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Protein Design: From Experiments To Computers

18-22 July 1994, El Escorial, Espan~a

"Curso de Verano de la Universidad Complutense"

Lectures:
18th, De novo protein design
      L. Regan (Yale), A. Tramontano (IRBM, Roma)
19th, Protein Engineering
      L. Serrano (EMBL, Heidelberg), F. Gago (U. Alcala), F.X. Aviles (U. Autonoma, Barcelona)
19th, Tools for protein design
      C. Sander (EMBL, Heidelberg)
21th, Sequence-Structure space
      A. Valencia (EMBL, Heidelberg), C. Orengo (University College, London), C. Ouzounis (EMBL, Heidelberg)
22th, Computational approaches to struture determination
      A. Rey (U. Complutense), I. Fita (U. Politecnica Catalunya, CSIC)

Round tables:
19th, Prospects in protein engineering
21th, Biologia Estructural en Espana

Practicals:
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Application forms from: CURSOS DE VERANO, c) Donoso Cortes 63
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On 2 Jun 1994, Soheil Seyed Mahmoud wrote:

> I have a protein fused to GST (part of P-GEX bacterial expression
> vectors).  The fusion protein forms inclusion bodies when
> expressed in E.coli.  I am having problems solubilizing the
> protein in a stable form. This means I can solubilize it in
> solutions like 8M urea but, as I dialyze the urea out the
> proteins go back to precipitated form. Any ideas about my
> problem?  Thanks in advance. 
> Soheil S. Mahmoud
> 

You can try sarcosyl
Good luck

See: Frankel et al., PNAS, February, 1991, vol. 88 pp. 1192-1196.
Frangioni and Neel, Anal. Biochem., 210, pp 179-187.


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In article: <2siir3$5gg@nic.umass.edu>  ECANTOR@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (ERIC J CANTOR) writes:
> 
> Hello. I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a good resource for info
> about the physical volume that the different amino acids fill. I have heard 
> this property called the "residue volume". I am especially interested in the 
> van der waals radius of the different side chains. I have looked in "typical"
> sources such as the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" as well as the 
> "Handbook of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology" but have been unsuccessful.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> 
> 

This is an interesting request - I wonder what you are trying to do ?

One good reason that you may be having difficulty is that the volume occupied
by a residue in a protein will vary with the conformation in which the 
amino acid occurs (because the van der Waals radii of the atoms in the sidechain
overlap to a greater or lesser extent depending on conformation).  

As to the choice of van der Waals radii for the atoms of the sidechains, this will 
make quite a bit of difference to any calculation you want to make.  Unfortunately
since it is not always clear what the radii should of the hard sphere used to
represent each atom, there are several lists of atomic radii for protein atoms
available.  The best I can suggest is that the values in the Richards paper 
(Richards, F.M. (1977) Ann. Rev. Biophys. Bioeng., 6, 151-176) and the Connolly 
paper (Connolly, M.L., (1983) J. Appl. Cryst., 16, 548-558) are widely used in the 
calculation of accessible surface area, which is a somewhat similar problem.

Steve Gardner


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OK, here's the summary for PURIFICATION OF A SMALL PEPTIDE. Be warned
that its a long message...
	Here's the original posting:

 
>I have a peptide query:

>	I'm trying to isolate a peptide about 1000 to 1500 Da (best guess)
>and probably cyclic. Initial purification steps are: acid precipitation
>(very inefficient) followed by ion exchange chromatography (which
>works well). I want to make polyclonals against the peptide and need
>more purification steps so I've set up a gel filtration column. Now I
>need to concentrate the sample before loading the column. The sample is
>about 20 ml in volume and contains approx 0.4M NaCl and 10 mM Tris buffer
>pH 7.5. The peptide is reasonably easy to produce, so we can tolerate 
>some loss.
>	
>	We're considering trying: 

>1) Ultrafiltration (but can't find any appropriate columns)
>2) Ammonium sulphate precipitation (the peptide appears to be quite soluble)
>3) Phenol (will the peptide go into the phenol? and how do we get it back?)
>4) ?????

>Thanks for any suggestions or protocols...

___________________________________________________________________________
Keith Rickert <keith@imppig.caltech.edu>

Um...with peptides this size, you dont need to keep them in buffered saline
solutions, at least most of them you dont. We routinely purify peptides
of about this weight via rather more chemical means - 
reverse phase HPLC, solid-phase extraction, trituation from methanol
with ether, etc.
I'd suggest using something like SPE for desalting, then lyophilize
away the solvent (probably mostly water, some methanol or acetonitrile),
then retake up the solid in the relevant buffer solution.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From John E. Fox <altabios@bham.ac.uk>

How about trying the following:-
1. Initial clean up by ultrafiltration instead of acid precipitation. 
This should give better recovery.
2.  Purify by HPLC on a reverse phase column e.g. Vydac using
gradient of water/MeCN with 0.05% TFA.
3. This should give peptide without any salts.
4. If you want to keep the ion exchange, try removing salts with
a small column of Sephadex G10. 

You could also concentrate on a Sep-Pak column.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Markwell  <markwell@unlinfo.unl.edu>

Jeff,
I would suggest that you might try a C-18 cartridge-type filter at 
this point.  With your sample containing a lot of salt, binding should
be no problem.  Then try lowering the salt and elute in sometihing 
like 95% water:5% acetonitrile:0.1% TFA.  This can be done with a 
syringe and does not need an HPLC.  Try increasing the proportion of 
acetonitrile until your peptide elutes.  We have used this with basic 
peptides and phosphopeptides with much success.  Our proteins elute at
about 50% acetonitrile.  We use the Maxi-Clean cartridges from 
Alltech, but they are available from a variety of companies.  THe 
solvent is then removed from the eluted sample in a speedvac.

I hope this helps
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris  <cdcilley@oxytricha.mit.edu> 

If you can find a dialysis membrane that is small enough (they have
1000 MWCO, I believe) put your 20mls into a bag and lay it on dry
PEG-8000 wrapped in Saran Wrap and foil.  Pop it into the fridge for
a few hours and let the PEG suck out the water.  Not sure what it'll
do in terms of the salt, but you could always just then dialyze it
against some buffer for your next step.

Why not use HPLC?  If it is that small, you might be able to take
advantage of a size-exclusion column or C18...

Have fun,
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stephen Lister  <litster@acs.ucalgary.ca>  

Jeff,
Have you tried putting the peptide/buffer soln. in dialysis
tubing (MWCO 1000 or lower), then placing the bag into a 18% PEG
8000/buffer soln. The PEG decreases the volume in the bag within
a few hours. This method works a treat on my protein from
0.01mg/ml to 12mg/ml within 8 hours.

Good Luck,

Steve.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Rasmussen  <emrasmus@biobase.aau.dk> 

Jeff 

What about hydrophobic interaction chromatography (HIC) or RPHPLC.
You could try:
Precipitation
Ion exchange elution with (NH4)2SO4
HIC elution with (NH4)2SO4
RPHPLC on a C4-column

I have only tried this with a protein about 50kD.

========================================================================

Looks like reverse phase HPLC is the way to go! I'll probably do that
eventually; currently using a g-15 column though. Thanks for all of the
input, there were some other messages to but only reiterations of the 
above. Thanks, 

	Jeff



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Hi Folks,
I am working on a protein with a molecular weight of 320kD and routinely do 
Westerns to probe for this protein.  My concern however is that I use both 
Bio-rad and Sigma Broad range markers of which the largest protein is rabbit 
skeletal muscle myosin which has a mwt of 200kD, and so when it comes to 
determining the mwt I have to extrapolate back to determine the molecular 
weight which isn't terribly accurate!. I am therefore looking for a protein 
with a mwt greater than 300kD that I can add to my markers.  Does anyone know 
of a commercially available protein that has a mwt greater than 300kD I could 
add to my markers.  Alternatively do you know of prepared mwt markers that I 
could buy that have greater range.  Cheers.

Mandy.



_______________
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King's College, London.

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In order to determine if the molecule I am interested in is a peptide,
I would like to determine if protease digestion will abolish activity.
I have tried digesting my crude (animal tissue) homogenate with 1 mg/ml
pronase (24 hr, room temperature), but this enzyme alone does not
completely digest all proteins to amino acids.  Can anyone suggest
a protease or combination of proteases which will do the job?

Thanks,
-Beth Schomer

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On 2 Jun 1994, Soheil Seyed Mahmoud wrote:

> I have a protein fused to GST (part of P-GEX bacterial expression
> vectors).  The fusion protein forms inclusion bodies when
> expressed in E.coli.  I am having problems solubilizing the
> protein in a stable form. This means I can solubilize it in
> solutions like 8M urea but, as I dialyze the urea out the
> proteins go back to precipitated form. Any ideas about my
> problem?  Thanks in advance. 
> Soheil S. Mahmoud
> 
> 
	You choiced a bad fusion protein ssince it seem that it is 
interacting with your protein in a way that the folded fused hibrid 
protein retains a lot of hydrophobic residues at the surface. I'm not 
sure on what to do but I supose you have two alteernatives:
	1. change your fussion protein. 
	2. try to chemically break the bond between the fussion protein 
and your protein in an enviroment where your hibrid is denaturated.

	These are my oppinions. I may say that I don't work with this.


Rafael Najmanovich

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I have a protein fused to GST (part of P-GEX bacterial expression
vectors).  The fusion protein forms inclusion bodies when
expressed in E.coli.  I am having problems solubilizing the
protein in a stable form. This means I can solubilize it in
solutions like 8M urea but, as I dialyze the urea out the
proteins go back to precipitated form. Any ideas about my
problem?  Thanks in advance. 
Soheil S. Mahmoud

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 01 23:00:00 1994
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Hia, 
Anyone know a fast method for chemically crosslinking proteins....i.e. within 
seconds????Most methods appear to take minutes. Needed for a kinetic study.

yours in anticipation,

Dave Scott.

p.s. already got the gluteraldeyhde method on LDH from 1981

gends%south-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk@gps.leeds.ac.uk
or
scott@uk.ac.leeds.bio.vax

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In article <2siir3$5gg@nic.umass.edu>, ECANTOR@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (ERIC J CANTOR) writes:
|> Hello. I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a good resource for info
|> about the physical volume that the different amino acids fill. I have heard 
|> this property called the "residue volume". I am especially interested in the 
|> van der waals radius of the different side chains. I have looked in "typical"
|> sources such as the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" as well as the 
|> "Handbook of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology" but have been unsuccessful.
|> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
|> 

	I found this somewhere via WWW and can't remember where.  Even more
disturbing than that, I haven't been able to relocate it using a hopefully
similar search paradigm that yielded the original.  I therefore reproduced it
with the reference below: (If it is garbled I will send by e-mail).

 
RESIDUE		SYMBOL SYMBO	LMASS(Da)	VOLUME(A3)            

ALANINE		ALA	A	 71.09		 67
ARGININE	ARG	R	156.19		148
ASPARAGINE 	ASN	N	114.11		 96
ASPARTATE	ASP	D	115.09		 91
CYSTEINE	CYS	C	103.15		 86
GLUTAMATE	GLU	E	129.12		109
GLUTAMINE	GLN	Q	128.14		114
GLYCINE		GLY	G	 57.05		 48
HISTIDINE	HIS	H	137.14		118
ISOLEUCINE 	ILE	I	113.16		124
LEUCINE		LEU	L	113.16		124
LYSINE		LYS	K	128.17		135
METHIONINE 	MET	M	131.19		124
PHENYLALANINE	PHE	F	147.18		135
PROLINE		PRO	P	 97.12		 90
SERINE		SER	S	 87.08		 73
THREONINE	THR	T	101.11		 93
TRYPTOPHAN 	TRP	W	186.21		163
TYROSINE	TYR	Y	163.18		141
VALINE		VAL	V	 99.14		105

Data after Table 1.1 from T. E. Creighton, Proteins, 2nd ed.,
W. H. Freeman and Company, New York, 1993.

norman eberhardt
eberhardt@mayo.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 01 23:00:00 1994
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On Jun 1,  9:48am, RAMPITSCH@BCRSSU.AGR.CA wrote:
> Subject: 1000 Da marker required
> Hi: just a quick question. I'm looking for MW markers
> to calibrate a G-15 column; I've used polymyxin (1280 Da),
> bacitracin (1400 Da) and bromo cresol green (700 Da). Something
> in the 1000 Da range would be nice. We can't find any
> bradykinin (1050 Da). Any ideas??
> 	BTW thanks to all of you who responded to the "small
> peptide blues query"; is there enough interest for me to make a
> summary and post it?
----- Yes, please do ----
>
> 	Jeff
>-- End of excerpt from RAMPITSCH@BCRSSU.AGR.CA

What is the objective of the calibration?  Are you trying to measure
the MW of an unknown protein?  If so, aren't you concerned that in
this MW range the approximations and assumptions involved in going
from elution volume (oops - I meant "time") to size to MW are very
shaky?  There are other methods available for MW determination that
might be more appropriate for this system.



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I urgently need suggestions for commercial protein sequencing laboratories
which you have found to provide good results with low to average amounts of
protein (~10 pmol)

Many thanks,
Peter.
(worried MSc student)

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In article <1994Jun3.162122.29268@waikato.ac.nz>, pjc@waikato.ac.nz (Peter Charlton) says:
>
>I urgently need suggestions for commercial protein sequencing laboratories
>which you have found to provide good results with low to average amounts of
>protein (~10 pmol)
>
>Many thanks,
>Peter.
>(worried MSc student)


I run a core laboratory which among other things, includes protein sequencing.
Our record is 10 amino acids off 800 femtomole of sample, although this is at the extreme
edge of the technique when using an ABI 473.
We can work with either free proteins or blots on PVDF. Just give the blots a light stain
with amido black or similar.
We run the sequencing to GLP (Good laboratory practice) standards

Director Dr. John Fox
tel  UK  021 414 5450
fax UK  021 414 3376
Email   altabios@uk.ac.bham

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Do somebody know how can I find the aminoacid sequence of pectin methyl esteras
es from different sources?           Thanks Martin. E-mail:
                                                    ernesto@vm.cc.purdue.edu

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Jun 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: tobin@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Greg Tobin)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Total Digest of Proteins
Message-ID: <Cqu05n.C9E@ncifcrf.gov>
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A poster is studying a catalytic activity and wants to digest proteins
with a protease to determine whether this activity is associated with
a protein or not.

Let's assume that the activity is associated with either a protein, DNA or 
RNA molecule (probably not DNA).  Digestion with Proteinase K should 
abolish most of the activity of a protein.  However, prions were originally
isolated from Proteinase K digested culture cells.  Phenol extraction should
remove proteins not covalently linked to nucleic acids.  The material 
can then be ethanol precipitated prior to assay.  Most RNA molecules are very sesensitive to RNAae A digestion.  Repeated heating and cooling should
relax some of the RNAse-resistent secondary structures to permit
additional digestion.  RNA is also alkaline-sensitive.

The original poster (Beth Schomer) should give us some more details concerning
the origin of the molecule and the putative activity.  We could then
give more relevant assistance.


-- 
Greg Tobin, Ph.D.                        tobin@lcms-1.ncifcrf.gov
LCMS 
PO Box B
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Jun 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Total Digest of Proteins
Date: 3 Jun 94 15:02:12 GMT
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In <1994Jun3.110642.171259@eros.embl-heidelberg.de> houthaeve@embl-heidelberg.de (Tony Houthaeve) writes:

>In article <2sl5i3$r02@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, hkibak@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henrik Kibak) writes:
>> In order to determine if the molecule I am interested in is a peptide,
>> I would like to determine if protease digestion will abolish activity.
>> I have tried digesting my crude (animal tissue) homogenate with 1 mg/ml
>> pronase (24 hr, room temperature), but this enzyme alone does not
>> completely digest all proteins to amino acids.  Can anyone suggest
>> a protease or combination of proteases which will do the job?
>> 

>If you want to know whether you really have a peptide/protein, make an
>Amino Acid Analysis. By hydrolyzing 1 h at 156 d C 'every' peptidebond
>breaks and by subsequent analysis you might even determine which amino
>acids are really in the peptide.
>Good Luck
>Tony Houthaeve
>EMBL-Heidelberg

Maybe its the temp?
We routinely digest corn kernel samples.
I use pronase at 1 mg/ml. but do it at 37 to 40 degrees C.  I put it in
0.1 N phosphate buffer, pH 7.6.  Pronase still is active after 48h in case you
want to react longer.  I use a mixture of nystatin and erythromycin to control
microbes.

I have also found that thermolysin at 0.25 mg/ml at 47 to 50 C for 48 hours
followed by pronase as described above for, say 72 hours does a really good 
job.

If you can agitate the solution during proteolysis, so much the better.

BTW I would like to learn of any other tips, experiences.

Allen






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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Jun 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: houthaeve@embl-heidelberg.de (Tony Houthaeve)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Total Digest of Proteins
Message-ID: <1994Jun3.110642.171259@eros.embl-heidelberg.de>
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In article <2sl5i3$r02@nntp2.Stanford.EDU>, hkibak@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henrik Kibak) writes:
> In order to determine if the molecule I am interested in is a peptide,
> I would like to determine if protease digestion will abolish activity.
> I have tried digesting my crude (animal tissue) homogenate with 1 mg/ml
> pronase (24 hr, room temperature), but this enzyme alone does not
> completely digest all proteins to amino acids.  Can anyone suggest
> a protease or combination of proteases which will do the job?
> 

If you want to know whether you really have a peptide/protein, make an
Amino Acid Analysis. By hydrolyzing 1 h at 156 d C 'every' peptidebond
breaks and by subsequent analysis you might even determine which amino
acids are really in the peptide.

Good Luck

Tony Houthaeve
EMBL-Heidelberg


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Jun 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: babcock@mbcl.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Nucleic Acid Structure Analysis Program Release
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Please: if you know someone who can use the program, forward a copy of this
message to them.

ANNOUNCING THE RELEASE OF A PROGRAM WHICH ANALYSES NUCLEIC ACID
CRYSTALLOGRAPHIC COORDINATE DATA ACCORDINATE TO THE EMBO GUIDELINES
OF 1988.

This program can be used to analyze the nucleic acid part of a protein-NA
co-crystal.

	Several years ago, the European Molecular Biology Organization
published guidelines defining how nucleic acid duplex structures can
be examined. The guidelines defined three rotational and three translational
parameters between the bases comprising a base pair as well as from one base
pair to the next. There are five programs readily distributed in order to
perform the calculations. We are releasing a sixth which was created to be
able to handle not only the calculations of normal duplexes, but also
comparably examine mispaired bases, hoogstein base pairs, looped out bases,
a single base adjacent to a base pair, intercalated drugs for which a
coordinate frame has been defined, etc.

	The nucleic acid structure analysis program is written in Fortran and
runs in a UNIX or VMS environment (please specify preference). The program
calculates all of the rotational and translational parameters for complementary
base pairs, neighboring base pairs in Cartesian and helical coordinate frames,
and base to base Cartesian and helical parameters along each strand. A simple
interactive user interface allows for one to specify what file is examined and
which parameters to calculate. The program was designed so that the user needs
to spend a minimal time reading the documentation in order for the program to
run. Full disclosure of the mathematics has been made and published so that the
user can readily understand what their parameters mean. 

	The mathematics are unique for this type of calculation and aviod many
of the problems previously encountered. In particular, the calculations are
performed by a single rotation not sequential rotations avoiding the use of a
midway coordinate frame for rotational parameter calculations. This ensures
that the magnitude of the rotational parameters is strand free and direction
free. Because a single rotation is used, the equations for each rotational
parameter are equivalent, therefore, a 5 degree rotation about the X axis is
equivalent to a 5 degree rotation about either the Y or the Z axis. This is not
always true of other mathematical formulations presently being used. The
mathematics used for calculating the complementary base parameters is identical
to the math used to calculate the neighboring base/base pair parameters except
that different axes are involved. This is not generally the case of the other
available programs. In addition, since the calculations are bases upon local
considerations, the value of the parameter depends on only the bases involved
and are independent of adjacent bases. This allows for more accurate comparison
of parameters from one structure to another. 

	Copies of the code can be acquired by e-mailing me at:

		Marla@Rutchm.Rutgers.edu.

					Dr. Marla Babcock
					Dept of Chemistry
					Rutgers University
					P.O. Box 939
					Piscataway, N.J. U.S.A 08855
				
Useful References:

A users guide to the programs is provided in the paper:

	Babcock, M.S., Pednault, E.P.D, and Olson, W.K., "Nucleic Acid
	Structure Analysis: A Users Guide to a Collection of New
	Analysis Programs," Journal of Biomolecular Structure and
	Dynamics, Vol. 11, No. 3, pp 597-628, 1993.

The issues surrounding the definition of nucleic acid structure
parameters and how we address these issues are discussed in:

	Babcock, M.S., and Olson, W.K., "A New Program for the
	Analysis of Nucleic Acid Structure Interpretation," in
	Computation of Biomolecular Structures: Achievements,
	Problems, and Perspectives, Soumpasis, D.M., and Jovin, T.M.,
	Eds., Springer-Verlag, Heidelberg, pp 65-85, 1993.

The mathematical definitions of the nucleic acid structure parameters
and the methods used to calculate them are presented in:

	Babcock, M.S., Pednault, E.P.D, and Olson, W.K., "Nucleic Acid
	Structure Analysis: Mathematics for Local Cartesian and
	Helical Structure Parameters That are Truly Comparable Between
	Structures," Journal of Molecular Biology, Vol. 237, 
	pp 125-156, 1994.

In order to take into account base-stacking effects and other physical
constraints, the mathematical definitions we have developed contain
parameters called "pivot points", which are the points about which the
bases in a structure buckle, propeller twist, and open.  The
statistical analyses that were performed to determine the optimum
positions of the pivot points are presented in:

	Babcock, M.S., and Olson, W.K., "The Effect of Mathematics and
	Coordinate System on Comparability and 'Dependencies' of
	Nucleic Acid Structure Parameters," Journal of Molecular
	Biology, Vol. 237, pp 98-125, 1994.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Jun 03 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!SPEEDY.COACADE.UV.MX!evargas
From: evargas@SPEEDY.COACADE.UV.MX (Enrique Vargas)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Ig-germline
Date: 4 Jun 1994 12:46:09 -0700
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Hi!


I am interested to obtain updated versions of directories of germline genes and pseudogenes of Ig-Vh and Ig-Vl for human and mouse (translated to aminoacids) like that published for Ig-Vh by Tomlinson et al. in J. Mol. Biol.  (1992) 227,776-798.
Does somebody could provide to me some or all of these  directories?

Thanks in advance,

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Jun 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: jfrank777@aol.com (JFrank777)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Stable Isotope Growth Mediums for Protein Structure Work
Date: 4 Jun 1994 04:46:03 -0400
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Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anybody had some suggestions on commercially
available stable isotope growth mediums. Are there any drawbacks we
should be aware of in using these mediums? We are planning on using
them in E.Coli cultures and mammalian cell cultures. Thanks.

J. Frank
UCSD

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: bspahh@midge.bath.ac.uk (A H Henry)
Subject: Re: Ig-germline
Message-ID: <CqyzDF.6L8@midge.bath.ac.uk>
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:51:14 GMT
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In the referenced article, evargas@SPEEDY.COACADE.UV.MX (Enrique Vargas) writes:
Hi!


>I am interested to obtain updated versions of directories of germline
>genes and pseudogenes of Ig-Vh and Ig-Vl for human and mouse
>(translated to aminoacids) like that published for Ig-Vh by Tomlinson
>et al. in J. Mol. Biol.  (1992) 227,776-798.  Does somebody could
>provide to me some or all of these  directories?

You can get the Kabat database of sequences by anonymous ftp from
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov in /repository/kabat.  It will take a bit of fiddling
to pull out the germline sequences as I don't think it is flagged in
the database.  Look for the sequences which stop just after the second
Cysteine.

I have got a file with the human VH germline sequences as quoted in the
Tomlinson paper.  I have sent these by e-mail.  The Tomlinson paper
didn't have anything about mouse sequences or VL sequences.  I'd be
interested in those if you find them.

I might as well put in a plug for a paper by our group in Bath
which had some analysis of the human VH germline sequences.
It was Pedersen et al., J. Mol. Biol. (1994), 235, 959-973.
Comparison of Surface Accessible Residues in Human and Murine
Immunoglobulin Fv Domains.


-- 
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A.H.Henry@bath.ac.uk   | Asked Questions v0.1 available by anonymous
University of Bath, UK | ftp at mgu.bath.ac.uk      _/Sempre  Gilles

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: vonrhein@bio6.chemie.uni-freiburg.de (Clemens Vonrhein)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: amino acid residue volumes
Date: 6 Jun 1994 12:25:43 GMT
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|> In article: <2siir3$5gg@nic.umass.edu>  ECANTOR@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (ERIC J CANTOR) writes:
|> > 
|> > Hello. I was wondering if anyone could direct me to a good resource for info
|> > about the physical volume that the different amino acids fill. I have heard 
|> > this property called the "residue volume". I am especially interested in the 
|> > van der waals radius of the different side chains. I have looked in "typical"
|> > sources such as the "Handbook of Chemistry and Physics" as well as the 
|> > "Handbook of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology" but have been unsuccessful.
|> > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
|> > 
|> > 
|> > 

Try M. Gerstein, E.L.L.Sonnhammer & C.Chothia (1994), J. Mol. Bio. 236,
1067-1078

Clemens


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* D-79104 Freiburg i.Br., Germany				*
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: bjd12@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ben Davis)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Stable Isotope Growth Mediums for Protein Structure Work
Date: 6 Jun 1994 11:08:51 GMT
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JFrank777 (jfrank777@aol.com) wrote:
: Hi everyone,

: I was wondering if anybody had some suggestions on commercially
: available stable isotope growth mediums. Are there any drawbacks we
: should be aware of in using these mediums? We are planning on using
: them in E.Coli cultures and mammalian cell cultures. Thanks.

	Which stable isotopes do you mean ? I've grown coli in 13C and 15N
labelled media, but I've never tried mammalian cells. My experience with
coli is that its worth trying both minimal and rich media, and several
different strains of coli - can get big differences between them. 
	I've ended up going for minimal media (M9) using 15N ammonium chloride,
and 13C glucose; tried out different C sources as well. In the rich media we
tried, there seemed to be quite a bit of batch variation.

: J. Frank
: UCSD

	Ben
______________________________________________________________________________

Ben Davis,
MRC Protein Function and Design,
Cambridge, UK
______________________________________________________________________________

"They can make me do it, but they can't make me do it with dignity."

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: lot49@aol.com (Lot49)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Small peptide purification blues
Date: 6 Jun 1994 21:34:01 -0400
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In article <01HCSQ4FBJAQ003YA5@GW.AGR.CA>, RAMPITSCH@BCRSSU.AGR.CA
writes:
>I'm trying to isolate a peptide about 1000 to 1500 Da (best guess)
>and probably cyclic. Initial purification steps are: acid
precipitation
>(very inefficient) followed by ion exchange chromatography (which
>works well). I want to make polyclonals against the peptide and need
>more purification steps so I've set up a gel filtration column. Now
I
>need to concentrate the sample before loading the column. The sample
is
>about 20 ml in volume and contains approx 0.4M NaCl and 10 mM Tris
>buffer
>pH 7.5. The peptide is reasonably easy to produce, so we can
tolerate 
>some loss.
Try bumping up the pH a bit - say 8.3 (you're pushing Tris right now)
and reloading onto your re-equilibrated ion-exchange column.  Hit it
with 1 M NaCl in a reverse flow (if possible).  You should be able to
get it down to a mL or so.  Salt concentration is irrelevant for your
next step, gel filtration.
Hope this helps.
shawn
PS Make sure you use one of those great Pharmacia products!



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: kdlst1@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: amino acid - silica binding
Date: 7 Jun 1994 06:03:37 GMT
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Netters,

	Due to the absence of a chromatography thread, I'm asking this
question here.  There has been much controversy within my research
group on exactly how an amino acid binds with a pure silica substrate.
Given an AA with a relatively unreactive R group (ie. glycine, alanine)
which end of the AA (ie. carboxyl or amine) will bind with silica, and how?

	As you may guess, biochemistry is getting out of my group's field
(materials engineering).  I'm sure these interactions have been thoroughly
studied, but have been unable to locate any good reference that directly
addresses the issue.  Replies giving references of such would be EXTREMELY
helpful.  Any comments addressing the question are also requested.  Thanks
for your tolerance in helping a man that's out of his field wanting to 
consume your time with "the basics".

Sincerely,

Keith
KDLST1@ufcc.ufl.edu


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jun 05 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!bcm!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!think.com!hsdndev!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!Nicholas.J.Morris
From: Nicholas.J.Morris@dartmouth.edu (Nicholas J. Morris)
Newsgroups: bionet.cellbiol,bionet.general,bionet.immunology,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molbio.proteins,bionet.neuroscience
Subject: Antibodies to G-protein beta subunits
Date: 6 Jun 1994 19:58:40 GMT
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Dear Fellow Netters,

At present I am working on a project in which I need an antibody that 
recognizes guanine nucleotide binding protein (G-protein) beta
subunits.  Preferably the antibody should recognize all the different
beta subunits both in Western blots and immunoprecipitations (Yes I
know that I am asking a lot!).

I have tried several of the commercially available antibodies and have
had mixed results.  If anybody has any experience or knowledge of any
antibodies that may be of use I would be grateful if you could take the
time to e-mail the details.

Thank you for your time in considering these matters.

Nick Morris

e-mail address:  Nicholas.J.Morris@Dartmouth.Edu

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In article <2smuf9$icv@sun4.bham.ac.uk> altabios@bham.ac.uk (John E. Fox) writes:

: I run a core laboratory which among other things, includes protein sequencing.
: Our record is 10 amino acids off 800 femtomole of sample, although this is at
: the extreme edge of the technique when using an ABI 473.  We can work with
: either free proteins or blots on PVDF. Just give the blots a light stain with
: amido black or similar.  We run the sequencing to GLP (Good laboratory
: practice) standards
: 
: Director Dr. John Fox
: tel  UK  021 414 5450
: fax UK  021 414 3376
: Email   altabios@uk.ac.bham

Dear John:

I'm thinking of detecting proteins using a dye such as Nile Red or SYBR Red
from Molecular Probes and then slicing the protein band directly from the gel.
Is it possible to sequence a protein directly from a polyacryamide gel without
blotting onto PVDF? Do you foresee any problems with the red dye blocking the
microsequencing? What is the minimum amount of protein needed for sequencing?

*******************************************************************************
* Paul N. Hengen, Ph.D.                           /--------------------------/*
* National Cancer Institute                       |Internet: pnh@ncifcrf.gov |*
* Laboratory of Mathematical Biology              |   Phone: (301) 846-5581  |*
* Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center|     FAX: (301) 846-5598  |*
* Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 USA              /--------------------------/*
*******************************************************************************

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: basheer@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (basheer)
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Subject: Eukaryotic expression
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Has anybody tried Baculovirus-GST fusion protein vector system for
eukaryotic expression.
                 Thanks  Basheer

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From: achern@umassmed.UMMED.EDU (Andrew Cherniack)
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Does anybody know a lab or facility that does radio sequencing of
32P labeled peptides in New England, preferably in the greater Boston
area.


Andrew Cherniack
achern@umassmed.ummed.edu


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Does anybody know a lab or facility that does radio sequencing of
32P labeled peptides in New England, preferably in the greater Boston
area.

Andrew Cherniack
achern@umassmed.ummed.edu


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: KMILLER@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Ken Miller)
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Subject: Help needed on oligo secondary structure
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     I'm currently planning several oligonucleotide primers to use in
Polymerase Chain Reaction and I'm concerned that the primers might have
secondary structure that may inhibit the reaction. A primer may fold upon
itself in such a way as to inhibit binding to the template or 3' end
amplification of the product.

     Does anyone have any suggestions as to a good method to address this issue
either manually or via computer?
     Any and all suggesstions welcome.
     Thanks!
Ben Greenfield

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: altabios@bham.ac.uk (John E. Fox)
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Subject: Proteins and sodium borohydride
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Has anyone got any references to the use of sodium borohydride to reduce
proteins?
Apart from the reduction of Cys does anyone know of any side reactions?

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: kksng@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kenneth Kai-Sing Ng)
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Subject: selenomethionine and tfa
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I am purifying a protein containing selenomethionines in place of
the methionines.

One of the purification steps for my native, methionine containing
protein involves HPLC purification with 0.1% trifluoroacetic acid (TFA)
as a modifier (in 0-50% acetonitrile/100-50% water).

I have heard that selenomethionine is more sensitive to oxidation and
acid hydrolysis than methionine.  Has anyone out there had experience
with TFA/acetonitrile and selenomethionine?

Thanks in advance.

Ken Ng

kksng@leland.stanford.edu
Department of Cell Biology
Stanford University
-- 
kksng@leland.stanford.edu
Ken Ng
Department of Cell Biology
Stanford University

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: k_wilson@icrf.icnet.uk (kate wilson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Tenascin. Can someone help.
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I've Just started my PhD and I'm looking at the ecm molecule tenascin.
No one else in my lab knows much about it and I'd really appreciate talking
with someone who does. I'm having real difficulty with
immunohistochemistry.
I'd also like to know about any relevent meetings that are coming up.
I'll be eternally grateful for any help given.
Please E-mail me

Kate (edinburgh,UK)

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: dnicker@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Darren Nickerson)
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Subject: Optical Difference Spectroscopy?? Ref?
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In Biochemistry, Vol. 15, No. 24, 1976 5399-5406, Stephen J. Sligar discusses
the determination of equilibrium constants (substrate binding) and
thermodynamic parameters describing the spin transition.

The method is quoted as optical difference spectroscopy, and consists of having
an identical sample as the reference, held at constant temperature, while the
other sample is taken taken through a range of temperatures, with the optical
spectrum being recorded at each temperature. Sligar makes repeated reference to
a paper in Methods in Enzymology, in which the methodology is described, but I
have as yet been unable to locate this paper, for which a precise reference is
never given.

Not being a protein chemist myself, I was wondering if anyone was familiar with
this technique, and could perhaps supply a reference?  Thanks in advance,
e-mail replies preferred, and if there is sufficient interest I will post a
summary to the list.

-Darren Nickerson
 New Chemistry Laboratory
 University of Oxford



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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 06 23:00:00 1994
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I am having difficulties cleaving a pMAL fusion protein. I have tried varying the salt and detergent concentrations without any positive results. Is there anyone out there who has got any tricks to try?

Quisling Desperate

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 07 23:00:00 1994
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In article <Cr1Dq6.6zK@ncifcrf.gov>, pnh@fcs260c2.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen) says:
>
>Dear John:
>
>I'm thinking of detecting proteins using a dye such as Nile Red or SYBR Red
>from Molecular Probes and then slicing the protein band directly from the gel.
>Is it possible to sequence a protein directly from a polyacryamide gel without
>blotting onto PVDF? Do you foresee any problems with the red dye blocking the
>microsequencing? What is the minimum amount of protein needed for sequencing?
>
>*******************************************************************************
>* Paul N. Hengen, Ph.D.                           /--------------------------/*
>* National Cancer Institute                       |Internet: pnh@ncifcrf.gov |*
>* Laboratory of Mathematical Biology              |   Phone: (301) 846-5581  |*
>* Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center|     FAX: (301) 846-5598  |*
>* Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 USA              /--------------------------/*
>*******************************************************************************


Dear Paul,
	I haven't used the particular two dyes you had in mind, but all the other standard
dyes such as Coomassie, Amido black, Ponceau,  etc. all work OK and don't seem to interfere.
You can avoid blotting, by cutting out the band, and extracting the protein using a 'Microcon'
filter as supplied by Amicon. (Amicon Inc    tel USA  508-777-3622     Beverly     MA.)
I haven't used one of these yet but I have just had some free samples to try out.
Amicon supply the protocol, their publication number is 311.

Our record for sequencing is 800 femto mole, 10 amino acids, but this is right at the edge
for our machine, ABI473A. 10 pico mole is fairly easy.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Vic Ilag)
Subject: Peptide synthesis incorporating Selenomethionine
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Is it possible to synthesize a peptide incorporating selenomethionine
or any modified amino acid? Please email me at b35@mace.cc.purdue.edu.

Thanks in advance.
vic


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: pnh@fcsparc6.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen)
Subject: Re: Nile red.
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 In article <1994Jun8.192936.171297@eros.embl-heidelberg.de>
 houthaeve@embl-heidelberg.de (Tony Houthaeve) writes:

> I'm thinking of detecting proteins using a dye such as Nile Red or SYBR Red
> from Molecular Probes and then slicing the protein band directly from the gel.
> Is it possible to sequence a protein directly from a polyacryamide gel without
> blotting onto PVDF? Do you foresee any problems with the red dye blocking the
> microsequencing? What is the minimum amount of protein needed for sequencing?

| It is not possible to sequence a protein within a polyacrylamide gel, so you
| first have to elute the protein out of their or blot it onto PVDF (nitrocellulo
| se does not work).  Nile red is a good stain, it has hydrophobic properties and
| in only a few minutes a high fluorescence in protein bands in gels is seen.
| More it is possible to first stain your gel with Nile red and then additionally
| blot onto PVDF. Subsequent sequencing can then be performed, Nile red does not
| block.  see : Biotechniques vol 16, No 4 (1994) p 621-624 An article from
| Bermudez, A, et al.

Yes. That's where I got the idea from, but it doesn't make sense to me. In
that paper, the authors first stain with Nile Red, then electrotransfer to
PVDF, then stain with Coomassie Blue before removing the protein for micro-
sequencing.  They further say that individual bands could be excised and
electroblotted onto PVDF in a mini-sandwich. Since the level of detection with
Nile Red is a banded protein of about 20 pg, I don't see why you can't just
remove the band directly from the gel for sequencing. I'm looking for the best
way to recover the band for sequence analysis without transfer to PVDF. Which
should I use? electroelution? freeze and squeeze? Centricon? Which works best
for maximum yield of protein and sequence data? Or is PVDF the only way to fly?

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* Paul N. Hengen, Ph.D.                           /--------------------------/*
* National Cancer Institute                       |Internet: pnh@ncifcrf.gov |*
* Laboratory of Mathematical Biology              |   Phone: (301) 846-5581  |*
* Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center|     FAX: (301) 846-5598  |*
* Frederick, Maryland 21702-1201 USA              /--------------------------/*
*******************************************************************************

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: gschinni@athena.mit.edu (Ranganathan S Godavarti)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: HOMOLOGY SEARCHES IN PROTEINS.
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HI,
I have the gene sequences and the amino acid sequences of two proteins made by
the same organism and these enzymes cleave the same substrate.  I looked for
homology with other proteins in the databases like genbank etc and found no
homology.  With software available in Macvector I found very little ,if nothing,
in terms of homology.  But since they cleave similar substrates I feel that there
must be some way to align these proteins and look for hom ology or conserved
amino acid residues.  Or maybe look for 3 dimensional homology in terms of
hydrophobic patches etc. Does anyone know of any software that can do good
homology searches?Especially if I am looking to see if the 2 proteins have
similar folding or 3D structures...can any molecular modeling software compare the 2
2 sequences and tell me if they are similar?
I appreciate your help...thanks in advance.
Ranga


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: houthaeve@embl-heidelberg.de (Tony Houthaeve)
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Subject: Re: Nile red.
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Date: 8 Jun 94 19:29:36 +0100
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In article <Cr1Dq6.6zK@ncifcrf.gov>, pnh@fcs260c2.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen) writes:
> 
> I'm thinking of detecting proteins using a dye such as Nile Red or SYBR Red
> from Molecular Probes and then slicing the protein band directly from the gel.
> Is it possible to sequence a protein directly from a polyacryamide gel without
> blotting onto PVDF? Do you foresee any problems with the red dye blocking the
> microsequencing? What is the minimum amount of protein needed for sequencing?
> > ***************************************************************************

It is not possible to sequence a protein within a polyacrylamide gel, so you 
first have to elute the protein out of their or blot it onto PVDF (nitrocellulo
se does not work).
Nile red is a good stain, it has hydrophobic properties and in only a few
minutes a high fluorescence in protein bands in gels is seen.
More it is possible to first stain your gel with Nile red and then additionally
blot onto PVDF. Subsequent sequencing can then be performed, Nile red does not
block.
see : Biotechniques vol 16, No 4 (1994) p 621-624 An article from Bermudez, A,
et al.


Good Luck

Tony Houthaeve
EMBL -Protein & Peptide Group



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!headwall.Stanford.EDU!hkibak
From: hkibak@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henrik Kibak)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: HOMOLOGY SEARCHES IN PROTEINS
Date: 9 Jun 1994 17:18:08 GMT
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In article <1994Jun9.080552.9358@news.uit.no>,
Oyvind Edvardsen <edvard@atf1.uit.no> wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>In 1987 an excellent 1 page letter was published in Cell [1], entitled
>"Homology" in proteins and nucleic acids: A terminology muddle and
>a way out of it
>
>[1] Reek et al. (1987) Cell 50:667
>

Agreed, "similarity" is the word people mean 90% of the time.

To look at similarities between two protein sequences the finest approach
is a dot matrix comparison.  Bill Pearson used to supply a public domain
program called "plfasta" for IBMpc's that I still use, and I am sure that
there are plenty of programs out there that do the same.  Looking through
my list of software available from the EMBL Data Library I see, for example,
"dotplot$.exe" by R. Nakisa which you can ftp, and it probably does the
same as Pearson's program.

*=================================  ====================================*
|| Henrik Kibak, Ph.D.            || Email: hkibak@leland.stanford.edu ||
|| Stanford University            || Telephone:  408.655.6227          ||
|| Hopkins Marine Station         || Fax: 408.375.0793                 ||
|| Pacific Grove CA 93950 USA     || Laboratory: David Epel            ||
*=================================  ====================================*

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
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                            RasMol 2.4
              Molecular Graphics Visualisation tool.

                           Roger Sayle 
                  BioMolecular Structures Group
                   Glaxo Research & Development
                     Greenford, Middlesex, UK.
                            June 1994


    This posting is to announce the release of RasMol version 2.4. RasMol
is a molecular graphics program intended for the visualisation of proteins,
nucleic acids and small molecules. The program is aimed at teaching, display
and generation of publication quality images. The program has been
developed at the University of Edinburgh's Biocomputing Research Unit and
recently with financial assistance from the Biomolecular Structures Group
at Glaxo Research and Development, Greenford, UK. This latest version has 
a significant number of improvements over RasMol 2.3. Most of these 
enhancements are described at the end of this message. For a complete list 
of additions, bug fixes and acknowledgements, refer to the distribution's 
"ChangeLog".

    RasMol reads in molecular co-ordinate files in a number of formats and
interactively displays the molecule on the screen in a variety of colour
schemes and representations. Currently supported input file formats include
Brookhaven Protein Databank (PDB), Tripos' Alchemy and Sybyl Mol2 formats,
Molecular Design Limited's (MDL) Mol file format, Minnesota Supercomputer
Center's (MSC) XMol XYZ format and CHARMm format files. If connectivity
information and/or secondary structure information is not contained in the
file this is calculated automatically. The loaded molecule may be shown as
wireframe, cylinder (drieding) stick bonds, alpha-carbon trace, spacefilling
(CPK) spheres, macromolecular ribbons (either smooth shaded solid ribbons
or parallel strands), hydrogen bonding and dot surface. Different parts of
the molecule may be displayed and coloured independently of the rest of
the molecule or shown in different representations simultaneously. The
spacefilling spheres can even be shadowed. The displayed molecule may be 
rotated, translated, zoomed, z-clipped (slabbed) interactively using either
the mouse, the scroll bars, the command line or an attached dials box. 
RasMol can read a prepared list of commands from a `script' file (or via 
interprocess communication) to allow a given image or viewpoint to be 
restored quickly. RasMol can also be used to create script files containing
the commands required to regenerate the current image. Finally the rendered 
image may be written out in a variety of formats including both raster and 
vector PostScript, GIF, PPM, BMP, Sun rasterfile or as a MolScript input 
script.

    RasMol will run on a wide range of architectures and systems including 
sun3, sun4, sun386i, SGI, DEC, HP and E&S workstations, IBM RS/6000, Cray,
Sequent, DEC Alpha (OSF/1, OpenVMS and Windows NT), VAX VMS (under DEC 
Windows), IBM RS/6000, HP and IBM PC (under Microsoft Windows, Windows NT,
OS/2, Linux, BSD386 and *BSD). Support for an Apple Machintosh version is
planned for October '94. UNIX and VMS versions require an 8bit, 24bit or
32bit X Windows frame buffer (X11R4 or later). The X Windows version of
RasMol provides optional support for a hardware dials box and accelerated
shared memory rendering (via the XInput and MIT-SHM extensions) if available.

    The source code is public domain and freely distributable provided that
the original author is suitably acknowledged. The complete source code and
user documentation may be obtained by anonymous FTP from ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk
[129.215.160.5] in the directory /pub/rasmol. The source code, documentation
and Microsoft Windows executables are stored in several files appropriate
for the receiving operating system. Please read the "README" file in the
distribution directory. UNIX and VAX systems should retreive either 
RasMol2.tar.Z, RasMol2.tar.gz or rasmol2.zip. Microsoft Windows users should
retrieve RasWin.zip and optionally the Visual Basic package RasMenu.zip 
both of which contain executable .EXE files. All these files include source 
code, on-line help, user manual and reference card. Please remember to use 
"binary" mode when transferring these files between systems. Check that the 
file size is the same before and after transfer.

    Any comments, suggestions or questions about the package may be directed
to either "rasmol@dcs.ed.ac.uk" or "rasmol@ggr.co.uk".



Enhancements since Version 2.3 [February 1994]

  o Developed an extensive Graphical Uer Interface (GUI) to the Microsoft
    Windows version of the program. This Visual Basic application will 
    shortly be rewritten and integrated into RasMol on MS Windows, X Windows 
    and Apple Mac platforms.

  o Added the ability to store the current representation and transformation
    of the molecule in a RasMol script file using the "write script" command.
    These script files are also edittable by hand and allow presentations 
    and databases of `interactive protein images' to be constructed.

  o Added support for molecular dot surfaces. Dot surfaces may currently
    be displayed on a Van der Waal's or fixed radius surface on the 
    molecule with a specified point density. A partial implementation of 
    solvent accessible dots surfaces initial attempt has been made at 
    supporting solvent accessible surfaces using the "set solvent" command.

  o Allow the simultaneous display of biomolecular ribbons as both smooth
    solid surfaces and as parallel depth-cued strands. Solid ribbons are 
    now Gouraud rather than flat (normal) shaded. Allow the central and
    outermost strands of a ribbon to be displayed in different colours.

  o Support for a number of small molecule file formats including CHARMm,
    MDL Mol files, Sybyl Mol2 and MSC's (XMol) XYZ format. Smaller default 
    bond radius for stick models of small molecules and unadjusted Van der 
    Waals radii of atoms in molecules containing explicit hydrogen atoms.

  o Improved the quality of MolScript script file output. In addition to
    rotation and secondary structure, RasMol now also passes zooming,
    translation and z-clipping information to MolScript.

  o Improved the methods used to determine molecule bonding. RasMol now
    honours connectivity records stored in co-ordinate files if included.

  o RasMol can now also display the cartesian co-ordinate axes, bounding 
    box and crystallographic unit cell of the displayed molecule.

  o Improved the resizing of the Microsoft Windows command line window 
    and added a scroll bar to redisplay text past the top of the screen.

-- 
Roger Sayle,                       INTERNET:  ras32425@ggr.co.uk
Glaxo Research & Development (GRD)            ros@dcs.ed.ac.uk
Greenford Road, Greenford          Tel:   (+44) 081 966 3567 (direct line)
Middlesex UB6 0HE, UK.             Fax:   (+44) 081 966 4476

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From: dnicker@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Darren Nickerson)
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Subject: Equilibrium Dialysis?  Apparatus/method?
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In our continuing quest to investigate substrate-binding equilibria (see
previous post requesting info on optical difference spectroscopy), we would
be very happy to hear from anyone who might have any direct experience with a
technique called "equilibrium dialysis", especially in terms of the equipment
required, and the experimental technique involved.  Any references would be
most helpful, e-mail replies are preferred, and I will summarize if there are
any/many replies :).  

Darren Nickerson
University of Oxford.


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From: MGCASEY@AEOLUS.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH (Michael Casey)
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Subject: Re: Total Digest of Proteins
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In <2sl5i3$r02@nntp2.Stanford.EDU> hkibak@leland.Stanford.EDU writes:

> 
> 
> In order to determine if the molecule I am interested in is a peptide,
> I would like to determine if protease digestion will abolish activity.
> I have tried digesting my crude (animal tissue) homogenate with 1 mg/ml
> pronase (24 hr, room temperature), but this enzyme alone does not
> completely digest all proteins to amino acids.  Can anyone suggest
> a protease or combination of proteases which will do the job?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Beth Schomer
> 
> POSTED BY hkibak@leland.stanford.edu FOR schomer@leland.stanford.edu
> Please respond by posting to this newsgroup or
> by e-mail to: schomer@leland.stanford.edu


We use Proteinase K to hydrolyse milk proteins. The proteins may first be
denatured with SDS and then treated with Proteinase K. SDS does not inhibit
the activity of this enzyme.

Mike.



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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: edvard@atf1.uit.no (Oyvind Edvardsen)
Subject: Re: HOMOLOGY SEARCHES IN PROTEINS
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Greetings,

In 1987 an excellent 1 page letter was published in Cell [1], entitled
"Homology" in proteins and nucleic acids: A terminology muddle and
a way out of it

From reading Ranga's posting it is evident that this paper may still be 
worth reading. Some highlights from the Cell letter:
-homology implies "having a common evolutionary origin". Sequences are
either homologous or not.
-similarity is a quantitative property of the sequences

Strict terminology is important in any science, but unfortunately
Ranga is not alone in mixing up the terms homology and similarity. The
authors of the letter to Cell in 1987 stated that such "muddy" terminology
"is clogging the literature", and it still is. E.g. one has the term
"homology modeling" which really should have been "similarity modeling".

Ranga, it was not my intention to jump on you, but rather use your posting
as an opportunity to point to the letter to Cell. I guess your posting
really was on similarity? In that case it may perhaps be worthwile to have
a look at the HSSP [2] stuff from EMBL-Heidelberg.

Best reg'ds
-oed.

References:
[1] Reek et al. (1987) Cell 50:667
[2] Sander & Schneider (1991) Proteins 9:56-68


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: harris@biosci.uq.oz.au (ml harris)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: receive this group as email?
Date: 9 Jun 1994 22:20:09 GMT
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Summary: receive this group as email?
Keywords: receive this group as email?

Was just wondering if it were possible to receive the postings
to this group as email.

Thanks heaps

Michelle

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: ccdajrfg@leeds.ac.uk (A.J. REBELO FERREIRA GUIOMAR)
Subject: conformational studies of immobilised enzymes
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Does anyone know any group working on conformational characterisation of 
enzymes after being covalently immobilised onto a solid, polymeric support?
Thanks!

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jun 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: hegyi@hubi.abc.hu (Hedvig Hegyi)
Subject: Re: HOMOLOGY SEARCHES IN PROTEINS
Message-ID: <hegyi.771181672@hubi.abc.hu>
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edvard@atf1.uit.no (Oyvind Edvardsen) writes:

>Greetings,

>In 1987 an excellent 1 page letter was published in Cell [1], entitled
>"Homology" in proteins and nucleic acids: A terminology muddle and
>a way out of it

>From reading Ranga's posting it is evident that this paper may still be 
>worth reading. Some highlights from the Cell letter:
>-homology implies "having a common evolutionary origin". Sequences are
>either homologous or not.
>-similarity is a quantitative property of the sequences

>Strict terminology is important in any science, but unfortunately
>Ranga is not alone in mixing up the terms homology and similarity. The
>authors of the letter to Cell in 1987 stated that such "muddy" terminology
>"is clogging the literature", and it still is. E.g. one has the term
>"homology modeling" which really should have been "similarity modeling".

>Ranga, it was not my intention to jump on you, but rather use your posting
>as an opportunity to point to the letter to Cell. I guess your posting
>really was on similarity? In that case it may perhaps be worthwile to have
>a look at the HSSP [2] stuff from EMBL-Heidelberg.

>Best reg'ds
>-oed.
...

In my opinion anybody who has ever heard the terminology "sequence 
homology", or "homologous sequences" exactly knows, what it means.
Nobody will mix up two homologous sequences with two homologous proteins 
(ie. of common evolutionary origin). The fact that this terminology still 
survives justifies itself. The word 'homologous' in this context is used 
for 'significantly similar', not simply for 'similar'. 

But let us leave play with words to Wittgenstein. It is rather his privilege.

Returning to the original questions: 

1/ There are a lot of tools and facilities for looking for sequences that 
are homologous for a certain sequence. If you are particularly interested 
in protein sequences then you can try our server, that is a BLAST server 
and concentrates on protein domain HOMOLOGIES. Send a message to the 
address: 

domain@hubi.abc.hu 

containing the word 'help' in the body of the 
message and you will get a description of it.

2/ Prediction of 3D structure from sequence is a rather difficult and 
(mostly) yet unresolved problem. But there have been a lot of 
developments lately in this field. I read for example an excellent paper 
(Jones et al., Nature, Vol. 358:86-89, 1992) that tries to derive a 3D 
structure from a protein sequence based on fitting sequence 'directly 
onto the backbone coordinates of known protein sequences'.

Hope this helps.

Hedvig Hegyi

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From: Pierre Hubert <hubert@cigale.u-strasbg.fr>
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	We are trying to prepare solubilized lectin-purified EGF receptors from
A-431 cells for binding and kinase studies. From the litterature we
picked up a method involving solubilization in Triton X-100,
chromatography on Wheat Germ Agglutinin-agarose, and elution in
acetylglucosamine + MgCl2 + glycerol. On the day of purification, EGF
binding and EGF stimulation of receptor autophosphorylation work OK. Our
big problem is that after a few days in the -80! freezer, EGF binding and
kinase stimulation decrease and eventually are completely lost. We can
still detect autophosphorylation, but no stimulation by EGF, and
autophosphorylated receptors appear as oligomers upon non-denaturating
electrophoresis analysis, with very little monomer.

	Are there any tricks to allow for conservation of active EGF-receptors
for a few weeks ? 
	Is there a better partial purification procedure ? 
	Or is it better use freshly prepared receptors for each experiment ?
(quite tedious...)

	Thanks a lot for any tips.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Jun 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: eschiltz@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Emile Schiltz)
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John E. Fox (altabios@bham.ac.uk) wrote:
: Has anyone got any references to the use of sodium borohydride to reduce
: proteins?
: Apart from the reduction of Cys does anyone know of any side reactions?
this was done by many people that wanted to fix the PLP-Lys  bond in
enzymes. it works fine , no particular side-effects, except that the
solution produces hydrogen for a while.
I have no reference at hand but just look for pyridoxyl-phosphate
binding sites in enzymes or in Methods of Enzymology.

Bye

--
Emile Schiltz <eschiltz@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
           or <schiltz@bio2.chemie.uni-freiburg.de>
Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry
Albertstrasse 21, D-79104 Freiburg, Germany
phone: +49 761 203 6090

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From: dunten@onyx.bmc.uu.se (Pete Dunten)
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Phosphorylated aspartate is also reduced by borohydride.
See JBC Vol. 264, 21770 ('89) for a protocol and possibly
further references to the use of borohydride.

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I am looking for executables for xv and ghostscript running on the 
Evans and Sutherland ESV workstation. gs _MUST_ include the hp 550c 
driver device cdj550. Alternatively I am looking for somebody 
who is willing to compile the gs261 gdevmem1.c file on a SGI RS3000 
for me.

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From: wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Warren Gallin)
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Greetings,

   We have been staining wholemounts of embryos that we hope have a
transgene for lacZ, with the enzyme directed to the nuclei.  To see whether
the blue stuff that we see is legitimate (i.e. present in the nuclei and
therefore a product our transgene) we want to embed and section the embryos.
Does anyone know if the X-gal reaction product will stay in place through an
ethanol dehydration series and clearing in either xylene or chloroform
followed by impregnation in hot paraffin?  Do we need to post-fix the
embryos before we go through the embedding?  All comments and suggestions
would be appreciated.

Warren Gallin,
Department of Zoology, University of Alberta
wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Jun 11 23:00:00 1994
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From: jui@neutron.nacamar.de (Uwe Harmening)
Subject: PDB-Files
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Hallo,

we just got the Rasmol-Software for Windows, which is excellent and
available thru ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk! (raswin.zip in pub/rasmol)
But, because I am new to the matter, there is a question. Where can I get
standard pdb-structured files? I would need HSFs or other
transcription-factors. 
Thanx

--
Bye and cu

Jui

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Uwe Harmening, jui@neutron.nacamar.de writes:
>we just got the Rasmol-Software for Windows, which is excellent and
>available thru ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk! (raswin.zip in pub/rasmol)
>But, because I am new to the matter, there is a question. Where can I get
>standard pdb-structured files? ...

Jonathan B. Marder, MARDER@agri.huji.ac.il writes:
>GDB files can be got from NIH via gopher.  I don't have the exact
pointer and
>right now, our connections are down.  One way in is to go via gopher at
>merlot.gdb.org - you should eventually find an item to search the NIH
database
>for what you seek.

Please note: PDB <> GDB

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In article <1994Jun12.125420.20816@neutron.nacamar.de> jui@neutron.nacamar.de (Uwe Harmening) writes:
>Subject: PDB-Files
>From: jui@neutron.nacamar.de (Uwe Harmening)
>Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 12:54:20 GMT

>Hallo,

>we just got the Rasmol-Software for Windows, which is excellent ...

I agree - it certainly is!  I have been looking at photosynthetic centres with
it.

>But, because I am new to the matter, there is a question. Where can I get
>standard pdb-structured files? I would need HSFs or other
>transcription-factors.

GDB files can be got from NIH via gopher.  I don't have the exact pointer and
right now, our connections are down.  One way in is to go via gopher at
merlot.gdb.org - you should eventually find an item to search the NIH database
for what you seek.
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hi..

I tried to calculate the Hydrogen coordinates of the N-H bond in the
pdb file (no need for the side chain Hydrogen, or OH).. I looked thru
Quanta4.0 and it does it nicely thru CHARM Energy.. so Is there an
algorithm available out there?? This one seems very useful so anyone
has any reference or suggestion?? Thank you.

dduc

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From: rsaldanh@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Roland J Saldanha)
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In article <Lab_Mac_Hanson-130694113208@128.84.203.227>,
Hanson Lab <Lab_Mac_Hanson@QMrelay.mail.cornell.edu> wrote:
>Hello Protein People--
>We are having a lab discussion regarding the number of times one can use a
>primary antibody probe solution.  Like, can it be used indefinitely?  Or is
>more than once a dangerous precedent?  Are there any general
>recommendations from this group?  Any ideas would be most welcome.  Any
>hints on when a solution has been used once-too-many times, and what the
>Western would look like (slow to develop, or weak bands disappearing).
>thanks for any input,
> Claudia Sutton
>cas9@cornell.edu
>Cornell University
>Ithaca,NY
>hey, it's hot here today!



We have repeatedly used Antibodies upto 10 times or longer.  We store the 
antibodies in TBS with BSA and add sodium azide.   The diagnostic 
characteristics that you mention (slow development) is what we use to judge 
whether its time to replenish the stock.  If the antibody is very precious we 
merely spike the pool with a smaller amount of the original antibody (say a 
1;20,000 dilution if the original dilution was 1:2500 etc).

Roland Saldanha

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From: rsaldanh@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Roland J Saldanha)
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I am working with a reverse transcriptase that is very tightly attached to its 
cognate template.  On freeing the enzyme from nucleic acids (say by micrococcal
nuclease digestion) the protein has a tendency to immediately aggregate and 
come out of solution though it retains some activity in this precipitated form.
I am looking for means to solubilise the protein to facilitate purification and
would welcome suggestions from this group.

I have tried detergents (non-ionic) and an array of monovalent salts at 
concentrations from 0.5 to 2.5 M. The protein is very basic with a calculated 
pI of 10.3!

Roland Saldanha

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In article <wgallin.1121673526A@NEWS.SRV.UALBERTA.CA>
wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Warren Gallin) writes:

> Greetings,
> 
>    We have been staining wholemounts of embryos that we hope have a
> transgene for lacZ, with the enzyme directed to the nuclei.  To see whether
> the blue stuff that we see is legitimate (i.e. present in the nuclei and
> therefore a product our transgene) we want to embed and section the embryos.
> Does anyone know if the X-gal reaction product will stay in place through an
> ethanol dehydration series and clearing in either xylene or chloroform
> followed by impregnation in hot paraffin?  Do we need to post-fix the
> embryos before we go through the embedding?  All comments and suggestions
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Warren Gallin,
> Department of Zoology, University of Alberta
> wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca

I was transfecting cells in vivo with an LacZ expression vector, and
having problems mounting the tissue in glycerol, so I took a precious
transfected organ, stained with X-Gal which looked beautiful, and
dehdrated it in alcohol and mounted in methyl salycilate to get a good
picture, and BAM, the blue colouration had gone. I nearly had a fit. I
posted exactly this question to Methds&Reagnts newsgroup and got a very
useful reply from Sean May at Warwick, saying that the blue product was
soluble in al;cohol, and in order to keep it there you need to
post-fix. Needless to say I never tried it again, and now mount in
Vectastain mounting medium from Vector Labs on the advice of Ann
Baldwin from Arizona. Great stuff, clear as a bell, stops bleaching of
fluorescence, and don't need dehydration.

Good luck
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Dave Bates,                                        dobates@ucdavis.edu
Department of Human Physiology, University of California at Davis
 
No I don't have a sense of humour, now buy me a beer
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Hello Protein People--
We are having a lab discussion regarding the number of times one can use a
primary antibody probe solution.  Like, can it be used indefinitely?  Or is
more than once a dangerous precedent?  Are there any general
recommendations from this group?  Any ideas would be most welcome.  Any
hints on when a solution has been used once-too-many times, and what the
Western would look like (slow to develop, or weak bands disappearing).
thanks for any input,
 Claudia Sutton 
cas9@cornell.edu  
Cornell University
Ithaca,NY
hey, it's hot here today!

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 13 23:00:00 1994
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From: MCCORMICK  M <W332@UNB.CA>
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Hi!  I have just completed the 3rd year of my BSc in Bio-Chemistry
at UNB(Fredericton), and I am interested in persuing a Masters/PhD
after I graduate.  This summer I am working in the Molecular Virology
research lab here at UNB on an NSERC scholarship (which I was damn
lucky to get!), and plan to do an honours in the fall.
I would like to know some of the inside stuff on (Molecular/Bio-
Chem) Graduate Programs in Canada.  Who is doing really good research?
Who is good to work with?
Also, I have heard that it is smart to start with a Masters, and if
things are going well, to apply for PhD after the first six months or
so.  Is this true?
                                 Thanx

                                 Craig (w332@unb.ca)



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 13 23:00:00 1994
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From: reese@msscc.med.utah.edu (Van R. Reese)
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I am working with collagen peptides and would be interested in any 
suggestions for separating them.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 13 23:00:00 1994
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From: mcdonald@bsm.biochemistry.ucl.ac.uk (Ian McDonald)
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Subject: Re: how to calculate H coordinates of NH bond with pdb file
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I don't know about the Charmm algorithm, but the HBPLUS program is capable of
positioning Hs according to preset positions.

            HBPLUS v 2.25 - Free Hydrogen Bond Calculator
            ---------------------------------------------

HBPLUS is a hydrogen bond calculation program that has been developed
in-house over the course of over four years and has been used in countries
as distant as the USA, Taiwan and South Africa.  It calculates positions
for polar hydrogens, which it can output in PDB format.  It can also be
used to generate a list of neighbour interactions.

In the process of the algorithm, it calculates the angles at the hydrogen
and the acceptor as well as the donor-acceptor and hydrogen-acceptor
distances.  It also calculates the positions of polar hydrogens.  All the 
hydrogen bond criteria, including which atoms do or do not hydrogen bond, are 
customisable.

The program inputs a Brookhaven protein database format file, and outputs a
list of hydrogen bonds, including geometries.  It can also output a Brookhaven
format file with the polar hydrogen positions included.

It is written in ANSI C and has been checked on several UNIX systems as
well as VAX/VMS.  It requires too much memory to run on an IBM PC.

If you would like a copy of HBPLUS, simply snailmail me a signed copy of
the confidentiality agreement at the bottom of this post and I shall email
you the source code and documentation.  The agreement boils down to you
promising not to give anyone outside your lab copies, and to reference us
if you use HBPLUS' results in a paper.  HBPLUS is free to academic users.

HBPLUS is (c) IK McDonald, D Naylor, D Jones and JM Thornton 1993















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Email mcdonald@uk.ac.ucl.biochemisty.bsm


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jun 13 23:00:00 1994
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From: lhom@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Hom)
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Subject: Factorial Method Ref?
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Can anyone direct me to a reference for the factorial method of determining
crystallization conditions for proteins?
-- 
										****************************************************************************
*   Lou Hom			*	"All folks are family."            *
*   lhom@ocf.berkeley.edu       *    			-- John Saponara   * 
****************************************************************************

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From: wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman)
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Hello,

Does anyone out there know the consensus cleavage site for
thrombin?  I am using thrombin to cleave a
glutathione-S-transferase fusion protein.  I want to make sure
there is no internal cleavage sites on the GST protein.

-fm


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From: mack@ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack)
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In article <2tnag7$j0@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> Malcolm Hawkesford <malcolm.hawkesford@afrc.ac.uk> writes:
>Does anyone know how to seperate and detect (and therefore measure) O-acetyl
>serine (OAS) in plant extracts. This is a precursor in cysteine synthesis. 
>
>In preference we would like some kind of HPLC or GC based method. One
>particular problem is the rapid spontaneous conversion to the N-acetylated form
>that occurs in solution, at alkaline pH. 

I've worked with these type  of compounds before and the anchimerically
assisted isomerisation will get you every time. Is it acceptable to
make sure all is converted to the N-Ac form and measure it?

Joe Mack
mack@ncifcrf.gov
(NIH, Bethesda MD)

>
>Thanks, Malcolm
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Tel     :  0275-392181 ext:252                           Station, Long Ashton,
> Fax     :  0275-394281                                   Bristol, BS18 9AF, UK.
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: rosto001@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Alexander P Rostovtsev)
Subject: Re: Basic protein for blocking?
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In <2tndtn$48u@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> hdang@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Hong Dang) writes:

>Dear Netters,

>Can anybody suggest a cheap basic protein for blocking DE-81 filters?
>We are trying to do filter binding assay using small protein ligands to receptors.

>Thank you in advance.

>Hong
the only one relatively cheap and pure basic protein I know about -
cytochrome c. I'm not so sure about histones. May be you should try poly-Lys.
Good luck.
Alexander Rostovtsev
U of Minnesota

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From: hdang@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Hong Dang)
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Dear Netters,

Can anybody suggest a cheap basic protein for blocking DE-81 filters?
We are trying to do filter binding assay using small protein ligands to receptors.

Thank you in advance.

Hong

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: rcwieg@ccmail.monsanto.com (Roger Wiegand)
Subject: Re: antibody probe solution
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In article <Lab_Mac_Hanson-130694113208@128.84.203.227>,
Lab_Mac_Hanson@QMrelay.mail.cornell.edu (Hanson Lab) wrote:

> Hello Protein People--
> We are having a lab discussion regarding the number of times one can use a
> primary antibody probe solution.  Like, can it be used indefinitely?  Or is
> more than once a dangerous precedent?  Are there any general
> recommendations from this group?  Any ideas would be most welcome.  Any
> hints on when a solution has been used once-too-many times, and what the
> Western would look like (slow to develop, or weak bands disappearing).
> thanks for any input,
>  Claudia Sutton 
> cas9@cornell.edu  
> Cornell University
> Ithaca,NY
> hey, it's hot here today!


We've used them 10-20 times. Background can actually improve significantly
with re-use. I've not yet re-used a solution often enough to see any
serious degradation in signal strength. Bugs do like to grow in the
solutions on storage, so I filter through a 0.2 micron filter periodically.
Adding azide would also be a good idea.
-- 
Thanks,
Roger

rcwieg@ccmail.monsanto.com
"If you push it hard enough, it *will* fall over"

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Does anyone know how to seperate and detect (and therefore measure) O-acetyl
serine (OAS) in plant extracts. This is a precursor in cysteine synthesis. 

In preference we would like some kind of HPLC or GC based method. One
particular problem is the rapid spontaneous conversion to the N-acetylated form
that occurs in solution, at alkaline pH. 

Thanks, Malcolm

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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	GLOBAL NETWORK FOR GMP PROTEIN SEQUENCING LABORATORIES

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						20 April, 1994

Dear Colleagues,

	We announce the opening of an information exchange network
for laboratories which do N-terminal Edman sequence analysis of
proteins and peptides to GMP, GLP, or ISO standards.

	Initially, the network will provide contact addresses of other
laboratories working in this field. If you wish to participate,
please contact


	M.Barnes

	Internet BARNES@PEBT.PHARMA.SANDOZ.CH

	Technical Research and Development - Biotechnology
	Sandoz Pharma AG
	Building 360, Laboratory 1124
	4002 Basel, Switzerland

	041-61-324-4137


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: ebstokes@maxwell.crd.ge.com (Ed Stokes)
Subject: antibodies to chemicals ?
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I am interested in the application of antibodies to immunoassays
for relatively small organic molecules. Is there a database
somewhere which summarizes what antibodies are available
which respond selectively to, say, PAH's, or monomers
such as styrene ?

Looking through the catalogs and the literature, it seems
that most antibodues are raised against other proteins.
However, there are cases (PCB's, for example) where
immunoassays have been implemented for non-biological
analytes. Is there a vendor which specializes in
these types of "anti-industrial" antibodies ?

Thanks
Ed Stokes
ebstokes@crd.ge.com

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: yduroche@cri.ens-lyon.fr (Yves Durocher)
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Subject: MW of myelin basic protein (bovine)
Date: 15 Jun 1994 16:20:39 +0100
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Is somebody knows the apparent molecular weight of MBP (bovine brain) on
SDS-PAGE gels ?
Please answer me directly to my E-mail address.
Thank you
Yves

yduroche@cri.ens-lyon.fr


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: harper@convex.csc.FI (Rob Harper)
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Subject: Re: PDB-Files
Date: 15 Jun 1994 09:54:27 GMT
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In <MARDER.231.2DFC835E@agri.huji.ac.il> MARDER@agri.huji.ac.il (Jonathan B. Marder) writes:

>GDB files can be got from NIH via gopher.  I don't have the exact pointer and
>right now, our connections are down.  One way in is to go via gopher at
>merlot.gdb.org - you should eventually find an item to search the NIH database
>for what you seek.

You might like to try the WWW and mosaic to the following site.

http://www.nih.gov/pdb

and if you have Rasmol installed and create a .mailcap file in your
home directory like

chemical/x-pdb;  /p/appl/bin/rasmol %s

(your path to boot the Rasmol programme would most likely be different)

Then you can search the PDB database for molecules and DISPLAY and ROTATE
them online.

RGDS -=ROB=- 
--
 R. Andrew Harper                  E-mail:          harper@convex.csc.fi    
 Center for Scientific Computing   Molbio/software: harper@nic.funet.fi
 Tietotie 6, P.O. Box 405          Telephone:       +358 0 457 2076
 SF-02101 Espoo Finland            Fax:             +358 0 457 2302

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jun 14 23:00:00 1994
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From: GAED6043@VAX1.AGRICULTURE.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
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Subject: 2-D electrophoresis
Date: 15 Jun 1994 10:14:28 +0100
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Help!  Has anyone an idiot proof method for bacterial protein extraction and sample prep. for 2-d page. thanks in anticipation  Kim Barr 
e-mail gaed6043