From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: JEB.Harrison@auckland.ac.nz (Jane Harrison)
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Subject: Baculovirus
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Hi,
		Anyone out there have a way of getting bacuolovirus particles out of the
supernatant?  Spinning at 100 000xg for 60 min is not sucessful enough.

Thanks

Jane


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: p_whitehead@icrf.icnet.uk (Phil Whitehead)
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Subject: Re: West blotting
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In article <2uotjj$c8k@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, mbsxu@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (S. Xu)
wrote:

> Hi, Folks,
> 
> I am interested in protein tyrosine phosphorylation in megakaryocyte
> differentiation.  Currently I have a problem doing Western blotting.  I
> used "Wet Electrophoric Transfer" method, but I found that the bands
> with low molecular weight were not evenly transferred.  BTW, I was told
> that it was very tricky to study tyrosine phosphorylation by using
> Western blotting, which I just touched.  Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -------------------------------------------------
> Ying Hong       Dept of Medicine
>                 King's College School of Medicine
>                 London SE5 9PJ
>                 Email: RCHA213@MAPL.KCL.CC.AC.UK
> -------------------------------------------------


What is the MW of your protein?
anything below 30K will whistle straight through o.45 nitrocellulose, so,
you may have to think about using 0.2 pore size instead .

Phil Whitehead

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: 6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: PLASMID DRAWING SOFTWARE
Date: 2 Aug 1994 15:23:38 GMT
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Can anyone recommend a good Macintosh program for drawing plasmids? Are
any available in the public domain from FTP sites?

Thanks,
Alan Friedman
6566Friedman@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU 

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From: DCRCEP@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Elmer M. Price)
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Subject: Test
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This is a test.
 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 01 23:00:00 1994
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From: ERNESTO@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU (martin)
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Phil Whitehead wrote that anything below 30 kd will pass through 0.45 nitrocell
ulose paper.
I donot understand why he is saying that since I have been using nitrocellulose
 paper with this pore size and found sometimes bands much more lower than my pr
otein that is 30 kd (I know that because of non-specific cross reactions with m
y antibody). So, basically I do not agree with that point.  Any comments?

                                                                    Martin.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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In article <199408030058.RAA01171@net.bio.net>, ERNESTO@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU (martin) writes:
>Phil Whitehead wrote that anything below 30 kd will pass through 0.45 nitrocell
>ulose paper.
>I donot understand why he is saying that since I have been using nitrocellulose
> paper with this pore size and found sometimes bands much more lower than my pr
>otein that is 30 kd (I know that because of non-specific cross reactions with m
>y antibody). So, basically I do not agree with that point.  Any comments?
>
>                                                                    Martin.

I have not only blotted proteins as small as 6 kd on 0.45 pore size, but I also
got a good N-terminal sequence from those blots! So I agree with you Martin. 

For anyone interested, I use Millipore Immobilon P (PVDF membrane), a semi-dry
blotting device (Novablot, Pharmacia I think), and I don't blot longer than
45 mins, because if you blot longer you will lose protein. The same applies for
nitrocellulose though. Yes, you get hazy bands with such small proteins, but
they stain with Comassie.
Flip
            
            

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: POSTMASTER@NBRF.GEORGETOWN.EDU
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Subject: Re: Need comments about PIR-41 feature format
Date: 3 Aug 1994 14:25:45 -0700
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In message <940803161033.20212185@scri.fsu.edu> Victor B. Strelets
(STRELETS@SCRI.FSU.EDU) said
> PIR-41 was practically ready for installation on
> anon.FTP when I find some strange (not described
> in the extremely pure documentation for new CODATA
> PIR format) frequent context in FEATURE field.
> This is symbol '\' which appeares without any
> visible regularity at the end of some strings
> which contain feature name (text description).
He soon added in another posting that he saw it was a record separator.

In the document CXFSD.LIS, available from the PIR Network Request Server
with the command SEND CXFSD, the use of the backslash is described as follows.

  The backslash is used as a general data item separator that indicates that
  what follows is a separate data item but of the same type. The backslash
  is used in the database only to indicate the concatenation of data items.

I am certain that if you obtain that document and receive the PIR Technical
Bulletins, you will find the answers to all your format questions. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Dr. John S. Garavelli
                                 Database Coordinator
                                 Protein Information Resource
                                 National Biomedical Research Foundation
                                 Washington, DC  20007
                                 POSTMAST@GUNBRF.BITNET
                                 POSTMASTER@NBRF.GEORGETOWN.EDU

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: cib@kidec.cmb.ki.se (Carlos Ibanez)
Subject: fusion protein cleavage
Message-ID: <Ctz5Lt.3u7@kidec.cmb.ki.se>
Organization: CMB, Karolinska Institutet
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 19:46:40 GMT
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 Is anyone out there working with proteins fused with glutathione S 
 transferase? My thrombin cleavage seems to be extremely inefficient. 
 I would appreciate any advise you could give me. I am doing the 
 cleavage in solution with free fusion protein (i.e. it is not bound
 to a matrix)
 
 Thanks in advance. Please e-mail your replies to Leopold.Ilag@mbb.ki.se

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: mmkania@aol.com (MMKania)
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Subject: High level protein expression.
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I am interested in expressing a bacterial enzyme in Drosophila cells. Does
anyone have knowledge about the stablity of bacterial proteins which are
expressed in eukaryotic cells? 

Please answer to my Email address: klingler@zi.biologie.uni-muenchen.de

Thank You,
Martin
 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU!vaisman
From: vaisman@GIBBS.OIT.UNC.EDU (Iosif Vaisman)
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Subject: Molecular Modeling Conference 1994
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Molecular Modeling Conference 1994
Fundamentals and Applications for the Pharmaceutical Industry
2-4 October 1994
Brunswick Hilton and Towers, East Brunswick, New Jersey

Molecular Modeling Conference 1994 is organized by Advanstar Communications, 
the publishers of Pharmaceutical Technology, BioPharm, LC-GC, and 
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Conference Moderators:  
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	Sciences, University of Maryland at Baltimore
Alexander Tropsha, Assistant Professor, Director, Laboratory for Molecular 
	Modeling, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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	R.W. Johnson Pharmaceutical Research Institute


Sunday, 2 October 1994

Afternoon Session: Optional Introductory Workshop - Molecular Modeling Basics
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		Alexander Tropsha (Session Organizer), University of North 
				Carolina, Chapel Hill
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Arnie Hagler, Biosym Technologies, Inc.

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General Representation and Solution of the QSAR Problem Based Upon 
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A. J. Hopfinger, University of Illinois at Chicago

Rapid Prediction of Binding Energies Using Continuum Methods
Barry Honig, Columbia University

Pharmacophore Determination:  The Critical Decision in Ligand-Based Design
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Overview of 3D-Searching:  A Powerful Technique for Computer-Assisted 
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X-ray Crystallographic Analysis of Macromolecular Structures
Wayne A. Hendrickson, Columbia University

Free Energy Modeling
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Multidimensional Heteronuclear NMR of Proteins
Angela M. Gronenborn, NIDDK, National Institutes of Health

Models of G Protein-Linked Receptors:  How Do We Get Them and 
What Can We Do With Them?
Charles Hutchins, Abbott Laboratories

Comparative Homology Modeling:  What Is It Good For and How Well Does It Work?  
Jonathan Greer, Abbott Laboratories

De Novo Predications of Quaternary Protein Structure:  Applications to 
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Jeffrey Skolnick, Scripps Research Institute

Computer Assisted Ligand Design
I.D. Kuntz, University of California, San Francisco

Retrospective and Prospective Successes of Molecular Modeling in the 
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: holbrook@camis.Stanford.EDU (Robin Holbrook)
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Subject: NMR Summer Course Announcement
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May 22-30, 1995
International School of Biological Magnetic Resonance, 2nd Course:  
"Dynamics and the Problem of Recognition in Biological 
Macromolecules" - Ettore Majorana Centre for Scientific Culture, 
Erice, Sicily, Italy
For information and/or registration contact either:
 holbrook@camis.stanford.edu (Robin Holbrook, Course Administrator)
or the Directors:
Dr. Oleg Jardetzky (Email:  jardetzky@camis.stanford.edu
Fax:  415/723-2253) or
Dr. Jean-Francois Lefevre (Email:  lefevre@bali.u-strasbg.fr
Fax:  +33/88 65 53 43)


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!SCRI.FSU.EDU!STRELETS
From: STRELETS@SCRI.FSU.EDU ("VICTOR B. STRELETS")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Need comments about PIR-41 feature format
Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:10:41 -0700
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Hi,

I'm working on the creation of the compressed PIR
data structure for compact storage and effective
retrieval of PIR information on different computers
(for DOS/Windows on IBM-compatibles and for UNIX).
PIR-41 was practically ready for installation on
anon.FTP when I find some strange (not described
in the extremely pure documentation for new CODATA
PIR format) frequent context in FEATURE field.
This is symbol '\' which appeares without any
visible regularity at the end of some strings
which contain feature name (text description).

Question to PIR stuff or well-informed netters:
Does this symbol mean something informative or
this is garbage object to simple kill? And by the
way, is there something more detailed on the network
instead of funny PIR CODATA description announced
on BIONET by PIR stuff (PIRTECHx files etc.)?

Thanks,
V.Strelets

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!SCRI.FSU.EDU!STRELETS
From: STRELETS@SCRI.FSU.EDU ("VICTOR B. STRELETS")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Oops, I see..
Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:49:35 -0700
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Ooooo, it was really easy. Instead of automatic thinking
in "string" style it was necessary to look at symbol '\'
as delimiter of particular independent feature type
(except of last in FATURE block). Sorry..

But why not to describe such details somewhere in
documentation? How can I feel if my automatic program
well designed for previous versions of PIR/GenBank databases
unexpectedly start to put in stored text some new symbols?
I'm not happy to find that during random control of
final data configuration..

I can remember old good times when databases were supplied
by toy entry file where all possible context combinations
were virtually presented and therefore explained. Where 
they are now?

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU!rellim
From: rellim@MAILHOST.TCS.TULANE.EDU (Chuck Miller)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: ftp site for Mac plasmid drawing program
Date: 3 Aug 1994 07:00:43 -0700
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Alan Friedman (6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu) asked:
Can anyone recommend a good Macintosh program for drawing plasmids? Are
any available in the public domain from FTP sites?

Hi Allen and other cellbios,

Try ftp.bio.indiana.edu and look in the molbio directory. Retrieve the
MacPlasmap program.

Best of luck,
Chuck Miller 
 Dr. Charles A. Miller 
 Dept. Environmental Health Sciences  (374 CBR)
 Tulane University Medical Center  
 1501 Canal St. Box SL29                 
 New Orleans, LA 70112               
 Ph.  504-585-6942                          
 Fx.   504-585-6939                                                        
                          
 rellim@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu                                            
                           
                   




From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 02 23:00:00 1994
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From: szeinfel@FOX.CCE.USP.BR (Rafael N Szeinfeld)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Richard Epand's adress needed
Date: 3 Aug 1994 12:39:29 -0700
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	Hi all,
	I need to contact Richard M. Epand from the Department of 
Biochemistry at McMaster University Health Sciences Center, Hamilton, 
Ontario.
	Thanks for your help


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: YMH4375@zeus.tamu.edu (Yasha Hartberg)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Salt Links vs. Hydrophobic Interactions?
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I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Yasha Hartberg
Texas A&M University

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!tonto-slip11.cis.brown.edu!user
From: Stephen_Lasky@brown.edu (Stephen R. Lasky)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Richard Epand's adress needed
Date: 4 Aug 1994 13:23:18 GMT
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In article <Pine.3.89.9408031620.A1506-0100000@fox.cce.usp.br>,
szeinfel@FOX.CCE.USP.BR (Rafael N Szeinfeld) wrote:

>         Hi all,
>         I need to contact Richard M. Epand from the Department of 
> Biochemistry at McMaster University Health Sciences Center, Hamilton, 
> Ontario.
>         Thanks for your help
A GOPHER SEARCH TURNED THIS UP, HOPE THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED.

-200:1:            name: R F Epand
-200:1:           email: epandraq@McMaster.Ca
-200:1:    office_phone: 22237
-200:1: office_location: Health Sciences Centre Room 4h26
-200:1:      department: Biochemistry
-200:1:        position: Research Associate
-200:2:            name: R M Epand
-200:2:           email: epand@McMaster.Ca
-200:2:    office_phone: 22453
-200:2: office_location: Health Sciences Centre Room 4h26
-200:2:      department: Biochemistry
-200:2:        position: Professor


***************************************************************
Stephen R. Lasky, Ph.D.       Brown University/Roger Williams Medical Center
e-mail: Stephen_Lasky@brown.edu         LandLine: 401-456-6572
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
America may be unique in being a country which has leapt from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization:  John O'Hara
***************************************************************

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: bipin@iastate.edu (Bipin K Dalmia)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: fusion protein cleavage
Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:42:44 GMT
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In article <Ctz5Lt.3u7@kidec.cmb.ki.se>,
Carlos Ibanez <cib@kidec.cmb.ki.se> wrote:
> Is anyone out there working with proteins fused with glutathione S 
> transferase? My thrombin cleavage seems to be extremely inefficient. 
> I would appreciate any advise you could give me. I am doing the 
> cleavage in solution with free fusion protein (i.e. it is not bound
> to a matrix)
> 
> Thanks in advance. Please e-mail your replies to Leopold.Ilag@mbb.ki.se

what is the cleavage buffer? a 20 mM tris-hcl, pH 8.3 with 5 mM cacl2
works great. how long and at what temperature do you incubate? what is
your thrombin to fusion protein ratio? what thrombin are you using? i've
found that sigma's human thrombin (cat # T3010) at a 1:2000 weight
ratio, overnight at room temperature works nicely (greater than 90%
cleavage, estimated from sds-page). 

or maybe that the thrombin recognition site in your fusion protein is
buried. you may try partially unfolding your fusion protein by adding 1
to 2 M urea and cleaving it in presence of urea. the urea will decrease
the activity of thrombin also, so you'll have to add more of it.

bip
-- 
bipin k. dalmia               the other night i was lying on my bed, looking
bipin@iastate.edu             up at the beautiful stars, and i said to myself, 
n2.bkd@isumvs.iastate.edu     'where the F*CK is my ROOF !!'
--

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: bipin@iastate.edu (Bipin K Dalmia)
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Subject: Re: fusion protein cleavage
Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:45:26 GMT
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forgot to mention this in the previos post. 

make sure you don't have any protease inhibitors in your fusion protein
preparation (EDTA, PMSF, benzamidine, pefabloc etc.) any of these will
effectively inhibit thrombin.

bip
-- 
bipin k. dalmia               the other night i was lying on my bed, looking
bipin@iastate.edu             up at the beautiful stars, and i said to myself, 
n2.bkd@isumvs.iastate.edu     'where the F*CK is my ROOF !!'
--

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw (Meng-Juei Hsieh)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: How to do research on protein mechanism?
Date: 4 Aug 1994 19:25:37 GMT
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Can anyone tell how many method to do research on
protein mechanism?

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: mpueyo@freeport.uwasa.fi (Maria Pueyo)
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Subject: RE. West Blotting
Date: 4 Aug 1994 15:46:17 GMT
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My name is Maria and I'm working in a biochemist departement
in Spain.
I usually do blottings by diffusion. I transfer proteins of 20
Kd to 100Kd. If you are interested i can give you all explanation.
My address is
	mpueyo@freeport.uwasa.fi

I hope this will be useful for you.

-- 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 03 23:00:00 1994
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From: "TROMBETTA, LOUIS D" <ZHLTPHS@sjumusic.stjohns.edu>
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Subject: 2nd Ab for rat tissue - Westerns
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Hi.
We are doing western's against rat proteins. Can anyone recommend
a source of labelled antibody. The labelled antibodies we are now using
stain nonspecifically against liver. We are using a Biotin-Strepavidin
antimouse secondary antibody. We are seeing bands without primary
antibody - major bands in the 70 and 100 kD range. Any suggestion?
Thanks.


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!CC.IITB.ERNET.IN!chyusia
From: chyusia@CC.IITB.ERNET.IN
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: query on programs like DISMAN DIANA etc
Date: 5 Aug 1994 23:45:01 -0700
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dear netters,
i would like to know if programs like DISMAN, DIANA,DISGEO meant
for distance geometry calculations work on PCs (PC 486). if so
what are the hard ware requirements. also i would be very thankful
if somebody would tell me where i could get programs like ECEPP/2
(hydration shell model included). this would be of a great help to
me for studying the conformational features of small peptides.

thanking you in advance

ramkrishna
graduate student
email: rama@cc.iitb.ernet.in

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From: dunten@rose.bmc.uu.se (Pete Dunten)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: How to do research on protein mechanism?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 19:04:12 GMT
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>Can anyone tell how many method to do research on
>protein mechanism?

There are 327 ways, and you must learn them all before
you graduate.  

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: GOODE@ZOOL.UMD.EDU ("Dr. Dennis Goode")
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Subject: Re: 2nd Ab for rat tissue - Westerns
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On Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:14:57
> "TROMBETTA, LOUIS D" <ZHLTPHS@sjumusic.stjohns.edu> wrote:
> Hi.
> We are doing western's against rat proteins. Can anyone recommend
> a source of labelled antibody. The labelled antibodies we are now using
> stain nonspecifically against liver. We are using a Biotin-Strepavidin
> antimouse secondary antibody. We are seeing bands without primary
> antibody - major bands in the 70 and 100 kD range. Any suggestion?
> Thanks.
 
 We have seen non-specific staining with the Biotin-strepavidin 
system also.
 We have obtained high specificity and sensitivity by using 10-nm 
gold labeled secondary antibodies (Jannsen's GoatARab or GAMouse) 
followed by silver enhancement with the Intense-BL silver enhancement 
chemicals (sold by Ammersham). Another advantage is the blots don't 
fade. The antibodies are somewhat more expensive, but worth it, in my 
opinion.
Hope this helps,
Dennis

"It takes all the running you can do to stay in one place. 
If you want to get somewhere else, you must run twice as fast."
-The Red Queen to Alice (Lewis Carroll) 





From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: xipe@crash.cts.com (Xipe Press)
Subject: HIV and whey protein
Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 21:26:57 GMT
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	At Xipe Research, we have been actively pursuing work done examining 
the effects of dietary whey protein on several important areas of human 
health.  We are most impressed with its beneficial properties for athletes, 
cancer patients, and those advanced in years.  Specific to this group, 
however, are findings by a number of researchers on the effects of this 
protein on those with HIV or AIDS.
	The studies we have examined in this area primarily focus on the 
beneficial property of weight gain in HIV positive individuals.  As you may 
know, one of the most debilitating effects of the HIV is a rapid loss of 
weight, specifically, the loss of lean muscle mass.  This loss of muscle 
mass weakens the body not only physically, but makes the individual 
vulnerable to a host of new problems and illnesses.  Several studies have 
shown that the clinical administration of undenatured whey protein as a 
dietary supplement leads to significant weight gain in HIV positive 
individuals.  These studies show a gain in these patients between roughly 5 
and 15 pounds.  Some of the patients involved with these clinical trials 
have even attained ideal body weight as a result.  The obvious side effect 
was an increased energy level, and thus, productivity, and an overall 
improvement in health.
	Other studies have focused on whey protein's enhancement of immune 
system function.  Specifically, whey protein has been shown to enhance the 
antibody-producing ability of B-cell lymphocytes, stimulate Helper T-cell 
lymphocytes, and, in a secondary effect, increase the activity of Killer 
T-cells.  All of this has been related to the nature of whey protein, which 
is high in glutamylcysteine groups.  Cysteine is crucial to the body's 
synthesis of glutathione, the real agent in all of this.  And as very few
 food proteins contain glutamylcysteine groups, we have not only been 
researching whey protein more thoroughly for proof of its benefits, we have 
been looking for other dietary sources of these agents.
	We are interested in discussion and information regarding all 
aspects of whey protein, including other works that confirm the findings we 
have uncovered, projects involving the protein currently in progress, other 
benefits of the protein that we have overlooked, and where, if at all, we 
may find a commercially produced undenatured whey protein.  We have seen a 
great number of dietary whey proteins, mostly marketed towards high-stress 
athletes, but none that we have encountered so far have been appropriate, 
as the process by which the product was produced leaves the protein 
denatured, and useless for the purposes of our inquiries.
	We have placed similar postings in other related newsgroups to 
generate as much information exchange and discussion as possible.  It is our 
intent, as well, to contact appropriate mailing lists, but due to the 
massive amount of mail we will receive through the mail servers, we will 
attempt to contain ourselves to the public newsgroups.  Anybody with 
information we may be interested in, however seemingly unimportant, or with 
questions as to just what the heck we're talking about, feel free to 
respond.

Thanks
Xipe Research
xipe@crash.cts.com


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: steeg@cs.toronto.edu ("Evan W. Steeg")
Subject: Re: How to do research on protein mechanism?
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In article <31rfbh$s6d@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> mjhsieh@life.nthu.edu.tw (Meng-Juei Hsieh) writes:
>
>Can anyone tell how many method to do research on
>protein mechanism?
>

  1. Apply for grants.

  2. Get grad students to do lots of work.

  3. Have your post-doc explain the results to you.

  
     -- Evan


-- 

Evan W. Steeg                             steeg@ai.toronto.edu
Dept of Computer Science                  
University of Toronto,                    Tel:  (416) 978-5182
Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4                   FAX:  (416) 978-1455

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: dunten@rose.bmc.uu.se (Pete Dunten)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Salt Links vs. Hydrophobic Interactions?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:45:26 GMT
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:: I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
:: protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
:: important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
:: disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
:: like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
:: succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

:	Presumably the salt bridge is buried, since its in the interface.
:Removing that will leave a buried charge, which will be massively unstable (
:I can dig out a ref or a ballpark figure if you like). I think this would be
:your best bet. 

Sounds good but life isn't always so predictable!  See the work on attempts
to disrupt the insulin hexamer, which included introducing a negative charge
in each monomer at the center of the hexamer.  J Cryst Growth  Vol 122 (1992)
144-151.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!agate!spool.mu.edu!vms.csd.mu.edu!6566FRIEDMAN
From: 6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Help Converting Enzymekinetics
Date: 5 Aug 1994 14:29:34 GMT
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I recently obtained a copy of Enzymekinetics from the Indiana FTP site.  After
Bin Hexing and unstuffing the program, I obtained what appeared to be a
functional hypercard stack.  However when ever I attempted to enter data, a
window popped up saying that I needed to "convert"the stack before new data
could be entered.  Since this software has no menu bar, I have now idea how to
convert the data; any suggestions?

Alan Friedman
Dept. Biology 
Marquette University
Milwaukee, WI
6566FRIEDMAN@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: bjd12@cus.cam.ac.uk (Ben Davis)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Salt Links vs. Hydrophobic Interactions?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 08:38:27 GMT
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Yasha Hartberg (YMH4375@zeus.tamu.edu) wrote:
: I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
: protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
: important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
: disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
: like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
: succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

	Presumably the salt bridge is buried, since its in the interface.
Removing that will leave a buried charge, which will be massively unstable (
I can dig out a ref or a ballpark figure if you like). I think this would be
your best bet. 
	Just asked around - the consensus of opinion is yes, mutate out the salt
bridge. Removal of a buried salt bridge destabilises by ~4 kcal/mol. To
minimise disruption of the monomer structure, try mutating the acidic
residue to its amide counterpart (eg Glu --> Gln, Asp --> Asn). This should
work fine, and not cause too many side effects.
	If the salt bridge isn't buried, life is going to be harder. You'll have
to disrupt the hydrophobic interface, and your running the risk of either
still forming dimers, or disrupting the monomer stucture. 
	Hope this helps.

	Ben

: Yasha Hartberg
: Texas A&M University

--
______________________________________________________________________________

Ben Davis,
MRC Protein Function and Design,
Cambridge, UK
______________________________________________________________________________

"They can make me do it, but they can't make me do it with dignity."

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Path: biosci!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!sci.kun.nl!ronsmul
From: ronsmul@sci.kun.nl (Ronald Smulders)
Subject: CBB staining mechanism
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Dear protein experts,

As you all know, Coomassie brilliant blue is a very popular dye for 
protein staining. However, in our lab nobody seems to know how CBB
interacts with a protein. I assume this interaction is non-covalent,
but I would  like to know whether CBB 'recognizes' certain residues
or just binds to peptide bonds or something. Thanks is advance for
your reply.

Ronald (ronsmul@sci.kun.nl)

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 04 23:00:00 1994
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From: lluis@aaRS (Lluis Ribas)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Salt Links vs. Hydrophobic Interactions?
Date: 5 Aug 1994 16:49:01 GMT
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Yasha Hartberg (YMH4375@zeus.tamu.edu) wrote:
: I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
: protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
: important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
: disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
: like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
: succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

: Yasha Hartberg
: Texas A&M University

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Aug 05 23:00:00 1994
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From: smith@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Albert Smith)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Protocol for Fluorescently Labeling Antibody Wanted
Followup-To: bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts
Date: Sat, 06 Aug 1994 15:58:19 +0100
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I want to directly conjugate some rabbit polyclonal antisera with
rhodamine and/or fluorescein.  I have gotten the appropriate succinimidyl
esters from Molecular Probes and would like some insight into methods that
I can use to label my antisera.

In a first attempt I tried to combine fluorescent labeling with affinity
purification.  I generated a protocol similar to one used for affinity
purification/biotinylation of antibodies described in BioTechniques
13:546-8.  But I didn't end up with labeled antibody.  I know that my
affinity purification protocol alone works, so the problem is with the
fluorescent dye coupling.  

Can anyone provide an appropriate protocol for fluorescently labeling an
antibody.  I would be interested in protocols that combine affinity
purification with labeling as well as protocols for solely labeling the
antisera.

As an aside, would a succinimidyl ester be reactive with nitrocellulose? 
The biotinylation protocol mentioned above used a combination of
nitrocellulose and a succinimidyl ester and ended up with biotinylated
antibody.  For that reason I attempted my labeling with a rhodamine
succimidyl ester and protein immobilized on nitrocellulose.  The end
product of my conjugation was a very red piece of nitrocellulose, which
makes me wonder if I had labeled the filter better than the protein.  Does
this theory hold any water?  I am not a chemist by any stretch of the
imagination, so I ask this question out of complete naivete.

Thanks for any information,
-bert

-- 
smith@minerva.cis.yale.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Aug 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick)
Subject: Announcing Scientist Friendly MS-Windows Internet Kit
Message-ID: <1994Aug7.031046.24953@dmp.csiro.au>
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
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ANNOUNCING SCIENTIST FRIENDLY MS WINDOWS INTERNET KIT 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(One stop Winsock Shop)

QUICK INSTALL :-

----
Obtaining the files.

anonymous ftp to :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/internet/all/internet.exe
(192.68.132.2)

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/internet/floppy/internt1.exe
sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/internet/floppy/internt2.exe

US mirror (expires in October) :-
ftp://ftp.alumni.caltech.edu/pub/dank/internet-kit/internet.exe
(ftp.alumni.caltech.edu:/pub/dank/internet-kit)

---

Installing the files :-
(the -d option is very important as this creates
subdirectories and puts files in their correct place).

internet  c:\  -d

or

internt1  c:\  -d
internt2  c:\  -d

-----



1.  INTRODUCTION

2.  GETTING THE SOFTWARE VIA ANONYMOUS FTP

3.  ASSUMED KNOWLEDGE FOR INSTALLATION

4.  WHAT SOFTWARE IS IN THIS KIT

5.  BEFORE STARTING

6.  NETWORK HARDWARE AND PC/SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS

7.  TO INSTALL OR NOT TO INSTALL THE TRUMPET WINSOCK?

8.  LOADING ALL THE SOFTWARE ONTO YOUR PC

9.  INSTALLING TRUMPET WINSOCK

         THE WINSOCK INSTALLATION BEGINS

10. INSTALLING THE INTERNET SOFTWARE

      ADDING THE WINDOWS PROGRAM ICONS

      HGOPHER

      WS_FTP
 
      TRMPTEL
  
      Wintrumpet Newsreader

      WinQVT

11. FINISHED!

=========================================

INTRODUCTION

This might help people who are trying to find
MS-Windows internet software without having to
browse several different sites and go through
several different installation procedures.

This is version 1.00 of this one-stop-shop 
so please be on the lookout for any
errors.  Also, suggestions of new software
and/or viewers for MOSAIC and GOPHER and how to
install them would be appreciated.

-------

GETTING THE SOFTWARE VIA ANONYMOUS FTP

This Scientist friendly MS Windows internet kit available
by anonymous ftp from :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/ms-win-internet-kit/all/internet.exe  (2181885)
(192.68.132.2)
(All the files in one pkzip self extracting exe file).

US mirror (expires in October) :-
ftp://ftp.alumni.caltech.edu/pub/dank/internet-kit/internet.exe
(ftp.alumni.caltech.edu:/pub/dank/internet-kit)

or

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/ms-win-internet-kit/floppy/internt1.exe (1200132)
sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/ms-win-internet-kit/floppy/internt2.exe (994559)

(Files to fit onto 1.2 Meg (and thus 1.44 Meg) floppy
disks).  

All the software packages given in this kit is either
public domain software or shareware.  Some of this
software is deliberately not the most recent versions.
But it has been found to work reliably and be fairly
easy for a "casual" MS-Windows user to install.

Please email if there are any errors in the installation.

-----

User friendly internet software is also available for
Mac users at :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/mac

And (friendly?) UNIX software also at :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/unix

-----------------------------

ASSUMED KNOWLEDGE FOR INSTALLAION

Some basic knowledge of the internet is required as well
as editing with Windows Notepad.  It also assumes
you know how to use anonymous ftp to get the files.
If not - consult you local PC/internet guru who
should be able to help you.


--------------------------------------------------

WHAT SOFTWARE IS IN THIS KIT

This kit includes :-

Trumpet winsock  - shareware TCP-IP software  (one of the best!)

WINQVT - mainly telnet (but has other services - i.e., POP mail, NEWS, FTP)
         (you can print telnet screens to printer with ALT F2)

NCSA Mosaic WWW client - old 16 bit version with picture viewer
                         pre-installed. (easy to load).  A new fast
                         32 bit version is available but requires Win32s
                         to be installed prior to use for Win 3.1 and 3.11.

HGOPHER  - gopher client software

WINTRUMPET - presently the best user-friendly Usenet newsreader 
              around (Also has decent POP Mail) (my opinion only).

WS_FTP     - Very user friendly FTP program (point and click).

TRMPTEL    - Simple no-frills VT100 telnet program.

--------


BEFORE STARTING (you must consult your system manager).

You need to know :-

Your network's "Domain Name"

Your logon name - for telnet.

Your Email address.

The IP address and name of your PC

The IP address and name of your Name Server.

The IP address and name of your Gateway.

The IP address and name of your News Server
(Your system manager will have to edit the
news server's nntp_access file to allow your 
PC to get news from the news server)

The IP address and name of your Mail (SMTP/POP) Server.

---

NETWORK HARDWARE AND INSTALLATION REQUIREMENTS

This assumes that your PC has a correctly installed ethernet
card and a link into the internet.  SLIP is also possible 
via a PC serial port but your internet vendor would have 
to give you installation instructions.  If you do not
have Winsock already running, it assumes packet drivers are
already installed and correctly configured.

While it can be changed with user modification, this installation
also assumes that :-

MS-Windows is installed in the c:\windows directory.  

That you have at least 6 Meg free hard-disk on the C:\ drive.

----

TO INSTALL OR NOT TO INSTALL THE TRUMPET WINSOCK?

A very brief (and possibly inaccurate) explanation of WINSOCK.

The winsock protocol (Winsockets) is the "standard" TCP-IP 
protocol for MS-Windows to allow running of internet and 
network software that is Winsock complient.

If you already have winsock(tcp-ip)  installed on your system,
ignore the following winsock installation procedures.

If you are using another network protocol such as Windows for
Workgroups NDIS drivers, PCNFS, etc, consult your system manager
on how to get Winsock on your system.
(i.e., ignore the following winsock installation procedures).

For Windows for Workgroups 3.11 - a Microsoft 32 bit 
beta (bit flakey) winsock is available  from :-
sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/ms-winsock/MTCPB3.EXE
(192.68.132.2)
(self extracting exe file).
(i.e., ignore the following winsock installation procedures).

Note that some network software supports winsock by default.
This includes Frontier Technology's Super TCP for Windows.
(i.e., ignore the following winsock installation procedures).

If you have Windows NT - buy the TCP-IP pack from Microsoft
which gives you winsock by default.
(i.e., ignore the following winsock installation procedures).

If you have no network protocol installed or just have
packet drivers installed - try applying the winsock installation
procedures which follow.

-------


LOADING ALL THE SOFTWARE ONTO YOUR PC.

Assuming you have already ftp'd the software over :-

Go into the directory or drive the file is located and
type (this creates subdirectories) :-
(the -d option is very important as this creates
subdirectories and puts files in their correct place).

internet  c:\  -d   <enter>

For floppy disk files.

internt1  c:\  -d
internt2  c:\  -d

This will load files into your c:\windows directory.

mosaic.ini
hgopher.ini
internet.grp

vt220.fon
wnnetdll.sym
wnqvtnet.sym

Into your c:\windows\system directory

vt100.fon
wnnetdll.sym
wnqvtnet.sym

And will also create the following directory structure
with files installed in their correct place :-

c:\tmp
c:\temp
c:\internet
c:\internet\annotate
c:\internet\autoexec
c:\internet\ethernet
c:\internet\ethernet\ne2000
c:\internet\ethernet\ne2000\pktdrv
c:\internet\ethernet\smc
c:\internet\ethernet\smc\diagnose
c:\internet\ethernet\smc\ezsetup
c:\internet\ethernet\smc\pkt_drv
c:\internet\gopher
c:\internet\mail
c:\internet\mosaic
c:\internet\mosaic\lview
c:\internet\mosaic\wham
c:\internet\mosaic\wplany
c:\internet\news
c:\internet\qvtnet
c:\internet\vt100
c:\internet\windows
c:\internet\windows\system
c:\internet\winsock
c:\internet\wintrump
c:\internet\ws_ftp

------------------

     INSTALLING TRUMPET WINSOCK

This is for a PC with network/ethernet card
correctly installed and configured with packet 
drivers installed with packet vector pointing to
0x60.  If you do not know what these
are, consult your PC networking guru.  

If you do not have a packet driver for your
ethernet card - a large list of packet drivers are at :-

sol.dmp.csiro.au:/pub/ms-winsock/pkt_drv

Packet drivers and sample autoexec.bat modifications
are given with the internet kit for two common network
cards - ne2000  and  WD/SMC Elite plus.

DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER NETWORK
PROTOCOL INSTALLED - THIS WILL CAUSE SERIOUS TROUBLE.


AGAIN - BEFORE STARTING (you must consult your system manager).

You need to know :-

Your network's "Domain Name"

Your logon name - for telnet.

Your Email address.

The IP address and name of your PC 

The IP address and name of your Name Server.

The IP address and name of your Gateway.

The IP address and name of your News Server
(Your system manager will have to edit the
nntp_access file to allow your PC to get news
from the news server)

The IP address and name of your Mail Server.

----------------

THE WINSOCK INSTALLATION BEGINS.
IGNORE THIS IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER NETWORK SOFTWARE RUNNING).

Assuming that you have your packet driver correctly installed.

---

Use the Windows notepad to edit c:\autoexec.bat

Directly after the packet driver line add:-

c:\internet\winsock\winpkt 0x60

Save the file and exit.

---

EDIT (using notepad) C:\INTERNET\WINSOCK\TRUMPWSK.INI

Where indicated :-
Add your PC's IP address, gateway IP address, 
dns (domain name server) IP address, and the 
domain name.

Save and exit the file.

----

Copy the c:\internet\windows\protocol file to c:\windows
Copy the c:\internet\windows\services file to c:\windows
Copy the c:\internet\windows\hosts    file to c:\windows

----

Use Notepad to edit the c:\windows\hosts   file.

Add the IP and Name of your PC.
Add the IP and Name of the  DNS (domain name server)
Add the IP and Name of the  Gateway

Save and exit the file.

---

Go into the STARTUP FOLDER.

Add a new ICON by File, New - and Browse to the
c:\internet\winsock\ directory and select
the tcpman.exe file.  Click on the Run Minimized
button and press OK.

Now exit Windows and re-boot your computer.

When you run Windows again -  you will have Winsock/TCP-IP
running and can use a variety of internet software - 
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

=========================
=========================

INSTALLING THE INTERNET SOFTWARE.

----

ADDING THE WINDOWS PROGRAM ICONS

In Windows.

Add a new folder (Program Group) with the name "Internet Kit"
and Group File of  -  internet.grp.

You will now have a new folder called "Internet Kit"
with all the icons correctly installed.  Do not run any 
of them yet as they still have to be configured.

-------

HGOPHER

Gopher will run quite OK.  If you wish to change
the homepage, go into Options, Gopher Setup and 
enter the home page you wish to see on startup.

-------

WS_FTP

This will work Instantly.  The only host there is
to anonymously log into sol.dmp.csiro.au.

Add other hosts as you desire.

-------

TRMPTEL  (telnet program)

This will work without configuration.  Just type
in the host you wish to log into.  If you wish
to log into a host all the time, use File Properties
to add the host in the Command Line.

-------

MOSAIC WWW (World Wide Web) Client.

The LVIEW gif, jpg, etc picture viewer is already
correctly installed.

Use notepad to edit the c:\windows\mosaic.ini file.

Add your email address on the second line. Mosaic
will now work properly with your real email
address should you use this option 
You can now go wild on the WWW.  
There are other options you can modify -
but this will start you off quite happily.

-------

Wintrumpet Newsreader.

When you run WinTrumpet, you will be prompted for
information such as your :-

News Host Name
Mail Host Name
Your Email Address
Full Name
Organisation

(Your signature file is at c:\internet\sig.txt,
use notepad to edit this file).

The rest is optional and depends if you want to
use WinTrumpet as your POP mail program).

You will then be prompted for newsgroups to add.

Select a couple immediately to test out your NNTP
connection (i.e., sci.chem.electrochem).

-------

WINQVT.

Use notepad to edit the c:\internet\qvtnet\qvtnet.ini
file.  Search for ??? and replace as required.  It
occurs in this order :-

PC host name.

PC IP Address.

Router/Gateway

Domain Name

Name Server (Domain Name Server)


The rest is optional depending of whether you want to
Use QVTNET also as a mail program, ftp client and/or server,
newsreader and talk to a line printer.

------

FINISHED

In theory, you have now completed the installation.

Good luck!  :-)

-------

Standard disclaimers apply - user is 100% responsible for any 
hassles, problems or loss of data.  
(It might not be lawyer proof but it will let
me sleep nights!)  :-)

-------------------------
-- 
Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO     _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU 
Division of Mineral Products   /      \ tel +61 3 647 0367 
PO Box 124, Port Melbourne     \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223 
3207 AUSTRALIA                       v    

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Aug 06 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!daresbury!not-for-mail
From: <SPAGNOL@PLAUTO.CSATA.IT>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: PNGaseF
Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:09:48 +0100
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Dear netters,
I'm looking for a good protocol for deglycosilating a glycoprotein with 
PNGase F. The one in Current Protocols for M.B. did not work in my hands and
is also a little bit imprecise.For istance it says: add 1
e protein, w
ithout specifiyng in what should it be diluted. Pleas post to me by E-Mail or to
the Newsgro
ill compile a summary. Thanks.
Giorgio Spagl
Sorry, Giorgio Spagnol
SPAGNOL@PLA
UTO.CSATA.IT

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Aug 06 23:00:00 1994
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From: cmf5@cornell.edu (Casey M. Finnerty)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: PLASMID DRAWING SOFTWARE
Followup-To: bionet.molbio.proteins
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 1994 17:24:59 -0500
Organization: Boyce Thompson Institute at Cornell University
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In article <00982579.31DDA6E0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu
wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a good Macintosh program for drawing plasmids? Are
> any available in the public domain from FTP sites?
> 
> Thanks,
> Alan Friedman
> 6566Friedman@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU 

MacPlasmap is quite good. You can get it direct from the author (Jingdong
Liu) at Jliu@bioscience.utah.edu or I think it's available in the IUBio
and/or EMBL archives. I believe the program is free with the caveat that if
you like it the author requests you send him 25 bucks.
-- 
Casey M. Finnerty
Boyce Thompson Institute at Cornell University
cmf5@cornell.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: rgs@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Robert Solomon (Bioc))
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Salt Links vs. Hydrophobic Interactions?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 08:43:27 GMT
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In article <YMH4375-040894134644@sewild1.tamu.edu> YMH4375@zeus.tamu.edu (Yasha Hartberg) writes:
>I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
>protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
>important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
>disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
>like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
>succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Yasha Hartberg
>Texas A&M University

Yasha,

I would advise disrupting the hydrophobic interface, if there is a substantial
surface area involved, replacing the residues with a mix of charged and
polar residues.  If you just remove the salt bridges, you will leave this
surface intact, and it will probably cause no dimer disruption at all, or
non-specific aggregation.

Just a thought floating through the ether,

Rob Solomon

Std disclaimer:  The opinions expressed are those of the author - my employer
will deny my existence if pushed on the matter.

<.sig deleted due to loss of sense of humour>





From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!rutgers!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!malgudi.oar.net!witch!abr!jstiehr
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Reply-To: jstiehr@abr.win.net (James Stiehr)
From: jstiehr@abr.win.net (James Stiehr)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 15:49:46 GMT
Subject: Sequence/hydrophilicity Software
Lines: 17

I am looking for comments, sugestions, experiences, etc. about
software (DOS or Windows) for amino acid sequence aligment for
multiple proteins as well as hydrophilicity plotting for peptide
selection of antigenic epitopes.

I know of PC/Gene and Lasergene.  Both companies are sending info,
but both are very expensive (PC/Gene = ~$3500, Megline & Protean
modules of Lasergene = ~$2500). Does anyone have experience with
either of these or with any other suppliers which can do the same
thing?  Are there any freeware programs for these application
available on the Net? Any opinions would be welcome.

Also is there a way to search Genebank or other databases for
proteins which share a peptide sequence on the Net?  If so, how
would a newbie like me go about doing this? 

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

James Stiehr                            \\    // 
Affinity BioReagents                      \  / 
Internet:jstiehr@abr.win.net               ||  
908-369-3799, 908-369-8894 (FAX)           || 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 07 23:00:00 1994
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From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick)
Subject: SCA - "CRYSTAL XIX" - Ballarat Australia - April 1995
Message-ID: <1994Aug8.084900.15720@dmp.csiro.au>
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
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                          CRYSTAL XIX

          First Announcement of the Nineteenth Meeting
                             of the 
            Society of Crystallographers in Australia



                     18 - 21 April, 1995

              University of Ballarat, Victoria



INTRODUCTION

The Organising Committee invites all crystallographers to 
attend the Nineteenth Meeting of the Society of 
Crystallographers in Australia. The conference will be held 
at the University of  Ballarat in country Victoria, from the 
evening of Tuesday the 18th of April ('Easter Tuesday') to 
lunchtime on Friday the 21st of April, 1995.


THE VENUE

Ballarat University is set on 110 hectares of natural 
bushland about 10 km south east of the city of 
Ballarat.  Very pleasant on-campus accommodation is provided 
by the Mount Helen Residence, capable of accommodating 514 
people in single bed/study rooms at about $23 per night (room 
only).  Common room and games room, kitchen areas, laundries 
and outdoor barbecue facilities are available in the 
residential complex. Numerous motels and other forms of 
accommodation are available within a few km of the campus.

The University has a full range of lecture and seminar 
facilities. It also has full AARNet access,and e-mail and 
Internet access can be easily arranged on request for all 
participants. Excellent recreational facilities are available 
including fully equipped gymnasia, jogging and walking tracks 
and an Arboretum. All meals are provided by the University's 
catering service and  fully licensed  bar facilities serve 
the various function rooms.


TRANSPORT

Ballarat University is one and a half hours drive from the 
centre of Melbourne. There are up to six shuttle bus services 
per day from Tullamarine airport to Ballarat. Cost, about $15 
each way. Numbers permitting, these buses will detour to the 
University campus. The committee will help coordinate private 
car transport from Melbourne. Train and private bus services 
also run from the centre of Melbourne to Ballarat.


TENTATIVE COSTS

The Conference Committee has obtained a favourable arrangement 
with the University to keep costs to a minimum. The 
University has its own catering system for all meals at 
reasonable prices. Drinks are at normal bar prices. We 
anticipate that the all inclusive cost of accommodation plus 
meals from Tuesday evening to Friday lunch will be less than 
$250 per person. Tentative registration costs are $100 for 
normal registration and $50 for students. 


SCIENTIFIC PROGRAM

The Conference Lecture will be presented by the 1987 Fellow, 
Dr. Michael Hart. In addition to the usual topic areas 
(protein crystallography, inorganic and mineral structures 
etc) we welcome contributions in areas such as

	Applications of synchrotron radiation

	Structure studies using less traditional methods such as 
                XANES, EXAFS, MASNMR, DAFS

	Structure determinations using TEM/SAED and ND

	Crystallographic teaching

	New developments in crystallographic hardware/software

1995 is the centenary of the discovery of X-rays and the 
Australian Academy of Science is sponsoring a conference 
celebrating this event in the week following Crystal XIX. We 
envisage that a special lecture will be devoted to 
commemorating this event in the Australian context. Further 
details will be given in the second circular.


SOCIAL PROGRAM

This will include a mixer (with possibly a wine tasting) on 
the Tuesday evening and the conference dinner on the Thursday 
evening. The Conference Lecture will be presented on 
Wednesday evening, allowing a free afternoon on Wednesday for 
various activities which could include visits to Sovereign 
Hill, to the Pyrenees Wineries and a tour of Ballarat and its 
surrounds. We will be seeking delegates preferences at the 
time of registration.


ABSTRACTS/REGISTRATION

Registration forms and a call for abstracts will be sent out 
at the end of October and the deadline for the submission of 
both will be 1st February 1995.  


CONTACT PERSON

Further information can be obtained by contacting 
Lachlan Cranswick at CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, 
PO Box 124, Port Melbourne, Victoria 3207.
Phone (613) 647-0211, Fax (613) 646-3223, 
e-mail: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au


ORGANISING COMMITTEE

Lachlan Cranswick (see above)

Ian Grey 	CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Port Melbourne
		Phone (613)-647-0211, Fax (613)-646-3223
		e-mail:   iang@dmp.csiro.au

Mike Lawrence	Biomolecular Research Institute, Parkville
		Phone (613)-342-4200, Fax (613)-342-4301
		e-mail:   mike@rox.mel.dbe.csiro.au

Andrew Stevenson	 
                CSIRO Division of Materials Science and 
                Technology, Clayton
	        Phone (613)-542-2917, Fax (613)-544-1128
		e-mail:	  stevens@rivett.mst.csiro.au

Jonathan White	Melbourne University, Chemistry Department, 
                Parkville
		Phone (613)-344-4621, Fax (613)-347-5180
		e-mail:  jonathan_white@muwayf.unimelb.edu.au



We thank Nikki Scarlett and Neil Manning for their help with 
the preparation of the first circular.

-- 
Lachlan Cranswick  -  CSIRO     _--_|\  lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU 
Division of Mineral Products   /      \ tel +61 3 647 0367 
PO Box 124, Port Melbourne     \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223 
3207 AUSTRALIA                       v    

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
From: jm@ambident.demon.co.uk (Jonathan Montagu)
Path: biosci!daresbury!doc.ic.ac.uk!warwick!pipex!demon!ambident.demon.co.uk!jm
Subject: Protein folding and AI
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Can anybody suggest some references on the theoretical prediction of
protein conformations using artificial intelligence (eg
genetic algorithms)?  Is the 'Brookland Protein Database' on the 
Internet?  Many thanks,   

Jonathan Montagu            
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E-mail: jm@ambident.demon.co.uk      
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!ARSERRC.GOV!CTHOMPSON
From: CTHOMPSON@ARSERRC.GOV
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Subject: Research
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Does anyoneone have any ideas on what would be a good graduate school to  
do collagen rsearch with?  
Thanks,
Craig Thompson
CTHOMPSON@arserrc.gov

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
Path: biosci!ARSERRC.GOV!CTHOMPSON
From: CTHOMPSON@ARSERRC.GOV
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Subject: telopeptides
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Does anyone know where or what the sequence is for the C-telopeptide and
the N-telopeptide for type(I) collagen?
Thanks,
Craig Thompson
CTHOMPSON@arserrc.gov 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: szeinfel@FOX.CCE.USP.BR (Rafael N Szeinfeld)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Protein folding and AI
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	See Protein Engineering 7(4):475-485 (1994). Hope this help.

					Rafael.

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              # Department of Biochemistry         #
              # University of Sao Paulo, Brasil.   #
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On Tue, 9 Aug 1994, Jonathan Montagu wrote:

> Can anybody suggest some references on the theoretical prediction of
> protein conformations using artificial intelligence (eg
> genetic algorithms)?  Is the 'Brookland Protein Database' on the 
> Internet?  Many thanks,   
> 
> Jonathan Montagu            
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> E-mail: jm@ambident.demon.co.uk      
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 08 23:00:00 1994
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From: arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Protein folding and AI
Date: 9 Aug 1994 19:41:23 GMT
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>Can anybody suggest some references on the theoretical prediction of
>protein conformations using artificial intelligence (eg
>genetic algorithms)?  Is the 'Brookland Protein Database' on the 
>Internet?  Many thanks,   

GA:s have been used by:
Dandekar & Argus, Sun, LeGrand & Merz, Bowie & Eisenberg
all during the last year for protein folding simulations.
It works OK

Neural Nets have been used:
XX & Sander and XX & Karplus for secondary structure prediction.
Others have used NN:s for predicting other stuff (including long-range
contacts, don't ask me how they did that)

It works as good as any other method.

arne
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From: JMANGOR@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (Jodie Mangor)
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I am in need of protocols for preparing ACTIVE total protein extracts from
insect muscle (Manduca in particular).  I may also need to prepare ACTIVE
extracts from the nuclei and cytoplasm separately, but I don't know that yet. 
If anyone has any protocols, please forward them to
CASCONE@marlin.bio.umass.edu -- please do not send the info to this address --

thanks a lot!!!! P. Cascone 



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Arne Elofsson (arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu) wrote:

: Neural Nets have been used:
: XX & Sander and XX & Karplus for secondary structure prediction.
: Others have used NN:s for predicting other stuff (including long-range
: contacts, don't ask me how they did that)

: It works as good as any other method.

: arne

  I have no experience with Karplus's methods, but I have used extensively
  most of the available secondary structure prediction algorythms an I have
  to disagree with your statement.
  While I could hardly see any difference with the methods of Chou&Fasman,
  GOR (Garnier, Osguthorpe & Robson), McLachlan, etc. etc., PhD 
  (the Rost&Sander method using neural
  networks) works definetely better. If you have good alignments for your
  problem sequence the predictions are astonishingly good, particularly
  for beta-strands, which are a traditional weak point of the older
  methods based on pure statistics. 
  Of course, still far from what we'd like it to be, but certanly better.

                     best regards, LLuis


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I intend to purify a protein with an immunoaffinity column. Current Protocols
in MB states that the ratio Ab/Activated sepharose in the columnn should be
2mg/ml. To me seems such an exaggerated quantity of antibody that I suspect a
Typing mistake,but I'm not so sure of myself. Is anybody out there willing to
offer his expertize? Cordially, yours
Giorgio Spagnol
Spagnol@plauto.csata.it

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ggg=======`y                   In article <31af6s$a78@obelix.cica.es>, pmateo@ugr.es(Pedro L. Mateo) writes:
>

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: manuel@scripps.edu (Manuel Baca)
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Subject: what unit is "pkat"
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Can anyone tell me what the units "pkat" are? I have seen it used in an
enzyme kinetics paper as the Vmax units. Any enlightenment would be much
appreciated. Many thanks,

Manuel Baca
Scripps Research Institute
La Jolla CA 
manuel@scripps.edu


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I am attempting to purify a protein from bovine pituitaries.  I have been using
primarily gel filtration and reverse phase HPLC.  I have also done some pilot
experiments with cation-exchange HPLC, isoelectric focusing, and gel
electrophoresis.  Most of the reverse phase HPLC has used trifloroacetic acid
or heptaflorobutyric acid.  I am starting to try reverse phase HPLC at less
acidic or neutral pH using ammonium acetate or triethylamine.  Has anyone done
this, and do you have any helpful advice.  Thanks.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: mcdonald@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (Ian McDonald)
Subject: HBPLUSv3.0 Hydrogen Bond Calculator
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HBPLUS v 3.0
************

Hydrogen Bond Calculation Program
=================================

Introduction
============

HBPLUS is a hydrogen bond calculation program that has been developed
in-house over the course of over four years and has been used in
countries as diverse as the USA, Taiwan and South Africa. It . . 

 o Calculates the Geometries of all Hydrogen Bonds 
 o Optionally Lists of Neighbour Interactions 
 o Calculates Hydrogen Positions 
 o Deals with Hydrogens that can Occupy More Than one Position 
 o Optionaly includes amino-aromatic H-bonds. 
 o Supports Full Customisation, eg of 
    o H-bond criteria
    o Donor and Acceptor Atoms types
 o Analyses H-bonding Near Asn, Gln and His Side-Chains and Suggests
   Optimal Conformation 
 o Supports .hbplusrc Files 
 o Outputs PDB File Including Extrapolated Polar Hydrogen Positions 

Technical Side
==============

It is written in ANSI C and has been checked on several UNIX systems
as well as VAX/VMS. It unfortunately requires too much memory to run
on an IBM PC or an Apple Macintosh.

If you would like a copy of HBPLUS, simply download the 
confidentiality agreement, sign it, snailmail it to me and I'll email
you a password that you can use to un-crypt the ftp-able
hbplus.tar.Z.cr file, after loading it to disk as a binary file. The
agreement essentially promises not to give anyone outside your lab
copies of HBPLUS, and to reference us if you use HBPLUS results in a
paper - HBPLUS is free to academic users. HBPLUS compiles using a
makefile.

This release also includes ACCESS to determine accessible surface
areas, and CLEAN to tidy Brookhaven files. These programs are written
by other people and also covered by the confidentiality agreement. 

ftp: bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk (128.40.46.11) /pub/hbplus
WWW: <http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/~mcdonald/hbplus/>

Copyrights
==========

HBPLUS is (c) I.K. McDonald, D. Naylor, D. Jones and J.M. Thornton
1994
ACCESS is (c) S. Hubbard 1992-4
CLEAN is (c) D.K. Smith, R. Laskowski and G. Hutchinson 1992-4

Reference
=========

I.K. McDonald and J.M. Thornton (1994), "Satisfying Hydrogen Bonding
Potential in Proteins", JMB 238:777-793. 

mcdonald@bsm.bioc.ucl.ac.uk

Confidentiality Agreement
=========================

Correspondence to:
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Biological Structure and Modelling Unit
Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
University College London
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Email mcdonald@uk.ac.ucl.bsm


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From: pemakine@cc.Helsinki.FI (Pekka Makinen)
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Subject: Re: what unit is "pkat"
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manuel@scripps.edu (Manuel Baca) writes in bionet.molbio.proteins:
]Can anyone tell me what the units "pkat" are? I have seen it used in an
]enzyme kinetics paper as the Vmax units.

       pkat = picokatals

       Katal is unit of enzyme activity defined as 1 kat = 1 mol/s.

-- 
_____________________________________________________      Be realistic!
Pekka.Makinen@Helsinki.FI pemakine@kruuna.helsinki.fi  Demand the impossible.

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From: rndy@wimsey.mmid.ualberta.ca (Randy Read)
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Subject: Re: Protein folding and AI
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In article <328m53$16l@news.mic.ucla.edu> arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne  
Elofsson) writes:
> 
> GA:s have been used by:
> Dandekar & Argus, Sun, LeGrand & Merz, Bowie & Eisenberg
> all during the last year for protein folding simulations.

Also Unger & Moult, "Genetic algorithms for protein folding simulations",  
Journal of Molecular Biology.  231(1):75-81, 1993.

Randy Read
rndy@mycroft.mmid.ualberta.ca

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 09 23:00:00 1994
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From: 6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: Solved Problem w/ Enzymekinetics
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I finally solved the problem I was having with Enzymekinetics, a hypercard
stack that plots enzyme kinetic data as V vs [S] or 1/V vs 1/[S].  Initially
I used Hypercard version 2.1 and got error messages upon entering my data.  
However, when I used an old version of hypercard, version 1.2.1 (1987), the 
program ran just fine.  The software does exactly what it claims to do, but
will only plot a single data set on a plot.  Therefore, data containing 
various inhibitor concentrations can not be plotted together.  Nevertheless,
I think this program is a usefull teaching tool for introductory biochemisty
courses.

Alan Friedman
Dept Biology
Marquette University
6566FRIEDMAN@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU

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From: rdoe@waste_time.edu (Robert Doe)
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Subject: Immunoaffinity
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It's not a typo, 2mg mAb per ml of hydrated, activated Sepharose
 is OK.  Personally, I use 5-10 mg mAb per ml.  Smaller columns
 per given quantity of mAb yield material that is more pure, after
elution.  If your mAb is limiting, I've used a coupling density of 
as low as 0.5 mg/ml gel.  Buy the CNBr activated Sepharose from
Sigma, not Pharmacia.

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From: 6566friedman@vms.csd.mu.edu
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Subject: Review of MacPlasmap
Date: 10 Aug 1994 15:29:04 GMT
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In a recent posting, I asked about Macintosh plasmid drawing software 
recommendations.  Several of you suggested MacPlasmap which is 
available from <ftp.bio.indiana.edu> as  macplasmap.hqx, a binary, 
compressed file in the directory /molbio/mac.  

	The program comes complete with a detailed manual and a small 
library of the most commonly used plasmids, including pBR322, pUC19, 
pBluscript SK, M13mp18.

	MacPlasmap uses the typical Macintosh graphical interface and is 
easy to use.  The user has the option of modifying an existing plasmid map 
or starting a new map from scratch.  Various tools, including restriction 
site, polylinker, fragment insert and fragment delete allow you to add and 
delete all of the usual map features into a circular or linear map.  Genes, 
ORIs, selectable markers etc. are indicated by arcs along the circular map 
and can be arrowed and stippled in various patterns.  The only significant 
complaint that I have concerns the gene dialog box; the width of the gene is 
determined by clicking and dragging a bar; a numerical adjustment is not 
provided, making it difficult to accurately adjust the width of various 
inserts on the same map and even more difficult between different maps.

	This criticism not withstanding, I highly recommend MacPlasmap 
Version 1.82, written by Jingdong Liu at the University of Utah.  It is 
provided as $25 shareware; a great value.  It is easy to use, keeps track of 
the map position of various features, includes a note tool for your record 
keeping and provides publication ready output to a Laserwritter.

Alan Friedman
Dept Biology
Marquette University
6566FRIEDMAN@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU


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In article <D0n1l2j024n@ambident.demon.co.uk>, jm@ambident.demon.co.uk (Jonathan Montagu) writes:

>  Is the 'Brookland Protein Database' on the 
>Internet?  Many thanks,   
>
>Jonathan Montagu            
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You'll probably mean the Brookhaven Protein Databank. Yes, i'ts availible. FTP
to pdb.pdb.bnl.gov or use Gopher.

Flip



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From: jm@AMBIDENT.DEMON.CO.UK (Jonathan Montagu)
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Rafael

Many thanks for the reference.  This, and another list will provide lots
of papers.

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IIn article <32853t$621@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, <SPAGNOL@PLAUTO.CSATA.IT> writes:
|> I intend to purify a protein with an immunoaffinity column. Current Protocols
|> in MB states that the ratio Ab/Activated sepharose in the columnn should be
|> 2mg/ml. To me seems such an exaggerated quantity of antibody that I suspect a
|> Typing mistake,but I'm not so sure of myself. Is anybody out there willing to
|> offer his expertize? Cordially, yours
|> Giorgio Spagnol
|> Spagnol@plauto.csata.it

I have previously used cyanogen bromide activated sepharose from SIGMA (I think?) and they also advise that 2mg/ml protein will be bound. I managed to get around 2,.4mg/ml bound so the figure you quote is not unreasonable

ASM

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From: mmd@cmgm.stanford.edu (mdavis)
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Subject: How to Generate Streptavidin Tetramer Coordinates?
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Keywords: Streptavidin structure

I'd like to look at the streptavidin tetramer structure on the
computer screen, but the pdb file (1stp) has only the coordinates of
the monomer.  I don't know if the appropriate symmetry operators
are in the pdb file to generate the other three monomers.

Can anyone help me out with this?
John Altman
altman@cmgm.stanford.edu

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Yasha, 

I was going to follow up my earlier posting with a more detailed reply
through email, but your address, as below, does not work - drop me a
line.

RSol

In article <YMH4375-040894134644@sewild1.tamu.edu> YMH4375@zeus.tamu.edu (Yasha Hartberg) writes:
>I want to use site-directed mutagenesis to disrupt dimer formation of a
>protein I'm studying.  I have a choice between either disrupting several
>important salt-bridges or putting in several hydrophilic residues to
>disrupt the hydrophobic interface.  Before I design the oligos, I would
>like to hear some advice as to which approach seems the most likely to
>succeed.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
>Yasha Hartberg
>Texas A&M University



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From: navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy Navarre)
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Subject: Protein accumulating at stacking gel interface
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We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?

Thanks a lot

Roy

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From: duncan cochran <cochran@biosci.uq.oz.au>
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Subject: WHAT IF
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Does anyone use WHAT IF by Gert Vriend at EMBL? Can I ask you a few
questions for example: where do you get it ? Please reply to
cochran@biosci.uq.oz.au.  
Thanks Duncan

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From: Dress@biosci.arizona.edu (Virginia Dress)
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In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy
Navarre) wrote:
> 
> We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
> them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
> We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
> separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
> gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
> Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Roy

I've got 2  thoughts Roy (may be a record):
				1)  Adding urea to sample to help denature the protein
				2)  Gradient gels, of course you haven't said what % running gel you
are
										using.  If you are already using 4% stack and a 6% gel, this may
										not help very much.


Good luck


Ginnie

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From: edbeaty@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ed beaty)
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Subject: Re: Protein accumulating at stacking gel interface
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In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy
Navarre) wrote:
> 
> We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
> them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
> We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
> separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
> gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
> Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?
> 
> Thanks a lot
> 
> Roy

The same thing happens when I silver stain gels; there's a distinct dark
band at the interface between stacking and separating gels.  I don't know a
way around this, except to try running the gel without using a stacking
gel.  If your sample volume is fairly small, you should still get fairly
tight bands.  Of course, the proteins that didn't make it into the
separating gel will probably be stuck at the bottom of the loading well...

Just an idea.
Ed Beaty
edbeaty@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: rravi@uh.edu (Ravi Ramachandran)
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Subject: Peptide mapping
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Hi!,

I am interested in doing peptide mapping, and as I have never done
this before, I would be extremely grateful if anyone out there
could suggest any protocols to use. Either post to this newsgroup
or send me email at "rravi@uh.edu". Thanx en avance!
:)
ravi

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Subject: Re: True or False
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In article <32domc$62f@mserv1.dl.ac.uk> writes:"I intend to purify a protein with an immunoaffinity column.
Current protocols in MB states that the ratio ab/activated
sepharose in the column should be 2 mg/ml. To me seems such an
exaggerated quantity of antibody that I suspect a typing
mistake, but I am not so sure of myself. ... "

My experience is: 2 mg affinity ligands (AL) per ml CNBr
activated sepharose 4B is a minimum amount for coupling, 5-10 mg
/ml is even better. After coupling your antibody to the
beads/matrix, you will have to block excess active groups on the
beads by other amino group containing chemicals (OC), such as
ethanolamine, amino acids, Tris, etc. but not proteins!  More AL
in the coupling, higher proportion of AL to OC on the matrix,
which would give you a better result when purifying your protein
(an antigen).
Other factors, e.g. matrix type, coupling buffer, ratio of
buffer:gel, pH and temperature also affect coupling.

Best wishes.

D.H.W.

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In article ID: <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> writes:

"We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried. We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?"

Probably it was caused by problems in sample preparation. 
Add some Triton X-100 in extraction buffer, centrifuge at >10000 xg, and filter with glass-fibro not cellulose filter.

	Also check the pH and SDS concentration in the seperating and stacking gels.

	Best wishes.

D.H.W

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Subject: Re: Protein folding and AI
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In article <D1h-Lxj024n@ambident.demon.co.uk> 
jm@AMBIDENT.DEMON.CO.UK (Jonathan Montagu) writes:
>Rafael
>
>Many thanks for the reference.  This, and another list will provide lots
>of papers.
>
>Jonathan Montagu            



I must have missed the posting with this apparently useful reference.
Can someone please repost this.  Thanks



Normand Cloutier
(cloutier@mit.edu)


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From: mskidmore@ucsd.edu (Michael Skidmore)
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Subject: Multiphor II Reswelling Cassette
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We just got a Pharmacia Mutiphor II and I am trying to run an Immobililine
Dry Plate gel. I can't seem to set up the reswelling cassette with just
half a gel. It leaks right where the plastic support is cut. The book says
it's okay to just cut a gel in half and since they run around $115/ 3 gels,
I would really like to do this. I tried using some really strong alligator
clips but it still doesn't work.

-- 
Michael SKidmore                                         (619)534-1894
UCSD, Dept of Pathology                             mskidmore@ucsd.edu
La Jolla CA 92093-0612

"Standard orbit, Mr. Sulu"

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In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy Navarre) writes:

>Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>Roy

If your radiolabeled proteins are aroud 100 kD and op top of that also 
heavily glycosylated, they will not go into your running gel whatever
you do! Maybe you should do some gelfiltration analysis first.

Flip


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From: agmclen@liv.ac.uk
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I am sure this must be an FAQ, but does anyone have an opinion on the best way
to remove unbound and bound SDS from proteins recovered from a preparative SDS
polyacrylamide gel that is mild enough so that significant renaturation and
recovery of enzyme activity can ultimately be achieved?
Thanks

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I'm thinking about doing some binding studies with peptides.  I was wondering,
if the computer-predicted structure of the region in question is a alpha
helix, how many turns should be maintained?  Can the binding still occur
if the full length protein predicts a 4 turn helix but the peptide is predicted
to be only 2 turns?  Please email your reponses to mcmahan@oncology.wisc.edu.
Thank you.

Scott McMahan

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navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy Navarre) writes:

>We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
>them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
>We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
>separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
>gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
>Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?

>Thanks a lot

>Roy

Roy,
This is fairly commonly observed with chloroplast preparations.  What 
we (and other groups) have found is that there are three things which 
seem to help.

1.  Include a fairly high concentration of dithiothreitol in the 
denaturing solution rather than 2-mercaptoethanol.  I just put some 
DTT on the end of a spatula and add it to the sample in a microfuge 
tube with the denaturing solution.

2.  Don't boil the samples.  We heat at about 80 C for 30 to 60 min.

3.  Including urea (at least 4 M) in the gel.

I hope this helps solve your problem.

John

--
John Markwell			Phone: 402-472-2924
Dept. Biochemistry		FAX:   402-472-7842
University of Nebraska		Internet: markwell@unl.edu
Lincoln, NE  68583-0718

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From: Suzanne_Rodday@brown.edu (Suzanne Rodday )
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You might try Extracti-Gel D Columns for removing detergents.  They 
are made by Pierce (800-874-3723 USA; 31.1860.19277 Europe).  They
work great for removing Tx-100 and other detergents!	

Suzanne Rodday
Brown University

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From: gerard@rigel.bmc.uu.se (Gerard Kleijwegt)
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Subject: Re: WHAT IF
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In article <32hmfp$sip@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au>, duncan cochran <cochran@biosci.uq.oz.au> writes:
|> Does anyone use WHAT IF by Gert Vriend at EMBL? Can I ask you a few
|> questions for example: where do you get it ? Please reply to
|> cochran@biosci.uq.oz.au.  
|> Thanks Duncan

Gert Vriend's E-mail address is:

Gert.Vriend@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE

I'm sure he'll tell you all about it !

--gerard

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From: spang@vms.biochem.mpg.de (Anne Spang)
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I have had some good experiences with dialysis or using Centricon
Concentrators to change the buffers and to remove SDS.

Hope it helps!

Anne
In article <CuB7Ar.5Mp@liverpool.ac.uk>, agmclen@liv.ac.uk wrote:

> I am sure this must be an FAQ, but does anyone have an opinion on the best way
> to remove unbound and bound SDS from proteins recovered from a preparative SDS
> polyacrylamide gel that is mild enough so that significant renaturation and
> recovery of enzyme activity can ultimately be achieved?
> Thanks

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In article <mskidmore-130894113903@mskidmor.extern.ucsd.edu>, mskidmore@ucsd.edu (Michael Skidmore) writes...
>In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy
>Navarre) wrote:
> 
>> We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
>> them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
>> We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
>> separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
>> gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
>> Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?
> 
>Tried using a gel with no stacking at all? We get nearly the same separtion
>using Novex precast 12% tris-glycine gels that we get with the regular
>Lammeli gel. Difference is that they don't have a pH difference in the
>stacking gel. There is just a portion of low% acrylamide that focuses, sort
>of like a short gradient gel. You don't have to use one of their rigs
>either. We run them in BRL Mini V8 rigs.
>- 
>Michael SKidmore                                         (619)534-1894
>UCSD, Dept of Pathology                             mskidmore@ucsd.edu
>La Jolla CA 92093-0612
> 
>"Standard orbit, Mr. Sulu"

	The idea suggested above may just work.  There is many reasons why the
proteins will get stuck in the interface.  A common reason for people that uses
butanol to overlay their separating when polymerizing is that it is very hard to
get all of it out before you pour the stacking gel. Apparently the butanol resi-
dues cause some proteins to precipitate and thats the end of the story.
	To avoid that I always overlay my gels with water. It works just as well

Good luck

Jaime Arenas
Division of Biology
CALTECH




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In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy
Navarre) wrote:

> We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
> them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
> We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
> separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
> gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
> Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?

Tried using a gel with no stacking at all? We get nearly the same separtion
using Novex precast 12% tris-glycine gels that we get with the regular
Lammeli gel. Difference is that they don't have a pH difference in the
stacking gel. There is just a portion of low% acrylamide that focuses, sort
of like a short gradient gel. You don't have to use one of their rigs
either. We run them in BRL Mini V8 rigs.
- 
Michael SKidmore                                         (619)534-1894
UCSD, Dept of Pathology                             mskidmore@ucsd.edu
La Jolla CA 92093-0612

"Standard orbit, Mr. Sulu"

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From: DCRCEP@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Elmer M. Price)
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In article <32f20a$1q5@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>
navarrer@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Roy Navarre) writes:
 
>
>We are radiolabelling proteins in plants and then extracting
>them in an aqueous extraction buffer. The samples are never dried.
>We are finding a large amount of radioactivity at the stacking gel
>separating gel interface. Ie whatever this is, enters the stacking
>gel, but not the separating gel. (SDS-PAGE)
>Any suggestions as to how to get this material to enter the gel?
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>Roy
 
 
 
Hi Roy
 
 
Just my two cents worth
 
 
Use a SDS-PAGE sample buffer with 6M urea, 2% SDS and 150mM DTT (plus the
usual 60 some odd mM Tris, pH 6.8)
 
Do not heat AT ALL, just sit on the bench for 30-60 minutes with occasional
vortexing.
 
 
Hope this helps
 
 
Elmer
 
 
 

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In article <mskidmore-110894213145@mskidmor.extern.ucsd.edu> Michael
Skidmore, mskidmore@ucsd.edu writes:
>We just got a Pharmacia Mutiphor II and I am trying to run an
Immobililine
>Dry Plate gel. I can't seem to set up the reswelling cassette with just
>half a gel. It leaks right where the plastic support is cut. The book
says
>it's okay to just cut a gel in half and since they run around $115/ 3
gels,
>I would really like to do this. I tried using some really strong
alligator
>clips but it still doesn't work.

I use the imobilone strips for IEF and use a standard glass test tube, 
siliconized, for reswelling and it works OK.
I would suggest you try a siliconized glass tray instead of the cassette. 
Just be sure to add enough reswelling solution to cover the gel and cover 
the ray with some wrapping.

Lars.S@Plantbio.lu.se, Plant biochemistry, Lund University
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Hi,
	Regarding SDS removal from protein solutions...  Try Pierce "Extracti-
Gel" columns.  They are size-exclusion gels with an affinity for some
detergents, but are limited to perhaps 50 mg or so.  Good luck!

						Greg

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BSS169@BANGOR.AC.UK wrote:
: 1>
: Message ID: <CuB7Ar.5Mp@liverpool.ac.uk> says:
: **************************************************************************
: "I am sure this must be an FAQ, but does anyone have an opinion on the best 
: way to remove unbound and bound SDS from proteins recovered from a 
: preparative SDS polyacrylamide gel that is mild enough so that significant 
: renaturation and recovery of enzyme activity can ultimately be achieved?"
: **************************************************************************                                                              

etc ...

: 6. Ion-pair extraction, by mixtures of organic chemicals, see ref. 
:    W.H.Koigsberg et al. Methods in Enzymol. Vol.91, p.254. (claims 
:    complete removal of SDS).

I have had some experience removing SDS for mass spectrometry analysis of 
proteins.  MS is very sensitive to SDS complexed with proteins, which 
supresses protein ionization.  I have found that the method refered to 
above, which I have dubbed "the Konigsberg procedure" works very well 
with small amounts of protein.  It involves mixing the following solvent:

5:5:5:85  water:acetic acid:triethylamine:acetone (v/v).

Add an excess of the solvent to a dried sample of the protein and swirl it a 
bit on a vortex mixer.  Centrifuge the tube and remove the solvent.  If there
is no obvious solid in the tube, cool the tube for a while and 
re-centrifuge.  Wash the pellet with acetone several times and dry.  I 
have had good success with picomole-sized samples in 1 ml Eppendorfs.  I 
don't know if the protein was still active (although I doubt it), but it 
did give good MS signals.

Acetone & TCA precipitation and dialysis do not dissociate protein:SDS 
complexes and only remove the free SDS present in a sample.  Ion exchange 
chromatography can work very well, but reverse-phase HPLC can be a bit 
tricky (rHPLC doesn't much care for the presence of a lot of SDS).  

Just my few cents

Ron Beavis
Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine
New York University
beavis@is.nyu.edu

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1>
Message ID: <CuB7Ar.5Mp@liverpool.ac.uk> says:
**************************************************************************
"I am sure this must be an FAQ, but does anyone have an opinion on the best 
way to remove unbound and bound SDS from proteins recovered from a 
preparative SDS polyacrylamide gel that is mild enough so that significant 
renaturation and recovery of enzyme activity can ultimately be achieved?"
**************************************************************************                                                              

There are some methods to remove unbound and bound SDS:
1. Dialysis.
2. Precipitation, by TCA or aceton, but you may have to re-introduce some 
   other detergents to re-solubilize the proteins.
3. Ultrafiltration, by membranes with certain cut-off pore size, but protein
   recovery is low.  Try Amicon or Millipore.
4. Ion-exchange chromatography, by AG 1-X4, AG 1-X2 resins, try Bio Rad.
5. Ion-retardation chromatography, by AG 11 A8 resin, try Bio Rad.
   See ref. S.N.Vinogradov et al. (1983)? Methods in Enzymology, Vol. 91, 
   p.258.
6. Ion-pair extraction, by mixtures of organic chemicals, see ref. 
   W.H.Koigsberg et al. Methods in Enzymol. Vol.91, p.254. (claims 
   complete removal of SDS).
7. Methods based on electrophoresis. Run high percentage (e.g.30%) 
   non-SDS PAGE in big i.d. column, with frequent changes of anode 
   buffer which collects SDS. After PAGE, resolubilize or electro-elute 
   proteins from the gel. 

To remove unbound SDS from solution is quite easy, but to remove bound 
SDS from proteins completely is NOT.   

Significance of renaturation of proteins and recovery of enzyme activity 
varies from protein to protein, enzyme to enzyme, function to function 
(even by same protein/enzyme). Some are very sensitive to SDS, some are
not, e.g. endoproteinase glu-C (from Staphyloccus aureus V8) is fully 
active in SDS (2 mg/ml) at 25 C, and mostly active in SDS (5 mg/ml) plus 
6M urea at 0 C.  

Best wishes.

Dan H. Wu
School of Biol. Sci.
Univ. College of N. Wales,
Bangor, 
U.K.


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Aug 15 23:00:00 1994
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Hi,
   Sorry if this is mispalced.  I bought a book from Oxford university
press about a month ago at a conference  and they said they would send it
to me. It has been more than a month since i paid for the book and i
haven't recieved it yet.   I was wondering if anybody has their phone
number so i can check out what the deal is.  Email is probably prefered.

scott beeser
department of biology
university of utah

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 hello everybody

  I ve been purifying a protein that is supposed to be phosphorilated on
serine residues. I  am getting the protein but to make sure it s the
good one I'de like first to dephosphorilate it and see if I get the
apropriate MW ( the MW of the phospho and dephosphorilated forms are
known. Can anybody tell me what s the best way to do this . Many thanx
 
 
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