:00:27 GMT ]

Dear Netters,
  We have to decide whether to have antibodies raised
against our already purified denatured protein, or to
try to purify it under native conditions.  So, how
likely is it that polyclonal antibodies raised 
against a denatured protein will immunoabsorb the
native form of the protein, or a complex of it with
other proteins, in a cell lysate?
Thanks,
Pat
--
Patricia L. Foster
Boston University School of Medicine
Boston, MA USA
pfoster@bu.edu

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Patricia L. Foster
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pfoster@bu.edu

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From: sre@al.cam.ac.uk (Sean Eddy)
Subject: Re: Gaps (Protein Sequences)
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In article <63805.ewright@fox.nstn.ns.ca> ewright@FOX.NSTN.NS.CA ("Edwin Wright") writes:
  > (quoting from Gonnet et. al.)
  >"The difficulties in contructing alignment routines are further complicated
  >by the requirement that they handle deletions and insertions.  Even random
  >sequences can be aligned if gaps are introduced at no penalty.  Most
  >alignment programs therefore assign penalties to gaps of the form (ak + b),
  >where a and b are arbitrarily chosen constants.  There is no justification,
  >either theoretical or empirical, for this treatment."

I've always found this statement faintly amusing. If you read
carefully, you find that after this very forceful (and quite correct,
except for the "arbitrarily chosen" bit) paragraph, they turn right
around and use a gap penalty of form (ak + b) for their automatic
alignments. Why? There *is* a theoretical justification for using
affine gap costs, though it's a weak one -- the algorithms are fast :)

  >Given the increasingly apparent importance of "correctly placed gaps" do
  >you know of any researchers taking the concept of gaps even further, i.e. by
  >discriminating between "conserved" positions (i.e. specific residues always
  >present at a particular location in a group of aligned sequences) and
  >"non-conserved" or "degenerate" positions (i.e. not only gap positions in
  >the traditional sense of insertions/deletions but also mutation positions).

Yes. If I understand, you want to use statistics from multiple sequence
alignments -- some positions should get more weight than others because
they're more conserved, and insertion/deletion costs should be variable
per position because we know that insertions are more likely in some
places (loops) than others (secondary structure elements). There's
a lot of nice work on this problem.

Here's a couple of references. Gribskov et. al.  introduced "sequence
profiles" which roughly do what you're suggesting.  Krogh et. al., in
what may become a very influential paper, have formalized sequence
profiles in terms of hidden Markov models; one interesting advantage
of HMMs is that they are adaptive models, which can "learn" their
parameters from initially unaligned sequence data.

@Article{Gribskov90,
  author =       "Michael Gribskov and Roland Luthy and David Eisenberg",
  title =        "Profile Analysis",
  journal =      "Meth. Enzymol.",
  year =         1990,
  volume =       183,
  pages =        "146-159"
}

@Article{Krogh94,
  author =       "Anders Krogh and Michael Brown and I. Saira Mian and
                  Kimmen Sjolander and David Haussler",
  title =        "Hidden {M}arkov Models in Computational Biology:
                  Applications to Protein Modeling",
  journal =      "J. Mol. Biol.",
  year =         1994,
  volume =       235,
  pages =        "1501-1531"
}


--
- Sean Eddy
- MRC Laboratory of Molecular Biology, Cambridge, England
- sre@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk

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From: muriana@aclcb.purdue.edu (Peter M. Muriana)
Subject: Re: Floating Amm.SO4 ppts.
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In article <rphershb-160294150540@bromo.bocklabs.wisc.edu>, rphershb@facstaff.wisc.edu (Rick Hershberger) writes:
>In article <761426472snz@genesys.demon.co.uk>, Duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk
>(Duncan Clark) wrote:
>
>> Hi Netters,
>> 
>> Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
>> rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
>> my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
>> ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
>> ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
>> at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Duncan Clark    

>I've wondered the same thing.  Though in my case, I've tried to Amm.SO4-ppt
>my protein from a solution containing 0.3% sarkosyl.  I thought that it was
>because of the detergent, but that's just a guess.  Any detergent in your
>sample?  I'll be eager to hear what others say!
>
>
> _  _  |_  RICK HERSHBERGER, PH.D. 

Yes, most readily during the purification of bacteriocins (antimicrobial 
peptides)
         from various lactic acid bacteria.  The media that is commonly 
used to grow lactobacilli, etc., often contains the detergent, Tween 80. 
During precipitation with ammonium sulfate, we often (rather, always) see
the formation of a floating flocculate which forms a tighter pellicle upon
centrifugation.  It appears that the hydrophobic bacteriocins are 
associating with Tween micelles that forms the bulk of the floating layer 
when ammonium sulfate is applied (this has been noticed in AEM 57:114(1991)
;AEM 57:1829(1991); J.Appl.Bact 74:67(1993); Curr. Microbiol.27:35(1993)).
We've found that the Tween actually facilitates purification of the 
bacteriocin from culture supernatant broths at relatively low saturation
levels; use a Solid Phase extraction cartridge with stepwise organic phase 
elution to further purify large quantities (0%, 25%, 50%, 75% isopropanol);
most of the contaminating proteins come off in the 25% eluent, whereas our 
bacteriocins come off with the 50% wash.  However, they strongly associate 
with the Tween, but you can resolve to homogeniety on HPLC reversed-phase.

Armon et al., 1988; Can. J. Microbiol. purposely added Tween and beef 
extract to bacteriophage preps, followed by ammonium sulfate
 flocculation to concentrate/recover bacteriophage in the floating pellicle
.  (Tween and beef extract are both components of MRS broth used to culture 
lactobacilli for production of bacteriocins!). Oh, Can.J. Microbiol.34:651,
1988.

Regards, Peter Muriana
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From: ming@ahabs.wisc.edu (Ding Ming)
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Subject: Re: Sine-like bands in isoelectric focussing
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In article <Pine.3.87.9402172203.A16087-0100000@possum>,
harris@POSSUM.MURDOCH.EDU.AU (leon harris) wrote:

> of a nice straight band I am getting a curvey one (~ instead of -). What 
> causes it? 

Dear Leon,

Based on my experience, IEF is the trickiest one in all kinds of page. So
be patient and careful. The curved band you mentioned here may be caused by
your sample rather than the electrophoresis device and setup. It seems to
me that your sample has a relatively high concentration of salts and you
should dialyze your samples thoroughly before loading them on the gel. In
addition, if there is anything you found which is related to gel batch, try
to make the gel in a hour or so,  polymerization should not be either too
slow or too fast.

The bending problem in native page was callled "edge effect"(:)! Try to
avoid using the wellls next to both edges.

Good luck!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Ding Ming                           Telephone: (608)265-3544
University of Wisconsin-Madison          Fax: (608)262-7420

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: rjl4@quads.uchicago.edu (Bob Litt)
Subject: Trouble binding GST fusion protein to glutathione column
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I am having trouble binding a GST fusion protein to a glutathione
column.  I am attempting to purify fusion proteins with Ypt1, a yeast
GTP binding protein.  I have succesfully purified the wild-type
protein and two different mutants of this protein using fusions to
GST.  My third mutant (which is, of course, the most interesting)
expresses at high levels in E. coli (checked by Western) at similar
levels to the wild-type Ypt1 fusion.  The protein is soluble (not in
inclusion bodies).  This troublesome GST fusion does not bind well to
the glutathione column.  This troublesome fusion protein binds 20
times less than the analogous wild-type fusion protein.  My yields are
abysmal.  I need more protein.  I have tried:
1)  Extending the binding time to the glutahtione dolumn from 1 hour
to overnight.  This has no effect on the amount of protein bound to
the beads.

2) Decreasing or eliminating the amount of detergent in the bacterial
lysate and in the washes after binding.  This has no effect.

3)  Changing the time and temperature and amounts of IPTG during the
induction period of the fusion protein.  This has helped "some", but
is probably optimized now.

I am at a loss.  Has anyone ever had similar problems with GST
fusions, or heard of similar problems?  

Any and all help is greatly appreciatted.

Thanks in advance,
Bob Litt

-- 
Ypt1Sec4Rab3ARab1ARasGTPBindingConsensusMumboJumboARFNSFGTPgammaS
  ER   | Bob Litt (rjl4@midway.uchicago.edu) 
  \/   |   Segev Lab  --  "if it's secreted, we like it" 
 Golgi |     Univ of Chicago Dept of Molec Genetics and Cell Biol

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From: lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au (Lloyd Allison)
Subject: Re: Gaps (Protein Sequences)
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sre@al.cam.ac.uk (Sean Eddy) writes:

>  >where a and b are arbitrarily chosen constants.  There is no justification,
>  >either theoretical or empirical, for this treatment."

>I've always found this statement faintly amusing. If you read
>carefully, you find that after this very forceful (and quite correct,
>except for the "arbitrarily chosen" bit) paragraph, they turn right
>around and use a gap penalty of form (ak + b) for their automatic
>alignments. Why? There *is* a theoretical justification for using
>affine gap costs, though it's a weak one -- the algorithms are fast :)

for a general philosophy of comparing models of gaps (and other parameters)
in models of evolving sequences:

%A L. Allison
%A C. S. Wallace
%A C. N. Yee
%T Finite-state models in the alignment of macromolecules
%J J. Mol. Evol
%V 35
%P 77-89
%D 1992
%K JME, finite state, model, FSM, probabilistic, PFSM, hidden Markov model,
   HMM, insert, delete, indel, gap, gaps, cost function, penalty, string,
   sequence, homology, similarity

Lloyd ALLISON
Central Inductive Agency,
Department of Computer Science,     email: lloyd@cs.monash.edu.au
Monash University, Clayton,         tel:   61 3 905 5205
Victoria 3168, AUSTRALIA            fax:   61 3 905 5146


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Duncan Clark <Duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk> writes:
 
>Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
>rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
>my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
>ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
>ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
>at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?
 
 
If it is indeed protein in your precipitate, the problem is that your
solution density is to great.  That is the salt and other components
in your solution combined with the added ammonium sulfate create a
solution that has a density greater than that of the precipitated
protein. The only way to get it to pellet is to reduce the density of
the solution, i.e. try precipitating with less ammonium sulfate if you
can get away with it, or reduce the solute concentration in your protein
solution if you can.  Hope this helps.
	- John   <newittja@delphi.com>

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From: bryant@ray.nlm.nih.gov (Steve Bryant)
Subject: Sequences from PDB via Entrez
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I've in the past seen messages on this board concering access to sequences
derived from the Brookhaven Protein Data Bank.  I've recently finished putting 
the latest PDB sequences into the Entrez database distributed by NCBI, and I
thought I'd take the opportunity to remind folks that Entrez can be an easy way
to retrieve a sequence from PDB.  

PDB-derived sequences can be identified within Entrez by using the keyword 
"pdb-structure".  This will find either all PDB-derived protein sequences or 
all PDB-derived nucleic acid sequences, depending on which category one 
selects.  Particular sequences within these groups may be found by pdb id-code,
"accession number" in Entrez, or by looking for protein names and the like in 
"text terms". The pdb-derived entries contain "text-terms" derived from PDB 
COMPOUND and SOURCE records, as well as from other PDB record types. One can 
also find PDB-derived sequences by searching for descriptive names in the 
Medline abstracts included with Entrez.  About 90% of the citations in PDB are 
linked to the corresponding Medline citation, and if you can find the paper 
that reported a structure, you can then ask for the associated sequence.  
Sequences may be written out of Entrez in different formats, including FASTA 
sequence files.  

The pdb sequence reports in Entrez combine information provided on pdb ATOM
and/or HETATM records with the explicit sequence given on SEQRES.  (In about 1%
of cases ATOM/HETATM and SEQRES cannot be linked unambiguously, due to missing
data or inconsistencies. In these cases biopolymer sequences are derived from 
ATOM records.)  Because of this linking the sequence reports contain a fairly 
rich annotation, including secondary structure, disulfide bonds, bonds to 
nonpolymer groups, and descriptions of modified biopolymer residues.  They also
contain the residue numbers assigned by pdb on ATOM/HETATM records, so that one
can unambiguously identify the coordinates in the pdb file that go with each 
residue in the sequence.  

PDB-derived sequence reports in Entrez are derived automatically from pdb 
files, and I update the collection with each new release of pdb.  Network 
Entrez version 9.0 came out on February 10, and its database includes all 
polypeptide and nucleic acid sequences on the "October, 1993" Brookhaven CD, 
which I received in late January.

Steve Bryant
2/16/94


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	Greetings;
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	Sorry if this is a FAQ but is there a public domain distance geometry package (for protein nmr data)  available via the net.

	Cheers;

	Lorne Taylor
	Chemistry
	U. of Waterloo
	CANADA
	ltaylor@peptidarus.uwaterloo.ca
	 



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Hi netters!
	Does anyone out there have any experience with the LKB PAGplate 
system for isoelectric focussing? I am having this problem where, instead 
of a nice straight band I am getting a curvey one (~ instead of -). What 
causes it? My system is refrigerated to 4oC, and I am running under the 
coditions suggested by LKB. It just aint right! Also does anyone have any 
suggestion why the bands closest to the edge (ie near the spacers) 
sometimes bend on native discontinuous PAGE? (I don't use the end wells 
now). Any suggestions would really be appreciated.

Bye for now

Leon
 
Harris@possum.murdoch.edu.au



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Do anybody know of a european FTP site that contain the coordinates of the 3-Dfiles that otherwise are in the Brookhaven Database?
Pal Szecsi
University of Lund
Sweden

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Subject: HELP: thermodyn data of phosphotyrosine/tyrosine
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hello everybody out there!

a friend of mine is searching for delta-H and/or delta-G of the phosphorylation
of tyrosine, so any hint where to find data of formation energies of
(L-para-)phosphotyrosine and tyrosine itself or thermodynamic data concerning
the above mentioned reaction itself would be very much appreciated.

thanx
          willi

ps: could you please mail to me directly, since i don't often look in these
newsgroups (E-Mail: WOLF_W@FHI-Berlin.MPG.DE)

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Subject: Re: Floating Amm.SO4 ppts.
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In article <xQ1p2Ke.newittja@delphi.com>, newittja@delphi.com writes:
> Duncan Clark <Duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk> writes:
>  
>Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
>rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
>my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
>ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
>ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
>at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?
>  

If you are really using 70% AS the solution is simply denser than the 
precipitated proteins, which therefore float. Doesn't your recipe call
for using 70% of *saturation*? Which is about 40 % W/V if my memory
serves.
-- 
Tom Bickle
Microbiology Dept, Biozentrum, Basel University
Klingelbergstrasse 70, CH-4056 Basel, Switzerland
+ 41 61 267 21 20       bickle@urz.unibas.ch

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i am trying to dissociate a oligomeric enzyme without unfolding the
subunits.  i have read that thiocynate (SCN-) is often useful in the
generation of 'structured monomers'.

i would appreciate hearing from those who have used SCN or some other
moderate denaturant.

diz

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Subject: Mac-compatable flatbed scanners and software for 2-D analysis.
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Does anyone have any experience with Mac-compatable flatbed scanners
and software for scanning autoradiographs of 2-D gels? Our lab-net
includes PC's, Mac's and a remote-mounted Sun station, but the machine
we want to hang the scanner off of is a Mac. We have downloaded a 2-D
manipulation and analysis program from CERN (Melanie) which runs in the
Unix world and is accessable to the Macs through eXodus X-windows. The
problem now is finding a reasonably priced (<$2000) fairly high
resolution flatbed scanner with software that will allow thresholding
and will provide 256 levels of grayscale reproducibly. If anyone has
any experience with Mac scanners, especially in conjunction with
scanning autorads, please respond either in this news group or feel
free to send me e-mail at: 
        
                             mwaugh@crl.nmsu.edu
   
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Subject: Re: Sine-like bands in isoelectric focussing
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In article <Pine.3.87.9402172203.A16087-0100000@possum>,
leon harris <harris@POSSUM.MURDOCH.EDU.AU> wrote:
>
>Hi netters!
>	Does anyone out there have any experience with the LKB PAGplate 
>system for isoelectric focussing? I am having this problem where, instead 
>of a nice straight band I am getting a curvey one (~ instead of -). What 
>causes it? My system is refrigerated to 4oC, and I am running under the 
>coditions suggested by LKB. It just aint right! Also does anyone have any 
>suggestion why the bands closest to the edge (ie near the spacers) 
>sometimes bend on native discontinuous PAGE? (I don't use the end wells 
>now). Any suggestions would really be appreciated.
>
>Bye for now
>
>Leon
> 
>Harris@possum.murdoch.edu.au
>
>

I think you may have several possible problems. Look at a copy of the 
Pharmacia IEF guide. There are several sections describing problems 
like yours. If you can't find a copy, send me your full mail (ie real)
address, and I'll send you a copy of the relevant bits.

Here's a summary:

Disturbances and wavy bands (in IEF gels)

1. Poor contact between electrode and electrode strip

2. Poor choice of electrode solutions

3. Uneven wetting of electrode strip

4. Excess salt

I never run a sample in the outermost lane-edge effect distortion is
almost inevitable. Also, try running at a lowwer temperature.

Hope this helps,

Simon
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Environmental Biology Dept.,      spp@uk.ac.aber (janet)
AFRC Institute of Grasslands 
and Environmental Research,
Aberystwyth,
Dyfed,
UK,
SY23 3RH.

Tel: +44 (0)970 828255
Fax: +44 (0)970 828357

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Feb 17 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: PP2B Inhibitor
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From: udbl119@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk (Mandy Johnstone)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:10:30
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Hi,
Does anyone know of a good inhibitor for protein phosphatase 2B (calcineurin) 
that can be used in an in vitro kinase assay?. I recently read that 
cyclosporin-cyclophilin A and FK506-FKBP have been found to inhibit PP2B but I 
do not know how successful these immunosuppressant drugs would be in my assay 
system. Does anyone out there have any ideas or previos experience of these 
or possible other PP2B inhibitors?.
Cheers,
Mandy.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Feb 17 22:00:00 1994
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From: genecutl@mendel.berkeley.edu (gc)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Specificity of antibodies for Conformation
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In article <2juc7i$7b3@news.bu.edu>, pfoster@bu.edu (Patricia Foster)
wrote:

> [ Article crossposted from bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts ]
> [ Author was Patricia Foster ]
> [ Posted on 17 Feb 1994 00:00:27 GMT ]
> 
> Dear Netters,
>   We have to decide whether to have antibodies raised
> against our already purified denatured protein, or to
> try to purify it under native conditions.  So, how
> likely is it that polyclonal antibodies raised 
> against a denatured protein will immunoabsorb the
> native form of the protein, or a complex of it with
> other proteins, in a cell lysate?
> Thanks,
> Pat
> --
> Patricia L. Foster
> Boston University School of Medicine
> Boston, MA USA
> pfoster@bu.edu



In the experience of my lab, it varies a lot.  Some polyclonals are great
for westerns and can't immunoprecipitate anything, while others are the
reverse, and some can do both.  All of our antibodies are raised against
denatured proteins.  It seems to be the luck of the draw.  Inject enought
rabbits and you'll get the antibodies you want.




-- 
--gc

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We recently have learned that university material grant
programs are available as a means of making donations.

We want to donate filtration equipment to these material grants,
especially to bio-technology groups within the university 
communities, in celebration of our thirty fifth anniversary.
We would also consider non-profit foundations other than universities which have material grant operations.

Unfortunately, our order service people don't know any of the 
details about the material grant programs or who to contact.
You could be of help to us and to your departments.

Please send your responses to Dr. James Camilleri at Gelman@ic.net.  Please indicate the names of people we should contact about material grants.  If your department would like to be included on a materials grant, please let us know so that we might offer free merchandise specifically to you.

Thank you.

Charles Gelman
Chairman and Chield Executive Officer


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From: DSCT@BPHVAX.BIOPHYSICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (DAVID SCOTT)
Subject: Re: Mac-compatable flatbed scanners and software for 2-D ana
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In <2k2ufrINNks@dns1.NMSU.Edu> mwaugh@crl.nmsu.edu writes:

> Does anyone have any experience with Mac-compatable flatbed scanners
> and software for scanning autoradiographs of 2-D gels? Our lab-net
> includes PC's, Mac's and a remote-mounted Sun station, but the machine
> we want to hang the scanner off of is a Mac. We have downloaded a 2-D
> manipulation and analysis program from CERN (Melanie) which runs in the
> Unix world and is accessable to the Macs through eXodus X-windows. The
> problem now is finding a reasonably priced (<$2000) fairly high
> resolution flatbed scanner with software that will allow thresholding
> and will provide 256 levels of grayscale reproducibly. If anyone has
> any experience with Mac scanners, especially in conjunction with
> scanning autorads, please respond either in this news group or feel
> free to send me e-mail at: 
>         
>                              mwaugh@crl.nmsu.edu
>    
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

You want to look for a program called NIH-Image, that only runs on macs.
It is available for free by FTP from the NIH at zippy.nimh.nih.gov
[128.231.98.32]
 There is a list that discusses nih-image that can
be subscribed to from listserv@soils.umn.edu. It supports a variety of
flat bed scanners, and may do the analysis you want.
		-Gavin Fischer
		University of Rochester Cancer Center

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Hi,


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Feb 17 22:00:00 1994
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Hello Netters,
Can anybody help me understand the difference between coiled coils and
supercoils?   I believe, the alpha helical coiled coils is a result of
packing interactions between parallel or antiparallel or relatively
staggered axes.  It must be something analogous to the twisted beta
sheets then. What are those supercoils? I might be wrong. Pl.help me.

--Geetha.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Feb 17 22:00:00 1994
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From: ltaylor@peptidarus.UWaterloo.ca (Lorne Taylor)
Subject: REPOST: PD Distance Geometry Software?? 
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	Greetings
 
	Sorry if this is a FAQ - Is there a public domain, net 
retrievable distance geometry package (suitable for protein NMR)??

		Cheers

		Lorne

		ltaylor@peptidarus.uwaterloo.ca


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Feb 17 22:00:00 1994
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wqc@hood.caltech.edu (Wangqin Chen) writes:


>How do I access to the SWISS:PROT protein sequence data base? If anybody 
>knows, please help! Thank.

Okay, here's 1 sample for each of 4 popular access methods

E-mail:	retrieve@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov 
FTP:	ncbi.nlm.nih.gov	/repository
gopher:	ftp.bio.indiana.edu
WWW:	http://expasy.hcuge.ge

(Note:  I don't have the paths fully specified for the last 3, but
        what I specified gets you within sight of the goal)

Enjoy!

Keith Robison
Harvard University
Department of Cellular and Developmental Biology
Department of Genetics / HHMI

krobison@nucleus.harvard.edu 




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Subject: prions
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I think this is the right newsgroup for this...

I was just wondering if anybody had any information on prions.
They are pure protein viruses, no nucleic acids. I don't even need all facts I
would love to read theories on their reproduction etc...

you can either post or email me at

kitten@wpi.wpi.edu

thanx...

jen

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Feb 19 22:00:00 1994
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From: mwadhwa@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Manpreet S Wadhwa)
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hi netters,

i have been working with polylysine in some of my experiments. I generally
dissolve the polylysine (hydrobromide) in deionized water and keep aliquots
of the concentrated stock solution (50mg/ml) in the freezer. My working
solution is 4mg/ml and this i keep either in the freezer, or sometimes
refrigerated at 4 degrees (when in regular use).

The label on the sigma bottle for polylysine says "Dessicate" and
"Store at less than 0 degree C". I've been wondering lately if the
dessication requirement is only to avoid hygroscopicity (which would
change the weight of the powder), or is there a stability issue involved?

Provided that there are no proteases swimming around, is there any problem
in storing the polylysine in the way i am? (probably shouldn't be, given
the stability of amide bonds...)

please email me any comments, or post here.

thanks,
/manpreet s. wadhwa

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Feb 19 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: Longest Protein Sequences
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Does anyone have references for the following:

(a) Longest viral protein sequenced to date

(b) Shortest viral protein sequenced to date

(c) Longest non-viral protein sequenced to date

(d) Shortest non-viral protein sequenced to date

(e) Consensus data for (a), (b), (c), and (d)
Edwin Wright
85 Spinnaker Drive, A-602
Halifax, Nova Scotia
CANADA B3N 3E3

Telephone: (902) 477-5037

Email: ewright@fox.nstn.ns.ca
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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From: ps44@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (Pavel Sova)
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Keywords: GST fusion proteins

In article <1994Feb18.014008.4188@midway.uchicago.edu>,
Bob Litt <rjl4@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>I am having trouble binding a GST fusion protein to a glutathione
>column.  I am attempting to purify fusion proteins with Ypt1, a yeast
>GTP binding protein.  I have succesfully purified the wild-type
>protein and two different mutants of this protein using fusions to
>GST.  My third mutant (which is, of course, the most interesting)
>expresses at high levels in E. coli (checked by Western) at similar
>levels to the wild-type Ypt1 fusion.  The protein is soluble (not in
>inclusion bodies).  This troublesome GST fusion does not bind well to
>the glutathione column.  This troublesome fusion protein binds 20
>times less than the analogous wild-type fusion protein.  My yields are
>abysmal.  I need more protein.  I have tried:
>
---stuff deleted---

>I am at a loss.  Has anyone ever had similar problems with GST
>fusions, or heard of similar problems?  

Yes, I've just encountered the same problem. My fusion protein of GST with 
vif (of HIV) doesn't bind to glutathione-sepharose, although, under the 
same conditions and in parallel, I get strong binding (->band on 
SDS-PAGE) of plain GST.

My thought was that addition of another piece of protein to GST distorts 
its structure and binding capacity to glutathione. But your system is 
somewhat different - how similar are those mutant alleles?

So far, I figured to try to transform different strain of bacteria (JM109 
instead of DH5alfa) and perhaps to play a little with incubation 
temperature (should affect solubility and maybe conformation?) and 
detergents (those may affect conformation, either - although you've tried 
it).

>
>Any and all help is greatly appreciatted.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Bob Litt
>  ER   | Bob Litt (rjl4@midway.uchicago.edu) 

Sorry I couldn't help you. I will also appreciate any help of general 
public. 

Thanks in advance,
 Pavel Sova = ps44@columbia.edu| Molecular Virology Laboratory|
 Columbia University| New York



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From: pxu@wsuaix (Pin Xu)
Subject: remove polysaccharide from protein prep?
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Greating,

Could anyone tell me how to separate protein from soluble polysaccharide?
Recently I tried to purify a protein from 100,000 g supernatant of pollen
homogenate by ammonium sulfate precipitation. However, it seems that 
protein can be co-precipitated by polysaccharide (or liopsaccharide?).

Please send your kind reply to me via e-mail: pxu@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu

Thanks,

p. xu

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From: martin@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Martin)
Subject: Info on sequence entries
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I wish to extract the sequences of a few hundred antibodies from one of the
sequence databases, but also need to know the antigen to which each binds
(if known). Does anyone know if any of the sequence databases include this
level of information, or will I simply have to take the reference from each
entry and spend a week in the library looking them up?

All suggestions welcome!

Andrew


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 20 22:00:00 1994
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From: Bill Nowatzke <wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Floating Amm.SO4 ppts.
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I have seen this same problem- getting a flocculant mess even after 20kXg
spin. I deanted as much as I could without too much protein loss and
respun at 40k X g. The reulting pellet was firm enough to separate from
the amm sulfate sup, but I am wondering are there cautious limits to
consider when collecting protein ppt? I wasn't able to resuspend all of
the ppt (fine particles) upon dialyzing.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 20 22:00:00 1994
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From: wolfgang@atkins.swb.de (Wolfgang Sachs)
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Subject: looking for pdb description of proteases
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Hi bionet'ers,

can anyone send me descriptions of 3d structures of proteases in the pdb
file format?

I have to give a talk about the "structure - function relationship" and
I want to display the 3d structures of some enzymes to show the catalytic
site, so I can talk about the mechanism more vivid.

I want to structure my talk according to the classes of proteases:

	Serine proteases:
		Chymotrypsin A
		Trypsin (EC 3.4.21.4)
		Thrombin
		Factor X
		Plasmin
		Elastase

	Cysteine proteases:
		Papain (EC 3.4.22.2)
		Calpain
		Cathepsins B, H, L and S

	Aspartic proteases:
		Pepsin
		Cathepsin D
		Chymosin (EC 3.4.23.4)
		Penicillopepsin (EC 3.4.23.6)
		Renin (EC 3.4.99.19)

	Metallo-proteases:
		Thermolysin (EC 3.4.24.4)
		Bovine Carboxypeptidase A (EC 3.4.17.1)


Does anybody have any hints...yes I'm actually doing literature-search ;-)
Since I have to do the talk next week and have no account at the university
I cannot download, ftp or even search via gophers and WWW. And since I
don't know the exact names I even can't question the archie-servers :-|

So I depend on you kindness...if you have apropriate material and are
willing to help a fellow student..please send it to me...

Thank you very much for the work _I_ cause _you_ to do...

Wolfgang Sachs
-- 
Wolfgang Sachs, Neckarstr. 25, D-64390 Erzhausen, Germany
Voice: +49 6150 82882  Domain: Wolfgang@atkins.swb.{de | sub.org}


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Feb 20 22:00:00 1994
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From: parmentf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Parmentier Fabrice)
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Subject: problems with inclusions bodies
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Hi netters,

Recently I did a construction using the GST gene fusion system with a hydrophobic peptide of 40 amino acids. This fusion protein was well expressed in E.Coli but was unfortunately associated with the pellet fraction and probably localized in inclusion bodies. I have tried to alter the growth conditions of the bacteria but in each case the fusion protein still associated with the pellet fraction. I have tried to solubilize the inclusion bodies of the pellet fraction with: CHAPS 1%, Triton X-100,1%, urea or Gn-HCl and every time the fusion protein is still present in the pellet fraction. I could try a more drastic treatment of this fraction. However, I will need to purify the fusion protein with glutathione Sepharose 4B beads.

Any suggestions or comments are appreciated

Isabelle Lemire
parmentf@ere.umontreal.ca
 



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In article <2k34sp$ojl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> kitten@wpi.edu (Kitten) writes:
>
>I think this is the right newsgroup for this...
>
>I was just wondering if anybody had any information on prions.
>They are pure protein viruses, no nucleic acids. I don't even need all facts I
>would love to read theories on their reproduction etc...
>
>you can either post or email me at
>
>kitten@wpi.wpi.edu
>
>thanx...
>
>jen

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Subject: Re: prions
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From: R.Burge@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk (Richard Burge)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:20:28
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In article <2k34sp$ojl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> kitten@wpi.edu (Kitten) writes:
>I was just wondering if anybody had any information on prions.
>They are pure protein viruses, no nucleic acids. I don't even need all facts I
>would love to read theories on their reproduction etc...

Check out the following paper for a general review. It should be a pointer to 
some of the key papers:

Weissmann, Charles - Molecular Biology of Prion Diseases. Trends in Cell 
Biology Jan 94 v4 no.1, pp10-14.


I hope this helps,



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From: ming@ahabs.wisc.edu (Ding Ming)
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Subject: Re: Floating Amm.SO4 ppts.
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In article <CLLno5.Fz5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, Bill Nowatzke
<wnowatzk@ucs.indiana.edu> wrote:

> I have seen this same problem- getting a flocculant mess even after 20kXg
> spin. I deanted as much as I could without too much protein loss and
> respun at 40k X g. The reulting pellet was firm enough to separate from
> the amm sulfate sup, but I am wondering are there cautious limits to
> consider when collecting protein ppt? I wasn't able to resuspend all of
> the ppt (fine particles) upon dialyzing.

I have seen this problem too and the solution I figured out finally was to
let it stay under 4 degree  o/n and the fine fluff will coagulate together.
The higher saturation of amm sulfate, the longer staying under cold!! The
additional common problem is that protein ppt. may form foam floating on
the surface of the sup if you add in solid ammsulfate and this kind of foam
won't dissipate ever you spin it in high speed. The solution is that you
either to vaccum it a little bit before the spin or add a drop of octanol.

It is interesting to learn that you cannot dissolve the fine fluffy
particles and maybe the protein ppt is not soluble in your dialyzing
buffer(water?). Did you try to dissolve it in salt solution?

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Ding Ming                           Telephone: (608)265-3544
University of Wisconsin-Madison          Fax: (608)262-7420

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From: sandy@nmr1.pt.cyanamid.COM (Sandy Silverman)
Subject: Re: homology, identity....
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I think it is best to reserve the word "homology" for evolutionary relation-
ships and similarity/identity % for molecular look-alikes.
--
Sanford Silverman                      >Opinions expressed here are my own<
American Cyanamid  
sandy@pt.cyanamid.com, silvermans@pt.cyanamid.com     "Yeast is Best"

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dear colleagues,

I would like to have your point of view on the problem of sequence 
homology, sequence similarity and percent identity.

When I align two related proteins with Gap or Bestfit in the GCG package,
the % identity and % similarity vary between about 35 to 50 % identity.
This percentage obviously depends of the gap parameters chosen for this 
alignment. OK

I would like to know what is the best thing to do to quantify the alignment
is it better to give a range for the % identity or is it better to give
% identity for different sections of the 2 proteins ?
Same questions for homology and/or similarity ?

I should be happy to get clear definitions on homology, similarity
and identity percentages

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

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Thierry MOREAU
URA CNRS 1334
Laboratoire d'Enzymologie et Chimie des Proteines 
TOURS  France

Email: moreaut@univ-tours.fr

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From: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw (Meng-Juei Hsieh)
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Hello there, 

      Is there anyone doing research on this topic ,
" inhibitor of topoisomerase II " ?

      I am a newbie in this field. It would be great if
you tell me some infomation about this topic....

:)
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From: gjb@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Geoff Barton)
Subject: Protein Prediction Preprint
Message-ID: <1994Feb16.131627.3051@geoff.bioch.ox.ac.uk>
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Xref: biosci bionet.general:7893 bionet.molbio.proteins:1409 bionet.software:7319



PROTEIN PREDICTION PREPRINT AVAILABLE BY FTP

PROTEIN TYROSINE PHOSPHATASE
BLOOD CLOTTING FACTOR XIIIa

16 Feb 1994

We are making available by ftp a preprint of our paper entitled:

"Secondary Structure Prediction from Multiple Sequence Data: Blood
Clotting Factor XIII and Yersinia Protein-Tyrosine Phosphatase"

by Craig D. Livingstone and Geoffrey J. Barton

This paper will appear in due course in the International Journal of
Peptide and Protein Research.  However, this will take some time to
happen and we are anxious that our predictions are available to the community 
prior to publication of crystal structures for members of either protein
family.  

We were unable to include the full details of the predictions and
alignments in the short IJPPR account.  We are making these availble
on our ftp server geoff.biop.ox.ac.uk.  Please see the README file in
/preprints/ptp_factor13.

Be warned that some of the files are quite large - for those who access
using a Unix system, you can download a compressed tar file that contains 
the preprint and all data and is called Everything.tar.Z.    All other files
should be transferred as text.

Most of the files are in PostScript and should be printable on any
PostScript printer.

Geoffrey J. Barton and Craig D. Livingstone
Laboratory of Molecular Biophysics
University of Oxford
Rex Richards Building
South Parks Road
Oxford OX1 3QU
U.K.





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From: pxu@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Pin Xu)
Subject: Re: Floating Amm.SO4 ppts.
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Duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk (Duncan Clark) writes:
: Hi Netters,
: 
: Does anyone know why one sometimes gets Amm.SO4 ppts of proteins that float
: rather than pellet? Is there anyway to get preps that do this to pellet? In 
: my case the prep is E.coli, sonicated, spun down, addition of polymin P (to
: ppt nucleic acids) plus 0.2M NaCl (to keep my protein in solution) and the
: ppt spun down and the supernatant kept. Addition of Amm.SO4 to 70%, left O/N
: at 4C then spun at 50,000g. Floating pellicle. Why?


Is your "protein" gel-like? Does it swell in water? I tried to purify
proteins from pollen and I also got floating gel-like stuff-- most of this
are (lipo-)polysaccharides I think.


: 
: Thanks
: 
: Duncan
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