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From: ewright@FOX.NSTN.NS.CA ("Edwin Wright")
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Subject: Protein Classification
Date: 2 Jan 1995 11:52:32 -0800
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Does anyone know of a comprehensive reference which lists all the major
classifications of proteins with respect to superfamily, family,
subfamily, etc.?  Also, are any databases structured according to such
classifications?

Regards,
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Edwin Wright
85 Spinnaker Drive, A-602
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CANADA B3N 3E3

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kramerse@wmvx.lvs.dupont.com wrote:
: In article <259DED150FA@zool.umd.edu>, GOODE@ZOOL.UMD.EDU ("Dennis Goode") writes:

: Thanks in advance for any advice
: Susan Kramer

KODAK makes large (9") sheets of lens cleaning tissue
that are designed to not-leave-lint. (I suppose other 
vendors make them too, we use Kodak...)

Would these work?



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In article <3dcq27$omj@apollo.it.luc.edu>, gnew@orion.it.luc.edu (Gerri Newfry) says:
>
>Megan Oxberry (oxberry@numbat.murdoch.edu.au) wrote:
>: I am a PhD. student in Perth, Western Australia who is trying
>: desperately to purify tubulin for use in an assay to measure tubulin
>: polymerisation.  So far I have tried using the polymerisation/depolymerisation method of
>: Shelanski et al. (1973) and the homogenisation, centrifugation and
>: dialysis method of Barrowman et al. (1984), both of which have been
>: unsuccessful.
>: Megan Oxberry          oxberry@numbat.murdoch.edu.au

(Long responses by gerri...gnew@orion.it.luc.edu and 
Ginnie Dress@biosci.arizona.edu)
   
I have tried to rigorously follow the procedure of Williams and Lee, preparation
of tubulin from brain, Methods in Enzymology 85:376-385, 1982.  My only 
changes are that a) I pH the buffer at 6.6, and b) I store my 1XMTP in 3 M 
glycerol (PM3M buffer), and my 2XMTP in 0.4 M glycerol (PM0.4M buffer)  at
-80 C.  What the respondents are saying about brain freshness is right on
the money.  When I obtain brains, I have the person removing the brain dip
the brain into ice water first, then place in crushed ice.  I have used goat and
sheep brains as well as calf brains and the smaller animals' brains actually
have given me better MTP yields, presumably because their smaller brains
chill faster and thus retard tubulin degradation.  But if I can't get the brains 
homogenized within 1.5-2 hr after slaughter, yield and quality really drops off.
D. Murphy (Methods in Cell Biology 24:31-49, 1982) has graphed assembly vs
time and states: 'Ideally one should use brain tissue obtained within 20
min of slaughter'.  One other trick that I've read about (but don't remember
where) may be to add a protease inhibitor like PMSF to the initial homogenate
to minimize tubulin decomposition.     Good luck, SWM

mamber@synapse.bms.com

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From: dbwilson@uoguelph.ca (Daniel B Wilson)
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Subject: AChE, BChE mAbs
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I would much appreciate any information on where I might find monoclonal 
antibodies to acetylcholinesterase and/or butyrylcholinesterase.  Thank 
you in advance for your assistance.

DBW

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From: mleroux@unixg.ubc.ca (Michel Leroux)
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In article <9412291817.AA00636@wyatt.com>, wyatt@wyatt.com wrote:

> We would like to subscribe to newsgroup(s) that might be able to  
> answer questions on protein structure, size, molecular weights,  
> glycosylation, chromatographic separations, etc.  Is this the right  
> place to start?
> Many thanks!
> Phil Wyatt
> e-mail <wyatt@wyatt.com>

Yes it is! Another useful group, especially for asking technical questions
such as chromatography, etc., is the bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts group.

Welcome to the group.

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Subject: Re: molten state of proteins?
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In article <D1u8Mo.E1H@cyf-kr.edu.pl>, ubziobro@jetta (Rafal Ziobro) writes:
> I am looking for information about molten state of proteins.
> Please tell me where can i find it. Thanks a lot.
> 

I tried to reply directly to you, but my mailer doesn't like that idea,
so...


Try reading Tom Crieghton's text "Proteins..." or (better) the book he
editted on Protein Folding; follow up the refs. cited then flounder
about the literature: you'll find more refs. that you care to read.

Grant.

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In article <3e9oua$scr@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, dbwilson@uoguelph.ca (Daniel B Wilson) says:
>
>I would much appreciate any information on where I might find monoclonal 
>antibodies to acetylcholinesterase and/or butyrylcholinesterase.  Thank 
>you in advance for your assistance.
>
>DBW

A number of monoclonal antibodies to fetal bovine serum AChE
have been made by B.P. Doctor at the Walter Reed Army Hospital in
Washington.  Jacques Grassi in France also has a number of monoclonals
now.  The best commercially available one to mammalian AchE is the 
Fambrough antibody, AE1, available from Chemicon.

David Small
NH&MRC Research Fellow
Dept. of Pathology, University of Melbourne

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From: ubziobro@jetta (Rafal Ziobro)
Subject: molten state of proteins?
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I am looking for information about molten state of proteins.
Please tell me where can i find it. Thanks a lot.


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jan 02 22:00:00 1995
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  Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:00:13 -0600 (CST)
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  Subject: RE: molten state of proteins?
  
  Hi,
  
       Check out Creighton's book, "Protein Folding"  (W.H. Freeman, 1992),
  especially chapter 6.  There was also a good article in a recent Protein
  Science from Privalov's group, I believe.  Hope this helps you.  Best regards,
  
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields)
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Subject: Re: Westrn blot and quantification of protein.
Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:54:36 GMT
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Mary asks:
We are currently using western blots to determine expression of a protein.
Our antibody has not been impressive so far.  It has been suggested that
we use immunoprecipitation instead of the western technique.  Can
immunoprecipitation be used to compare amount of protein expression or is
the western the better way to go?  Thanks for your input.   Mary

------

Immunoprecipatation alone isn't going to give you much, you still need
some way to measure (or at least see) your protein expression.  You could
use immunoprecipitation and then run the sample on a gel and do a western.
It could be that your antibody is reacting with something else along with
what you're looking for.  Immunoprecipitation might get rid of what may be
interfering with the binding you want.  The problem with doing the 
immunoprecipitation before the western is that you may loose some of what
you're looking for (as will happen in any purification step which is
pretty much what an immunoprecipitation step does).  

You could give it a try, probably wouldn't hurt.  You might also want to
look at your technique and solutions as the problem could be there.

Good luck,

joan


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From: steeg@cs.toronto.edu ("Evan W. Steeg")
Subject: Pictures/coordinates for states in protein folding 
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  A friend of mine would like some pictures of a protein in several
different states of folding/unfolding.  She'd really prefer Cytochrome C,
but other proteins would suffice.  Otherwise, her needs are very
flexible:

  -- Intermediate states may be observed (NMR, etc.) or modelled (according
     to some accepted classical/qm simulation model).

  -- Pictures may be space-filling, or ribbon diagrams, or etc.

  -- Pictures in any unix-friendly format (gif, tiff, ppm, etc.)

 In addition to or in lieu of graphics, perhaps there is a database
of partially-folded structures somewhere, akin to the brookhaven pdb
of folded structure coordinate files?  I'm curious about this myself.

 Last but not least, can anyone recommend offhand a particularly good
paper on some theoretical or empirical aspects of folding that features
a sequence of pictures as described above (especially of Cyt C!) ?

  Thanks for any pictures, pointers, or references!  If I discover
anything especially interesting, I'd be glad to summarize and repost.

   Regards,

      Evan

Evan W. Steeg (416) 978-5182              steeg@ai.toronto.edu
Dept of Computer Science                  steeg@t13.lanl.gov
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: ksasaki@ncc.go.jp
Subject: Re: Address of Dr. Yonezawa and Sugiura at Kyoto, Japan
To: bionet-molbio-proteins@gan.ncc.go.jp
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>Does someone on the net know the address/e-mail/fax of Dr.Yonezawa and
>Sugiara who work on FokI DNA-binding domain at Kyoto University, Japan.

Dr. Yukio SUGIURA (Please note it is not SUGIARA)
                      ^^
Professor, Chemical Institute, Kyoto Univ.

snail-mail address:

Gokashou Uji-shi, Kyoto, JAPAN

Phone:

+81-774-32-3111 ex. 2217


Regards,

K.SASAKI, M.D.
Growth Factor Division
National Cancer Center Research Institute, Tokyo, JAPAN


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman)
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Subject: reprobe western blots
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Hello, Netters,

Can a western blot filter be "reprobed" like a Southern blot filter?  If
so, what is the best way to strip the original antibody?  I am using a
secondary antibody conjugated to alkaline phosphatase, and visualizing
with addition of color substrates NBT and BCIP.  I would appreciate your
response.

-fm


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From: nishir@ohsu.edu (Rae Nishi)
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In article <3daac4$1tu@neuro.usc.edu>
william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) writes:

> Is there a protocol to get proteins and RNA from the same tissue in one  
> step?  If you know of one, or can provide a reference, please let me know!
> Thanks.
> 
> -fm


With the TriReagent (from Molecular Research Corp) or Trizol from GIBCO
BRL you are supposed to be able to get RNA, DNA and protein in one
extraction.  We've only used in for isolating RNA but a colleague of
mine who tried it for RNA and protein said that it worked fine.

Rae Nishi
Dept. Cell Biology & Anatomy
Oregon Health Sciences University
Portland Oregon 97201
**that's Orygun, NOT Ora-Gone**

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Subject: Test-please ignore
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only test - please ignore!

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 03 22:00:00 1995
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From: vachon@bio.grenet.fr (Gilles VACHON)
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Hi all,

Does someone on the net know the address/e-mail/fax of Dr.Yonezawa and
Sugiara who work on FokI DNA-binding domain at Kyoto University, Japan.

Thanks
Dr. Gilles Vachon
Laboratoire de Biologie Moleculaire Vegetale
CERMO, 3eme etage
Universite J. Fourier, BP 53X
38041 GRENOBLE CEDEX
FRANCE
Tel: (33) 76 51 48 92
fax: (33) 76 51 43 36
e-mail: vachon@bio.grenet.fr


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From: reming@ncifcrf.gov (Mary Remington)
Subject: Westrn blot and quantification of protein.
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Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
 We are currently using western blots to determine expression of a protein.
 Our antibody has not been impressive so far.  It has been suggested that we
 use immunoprecipitation instead of the western technique.  Can immunoprecipitation be used to compare amount of protein expression or is the western the 
 better way to go?  Thanks for your input.   Mary
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	I have a question about coupling peptides to carrier proteins for use in
immunizations.  I am interested in using EDC to couple my peptides to BSA.  I
would like to know people's opinion of this method.  Is it tricky?  Is it a
fairly successful method?  I am worried about blocking free amino groups on
the peptide.  Is this necessary?  (Each of my 10mer peptides has at least two
internal lysines.)  I would appreciate any hints or comments.
Thanks,
Kristin Jenkins
Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
University of Arizona
hallicklab@tikal.biosci.arizona.edu



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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Being a newcomer to protein purification, I read about an enzymatic
method of cell lysis of E.coli that uses sucrose and spermidine
(Meth. Enzym. 182:149) but the scale is much too high for the 
amount of cells I have (pellet from ~2l).

Is there a similar method available that is appropriately scaled
down? Or should I use the above method at 1/200 volumes? Thanks
in advance.

- Dale Yuzuki M.A. M.Ed. - John Wayne Cancer Inst. - dale@jwci.org -   __@
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From: william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman)
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Subject: lab manual
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Hi, Netters,

Can you recommend a good biochemistry laboratory manual, equivalent to
the Sambrook and Maniatis manual for molecular biology?  Thanks for any
suggestions.

-fm


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
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Subject: Proteins and liquid chromatography
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Keywords: separations, aggregation, liquid chromatography

We are a small company that manufactures multi-angle laser light  
scattering detectors (MALLS) used in combination with chromatographically  
separated samples to determine their absolute molecular weights and sizes  
and the distributions of these quantities.  During the past few years, a  
great number of our colleagues seem to be increasingly interested in  
proteins and their characterizations.  (E. g. aggregation phenomena, self  
assembly, stability and just plain molecular weights of various  
preparation.)  We get a lot of complaints, not so much about the  
instruments, but about the chromatography itself and what the separation  
process is doing to the samples.  We're not experts in protein chemistry,  
but obviously feel we have a lot to learn both to help our customers and  
to interact better with the protein chemistry community.  Right now we  
have the following four questions and would be most grateful for any  
comments or suggestions a protein or biochemist might have:

Please be assured that this is NOT a commercial pitch, but it seems to  
touch on some pretty important measurements now going on in the protein  
community.
	
	1)  What do you think of the chromatographic separation process as  
a tool for characterizing protein samples (assuming that an absolute  
determination may result)? 
 
	2)  If you use such techniques, what type do you use?  (E. g.  
reverse phase, size exclusion, ion exchange, capillary electrophoresis)

	3)  Do you think the buffer and/or the mobile phase can (will)  
affect  the composition of your sample?  (E. g. might you detect  
aggregates that were not present in your sample?  Could some of the sample  
stick to the columns during the separation process itself?)

	4)  If a column structure could be developed  that would permit  
the use of any type of mobile phase without affecting the separation  
process itself (i. e. no sticking and no false aggregation), would that  
make such chromatographic techniques more attractive?  (We do NOT  
manufacture columns!)

Phil Wyatt
wyatt@wyatt.com

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: steeg@cs.toronto.edu ("Evan W. Steeg")
Subject: Re: Pictures/coordinates for states in protein folding 
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 If I may just follow up on my own posting of yesterday:

In article <95Jan4.201837edt.280@neuron.ai.toronto.edu>,
Evan W. Steeg <steeg@cs.toronto.edu> wrote:
>  A friend of mine would like some pictures of a protein in several
>different states of folding/unfolding.  She'd really prefer Cytochrome C,
>but other proteins would suffice.  Otherwise, her needs are very
>flexible:
>
>  -- Intermediate states may be observed (NMR, etc.) or modelled (according
>     to some accepted classical/qm simulation model).
>
>  -- Pictures may be space-filling, or ribbon diagrams, or etc.
>
>  -- Pictures in any unix-friendly format (gif, tiff, ppm, etc.)
>
> In addition to or in lieu of graphics, perhaps there is a database
>of partially-folded structures somewhere, akin to the brookhaven pdb
>of folded structure coordinate files?  I'm curious about this myself.
>
> Last but not least, can anyone recommend offhand a particularly good
>paper on some theoretical or empirical aspects of folding that features
>a sequence of pictures as described above (especially of Cyt C!) ?
>

  1. Lest there be any confusion... what I meant when I referred to
     various states of folding/unfolding was *well-characterized
     intermediates in the folding pathway*, and not "unfolded" or
     "random" configurations.  Obviously, it makes no sense to have
     a database of "unfolded" protein coordinates.

  2. I'm making this request for a friend who wants to do a research/reading
     project for a chemistry course.  I talked her into being interested
     in the protein folding problem (oops) and she is already thinking
     of how she might give her presentation if she does follow through
     on this nontrivial topic.  It would be nice if she could put up a
     couple of slides graphically illustrating the ("real" or hypothesized)
     folding of a particular protein.

  3. It occurs to me that, besides my friend's immediate needs, it may
     be of interest to others (myself included) if there exists any
     database of either graphics (e.g., a WWW site) or databases of
     proposed or discovered intermediate structures.

   Thanks again for your attention.

     -- Evan

Evan W. Steeg (416) 978-5182              steeg@ai.toronto.edu
Dept of Computer Science                  steeg@t13.lanl.gov
University of Toronto,
Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4                   FAX:  (416) 978-1455


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: anon
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Subject: Re: reprobe western blots
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 1995 15:43:18 -0800
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In article <3eg2t9$8hl@neuro.usc.edu>, william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) wrote:

> Hello, Netters,
> 
> Can a western blot filter be "reprobed" like a Southern blot filter?  If
> so, what is the best way to strip the original antibody?  I am using a
> secondary antibody conjugated to alkaline phosphatase, and visualizing
> with addition of color substrates NBT and BCIP.  I would appreciate your
> response.
> 
> -fm

   I think this method causes a precipitate to form, and you can't strip
and reprobe when using this method.
 
 
 .
.

.
.
.
.
.
.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: crta@xnet.com (Norman Fraley)
Subject: New Research & Testing Association Formed
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As the primary resource of research information, the Internet was the
primary choice for making all concerned individuals aware of the formation
of the Contract Research & Testing Association.

CRTA is an International Association designed to serve the needs of contract
research, product and process development organizations and consultants
throughout the world.  Contract research organizations have specific public,
governmental, and industry perception and promotion needs which are not addressed
by existing scientific industry associations.  CRTA operates as a non-profit,
tax-exempt, corporation eligible for scientific research and public awareness
charitable organization contributions as provided for in the IRC 501(c)(3) provisions.

Being a scientific research and public awareness related organization, CRTA
exists to benefit its members by providing:

  1) An organization devoted to the promotion of Contract Research.
  2) A unified voice on matters of common interest or concern.
  3) Point of contact for media relations relative to contract research.
  4) Business opportunity referrals as a research clearinghouse.
  5) Professional networking opportunities for its members.
  6) Periodic publishing of information beneficial to the membership.
  7) Periodic dissemination of applicable research results to the public.
  8) Governmental representation on issues affecting CRO's.
  9) Public promotion of the strengths of its membership.
 10) A directory of Contract Research Organizations and Consultants.

CRTA will provide:
  1)  A forum for the exchange of information.
  2)  Formal recognition to the CRO's role in business.
  3)  Standards for the professionals so engaged.
  4)  Representation the profession in matters of common interest.
  5)  The development of techniques and methods to improve the practice and
      management of CROs.

CRTA will also offer:
  1)  A monthly news publication.
  2)  Annual meetings
  3)  Active promotional media publicity programs.
  4)  A professional placement service
  5)  A Contract Research Service Directory.
  6)  Media topics and contacts directory

If you have an interest in joining the Contract Research & Testing Association,
please E-mail your reply to crta@xnet.com.  Please include:

1) The word "membership" in your RE: or header information,
2) Your interest in the association / your area of work,
3) Your dues payment preference (check, money order, credit card, company check, wire xfer, etc.)
   DO NOT INCLUDE ANY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION!  Only your preference for the manner of payment.
4) Most importantly, your email address, and additional contact information if you desire.

We will then e-mail membership information and ALL FURTHER INFORMATION
directly to you at your email location.  Thank you for taking the time
to read this announcement.  If membership in this program this does not
appeal to you, thank you for your patience and understanding.

Sincerely,
Membership Department
Contract Research & Testing Association


Best Regards,

Norman Fraley                                         CRTA@xnet.com
Executive Director                                   BBS:708-515-0494
Contract Research & Testing Association

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: ttha@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Thatcher)
Subject: Re: reprobe western blots
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In <anon-0501951543180001@hammer.biochem.uci.edu> anon writes:

>In article <3eg2t9$8hl@neuro.usc.edu>, william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) wrote:

>> Hello, Netters,
>> 
>> Can a western blot filter be "reprobed" like a Southern blot filter?  If
>> so, what is the best way to strip the original antibody?  I am using a
>> secondary antibody conjugated to alkaline phosphatase, and visualizing
>> with addition of color substrates NBT and BCIP.  I would appreciate your
>> response.
>> 
>> -fm

>   I think this method causes a precipitate to form, and you can't strip
>and reprobe when using this method.
> 

You could reprobe with a second antibody (to a different protein) without
stripping as long as you used primary and secondary antibodies with
different specificities

eg.  Ab#1 from rabbit<<goat-anti-rabbit-alk phos
     Ab#2 from mouse<<goat-anti-mouse-alk phos

You need before and after pictures to know which bands are new.  Or, use
a second step that causes a different color reaction.

You can strip the Abs with the same stuff you use to strip affinity columns
(low pH glycine, etc.) but you won't get rid of the first color bands
themselves.

-- 
Tom Thatcher                          | You can give a PC to a Homo habilis,
University of Rochester Cancer Center | and he'll use it, but he'll use it
ttha@uhura.cc.rochester.edu           | to crack nuts.

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From: phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Protein characterization using variants of HPLC
Date: 6 Jan 1995 03:17:37 GMT
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Keywords: protein,HPLC,molecular weights

We are a small company that manufactures multi-angle laser light  
scattering detectors (MALLS) used in combination with chromatographically  
separated samples to determine their absolute molecular weights and sizes  
and the distributions of these quantities.  During the past few years, a  
great number of our colleagues seem to be increasingly interested in  
proteins and their characterizations.  (E. g. aggregation phenomena, self  
assembly, stability and just plain molecular weights of various  
preparation.)  We get a lot of complaints, not so much about the  
instruments, but about the chromatography itself and what the separation  
process is doing to the samples.  We're not experts in protein chemistry,  
but obviously feel we have a lot to learn both to help our customers and  
to interact better with the protein chemistry community.  Right now we  
have the following four questions and would be most grateful for any  
comments or suggestions a protein or biochemist might have:

Please be assured that this is NOT a commercial pitch, but it seems to  
touch on some pretty important measurements now going on in the protein  
community.
	
	1)  What do you think of the chromatographic separation process as  
a tool for characterizing protein samples (assuming that an absolute  
determination may result)? 
 
	2)  If you use such techniques, what type do you use?  (E. g.  
reverse phase, size exclusion, ion exchange, capillary electrophoresis)

	3)  Do you think the buffer and/or the mobile phase can (will)  
affect  the composition of your sample?  (E. g. might you detect  
aggregates that were not present in your sample?  Could some of the sample  
stick to the columns during the separation process itself?)

	4)  If a column structure could be developed  that would permit  
the use of any type of mobile phase without affecting the separation  
process itself (i. e. no sticking and no false aggregation), would that  
make such chromatographic techniques more attractive?  (We do NOT  
manufacture columns!)

Phil Wyatt
wyatt@wyatt.com





From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Jan 04 22:00:00 1995
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From: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga)
Subject: Enzymology
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From: Giovanni Maga, Biochemistry, University of ZŸrich-Irchel ZH (CH)

Dear Netters,
my main scientific ineterest and work is devoted to enzyme kinetics. In the
last years I have been working with enzymes involved in nucleotide
biosynthesis in viruses, mammals and protozoa. Currently, I am working with
mammalian DNA polymerases. Is anybody out there interested in corresponding
(i.e. discussing problems, giving hints, helping to develope new
approaches) about this fascinating topic? I have lots of questions and
maybe some answers. If so, please E-mail at:

maga@vetbio.unizh.ch

Thanks again and Happy New Year!!

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From: ingber@alumni.caltech.edu (Lester Ingber)
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Subject: Re: New Research & Testing Association Formed
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Norman:
 
I like the concept of what you are trying to form, and so I would like
to explain why I will not join now, but might be interested at some
future time.  My criticism is meant to be constructive, and I hope it
will be accepted in this context.
 
Since I think your organization is a great idea, I'm making my response
public so that other researchers who might be turned off by some of
these problems in your presentation also will keep an open mind to
joining your organization in the future.  (You really did span quite
few  bulletin boards!)
 
: From crta@xnet.com Thu Jan  5 21:47:00 1995
: Return-Path: <crta@xnet.com>
: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:46:55 -0600
: From: Norman Fraley <crta@xnet.com>
: To: ingber@alumni.caltech.edu
: Subject: Membership  information for CRTA
:
: Dear Mr. Ingber
:
: WHAT IS CRTA?
:
: CRTA, formally known as the Contract Research and Testing Association, is
: an
: international scientific organization whose primary objective is to build
: awareness of the role of contract research in industry and in society,
: represent the industry in matters of common interest and to provide a forum
: for the exchange of ideas and techniques in the fields of Testing and
: Applied
: Research.
 
If you are appealing to a large audience over the InterNet, you should
follow some commonly accepted guidelines, e.g., delivering text in a
most readable format, e.g., limiting lines to 79 characters, so that
lines do not spill over on most 80-character screens.
 
This is the most vital context of my critique, that you will not come
across as a knowledgeable and professional organization unless you
present yourself as such.
 
For example, I put your 424-line e-mail reply to my follow-up to this
posting through ispell, and here is a partial list which also does not
register in `webster`:
        copywrite
        lnternational
        nonanalytical
        nonmicrobiology
        proovided
        spectroscopists
        toxicologists
 
: CRTA is known for the efforts it has made in helping to promote the new and
: rapidly growing industry of contract research.  This is accomplished by a
: network of nearly 700 commercial, industry, government, and academic
: laboratories and individual product and process development consultants.
: These promotional activities and other CRTA programs offer you, the
: technical
: professional, avenues for professional growth and recognition that only an
: organization of CRTA's caliber can provide ... plus access to a wellspring
: of
: analytical, research and technical information.
 
I question whether you already have such a membership, or this is what
you aspire to?  This is a reasonable question.  Many people, like
myself, are more sympathetic to an honest statement from a new
operation, than to misleading advertisements.
 
I note a number of journals and publications you (intend to?) make
available, and I expect they have a price.  Your fees for members of
$125/yr is fair, if all these services are available now.  All this is
fine, but those prices should be stated up front.
 
: Email:  crta@xnet.com
: WWW:  www.xnet.com/~crta
 
I tried this site, http://www.xnet.com/~crta, and found a short notice
that it is under construction.  I think it better to first do your
homework, before advertising such a site, especially since you really
are charging commercial rates for a commercial venture, your non-profit
status notwithstanding.
 
: copywrite 1994 Contract Research & Testing Association.
 
This one is a real killer, demonstrating that you are not sensitive to
one of the main concerns of contract research, the copyright (not the
"copywrite").
 
Lester

In article <D1yCnp.2G6@amiserv.chi.il.us>, Norman Fraley <crta@xnet.com> wrote:
:As the primary resource of research information, the Internet was the
:primary choice for making all concerned individuals aware of the formation
:of the Contract Research & Testing Association.
:
:CRTA is an International Association designed to serve the needs of contract
:research, product and process development organizations and consultants
:throughout the world.  Contract research organizations have specific public,
:governmental, and industry perception and promotion needs which are not addressed
:by existing scientific industry associations.  CRTA operates as a non-profit,
:tax-exempt, corporation eligible for scientific research and public awareness
:charitable organization contributions as provided for in the IRC 501(c)(3) provisions.
:
:Being a scientific research and public awareness related organization, CRTA
:exists to benefit its members by providing:
:
:  1) An organization devoted to the promotion of Contract Research.
:  2) A unified voice on matters of common interest or concern.
:  3) Point of contact for media relations relative to contract research.
:  4) Business opportunity referrals as a research clearinghouse.
:  5) Professional networking opportunities for its members.
:  6) Periodic publishing of information beneficial to the membership.
:  7) Periodic dissemination of applicable research results to the public.
:  8) Governmental representation on issues affecting CRO's.
:  9) Public promotion of the strengths of its membership.
: 10) A directory of Contract Research Organizations and Consultants.
:
:CRTA will provide:
:  1)  A forum for the exchange of information.
:  2)  Formal recognition to the CRO's role in business.
:  3)  Standards for the professionals so engaged.
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From: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu (Jim Bassuk)
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Subject: Re: Westrn blot and quantification of protein.
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In article <D1vtry.vJ@ncifcrf.gov>, reming@ncifcrf.gov (Mary Remington) says:
>
> We are currently using western blots to determine expression of a protein.
> Our antibody has not been impressive so far.  It has been suggested that we
> use immunoprecipitation instead of the western technique.  Can immunoprecipitation
> be used to compare amount of protein expression or is the western the 
> better way to go?  Thanks for your input.   Mary

Mary,

	Both techniques have their pros and cons.  To quantitate a radioactive
signal in a western, you must work within the linear range of your system, i.e., run several
different amounts of your purified protein on your gel, do western, and scan the autoradiogram
with a densitometer or similar device.  If the area of integration is linearly proportional to your
mass, then you can use the western to do what you want.

	In immunoprecipitation is used, then you must be very careful to process all
samples equally.  You can easily loose protein during the washing stages.  Otherwise,
this technique is another reliable method.  Hope this helps.

Jim Bassuk
BioStructure
Univ. Washington

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In article <3eg2t9$8hl@neuro.usc.edu>, william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) writes:
> 
> Hello, Netters,
> 
> Can a western blot filter be "reprobed" like a Southern blot filter? 

Yes, it can.  Use the following stripping buffer:  100 mM 2-ME, 2% SDS, 62.5 mM
Tris.HCl pH 6.7.  Submerge membrane in buffer at 50 deg C for 30 minutes.  Wash
twice for 10 minutes in your usual wash buffer.  Reblock.  Reprobe.

I have used this several times and it works.

Ian Davis					davis@licre.ludwig.edu.au
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research
Melbourne Tumour Biology Branch
Melbourne, Australia.


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From: Bassuk@U.Washington.Edu (Jim Bassuk)
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Subject: Digital chromatograms: parts list?
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In standard chromatography of proteins, we monitor the absorbance of the column eluate with a
Pharmacia UV-1 flow cell coupled to a chart recorder.  This analog signal from the UV-1 is 10 mV.

To design a system to convert the signal to a digital format, I'll need a A/D converter, some sort
of board for a yet-to-be purchased 486 PC, and some sort of software to acquire, process, and store
the data.

We'll likely couple two UV-1 units in tandem (214 and 280 nm).....this is 2 channels.....and then
a simple closure switch to indicate the advancement of the fraction collector....this is another channel...
a total of 3 channels.....

No need to buy a big, expensive HPLC software program, because I won't be controlling any pumps, 
etc...

Comments on boards, A/D units, and software sources and experiences are respectfully requested.

Thanks in advance,

Jim Bassuk
BioStructure
Univ Washington

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In article <3ejjqo$75s@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu  
(larson eric) writes:
> phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt) writes:
> 
> >We are a small company that manufactures multi-angle laser light  
> >scattering detectors (MALLS) used in combination with  
chromatographically  
> >separated samples to determine their absolute molecular weights and  
sizes  
> >and the distributions of these quantities.  
> 
> >	1)  What do you think of the chromatographic separation process as  
> >a tool for characterizing protein samples (assuming that an absolute  
> >determination may result)? 
> >===============
> 
> The only technique that seems to yield definitive results is  
size-exclusion
> gel filtration.  By definitive I mean results you can talk about results  
as
> reasonably solid evidence that there is an aggregation difference.  Even  
in
> the absence of exact stoichiometries (i.e. eluted mol. wt./subunit mol.
> wt.) stating that there is a difference is reasonable.
>  
> I have one protein under study that seems to elute from ion exchange  
resins
> as a split peak.  Subject the eluted samples to a molecular weight  
sizing
> gel and both elute at the same point.  Re-elute these samples from the  
mol.
> wt. sizing gel on ion exchange and both now elute at the same salt
> concentration.  I believe the separation afforded by the first ion  
exchange
> column is real, but cannot definitively determine "why" the protein  
split
> on the column.  I suspect an aggregation phenomenon -- something an  
on-line
> mol. wt. detector could determine (we looked at these several years ago  
and
> they couldn't correctly assess the  mol. wt. of a test protein we had --
> might be time to see if the years have been good to the technique --  
hmmm,
> send me some literature. :-)
>  
> >	2)  If you use such techniques, what type do you use?  (E. g.  
> >reverse phase, size exclusion, ion exchange, capillary electrophoresis)
> 
> Of your list, size exclusion and ion exchange are the most popular (at
> least with our lab.)  Reverse phase and capillary electrophoresis
> techniques almost always use conditions that are far too harsh for most
> proteins.  It would be foolish to try and assess aggregation state of a
> protein after it had been subjected to trifluoroacetic acid, phosphoric
> acid, organic solvents, etc.  Reverse phase and capillary seem suited to
> purifying a polypeptide chain (as opposed to purifying a native  
protein.)
>  
> >	3)  Do you think the buffer and/or the mobile phase can (will)  
> >affect  the composition of your sample?  (E. g. might you detect  
> >aggregates that were not present in your sample?  Could some of the  
sample  
> >stick to the columns during the separation process itself?)
> 
> I would say yes.  With two proteins we currently work with, aggregation,
> whether part of the native "operational mode" of the protein, or caused  
by
> buffer conditions is observed (one proteins aggregation state depends on 
> the presence or absence of one substrate.)
> 
> >	4)  If a column structure could be developed  that would permit  
> >the use of any type of mobile phase without affecting the separation  
> >process itself (i. e. no sticking and no false aggregation), would that  
> >make such chromatographic techniques more attractive?  (We do NOT  
> >manufacture columns!)
> 
> This would be a neat trick if you could do it.  Your description pretty
> much describes the goal of a mol. wt. sizing column.  A priori, this  
would
> not seem to apply to the ion exchange, reverse phase, affinity
> chromatography, capillary, etc..
> 
> It sounds like your company is focussing on devices for on-line
> identification of mol.wt. from chromatographic resin (be they ion  
exchange,
> mol. wt. sizing, or whatever.)  This is useful.  However, many of the
> aforementioned chromatographic techniques are being used in the hopes  
that
> differential aggregation (in our case it would protein-protein  
interactions
> between a regulatory protein and its substrate) can be analyzed.  Of  
just
> as much utility would be direct measurement of the mol. wt. distribution
> within a single (stirred?) vessel versus time (i.e. add substrate  
protein,
> check mol. wt., add regulatory protein, check mol. wt.)  Evidence of
> changes, even if not definitive in terms of mol. wt., would be very  
useful.
> 
> -- 
> Eric Larson                  | University of Illinois at  
Urbana-Champaign
> USDA/Agronomy                | 190 PABL; 1201 W. Gregory; Urbana, IL  
61801
> elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
> Fidonet: 1:233/4.1           | My opinions are my own, but correct :-) 


Let me comment on your insightful remarks referring to my questions 1  
through 4.

1) Regarding the split peak you observe on elution from ion exchange,  
putting in line a light scattering detector like our miniDAWN would show  
immediately the molecular weights and (if the protein is large enough) the  
rms radius of each slice and, of course, each peak without any need for  
calibration.  (Dr. Charles Zukoski of the Dept. of Chemical Engineering  
has a large 18 detector DAWN system that will work equally well.  You  
might want to give him a call and discuss this with him at 333 7379.)   
We've seen similar differences between GPC and reverse phase separations,  
yet whenever we make the light scattering measurements, the results are  
clarified.  Nevertheless, we may see the SAME sample separating  
differently with different injections on the SAME GPC column.  We often  
attribute this to sample attaching to the column and eluting with a later  
sample, often with some weird aggregation (based on LS MW determination)  
effects!

2) There is another method that appears quite promising that we shall be  
working with during this next few months.  At present it is not user  
friendly, was developed by another company, and adds another $20,000 to an  
already expensive LS detector, but we hope to have better news to report  
soon.  We'll keep you posted.

3) If the separation technique mentioned briefly in 2), above, were to  
obviate these concerns, would anyone want to spend this additional amount  
of money to achieve it?

4) See above regarding the separation techniques.  As for the ablity to  
monitor MW and size with time, a brute force demonstration of this (using  
LS) was presented by Wilson and Benight in J. Bio. Chem. vol 265, p 7351  
(1990).  With our newer instruments, this type of measurement is very  
easily done.

Thanks so much for your comments.  If you need any more information from  
us, please don't hesitate to ask.  We'll keep you informed as to the new  
separation experiments.

Phil Wyatt

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In article <D1vtry.vJ@ncifcrf.gov>, reming@ncifcrf.gov (Mary Remington) writes:
>
If you have an access to a densitometer and software for digitization, Western
blot is the ideal. We use regularly Western-immunoblot for quantitation. If you
like you can send some blots and we will quantify the protein in question. Good
Luck. Abul

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  Forestry Canada                   Phone: (604) 363-0600
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From: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric)
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phil@wyatt.com (Philip J. Wyatt) writes:

>We are a small company that manufactures multi-angle laser light  
>scattering detectors (MALLS) used in combination with chromatographically  
>separated samples to determine their absolute molecular weights and sizes  
>and the distributions of these quantities.  

>	1)  What do you think of the chromatographic separation process as  
>a tool for characterizing protein samples (assuming that an absolute  
>determination may result)? 
>===============

The only technique that seems to yield definitive results is size-exclusion
gel filtration.  By definitive I mean results you can talk about results as
reasonably solid evidence that there is an aggregation difference.  Even in
the absence of exact stoichiometries (i.e. eluted mol. wt./subunit mol.
wt.) stating that there is a difference is reasonable.
 
I have one protein under study that seems to elute from ion exchange resins
as a split peak.  Subject the eluted samples to a molecular weight sizing
gel and both elute at the same point.  Re-elute these samples from the mol.
wt. sizing gel on ion exchange and both now elute at the same salt
concentration.  I believe the separation afforded by the first ion exchange
column is real, but cannot definitively determine "why" the protein split
on the column.  I suspect an aggregation phenomenon -- something an on-line
mol. wt. detector could determine (we looked at these several years ago and
they couldn't correctly assess the  mol. wt. of a test protein we had --
might be time to see if the years have been good to the technique -- hmmm,
send me some literature. :-)
 
>	2)  If you use such techniques, what type do you use?  (E. g.  
>reverse phase, size exclusion, ion exchange, capillary electrophoresis)

Of your list, size exclusion and ion exchange are the most popular (at
least with our lab.)  Reverse phase and capillary electrophoresis
techniques almost always use conditions that are far too harsh for most
proteins.  It would be foolish to try and assess aggregation state of a
protein after it had been subjected to trifluoroacetic acid, phosphoric
acid, organic solvents, etc.  Reverse phase and capillary seem suited to
purifying a polypeptide chain (as opposed to purifying a native protein.)
 
>	3)  Do you think the buffer and/or the mobile phase can (will)  
>affect  the composition of your sample?  (E. g. might you detect  
>aggregates that were not present in your sample?  Could some of the sample  
>stick to the columns during the separation process itself?)

I would say yes.  With two proteins we currently work with, aggregation,
whether part of the native "operational mode" of the protein, or caused by
buffer conditions is observed (one proteins aggregation state depends on 
the presence or absence of one substrate.)

>	4)  If a column structure could be developed  that would permit  
>the use of any type of mobile phase without affecting the separation  
>process itself (i. e. no sticking and no false aggregation), would that  
>make such chromatographic techniques more attractive?  (We do NOT  
>manufacture columns!)

This would be a neat trick if you could do it.  Your description pretty
much describes the goal of a mol. wt. sizing column.  A priori, this would
not seem to apply to the ion exchange, reverse phase, affinity
chromatography, capillary, etc..

It sounds like your company is focussing on devices for on-line
identification of mol.wt. from chromatographic resin (be they ion exchange,
mol. wt. sizing, or whatever.)  This is useful.  However, many of the
aforementioned chromatographic techniques are being used in the hopes that
differential aggregation (in our case it would protein-protein interactions
between a regulatory protein and its substrate) can be analyzed.  Of just
as much utility would be direct measurement of the mol. wt. distribution
within a single (stirred?) vessel versus time (i.e. add substrate protein,
check mol. wt., add regulatory protein, check mol. wt.)  Evidence of
changes, even if not definitive in terms of mol. wt., would be very useful.

-- 
Eric Larson                  | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
USDA/Agronomy                | 190 PABL; 1201 W. Gregory; Urbana, IL 61801
elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
Fidonet: 1:233/4.1           | My opinions are my own, but correct :-) 

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Subject: Microwaves action on milk given to infants
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As a young father (my baby now is 7 weeks old) I read a lot...
I've read (and some people also told me) that warwing up a feeding
bottle using a microwave oven is not recommended because the microwaves
cause molecular changes in some proteins of the milk.

But, at this time, nobody could confirm that or give me an more
scientific explanation.

If someone could provide me a answer that an engineer like me can
accept, it would be very nice.

Thank you very much for any information

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In article1995Jan6.025507.:
>In <anon-0501951543180001
                       
>>In article <3eg2t9$8hl@neuro.usc.edu>, william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) wrote:
>
>>> Hello, Netters,
>>> 
>>> Can a western blot filter be "reprobed" like a Southern blot filter?  If
>>> so, what is the best way to strip the original antibody?  I am using a
>>> secondary antibody conjugated to alkaline phosphatase, and visualizing
>>> with addition of color substrates NBT and BCIP.  I would appreciate your
>>> response.
>>> 
>>> -fm
>
>
Stripping of antibodies from membranes has been described for 125-I
labeled proteins and the extension of theis technique to chemiluminescence
substrates is feasible.

Reference:
Kaufman,et al., Analytical Biochem., 161:89-95,(1987)

Removing chromogenic substrates is difficult, I don't reccommend it.


>                                 
>--                                         
>Tom Thatcher                          | You c
>University of Rochester Cancer Center | and h

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From: ntheo@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (NICHOLAS THEODORAKIS )
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In article <3ekn9k$ctt@rc1.vub.ac.be>,
Stephane Corteel <scorteel@resulb.ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>As a young father (my baby now is 7 weeks old) I read a lot...
>I've read (and some people also told me) that warwing up a feeding
>bottle using a microwave oven is not recommended because the microwaves
>cause molecular changes in some proteins of the milk.
>
>But, at this time, nobody could confirm that or give me an more
>scientific explanation.
>
>If someone could provide me a answer that an engineer like me can
>accept, it would be very nice.
>
>Thank you very much for any information


As a new father of twin girls (now 3 mo. old), I heard a different, and 
more believable reason not to microwave milk or formula (and this reason 
would probably appeal to an engineer).  Microwave ovens often warm things up 
unevenly, and thus might leave "hot spots" in the milk that could could 
burn, even if the outside of the container feels the right temperature



-- 
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
			Nick Theodorakis
			ntheo@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu
			Johns Hopkins Medical School, Baltimore, MD

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Hallick Lab (hallick_lab@TIKAL.BIOSCI.ARIZONA.EDU) wrote:
: 	I have a question about coupling peptides to carrier proteins for use in
: immunizations.  I am interested in using EDC to couple my peptides to BSA.  I
: would like to know people's opinion of this method.  Is it tricky?  Is it a
: fairly successful method?  I am worried about blocking free amino groups on
: the peptide.  Is this necessary?  (Each of my 10mer peptides has at least two
: internal lysines.)  I would appreciate any hints or comments.
: Thanks,
: Kristin Jenkins
: Dept. of Molecular and Cellular Biology
: University of Arizona
: hallicklab@tikal.biosci.arizona.edu

   We do this kind of thing in our lab all the time.  While I have never
done this I believe the method we use involves activating the epsilon
amino groups on protein lysines with Trauts reagent to yield more
reactive thiol groups.  We then use a heterobifunctional crosslinker (a
maleomidocaproate or something like that) to react first with the
peptide.  Your unprotected peptide lysines would be a problem here in
our scheme but you might be able to find a way around this such as to
couple via the C-terminus.  The Trauts reagent strategy along with a
plethora of crosslinking reagents can be found in the Pierce catalog
(with a few references).  If you want procedures or any other
information feel free to email me.

Gook Luck.

Rob.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Jan 07 22:00:00 1995
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From: e9403001@powai.cc.iitb.ernet.in (m madhusoodanan)
Subject: article in protein science
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dear netters,
i came across an interesting article in one of the recent issues
of the journal Protien Science. unfortunately i do not have access
to that journal. is it possible for me to obtain atleast the absract
of the article. could someone be kind enough to send me the abstract.
i shall give the particulars of the article on hearing from you.
thanks in advance
sincerely,
ramkrishna

Ramkrishna
research scholar 
dept. of Chemistry
I.I.T., Bombay 
india
  

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m madhusoodanan (e9403001@powai.cc.iitb.ernet.in) wrote:
> i came across an interesting article in one of the recent issues
> of the journal Protien Science. unfortunately i do not have access
> to that journal. is it possible for me to obtain atleast the absract
> of the article. could someone be kind enough to send me the abstract.

The contents and abstracts of Protein Science are posted to the newsgroup
bionet.journals.contents which you can search by gophering to net.bio.net.
Protein Science has also a WWW server at the URL

http://www.prosci.uci.edu/

You can find there a lot of additional useful data.

Hope that helps,
--Cornelius.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jan 08 22:00:00 1995
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Does anyone know of a program that (a) searches a database for all neutral
alleles of a sequence, and (b) predicts all possible neutral alleles of a
sequence?

Regards,
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Edwin Wright
85 Spinnaker Drive, A-602
Halifax, Nova Scotia
CANADA B3N 3E3

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 In article <3es5r2$mm3@neuro.usc.edu>
 william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) writes:

| Does anyone know what are the advantages/disadvantages of tris-glycine 
| vs. tricine gels for electrophoresis of proteins?

The use of tricine allows resolution of proteins in the < 5,000 Dalton
range better than glycine. Also, the proteins may be recovered for
microsequencing without modification problems.

@article{Schagger1987,
author = "H. {Sch\"{a}gger}
     and G. von Jagow",
title = "Tricine-sodium dodecyl sulfate-polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis
for the separation of proteins in the range from 1 to 100 {kDa}",
journal = "Anal. Biochem.",
volume = "166",
pages = "368-379",
year = "1987"}

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jan 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: jubongia@nmsu.edu (Juliet K. Bongianni)
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Subject: chicken antibodies
Date: 9 Jan 1995 17:35:17 GMT
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	Does anybody know, or has anybody heard of using chickens to
produce primary antibodies against an antigen? Apparently the chicken can
be injected with the protein of choice, and then the antibodies can be
isolated from the egg white?? If anyone knows about this method, or has
used it, would you please comment on it and the efficiency of this technique.
Thank you.
	julie

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jan 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: rbateman@wave.st.usm.edu (Dr. Robert Bateman)
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Subject: Re: Microwaves action on milk given to infants
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NICHOLAS THEODORAKIS (ntheo@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu) wrote:
: In article <3ekn9k$ctt@rc1.vub.ac.be>,
: Stephane Corteel <scorteel@resulb.ulb.ac.be> wrote:
: >As a young father (my baby now is 7 weeks old) I read a lot...
: >I've read (and some people also told me) that warwing up a feeding
: >bottle using a microwave oven is not recommended because the microwaves
: >cause molecular changes in some proteins of the milk.
: >
: >But, at this time, nobody could confirm that or give me an more
: >scientific explanation.
: >
: >If someone could provide me a answer that an engineer like me can
: >accept, it would be very nice.
: >
: >Thank you very much for any information


: As a new father of twin girls (now 3 mo. old), I heard a different, and 
: more believable reason not to microwave milk or formula (and this reason 
: would probably appeal to an engineer).  Microwave ovens often warm things up 
: unevenly, and thus might leave "hot spots" in the milk that could could 
: burn, even if the outside of the container feels the right temperature

I microwaved milk for each of my sons and it worked fine. Just use medium 
power for 1 minute for each 6 oz milk and swirl the bottle a time or two 
to equilibrate the temperature.

Bob Bateman

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: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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: 			Johns Hopkins Medical School, Baltimore, MD

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jan 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman)
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Subject: tris-glycine vs tricine
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Hello, netters,

Does anyone know what are the advantages/disadvantages of tris-glycine 
vs. tricine gels for electrophoresis of proteins?

-fm


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Dr. Robert Bateman <rbateman@wave.st.usm.edu> writes:
 
>: As a new father of twin girls (now 3 mo. old), I heard a different, and 
>: more believable reason not to microwave milk or formula (and this reason 
>: would probably appeal to an engineer).  Microwave ovens often warm things up 
>: unevenly, and thus might leave "hot spots" in the milk that could could 
>: burn, even if the outside of the container feels the right temperature
 
	I heard this one myself when my son was still on bottles (he's 7 now),
and thought it was one of the dumber things they tell new mothers...and you
do hear dumb things as a new mother.
	It's a LIQUID, for Pete's sake...if you jostle it at all, the heat
equilibrates throughout the bottle.
	Nuke away.

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Subject: RE: Protein Sequence Insertions
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Does anyone know the extent to which protein sequence insertions have more
than one level?  For example, given the hypothetical sequence

                   XXXXXXXXXX[YYYYY]XXXXXXXXXX

where [YYYYY] represents an insertion, is it possible for the insertion
itself to have an insertion in another sequence, and so on, i.e.

          XXXXXXXXXX[YY[ZZZ]YYY]XXXXXXXXXX

where [ZZZ] represents an insertion in the above [YYYYY] insertion?

Regards,
-------
Edwin Wright
Spinnaker Drive, A-602
Halifax, Nova Scotia
CANADA B3N 3E3

Telephone: (902) 477-5037

Email: ewright@fox.nstn.ns.ca
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From: alkaiser@er6.rutgers.edu (Alan Kaiser)
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In <3es5r2$mm3@neuro.usc.edu> william@neuro.usc.edu (Fiberman) writes:

>Hello, netters,

>Does anyone know what are the advantages/disadvantages of tris-glycine 
>vs. tricine gels for electrophoresis of proteins?

>-fm

Tricine gels are used to resolve low MW proteins and peptides.
According to something I read from Bio-Rad, the glycine front runs at
a position that could interfer with the running of low MW peptides. I
think that it formed micells or something like that. With the tricine
you don't get this problem. 

For a good protocol look up the low MW standards from Sigma. These
standards are designed to be used with tricine gels and the protocol
comes with them (or you could get it separetly from tech service). I
use this protocol to resolve a peptide with a MW of 2500 and it works
just fine.


-- 
Alan Kaiser			alkaiser@eden.rutgers.edu
Graduate Program in Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
Rutgers University               New Brunswick,NJ

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Jan 08 22:00:00 1995
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From: Ralf.Morgenstern@imm.ki.se (Ralf Morgenstern)
Subject: Re: chicken antibodies
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In article <3ers4l$ftl@dns1.NMSU.Edu>, jubongia@nmsu.edu (Juliet K.
Bongianni) wrote:

> 
> 	Does anybody know, or has anybody heard of using chickens to
> produce primary antibodies against an antigen? Apparently the chicken can
> be injected with the protein of choice, and then the antibodies can be
> isolated from the egg white?? If anyone knows about this method, or has
> used it, would you please comment on it and the efficiency of this technique.
> Thank you.
> 	julie

Dear Julie,
I have used this technique which is efficient and convenient. There are
also commercial sites that can do this for you (at least in sweden and most
likely elsewhere). Immunization is by standard methods (we injected our
protein into the breast muscle as with conventional rabbit protocols and
Freunds adjuvant). The IgG is isolated from egg YOLK. A good reference is
Jensenius et. al. (1981) Journal of Immunological Methods, 46, 63-68.
Good luck,

-- 
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Tlf. +46-8-7287574, Fax, +46-8-334467, E-mail: ralf.morgenstern@imm.ki.se

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From: J.Marcus@tpp.uq.oz.au (John Marcus)
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Subject: Re: TCA-precipitation?
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In article <3euc3i$3ib@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, u7q11aa@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de (Peter Alliger) says:
>
>I am looking for good method to precipitate a highly purified protein
>before 
>analysing it on a SDS-PAGE.
>The fraction has about 1M KCl and should be concentrated from 500 ul to
>about 20.
>
>Thanks for suggestions
>
>PIT
>
Have you thought about using a Centricon or Microcon centrifugal
filtration device.  Essentially, you put your protein sample into
the microcon (~500ul capacity) and then spin in a microcentrifuge
for 1 min to 30 min (depending on the molecular weight cutoff of 
the filter that you are using at the time).  I think Amicon may 
have molecular weight cuttoffs as low as 1000Da.  When you are done 
spinning you should be left with about 10ul volume if you use a
microcon; although, this holdup volume is not very predictable.  

Alternatively, you could desalt your sample with the microcon; 
recover it and then proceed to dry your sample with a stream of 
nitrogen or else a speedi-vac hooked up to a vacuum pump.

I hope that is helpful.

Regards,
John Marcus

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From: japhale@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (J. Aphale)
Subject: Re: tris-glycine vs tricine
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Yes.  Tricine gels are MUCH better at resolving protein (peptides) in the 1 kD to 10 kD range!  Cheers.

Jayant
japhale@utcc.utoronto.ca


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jan 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: npv@mani.unet.umn.edu (Nora Plesofsky-Vig)
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Subject: re:chicken antibodies
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I made antibodies in chickens and have isolated the IgGs from egg  
yolks, but I was not entirely pleased with the results. I had high  
background reactivity of the pre-immune yolk IgGs from the three  
chickens I used, and it was therefore absolutely essential to include  
a control reaction with the pre-immune IgGs in all experiments.  
However, this problem may depend on the conditions under which the  
soon to be immunized chickens are kept, and an affinity isolation of  
the specific IgGs should get around the problem. 


Also, if you are considering immunoprecipitation with the antibodies,  
you should be aware that chicken IgGs do not react with protein A or  
protein G, which therefore cannot be used to amplify the  
immunoprecipitation (unless you use an anti-chicken IgG antibody from  
mammals first, as I did). However, there are now other tools on the  
market that may get around this problem. Promega (Madison, Wisc)  
offers an immobilized anti-chicken IgY (IgG) for immunoprecipitation,  
which may be useful.

Good luck.

Nora Plesofsky-Vig
nora@molbio.cbs.umn.edu

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From: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric)
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pnh@fcsparc6.ncifcrf.gov (Paul N Hengen) writes:

>| Does anyone know what are the advantages/disadvantages of tris-glycine 
>| vs. tricine gels for electrophoresis of proteins?

>The use of tricine allows resolution of proteins in the < 5,000 Dalton
>range better than glycine. Also, the proteins may be recovered for
>microsequencing without modification problems.

>author = "H. {Sch\"{a}gger}
>     and G. von Jagow",
>title = "Tricine-sodium dodecyl sulfate-polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis
>for the separation of proteins in the range from 1 to 100 {kDa}",
>journal = "Anal. Biochem.",
>volume = "166",
>pages = "368-379",
>year = "1987"}
=========
 
Okajima, T., T. Tanage, and T. Yasuda (1993) Anal. Biochem 211: 293-300
 
Has a procedure adapted from Laemmli that allows for small mol. wt. peptide
separation.  The technique works (though I had to change to 16% gels from
the 20% the authors used.)  Basically, it's a Laemmli gel with 2X higher
concentrations of buffer in stacking and running gel.  This makes the
procedure "simple" in that two sets of buffer stocks don't need to be
around.  I haven't tried the gels with normal proteins (because the %
acrylamide is too high.)

-- 
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USDA/Agronomy                | 190 PABL; 1201 W. Gregory; Urbana, IL 61801
elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
Fidonet: 1:233/4.1           | My opinions are my own, but correct :-) 

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From: dimitri@ensor.ulb.ac.be (Dimitri Gilis)
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Subject: fractal and proteins
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Hello,

Does somebody have informations, references.... about 
application of fractal dimension to polymers and/or proteins?

-- 

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Unite de Conformation des Macromolecules Biologiques   
ULB (Belgium)

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fax: +32 2 648 89 54                                        
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From: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga)
Subject: Re: chicken antibodies
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In article <3ers4l$ftl@dns1.NMSU.Edu>, jubongia@nmsu.edu (Juliet K.
Bongianni) wrote:

> 
> 	Does anybody know, or has anybody heard of using chickens to
> produce primary antibodies against an antigen? Apparently the chicken can
> be injected with the protein of choice, and then the antibodies can be
> isolated from the egg white?? If anyone knows about this method, or has
> used it, would you please comment on it and the efficiency of this technique.
> Thank you.
> 	julie

Dear Julie, we are using chikens and they work fine (all they have to do is
to lay eggs, indeed). The tecnique is very fast and simple. You can inject
with your antigen according to your protocol of choice and then recover
your Abs from the egg's YOLK (yellow part, not white) simply by PEG 6000
extractions. Here it is a reference of something done by our lab fey years
ago. If you have problems in getting the paper or if you need some hints
drop me an e-mail.

Gassmann, M., Thoemmes, P., Weiser, T. and Huebscher, U.
FASEB Journal, 4, 2528-2532 (1990).

Have fun with your hens (and remember, if you want to make a cake take only
pre-immune eggs).
G. Maga, PhD Biochemistry
University of Zuerich (CH)
e-mail: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch

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From: Morty@bchm.unp.ac.za (Rory.Morty)
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Subject: Stability of Okadaic Acid & Calyculin A
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Does anybody know how stable the protein phosphatase inhibitors okadaic 
acid, calyculin A and tautomycin are, once made up in solution. How long do 
they retain their inhibitory activity, how to store them, etc?

Many thank's in advance


Rory Morty
morty@biochem.unp.ac.za

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From: u7q11aa@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de (Peter Alliger)
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I am looking for good method to precipitate a highly purified protein
before 
analysing it on a SDS-PAGE.
The fraction has about 1M KCl and should be concentrated from 500 ul to
about 20.

Thanks for suggestions

PIT

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>Does anybody know how stable the protein phosphatase inhibitors okadaic
>acid, calyculin A and tautomycin are, once made up in solution. How long do
>they retain their inhibitory activity, how to store them, etc?
>
>Many thank's in advance
>
>
>Rory Morty
>morty@biochem.unp.ac.za

While we have not measured this parameter extensively, I would set an
upper limit for stabilility of these phosphatase inhibitors in aqueous
solution of 24 hours.  It is probably better to use these compounds as
soon as possible after making up the solution.

Jim

James J. Cheetham, Ph.D.
Laboratory of Molecular and Cellular Neuroscience
The Rockefeller University
1230 York Ave
New York, NY 10021
USA
cheethj@Rockvax.Rockefeller.EDU



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From: mp@scripps.edu (Mike Pique)
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Subject: Re: fractal and proteins
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Summary: See JMB (1992) 228, 13-22 Kuhn et al.
Keywords: fractal, protein, surface

See our article in Journal of Molecular Biology, 5 November 1992, 228, 13-22,
"The interdependence of protein surface topography and bound water molecules
revealed by surface accessibility and fractal density measures", by
Leslie Kuhn, Michael Siani, Michael Pique, Cindy Fisher, Elizabeth Getzoff,
and John Tainer, and the references therein.

   All the software of ours mentioned there is now available
for free, sources included, from the Computational Center for Macromolecular
Structure, ccms-help@sdsc.edu.

 - Mike Pique






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From: lomas@unixg.ubc.ca (Cyprien Lomas)
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Subject: s-s bonds in cytoplasm?
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Can anyone give me a reference for disulphide bonds found in the
cytoplasmic domain of a membrane protein?  I thought that they only
existed in the ER lumenal part of proteins.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Jan 09 22:00:00 1995
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From: mphcw@gps.leeds.ac.uk (C Webster)
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Does anyone have experience of using crossed immunoelectrophoresis for the 
study of glycoforms of protein ?

I am currently working on the microheterogenity of acid glycoprotein using
concanvalin A in the first dimension but having problems in getting the method
to work. I think my problem is the first dimension i.e. with the con A.

Does anyone have a method for using con A in CIE with regard to buffers etc.

I would appreciate any help on this matter.

TIA


-- 
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From: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric)
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J.Marcus@tpp.uq.oz.au (John Marcus) writes:

>>I am looking for good method to precipitate a highly purified protein
>>before 
>>analysing it on a SDS-PAGE.
>>The fraction has about 1M KCl and should be concentrated from 500 ul to
>>about 20.
>>
>>Thanks for suggestions
>>
>>PIT
>>
>Have you thought about using a Centricon or Microcon centrifugal
>filtration device.  Essentially, you put your protein sample into
>the microcon (~500ul capacity) and then spin in a microcentrifuge
>for 1 min to 30 min (depending on the molecular weight cutoff of 
>the filter that you are using at the time).  I think Amicon may 
>have molecular weight cuttoffs as low as 1000Da.  When you are done 
>spinning you should be left with about 10ul volume if you use a
>microcon; although, this holdup volume is not very predictable.  
============
 
An excellent suggestion, especially since the KCl will have to be removed
or reduced to prevent precipitation of the SDS.

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 10 22:00:00 1995
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From: valeryt@ag.arizona.edu (Valery F. Thompson)
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 16:37:17
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This doesn't apply to a lot of people, but my experience with chicken 
antibodies is that chickens don't lay many eggs during the summer in Arizona.  
It's just too hot for them.  Ours were housed in a facility that used only 
evaporative cooling which doesn't work too well during the humid months of 
July and August.  It's just something to consider if you happen to be in an 
area where weather conditions are similar to Tucson.

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From: Bibbs@scripps.edu (Lisa Bibbs)
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I would like to hear from people who have had experiences with heat shock
protein.  As I understand it, it binds to Ig heavy chains.  That would
seem to make it light up on westerns.  Does anyone have info for me?

Thanks in advance.
Lisa Bibbs
Bibbs@scripps.edu

-- 
These opinions are mine, not my employers.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Jan 10 22:00:00 1995
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Hello,
	I am working with Type I and Type III collagen and gelable products
from them.  I was wondering if anyone could help me with a peak that shows up
in the FTIR scan between 1030 and 1050 1/cm for the gelable byproducts but not
 does not show up for the original collagen I and III samples.

Thanks in advance,
An Inorganic Chemist

Craig Thompson
CTHOMPSON@ARSERRC.GOV

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From: dimitri@ensor.ulb.ac.be (Dimitri Gilis)
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Maybe it is the fact that one amino acid is coded by three DNA bases.
Furthermore, DNA code is degenerated (more than one DNA base triplet
corresponds to one amino acid).

Hope this help...
-- 

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I would suggest caution, none of the respondents to your query have given you 
a sound scientific answer. Old and new Fathers/wives tails are the reason the 
question was asked.  Keep reading the mail, I won't tell you my stories since 
they have little scientific merit either.

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I just now realized that this question isn't about
proteins per se, but here goes anyway:  does anyone know
of references/data about crystalline amino acids?
specifically, their cell parameters and/or crystal
types? thanks in advance for any help you can give me!

christine owens
dept. of geology        
uc berkeley




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test


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From: R.Lauder@lancaster.ac.uk (Bob Lauder)
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Hi, 

 I'd like to make contact with anybody reading this who works in the 
collagen field.  My main area of interest is connective tissue 
proteoglycans, and I'm hoping to do some work with collagens.  So, I'd
very much like to pose a few questions concerning the FACIT collagens.  

 If anybody has experience of isolating collagen types IX, XII or XIV 
I'd be grateful if you could give me some idea of abundance in various 
tissues.  Also how did you perform the isolation?  Is anybody doing any
work examining the interaction of these FACIT collagens with other 
ECM components?  Finaly, if anybody is willing to give me some antibodies
to type XIV I'd be delighted.  (Unlikley but I thought I'd ask anyway).

Thanks in advance

Bob.
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In article <3euc3i$3ib@sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de>, u7q11aa@sunmail.lrz-muenchen.de (Peter Alliger) writes:
>I am looking for good method to precipitate a highly purified protein
>before 
>analysing it on a SDS-PAGE.
>The fraction has about 1M KCl and should be concentrated from 500 ul to
>about 20.
>
>Thanks for suggestions
>
>PIT
>
>===============================================================
>Peter Alliger, Ph.D.                   
>Institute for Immunology                 home address:
>University of Munich                    
>Goethestr. 31                           Maximilian-Wetzger-Str.7
>D-80336 Munich, Germany                 D-80636 Munich, Germany
>
>Phone:(49-89)5996-673                   (49-89)183426
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>  
Why not prcipitate with 8X volume of cold acetone (at -20C) for a 1 h and
redissolve the ppt in sample buffer required for SDS-PAGE. Good Luck. Abul 

  EKRAMODDOULLAH, ABUL KALAM M.     Title: Research Scientist
  Forestry Canada                   Phone: (604) 363-0600
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From: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga)
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From G. Maga, Biochemistry
University Zuerich
Zuerich (CH)
e-mail: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch

I have a question about the use of Hill plot as a test for cooperativity.
Given that you collect your experimental data (in my case initial reaction
velocities at different substrate concentrations), if you obtain a non
Mich.-Menten curve, but a sigmoidal one, can you use Hill plot as a test
for real cooperativity? Or it will give you a h coeff. different from 1
even in those cases in which the non-linearity has nothing to do with
cooperativity (for example if your enzyme has alternative pathways for
binding two molecules of substrate with no irreversible steps in between)?
And if so, how can I convincingly prove (or disprove) cooperativity?
Thanks in advance.

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maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga) wrote:

stuff deleted

> Can you use Hill plot as a test
> for real cooperativity? Or it will give you a h coeff. different from 1
> even in those cases in which the non-linearity has nothing to do with
> cooperativity (for example if your enzyme has alternative pathways for
> binding two molecules of substrate with no irreversible steps in between)?
> And if so, how can I convincingly prove (or disprove) cooperativity?

You are absolutely right that a sigmoidal plot will give a Hill slope
greater than 1 whether you have positive cooperativity or some other
mechanism or artifact causing the sigmoid nature. A bit more information
about the experimental design might help.

Rick Neubig 
http://www.umich.edu/~rneubig

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Subject: Derivatizad PVDF membranes
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Does anyone know the chemistry for derivatizing PVDF membranes
to Arylamino-PVDF for sequencing purposes? 
Millipore used to sell them as Sequelon-AA, but they have been
out of stock for more than two months.

Lyuben Marekov
NIH/NIAMS, Bethesda MD 20892
lmarekov@dxi.nih.gov


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[ Article crossposted from bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts ]
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[ Posted on 12 Jan 1995 20:33:20 GMT ]

We are trying to detect a protein on the cell surface while 
the protein is mostly found intracellularly.  We are fixing
with 4% paraformaldehyde but find that there is some 
permeabilization of the cells.  Has anyone found washing and fixing 
conditions that cause very minimal damage to the cell membrane?
Does glutaraldehyde or formaldehyde leave a more intact cell 
membrane than paraformaldehyde?  Should washing be done with
PBS or BSS?  The cells are Chinese hamster ovary cells attached
to a slide.  What is the minimum % of paraformaldehyde which can
be used in fixation and will this improve the situation?  

Thanks for your input.  E-mail or post here.

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As far as I know, disulfides are functions of secreted, extracellular proteins.
(or, of course, within the ER during sorting).  However, some cytoplasmic
proteins do have disulfides, but such are not aimed at structural rigidity.
Rather, these are used in redox reactions.  Two examples that I know of are
the active sites of thioredoxin and glutathione reductase.  I hope this helps.
Bye for now.  -Shaun

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Hi all,

   Christine Owens asked about crystal parameters for amino acids.  To the best
of my knowledge, the most complete info available in that regard is in the
Cambridge Structural Database (CSD).  It is not a public database (i.e., by
subscription only), but most campuses (and probably UC Berkeley) will have at
least one subscription; check with your chemistry department, for example.  But,
if you'd like info on the CSD, let me know and I'll post more; also, there is
a World Wide Web amino acid server that has a reasonable collection of data
that I'd be glad to post the reference to if there is any interest.  Bye for
now.  -Shaun

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We are looking for antibodies that can distinguish between
 the various Ras forms (H-, K-, N- and R-Ras). Does 
anybody know who might have such antibodies ?


Thanks

Jes K. Klarlund

jklarlun@umassmed.ummed.edu
Program in Molecular Medicine
U Mass Medical Center
Worcester MA 01605




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Is anyone using a yeast two-hybrid interaction system (Clontech or other) to
study the interactions of extracellular matrix proteins or protein domains?
If so I would like to hear from you about your experiences.
We have been trying without much success and I was wondering whether there is
some specific reason why matrix proteins are just not good candidates for this
analytical system.

Robert Glanville
Shriners Hospital
Portland, OR


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hi,

i remember from my proteins class that the propensity of a peptide or protein
to form a helical secondary structure can be calculated by a method of
averaging out empirical values assigned to amino acid residues (work done by
chou and fasman?). i have recently become interested at computing the
helicity of short (20-40 mer) peptides, however at different pH values.
i think the values assigned to acidic and basic residuess would vary with pH,
i'm not sure about neutral residues. does anyone know of any references
which deal with this question? also, does this kind of computation of
helicity give fairly reliable estimates?

thanks,
/manpreet.

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We are looking for antibodies that can distinguish between the
various
 Ras forms (H-, K-, N- and R-Ras). Does anybody know who might have
 such antibodies ?


Thanks

Jes K. Klarlund

jklarlun@umassmed.ummed.edu
Program in Molecular Medicine
U Mass Medical Center
Worcester MA 01605




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Lisa:

My understanding is that the ER-localized hsp70, also called BIP,  
binds to the unassembled Ig heavy chains. It should not bind to them  
when they are assembled with the light chains and, therefore, BIP  
would not light up on a typical Western.

Nora Plesofsky-Vig
nora@molbio.cbs.umn.edu

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Hi All,

   I find this thread of real interest.  Will any of the experts 'cooperate'
with me to answer a question?  My question is:  What else could cause a
sigmoidal binding plot besides cooperativity?  Thanks.  Best to all,  Shaun

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