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From: arne@hodgkin.mbi.ucla.edu (Arne Elofsson)
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The fastest algorithm I have seen is by LeGrand & Merz, J

3. LEGRAND SM; MERZ KM.
     RAPID APPROXIMATION TO MOLECULAR SURFACE AREA VIA THE USE OF BOOLEAN LOGIC
   AND LOOK-UP TABLES.
     JOURNAL OF COMPUTATIONAL CHEMISTRY, 1993 MAR, V14 N3:349-352.

  
arne

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From: smb18@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Simon Brocklehurst (Bioc))
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Subject: Re: Homotrimer-ONE!!! binding site?
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aflaloc@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL (Claude Aflalo) writes:

>On Mon, 27 Mar 1995, Ralf Morgenstern wrote:

>> Our binding studies indicate that microsomal glutathione transferase binds
>> only one GSH per homotrimer. Are there known examples of homotrimers (or
>> homooligomers) with one binding site only. I have a hard time envisioning
>> this because of symmetry reasons (or lack of imagination). Perhaps three
>> overlapping sites exist of which only one can be occupied at a time. Does
>> anyone know of examples that describe this situation.
>> -- 
>> Ralf Morgenstern, IMM, Karolinska Institutet, Box 210, S-17177, SWEDEN
>> Tlf. +46-8-7287574, Fax, +46-8-334467, E-mail: ralf.morgenstern@imm.ki.se
>> 
>> 
       The binding site could simply lie on one end of the C3 symmetry
axis (if the protein has such symmetry).

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Subject: udp-glucose aff chromotography
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Hi,

I am looking for a method of coupling UDP-glucose to an affinity resin. Does anybody have experience with purifying a protein by using immobilized UDP glucose???

Any information would be helpful.

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What is the best way to elute proteins from polyacrylamide gel ????

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WIZARDS!
        I am a student doing a project on monoclonal antibodies and
antibody engineering. I was wondering if any of you brain boxes know of
any good papers on antibody protein engineering to start from. 

                  Thanks



                  ADAM

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From: maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga)
Subject: D2O exchange for proteins
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Dear bionetters,
																we want to begin to study a small protein (30kD, pI around
5) by neutron scattering. We can purify such protein in mg amounts at
homogenity, However, we need to provide it in D2O rather than that in H2O
for neutron scattering analysis. We tried once by liophylizing our protein
and then resuspending it in phosphate buffer at pH 6 in D2O, but we had
serious troubles in getting it soluble again. Does anybody know a good
method to exchange H2O buffers with D2O buffers? Is the pH important in
this reaction (well, the pD in this case)? Any buffering system will work
or some is preferred? I tried to get advice by reading a couple of issues
of Methods in Enzymology which were dealing with nmr studies, but I didn't
find an answer to my (basic, I know) questions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Answer here or e-mail to:

maga@vetbio.unizh.ch

G.Maga,PhD
Institute of Veterinary Biochemistry
University of Zuerich-CH

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From: "M.P.Woodland" <M.P.Woodland@ic.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Elution of proteins from polyacrylamide gel
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tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr (Thierry Berthe) wrote:
>
> What is the best way to elute proteins from polyacrylamide gel ????

Try  the  Bio-Rad  442  electroeluter. With  this  you  can  elute
excised  bands  into  600ul.It  can  be  used  with  native  or  
SDS-PAGE, The  protein  bands  may  be  stained and  fixed  or  
unfixed.  In  theory  it  is possible  to  electrodialyse  SDS
from  the  protein - in  practise  I  have  had  less  success
with  this  aspect. 

m.p.woodland @ic.ac.uk

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## Nachricht vom 21.03.95 weitergeleitet
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## Ersteller: thoenes@itc-biotech.com

Dear Bionetters,

During my literture studies about the "Green Fluorescent Protein" I found  
a component named "coelenterazine" (Inouye and Tsuji, FEBS Letters 351  
(1994) 211-214) as the organic substrate for aequorin. During the reaction  
it is oxidized to coelenteramide.
Is there anybody out there who can tell me the chemical formula and  
structure as well as some details about coelenterazine?

In some ealder papers one also can find "coelenterates". I never hears  
about this word. Is this a certain sort of organism ?

Thanks for any kind of answer

U. Thoenes
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Hello,

I'm currently researching "Protein Introns", and am in need of information
on this subject.

If anybody is involved in this field could provide any information, or knows
of references that I can look up, it would be greatly appreciated.
Abstract searches on the libraries CD-ROMs revealed nothing.

Thanks.

Any replies to: mbdinger@waikato.ac.nz.
  


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Hello All Netters, 
I  have isolated a compound from culture filtrates of Collettotriichum 
gloeosporioides from yam Dioscorea alata  cv White Lisbon.  This 
substance has 
putataive toxin activity.  However I have not fuly elucidated its 
structure.  
The question is this.  Does anyone out there know of an enzyme that can 
be used 
to cleave the bond between a protein and a carbohydrate??
I am desperate for some advice on this problem.

Angela

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Thierry Berthe (tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr) wrote:
: What is the best way to elute proteins from polyacrylamide gel ????


	The Elutrap, sold by Schleicher & Schuell in the USA works 
for us.  I think it's a German product, so maybe it's sold by someone else 

in France.  
	We use an ammonium bicarbonate/SDS/dithiothreitol buffer.
(It's something that you run in a horizontal electrophoresis unit.)
It works with coomassie-blue stained gels; the stain remains in the
trap with the protein.  If you vacuum-dry the protein solution, the
coomassie-blue, dithiothreitol, and any ammonium bicarbonate that
remains can be dissolved in 70% ethanol, leaving behind the protein.
If you want details, let me know.  
				Steve Driska


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From: gkrause@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Gary Krause)
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Subject: Need Serine Kinase inhibitor
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:39:44 est
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I am trying to isolate the serine kinase that phosphorylates eIF-2 in the 
brain.  I am in need of a general inhibitor of serine kinases.  I have tried 
serine with minimal success.  Any suggestions would be welcome.  Thanks

Gary


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Gary Krause (gkrause@cms.cc.wayne.edu)
Department of Emergency Medicine
Wayne State University, Detroit, MI USA

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In article <maga-030495161438@130.60.120.11>, maga@vetbio.unizh.ch (Giovanni Maga) writes:
|> 
|> Dear bionetters,
|> 																we want to begin to study a small protein (30kD, pI around
|> 5) by neutron scattering. We can purify such protein in mg amounts at
|> homogenity, However, we need to provide it in D2O rather than that in H2O
|> for neutron scattering analysis. We tried once by liophylizing our protein
|> and then resuspending it in phosphate buffer at pH 6 in D2O, but we had
|> serious troubles in getting it soluble again. Does anybody know a good
|> method to exchange H2O buffers with D2O buffers? Is the pH important in
|> this reaction (well, the pD in this case)? Any buffering system will work
|> or some is preferred? I tried to get advice by reading a couple of issues
|> of Methods in Enzymology which were dealing with nmr studies, but I didn't
|> find an answer to my (basic, I know) questions.

I'm not positive what you're asking here, so I'll give two separate
answers.  

If you're just looking to get the protein into D2O, then all you
need to do is use a Centricon to wash in D2O to your heart's content.

If you want to exchange protein protons for deuterons, then read on.

As anyone who's done H/D exchange studies of protein folding could
tell you, the exchange rate of amide protons is pH-dependent.

The reaction is both acid and base catalyzed, with a minimum rate
around pH 3-4 and maximal rates at very acid or basic pHs.  The rate
increases linearly with [H+] or [-OH].  

If your protein doesn't tolerate extremes of pH, you could add some
small amount of denaturant (say, 1-2 M gdmCl) to help move things along.

Phosphate buffers, in my hands, tend to do strange things, so you can
use acetate (at low pH) or glycine (at high pH).  

You realize, of course, that this will only replace a subset of the 
protein protons with deuterons.  Conditions that lead to exchange
of non-exchangable (ie., alpha, aliphatic, or aromatic) protons tend
to do nasty things to proteins.  If you want 100% of the protein 
protons to be deuterons, you'll have to do the expression in 
D2O (ie., mucho dinero).

Hope this helps.

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David
Here at the facility we routinely perform this digestion doing the following:
Stock soltn   10 mg/ml CNBr in 70% formic

add 10 ul stock/10ug protein.  Incubate @ room temp in dark overnight.  Top
off with 10X water and speed vac, I usually wash in 2x.  If internal sequence
is what your after than I would not reccomend purification by RP-HPLC, as 
the newly acquired formyl grps make for a broad and very messy profile.  
Instead, I add tricine sample buffer, with 2 ul neat 4 VP, and incubate for 1-2
hrs at room temp, load to tricine 16% gel(Novex) and blot to PVDF.   
Alternatively, you could reduce/alk pror to digestion, and a good protocol
would be S-pyridylethylation of Cystine Residues, Applied Biosystem no.28, Hawke
and Yuan.  I use it exclusively with slight modification.  If this is a MALDI 
experiment, where mass is that you need, then you may want to use TFA
instead of the formic as the formylation does not work very well.  Should you
need any additional protocols or hard copies for any of the above feel free to
contact me.  Contrary to what most people say, CNBr is one of my first 
choices when contemplating the frgmentating of a protein.

Jake Tropea 
tropea@brcf.med.umich.edu
313-763-6710
Protein and Carbohydrate Structure Facility
Univ of Michigan


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I have been using the PKC inhibitor chelerythrine chloride recently, as 
well as two other PKC inhbitors which bind to the DAG regulatory site.  
Chelerythrine inhibits PKC by binding to the active site.  Recently it 
came to my attention that PKC can also be activated by arachidonic acid 
(AA).  I have the following questions:

Does chelerythrine inhibit all PKC isoforms?

Are there specific PKCs that can be activated only by either AA or DAG; or 
are PKC isoforms activated by both AA and DAG?

If there are specific PKC isoforms which are only activated by AA or DAG 
does chelerythrine only inhibit one set of isoforms, or does 
chelerythrine inhibit both set of PKCs?

All and any information that is known about this will be appreciated.  I 
have not had any luck in finding out the answers to my questions through 
literature searches on Medline.

Thank you for your help and advice.

Dale


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Subject: Re: Homotrimer-ONE!!! binding site?
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In article <1995Mar31.202005.10900@alw.nih.gov>,
John Kuszewski <johnk@spasm.niddk.nih.gov> wrote:
>In article <Pine.ULT.3.90a.950327125443.1707A-100000@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>, aflaloc@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL (Claude Aflalo) writes:
>|> On Mon, 27 Mar 1995, Ralf Morgenstern wrote:
>|> 
>|> > Our binding studies indicate that microsomal glutathione transferase binds
>|> > only one GSH per homotrimer. Are there known examples of homotrimers (or
>|> > homooligomers) with one binding site only. I have a hard time envisioning
>|> > this because of symmetry reasons (or lack of imagination). Perhaps three
>|> > overlapping sites exist of which only one can be occupied at a time. Does
>|> > anyone know of examples that describe this situation.
>|> > -- 
>|> > Ralf Morgenstern, IMM, Karolinska Institutet, Box 210, S-17177, SWEDEN
>|> > Tlf. +46-8-7287574, Fax, +46-8-334467, E-mail: ralf.morgenstern@imm.ki.se
>|> > 
>|> > 
>|> Have a look at the "Alternating binding change" mechanism propose by Paul 
>|> D. Boyer in the 80's for the mechanism of ATP synthase (F0F1) of bacteria,
>|> chloroplasts and mitochondria. The enzyme has 6 binding sites for 
>|> nucleotides, 3 of them act as alternating catalytic sites. The mechanism 
>|> is characterized by negative cooperativity in binding AND positive 
>|> cooperativity in catalysis.
>|> 
>|> Claude Aflalo ###########################################################
>|> Dept. of Life Sciences			Phones: Office 972-7-472118
>|> Ben Gurion University of the Negev	        Lab    972-7-472119
>|> P.O.Box 653				        Fax    972-7-276201
>|> Beer Sheva 84105 Israel			email:  aflaloc@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
>|> 
>
>Or have a look at the GroEL structure.  It has 14 monomers, and each has a 
>binding site, but only one binding site per 14mer is active at any one time.
>
>-- 
>                                   _____________
>                                   |        ___/_
>                                   |        |/  /
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>John Kuszewski                     ||  |/  /|  ||      
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>that's MISTER protein G to you!     |/__/|      |
>                                      /_________|

I don't remember the exact protein/receptor, but there is a ligand gated 
ion channel which has four fold symmetry.  Each subunit has a binding 
site but only one ligand is bound per tetramer.  The talk I was at, where 
this was being discussed, indicated that the ligand sat down in the 
binding pocket formed by the tetramer, in one of four equally probable 
orientations.  I will try and find out the researcher's name and the 
channel he is studying.

Dale


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Hello Mandy
Here at the Protein and Carbohydrate Structure Facility, Univ of Michigan,
C-terminal sequence analysis is performed on a routine basis on a Hewlett 
Packard model 1009A.  We routinely obtain a clear identification on at
least two residues at the 0.1 to 1nmol level although results are dependent 
on sample preparation and properties of the protein.  Some background peaks
may increase by cycle #3.  Sequence runs as long as 8 residues have been
obtained for some proteins.  Samples can be submitted either lyophilized or in
solution, as PVDF is incompatible with this new chemistry.  As further 
enhancements to the chemistry are developed, investigators will be apprised
of improvements as they are implemented here at the facility, as we are working
closely with the kind staff at HP.  Should you have any additional questions I 
can be reached at the following:
Jake Tropea
PCSF Univ of Mich
2580 MSRB II
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From: Stefan.Rosen@mbioekol.lu.se
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Hello!

I want to enzymatically pile off the O-linked sugars (totally) in fetuin
(from fetal calf serum). Are there anyone that have own practical
experience about this subject and knows which enzyme(s) that works best
(company,no, extent of deglycosylation..) ?. 

Thank you,

Stefan Rosén
Department of Microbial Ecology
Lund University
Sweden
E-mail: Stefan.Rosen@mbioekol.lu.se

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This has been posted in bionet.general. I'm crossposting it to the
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Voting is now open on the following proposal to create the mailing
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: jpwscyto@pavilion.co.uk (Jon Waterman-Smith)
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Subject: LAUNCH OF FREE MAGS/WWW PAGES FOR BIONET...
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Within the next 6 weeks a new series of magazines will be launched, which
will have a hard copy available to interested parties, as well as a major
publication series available on the web. The magazines will deal with many
subject areas, and will have hypertext points imprinted into features, so
the reader can access the WWW, and simply go to the relevant pages,
following the same hypertext links as shown in the magazines.

The future.......

Our aim is to promote science, and scientific issues mainly in the field
of bioscience. Both the magazines and the WWW pages will eventually have
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 02 23:00:00 1995
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I'm not surprised that serine did not work as the recognition sites for 
kinases are usually multiple amino acids. You might try staurosporine, 
which inhibits a broad range of ser/thr kinases including PKC and 
proline-dependent kinases. PKA can be inhibited by a synthetic peptide 
called wiptide (I think). If none of those inhibit, you may check for 
casein kinases. Casein kinase I can be inhibited by the selective 
inhibitor CKI-7 (from Sekagaku; sp?), while CKII can be inhibited by 
heparin. Casein kinases are found at pretty high levels in the brain too. 
Hope this helps.

BAH

On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Gary Krause wrote:

> I am trying to isolate the serine kinase that phosphorylates eIF-2 in the 
> brain.  I am in need of a general inhibitor of serine kinases.  I have tried 
> serine with minimal success.  Any suggestions would be welcome.  Thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> -------------------------------------------
> Gary Krause (gkrause@cms.cc.wayne.edu)
> Department of Emergency Medicine
> Wayne State University, Detroit, MI USA
> 
> 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 02 23:00:00 1995
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From: baker@iastate.edu (Wayne R. Baker)
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Subject: Re: D2O exchange for proteins
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In bionet.molbio.proteins,  Giovanni Maga <maga@vetbio.unizh.ch> wrote
:
:Dear bionetters,
:we want to begin to study a small protein (30kD, pI around 
:5) by neutron scattering. We can purify such protein in mg amounts at
:homogenity, However, we need to provide it in D2O rather than that in H2O
:for neutron scattering analysis. We tried once by liophylizing our protein
:and then resuspending it in phosphate buffer at pH 6 in D2O, but we had
:serious troubles in getting it soluble again. Does anybody know a good
:method to exchange H2O buffers with D2O buffers? Is the pH important in
:this reaction (well, the pD in this case)? Any buffering system will work
:or some is preferred? I tried to get advice by reading a couple of issues
:of Methods in Enzymology which were dealing with nmr studies, but I didn't
:find an answer to my (basic, I know) questions.
:Any help will be greatly appreciated. Answer here or e-mail to:

The exchange rate is dependent on pH. Different proton types will have
different rates; see p24+ in "NMR of Proteins and Nucleic Acids" by Kurt
Wutrich for a discussion of the pH-dependence. While you may select a pH
where *most* of the amide protons will exchange, ones involved in strong
hydrogen bonds will not exchange under native conditions. The extent of
the exchange is used to measure the H-bonding characteristics of the
proton which can give you information about secondary structure. 

There is a neutron diffraction study of RNase A which may address many
of your questions. See Wlodawer, A., & Sjolin, L. (1982) Proc. Natl.
Acad. Sci. USA vol 79 p1418 and Wlodawer, A., & Sjolin, L. (1983)
Biochemistry vol 22 p2720. They exchanged in deuterated buffer for six
months. 

Finally, increased temperature or denaturants will help in completion of
exchange, if your protein can handle it. However, IMHO, the information
to be gained from incomplete exchange may be just as valuable.

Wayne Baker (baker@iastate.edu)  	Always do right!
4288 Molecular Biology Building 	This will gratify some people 
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Protein introns (inteins)
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I saw an article from mbdinger@waikato about Help with Protein Introns, but
couldn't retreive it.   We have been working on inteins for some time,  so
if you would like some information, please repost.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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From: heicappell@ukbf.fu-berlin.de (Ruediger Heicappell)
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I need information on commercially available antibodies with specificity for alpha, beta and 
gamma catenin and plakoglobin. Information on companies that sell these antibodies would 
be highly appreciated.

Ruediger Heicappell (heicappell@ukbf.fu-berlin.del)


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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From: varma@okra.ece.ucdavis.edu (Hemant Varma)
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Subject: E-mail address needed
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i

Hello,
       I was wondering if anybody knows an e-mail address
 of the following authors in Brazil:

A.C. Gaudio and Y. Takahata 

of the following paper:

 Calculation of molecular surface area with numerical factors

 Computers & Chemistry Vol. 16, No.4, 277-284

I am basically looking for the program that they wrote to
compute the accessible surface areas. Any help would be
appreciated. Critiques on their method are welcome as well!

Thanks,

Hemant

 



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Critique of Expression Cloning in Xenopus (Need Info!)
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I was wondering if anyone could point me to (or provide me with) any
criticisms or critiques of expression cloning using Xenopus oocytes.
I've read Dascal's thorough review in CRC Critical Reviews in Biochemistry
(22(4):317-387,1987), but it's 8 years old.  I'd appreciate it if someone
could provide me with any up-to-date info or cites (for example, concerns
about the accuracy of post-translational modifications in expressed proteins
vs. native proteins, changes in 2nd messgr. couplings ins expressed vs.
native, etc.).

In addition, if anyone knows of a citation for a more recent review of this
technique, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for the help!!

-- Sam

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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From: varma@okra.ece.ucdavis.edu (Hemant Varma)
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Subject: GEPOL
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hello everyone,
               Here is one more request. I am looking for a 
program called GEPOL. It has been developed by E. Silla et al.
(J. of Mol. Garphics, 1990, Vol 8 (168-172). They give a e-mail
address, but that does not work from here.. Any information
will be greatly appreciated.

   I will soon post a summary of 
all the available programs that compute accessible surface
areas..Thanks to all those who responded and were kind enough
to share the information..

 Hemant

varma@cs.ucdavis.edu



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: Re: GFP: What is Coelenterazine
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U. Thoenes asked:

>During my literture studies about the "Green Fluorescent Protein" I found
>a component named "coelenterazine" (Inouye and Tsuji, FEBS Letters 351
>(1994) 211-214) as the organic substrate for aequorin. During the reaction
>it is oxidized to coelenteramide.
>Is there anybody out there who can tell me the chemical formula and
>structure as well as some details about coelenterazine?
>
>In some ealder papers one also can find "coelenterates". I never hears
>about this word. Is this a certain sort of organism ?
>

Coelenterazine is the substrate of aequorin from Aequoria victoria and of
the luciferase from Renilla reniformis. Aequoria is a jelly fish and
Renilla is a colonial marine animal also called sea pansy. Both organisms
used to be called coelenterates, but now are called cnidarians.
Coelenterazine was originally named luciferin, a generic name for a
substrate of a luciferase, a light producing enzyme. Coelenterazine is
2-(p-hydroxybenzyl)-6-(p-hydroxyphenyl)-
3,7-dihydroimidazo[1,2-a]pyrazin-3-one. Its structure and chemistry were
first described by Hori et al. 1973, Biochemistry, 12:4463. A review is:
M.J. Cormier, 1981,  Renilla and Aequorea Bioluminescence in
"Bioluminescence and Chemiluminescence" published by Academic Press, Inc.

Alice C. Harmon
University of Florida



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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I am looking for a recent review on the enzymology of hyaluronic acid 
biosynthesis in both procaryotic and eucaryotic organisms.  If you are aware 
of one, will you please post the citation?

Thank you
Scott E. Nichols
nicholsse@phibred.com
Pioneer Hi-Bred International

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 03 23:00:00 1995
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Subject: fluorescent labeling of oligonucleotide
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I aneed methods to fluorescently label oligonucleotides on 5' and 3' 
ends, by covalent bonds.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Apr 04 23:00:00 1995
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Hi everybody!

I'm searching for information on heat proof enzymes and their
 possible application in enzyme reactors. In particular, I would
like to know if there  are examples of reactions that is useful to conduct
at high temperature (by "useful" I mean, for example, removal-degradation of
undesired by-products by heating...or heat-driven reactions...).

Please contact me at the e-mail address:
biodev@ibf.unige.it

thank you

Marco Lanzi
Institute of Biophysics
School of Medicine
Genova-Italy


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Dear all,

    As far as I know, AUG serves as a start codon for translation.
  It also codes for Met or when located at the first position, for
  formil-Met. Now, I found in a textbook that GUG codon which codes
  for Val, is ambiguous in that it codes both valine and methionine.
  Is that means that in some proteins the translation starts in Val
  residue ? If the answer is yes, than how the translation system
  "knows" when to add Met and when - Val ?

  Please send your answer to e-mail:

  bmpouny@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il

                                        thanks,
                                                Yoni

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Subject: Re: SDS PAGE and UREA in sample
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Brian A. Hollander (afn08460@FREENET.UFL.EDU) wrote:
: In my experience it does not as long as you *do not heat* your samples. 
: If you heat them the proteins in your samples will becone carbamylated 
: due to the ionized urea. This probably happens to some extent even 
: without boiling, but It hasn't seemed to affect migration if the samples 
: are processed and loaded at room temp. at least in my hands.

: BAH

: On 8 Mar 1995, NAME RAVI PRAKASH .D wrote:

: > Dear Netters,
: > Does the presence of Urea in the sample for SDS PAGE have any effect on the
: > migration of the protein samples in the gel?
: >  The urea concentration is 5M in my protein and I loaded 15ul of this along
: > with 5ul of 4X sample buffer(Laemli). Any suggestions will be helpfull.
: > 
: > 
: >in my book urea act in the same way as mercaptoethanol and breaks s-s bond
 ( or is it h bonds) the point is that you have already sds in the gel and in
 the buffer this "denatures the protein" if you want to find out about the effect
of urea on bond then there is a serise of papers due out on the avidity of immuno 
molecules for the detection of (a bacteria l  carried by cats).
If i were you i would mix a few gels with various concs of urea and run some test proteins
select some multiunit ones and somne with known s-s bonds etc.  Try mixind it with the
 same sameples and running them.
Bye chris
 

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Subject: Re: native PAGE gels
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S. Khuri (abskhuri@reading.ac.uk) wrote:

: Does anyone out there have any information about native PAGE gels?
: The books only seem to skim over the subject, are there any Idiot's Guides
: out there that I could have a look at?
: Thanks!!
: Sawsan Khuri
what do you want to know.
we did some with substrates included in the gel(protein) and ran
 proteinase on it.  The result of this was that the protein had to 
munch its way throught the protein to move down the gel.
We just made thte gel without the sds according to the instructions
replace the SDS with a voulme of something to keep the % composition right
There are a lot of papers on the subject, the first one on PAGE is quoted
 by every one t

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I am currently involved in a research project and I need your help!  Do you
do cojugations, labelings, etc. to proteins using water soluble
carbodiimides, especially EDC?  If so, or if you know of procedures for
doing so, would you please take a few moments and either send me your exact
procedure or a reference to the one you use?  I am especially interested in
hearing from those of you who are linking amine functions to Asp or Glu in a
protein.  Please include in your reponse the following:
-pH used;
-time of reaction;
-concentration of EDC or WSCDI used;
-concentration of protein/labeling agent; and
-temp used.
I am posting this in the hope of getting as wide a variety of procedures as
possible.  I will send to all who repond a summary of the procedures I get,
as well as a summary of the results of our experiments (NOTE: I am not
selling anything, nor will I be!).  Thanks!

Carl (carl_hoeger@qm.salk.edu)
Carl Hoeger (carl_hoeger@qm.salk.edu)
"Nothing is foolproof, as fools are so ingenious"
:-]

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Subject: Re: Ca specific electrode, Ca chelators BAPTA or APTRA
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Valery F. Thompson (valeryt@ag.arizona.edu) wrote:
: I am interested in using a Ca2+ specific electrode for measurement of free 
: Ca2+ in solutions.  I have read that it is possible to measure down to 1µM 
: Ca2+.  I am primarily interested in the range of 1-1000µM.  How reliable are 
: the values at the 1µM level?  Is it possible to go lower?

: I am also interested in hearing about possible interferences with the 
: measurements.  I know Tris interferes, but at what level?  

: I have tried using some of the chelators such as 4F- APTRA and 5,5'-dibromo 
: BAPTA, but without much success.   The absorbance of 
: these chelators does not seem to change very much (only about 0.02AU) when 
: going from "Ca free" to "Ca satd" at a chelator concentration that would be 
: acceptable for my experiments (about 25µM).  The purpose is to measure the 
: free Ca conc in a protein solution, and 25µM of my protein is about 
: 2.5mg/ml (I am interested in the Ca binding properties of the protein).  
: Unfortunately I only have about 10mg of it and it is very difficult to purify. 
: Does anyone know how stable these chelators are in solution?

: I have soaked all of my glassware and plasticware (except pipet tips and 
: microcentrifuge tubes) in 10% HNO3 and rinsed them with high purity water.  I 
: have previously measured the Ca contamination of my stock reagents by AA and 
: found them to be below the detection limit.

: If anyone has some information on the Ca specific electrode (I have requested 
: literature from several companies, but haven't received it yet) or on the use 
: of the chelators 5,5'-dibromo BAPTA or 4F-APTRA, I would appreciate hearing 
: about it. 

: Thanks.

: Valery Thompson
: Muscle Biology Group
: University of Arizona
: Tucson, AZ  85721
: valeryt@ag.arizona.edu.
Dear val.
         I think that you could have the need for an ion selective electrode system.  Using vancomycin as the selective agent it works much like the glass ph electrode.  Im trying to remember this of the top of my head so i would look into it thurther. There should be some commercial devices available with use ISFET (ion selective field effect transistors) as the detection method.  Work in this filed has been going on for years.  Of course enzyme biosensors are the way forward.
Ihope that helps you a little.
bye chriss     ss 

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Did anyone ever use CTAB in an acidic system of protein electrophoresis
just like SDS in an alkalinic system?

Ding Ming

ming@mbcrr.harvard.edu

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Have you checked the Pierce Signal Transduction catalog ?
PierceChem@mcimail.com
Keld.

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The Pierce OligoLink kit chemically changes the 5' phosphate
to either a free amine (NH2) or a free sulfhydryl (SH) depending
on the protocol you pick. This can then be used to link the oligo
to NHS-Fluorescein for example (also Pierce).
You can E-mail Pierce at PierceChem@mcimail.com. Remember to
give your address and phone/fax# since their information is not
avaialable as e-mail, only mail or fax.
In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.950404085917.5834B-100000@helix.nih.gov>, "Krzysztot W. Lazowski" <krzychwl@helix.nih.gov> says:
>
>I aneed methods to fluorescently label oligonucleotides on 5' and 3'
>ends, by covalent bonds.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Apr 04 23:00:00 1995
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Dear netters,
     Does anyone have information regarding what 
precipitates at various ammonium sulfate concentrations?  I 
would like to use the precipitation to get rid of as much 
non-proteinaceous material as possible and be left with 
the maximum amount of protein.  I will post a summary in
~3 weeks.
Thanks in advance for your help. 

Regards,
John Marcus 




_________________________________________________________
John Marcus            Marcus@tpp.uq.oz.au (Dr J.Marcus)
Cooperative Research Centre for Tropical Plant Pathology
5th Level John Hines Building
University of Queensland
St. Lucia, QLD 4072
AUSTRALIA
Fax: 61-7-365-4771
Phone: 61-7-365-4764

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From: bucc0003@gold.tc.umn.edu (Paul A Bucciaglia)
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You can also stain SDS-PAGels with CuCl2 (0.3M).  This  is a negative 
stain which allows one to visualize the protein bands as cleared zones 
agianst an opaque background.  Excise the gel slice, destain in 250 mM 
EDTA, 100mM TrisCL pH7.6, and electroelute.  The protein is completly 
soluble after destaining, as it avoids any kind of MeOH or acetic acid  
as in Coomassie.  Its more sensitive than Coomassie, although the gels 
are not as easy to interpret (IMOP).  Be sure to visualize against a 
black background.

paul bucciaglia


udbl119@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk (Mandy Johnstone) writes:

>In article <tberthe.43.00094906@gandalf.crihan.fr> tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr (Thierry Berthe) writes:
>>Subject: Elution of proteins from polyacrylamide gel
>>From: tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr (Thierry Berthe)
>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 09:17:03

>>What is the best way to elute proteins from polyacrylamide gel ????

>Stain the gel with Coomassie Blue (0.1%BB R-250, 10% MeOH, 0.5% Acetic Acid) 
>for about 15-30 mins depending on gel thickness and then destain with 10% 
>MeOH. Cut the desired band out with a razor blade and then electroelute the 
>protein from the acrylamide. We normally use an Amicon Centrilutor 
>Microelectroelutor which works great. The benefits of using such a low concn 
>of acetic acid in the stain is that high levels of acetic acid cause the 
>proteins to precipitate in the gel and make it incredibly difficult to 
>electroelute. Hope this helps. Good Luck.
>M.


>_______________
>Mandy Johnstone
>(M.Johnstone@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk)

>King's College, London.

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In article <tberthe.43.00094906@gandalf.crihan.fr> tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr (Thierry Berthe) writes:
>Subject: Elution of proteins from polyacrylamide gel
>From: tberthe@gandalf.crihan.fr (Thierry Berthe)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 09:17:03

>What is the best way to elute proteins from polyacrylamide gel ????

Stain the gel with Coomassie Blue (0.1%BB R-250, 10% MeOH, 0.5% Acetic Acid) 
for about 15-30 mins depending on gel thickness and then destain with 10% 
MeOH. Cut the desired band out with a razor blade and then electroelute the 
protein from the acrylamide. We normally use an Amicon Centrilutor 
Microelectroelutor which works great. The benefits of using such a low concn 
of acetic acid in the stain is that high levels of acetic acid cause the 
proteins to precipitate in the gel and make it incredibly difficult to 
electroelute. Hope this helps. Good Luck.
M.


_______________
Mandy Johnstone
(M.Johnstone@bay.cc.kcl.ac.uk)

King's College, London.

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From: stormo@beagle.Colorado.EDU (Gary Stormo)
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Subject: Re: Start codons in E. coli translation.
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BMPOUNY@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il writes:

>Dear all,

>    As far as I know, AUG serves as a start codon for translation.
>  It also codes for Met or when located at the first position, for
>  formil-Met. Now, I found in a textbook that GUG codon which codes
>  for Val, is ambiguous in that it codes both valine and methionine.
>  Is that means that in some proteins the translation starts in Val
>  residue ? If the answer is yes, than how the translation system
>  "knows" when to add Met and when - Val ?

>  Please send your answer to e-mail:

>  bmpouny@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il

>                                        thanks,
>                                                Yoni

There are two Met-tRNAs in E. coli, one for translating internal AUG 
codons and one for initiation.  The initiator tRNA always begins translation
with a formyl-Met.  This tRNA usually decodes AUG (the most common start
codon) but it will also decode GUG and UUG, with less efficiency.  In fact
there is one documented case of an AUA initiation codon and mutations 
have been identified with CUG and ACG initiation codons.  These are much
less efficient than the standard initiation codons, but still do function
at a low level.
In summary, all proteins start with formyl-Met (which is often removed from
the final protein product).  This is usually encoded by an AUG start codon
but other codons can also be decoded by the initiator tRNA.  In cases 
where GUG or some other codon serves as the start of translation, it is
still translated as formyl-Met rather than what that codon would be
translated as internally.

Hope that helps.

-- 
Gary Stormo       |   
MCD Biology       |   Keep in mind that to the advertising industry, 
Univ. of Colorado |   every day is April Fool's Day.                 
Boulder, CO 80309 |

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Subject: Re: Help with Protein Introns
Date: 6 Apr 1995 14:27:18 GMT
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In article <1995Apr4.161608.37742@waikato.ac.nz>, mbdinger@waikato.ac.nz says:
>
>Hello,
>
>I'm currently researching "Protein Introns", and am in need of information
>on this subject.
>
>If anybody is involved in this field could provide any information, or knows
>of references that I can look up, it would be greatly appreciated.
>Abstract searches on the libraries CD-ROMs revealed nothing.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Any replies to: mbdinger@waikato.ac.nz.
>  
>
I've responded in detail by e-mail to Marcel, but have recieved mail from
others wanting to know what inteins are.

Inteins are in-frame insertions in genes that are excised at the protein level
by a process called protein splicing.   The two ends of the external protein
(or extein) are ligated to give a fully functional mature protein.  Examples have
been found in mycobacteria, yeast, and archaebacteria.   The inteins differ
from each other in sequence, apart from characteristic splice site motifs, and
they also have LAGLI-DADG signatures.  About 10 examples have been found
so far, and as others are found they will help us answer a number of questions
about their function,  origin, and occurance.

Peter Jenner

(Dept Mycobacterial Research
NIMR, Mill Hill, London,NW7 1AA)

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I've had great results electoeluting proteins from CBB-stained gels using an
Amicon Centrilutor with Centricon microconcentrators.  Unless you need 
to use a really low MW cutoff unit, the dye passes through the 
concentrator, and in any case there is no concentration of buffer 
components so you don't have to dialyze or lyphylize the sample 
afterwards.  The recovered protein can be readily concentrated by 
centrifugation (although in my hands this took longer than indicated in 
the product info).> > 
AE

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Judith A. Partaledis (partaledis@vpharm.com) wrote:
: I am looking for a protease deficient strain of Pichia pastoris.

Actually there is patent about the construction and use of protease
deficient strain owned by Gleeson and Howard, Pat.No.:05324660, 28.6.1994

I am not familiar with american patent laws, but I think the strains
described have to be availble for evaluation and there is no need
for a licence, if you want to use them for research.

Holger Luettgen

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Hi,

	I have purified a protein using anion exchange chromatography 
followed by RP-HPLC on a C18 column with an acetonitrile/water gradient 
(both containing 0.1% TFA). Re-running aliquots of my active fractions 
on the C18 column gives a peak with the same elution time confirming the 
presence of my protein.
	 My problem arises when analyzing the protein by 
electrospray mass spectrometry. The protein has a predicted mass of 
about 6.5 kD and is quite acidic with a pI of about 4.0. I have sent 
samples (200-400 pmoles) of the protein to two different institutions for 
analysis and in both cases they were unable to obtain a signal in either 
positive or negative ion modes. It was suggested that residual TFA 
remaining after lyophilization might be causing interference but 
desalting the samples (PD-10 columns) against water prior to 
lyophilization did not seem to help.
	Any suggestions as to what might be causing this problem and 
possible solutions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Joe



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Subject: Protein interactions- none, now what???
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So- I would like to rack everyone's brain. 
I have proteins interacting with themselves (ie X with X, and Y with Y) in the yeast two hybrid system, and functioning in vivo in a yeast model system.
SO what if I make a mutation (deletion or single aa change) and the protein no longer interact of function?  What would be the best way to assess why I have lost interaction/function.  The proteins I am studying function is a multienzyme complex so they form 24mers, or tetramers depending on which ones we are talking about.

Margaret Lanterman
mlanterm@gmm.gen.emory.edu


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From: ggerton@obgyn.upenn.edu (George L. Gerton)
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Subject: Re: Use of CTAB in acidic electrophoretic system of proteins?
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In article <3lupdt$fhc@cisunix1.dfci.harvard.edu>, ming@mbcrr.harvard.edu
(Ding Ming) wrote:

> Did anyone ever use CTAB in an acidic system of protein electrophoresis
> just like SDS in an alkalinic system?
> 
> Ding Ming
> 
> ming@mbcrr.harvard.edu

Yes.

See, for example:  Fairbanks, G. and Avruch, J.  1972.  Four gel systems
for electrophoretic fractionation of membrane proteins using ionic
detergents.  J. Supramol. Struct. 1:66-75.

-- 
George L. Gerton
ggerton@obgyn.upenn.edu

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Subject: 3-10 helix backbone angles
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Can anyone tell me the standard backbone phi and 
psi angles for a 3-10 helix?

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I started with Tropix and went to ECL which was wonderful and more sensitive (and still is).  I recommend sticking with ECL- it is the best
Margaret Lanterman
no I don't work for Amersham




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I have a problem concerning the electrophoretic blotting of proteins  
from a polyacrylamide gel to a small pore PVDF membrane, using a  
Hoeffer Transfor apparatus, TE 50. I do the transfer in a 10 mM CAPS  
transfer buffer, pH 11, 10% methanol, since I wish to sequence the  
transferred peptides. I cool the buffer to 10-12oC, use a stir bar,  
make every attempt to remove bubbles, but still I get protein bands  
swirling within the membrane as though local ion currents have been  
set up. This only occurs in certain (unpredictable) areas, but  
obviously it would be desirable to avoid this. 


Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Any likely  
solutions?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Nora Plesofsky-Vig
nora@biosci.cbs.umn.edu

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From: nef@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Nick Fisher)
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In article <3lupdt$fhc@cisunix1.dfci.harvard.edu>, ming@mbcrr.harvard.edu
(Ding Ming) wrote:

> Did anyone ever use CTAB in an acidic system of protein electrophoresis
> just like SDS in an alkalinic system?
> 
> Ding Ming
> 
> ming@mbcrr.harvard.edu

I have tried this system...CTAB is useable, but not particulary water soluble
(a 1% w/v solution will crystallise out in a day or so). Suitable buffers for
a discontinuous gel system are acetic acid/KOH at pH 6.8 for the stacking gel
and pH 4.3 for the separating gel.[AcH] is 5 mM in the stacker and 29 mM
in the separating gel. Remember to exchange the bromophenol blue in the
loading buffer for methylene blue or someother cationic dye, and to run
the gel towards the cathode ;) TEMED is not an especially good
polymerisation catalyst at low pH, so
try riboflavin instead. Read chapter 1 of Hames and Rickwoods book (Gel
Electrophoresis of Proteins, 2e 1990, IRL press) if you don't already have
it for a good description of "non-Laemlli" polyacrylamide gel systems.    


Nick Fisher
Biochemistry Dept.
Cambridge University
UK

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Subject: Protein Crosslinking by UV
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I am hoping to identify and isolate a membrane protein using a 
radio-iodinated/ tritiated inhibitor protein that is known to 
bind. The protocol I was going to follow involves covalently 
binding the 2 proteins (once initial binding has taken place) 
using UV.

Is this as easy as it sounds, can this UV technique be applied 
to all proteins or does it have specific structural requirements 
 and which radio isotope would be better (assuming that 
iodination doesn't alter the binding of the 2 proteins in the 
first place)?

Thanks for the help


Simon

(No signature quotation, sorry!)


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In article <3m1qdh$5eu@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, djdlab@bimcore.emory.edu (Dean Danner Lab) writes:
|> So- I would like to rack everyone's brain. 
|> I have proteins interacting with themselves (ie X with X, and Y with Y) in the yeast two hybrid system, and functioning in vivo in a yeast model system.
|> SO what if I make a mutation (deletion or single aa change) and the protein no longer interact of function?  What would be the best way to assess why I have lost interaction/function.  The proteins I am studying function is a multienzyme complex so they f|> orm 24mers, or tetramers depending on which ones we are talking about.
|> 

(Please try to limit yourself to 80 characters/line!)

If you want to know if your mutation has destabilized each monomer so 
much that it's unfolded the protein, have a look at the CD or NMR
spectra.  Calorimetry would also show changes in the stability.

If you want to see if you've just destabilized the interaction surfaces,
do some ultracentrifugation or light scattering measurements of the 
monomer-polymer equilibria.

If you see no changes in the free energy of monomer-monomer interactions
and you haven't unfolded the protein, then perhaps your mutations
are right in the active site.

Hope this helps.


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Subject: Re: electroblotting of proteins
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In article <9504062313.AA04770@mani.cbs.umn.edu>, nora@biosci.cbs.umn.edu wrote:

> I have a problem concerning the electrophoretic blotting of proteins  
> from a polyacrylamide gel to a small pore PVDF membrane, using a  
> Hoeffer Transfor apparatus, TE 50. I do the transfer in a 10 mM CAPS  
> transfer buffer, pH 11, 10% methanol, since I wish to sequence the  
> transferred peptides. I cool the buffer to 10-12oC, use a stir bar,  
> make every attempt to remove bubbles, but still I get protein bands  
> swirling within the membrane as though local ion currents have been  
> set up. This only occurs in certain (unpredictable) areas, but  
> obviously it would be desirable to avoid this. 
> 
I've never used this buffer system, so I can't think of any specific
problems, but here's a suggestion.  I've had bubble problems sometimes
when the transfer was running at high current conditions.   When the blot
sandwich is placed in the apparatus near the cathode (-) it is subjected
to more bubbles (2e- + 2 H2O -> 2OH- + H2) than when placed near the anode
(+) (H2O -> 2H= + 1/2 O2 + 2e-).  So when I have the choice, I always set
up the sandwiches in the slot closest to the anode.  In theory, the
stirring should prevent the bubbles from causing problems in your case,
but it won't hurt to try it this way.

John A. Newitt  <newitt@ncifcrf.gov>
National Institutes of Health
Bethesda, Maryland  USA

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In article <3m1qdh$5eu@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, djdlab@bimcore.emory.edu
(Dean Danner Lab) wrote:

> So- I would like to rack everyone's brain. 
> I have proteins interacting with themselves (ie X with X, and Y with Y) in the yeast two hybrid system, and functioning in vivo in a yeast model system.
> SO what if I make a mutation (deletion or single aa change) and the protein no longer interact of function?  What would be the best way to assess why I have lost interaction/function.  The proteins I am studying function is a multienzyme complex so they form 24mers, or tetramers depending on which ones we are talking about.
> 
> Margaret Lanterman
> mlanterm@gmm.gen.emory.edu

Well, if you can show that aa mutation = loss of function and that loss of
function follows from loss of monomers interaction it's already a fact.
Being the only difference between wt and mut one aa, it is not so azardous
to speculate that it was the reason (BTW, a single aa mutation which
abolishes protein protein interation should be *very* critical). I would
suggest to test this in other systems than two-hybrid, just as a
confirmation. Since your multienzyme is forming 4mer or even 24mers, it
could be easy to distinguish the case of subassemblies or only monomers in
solution by gel-filtration or native PAGE. Then, you can speculate about
the role of your aa.
maga@vetbio.unizh.ch

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Subject: Re: Tropix vs. ECL
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Dale Yuzuki's Work Account (dale@JWCI.ORG) wrote:
: Dear netters,

: I've been using Amersham's ECL system for my Westerns for a few months
: now; recently I've come across Tropix's `Western-Light Plus' tertiary
: detection system. How does it compare to the ECL? 

: (For those not familiar with Tropix's system, it uses a biotinylated
: secondary antibody, and a tertiary strep-avidin linked to AP, and
: developed with their CSPD substrate.)

: FWIW I'm looking for the highest sensitivity around. My mouse sera 
: gives me very low signals of polyclonal Ab in my system. Thanks in
: advance.

The sensitivity of the detection can be increased in the ECL system
by combining it with Pierce Chemical Co.'s ABC kit.  This kit uses
biotin conjugated secondary antibody, avidin and biotin conjugated
peroxidase or AP.  The amplification comes from the multiple biotin binding
sites of avidin and the multiple biotins attaced to the enzyme.  A
complex between avidin and the biotinylated enzyme is first formed 
which is then reacted with the primary-secondary-biotinylated complex.
Out experience is that it greater than 10x more sensitive than ECL
by itself.  The cost of the ABC kit, however, is high ($340) so if 
your antibodies are free and you have enough antigen it is better
to use the ECL system straight.

--

Ciao,
Rich 

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> I have a problem concerning the electrophoretic blotting of proteins  
> from a polyacrylamide gel to a small pore PVDF membrane, using a  
> Hoeffer Transfor apparatus, TE 50. I do the transfer in a 10 mM CAPS  
> transfer buffer, pH 11, 10% methanol
deleted
but still I get protein bands  
> swirling within the membrane as though local ion currents have been  
> set up. 
deleted
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Nora Plesofsky-Vig
> nora@biosci.cbs.umn.edu

Nora,
     I use these conditions for my blots and a biorad transblot tank
apparatus.  It works well for me.  The problem that you are describing
sounds like you are still getting bubbles in your Scotch brite pads.  I use
150-200mA overnight, this gives me about 25 V (gels size is about 15 X
15cm).  You may also try the semidry blotters.  I use the one from
Millipore fairly often also, it works good to.  Good Luck,

Bill Prichett

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From: magn8831@uidaho.edu (Tim Magnuson)
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Subject: Pigments binding to enzymes
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I am working with an extracellular enzyme secreted by a Streptomyces spp.
My organism produces a fair amount of pigments, and these interfere
with purification and analysis. I've tried PVPP, Biopol, polyethylene-
imine etc. with not much luck to separate the pigments from the 
enzyme. Standard purification procedures (MonoQ, Rotofor etc.) purify
activity somewhat, but the protein still has gunk on it. I don't want 
to have to resort to gunk-out carb cleaner; any tips, advice, methods
would be greatly appreciated. Please respond to above address.

Thanx
T. S. Magnuson

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Stefan, 

why do you want to do it with an enzyme? There are several chemical
methods for deglycosylation of O-linkeds. One way to do it would be
an acid treatment with trifluoromethane sulfonic acid (TFMS). 
Alternatively you could do an alkaline beta elimination (followed 
by a reduction if you are interested in the glycans). Mail me if you
need more details - I should be able to look up references for you. 

Good luck, 

Achim

A. Treumann
Carbohydrate Research Centre
Department of Biochemistry, University of Dundee, Dundee DD1 4HN
email a.treumann@dundee.ac.uk, fax +44-382-322583, tel 344301

Stefan.Rosen@mbioekol.lu.se wrote:

: Hello!

: I want to enzymatically pile off the O-linked sugars (totally) in fetuin
: (from fetal calf serum).

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In article 11457@alw.nih.gov, johnk@spasm.niddk.nih.gov (John Kuszewski) writes:
>Can anyone tell me the standard backbone phi and 
>psi angles for a 3-10 helix?

From Voet & Voet's Biochemistry (1990)

For a right handed 3(10) helix
phi = -49 degrees
psi = -26 degrees

Bill Mounts
Vysis, Inc.
Downers Grove, IL  USA





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From: mack@ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack)
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In article <1995Apr6.133249.31068@oxvaxd> sg@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Simon Golding) writes:
>I am hoping to identify and isolate a membrane protein using a 
>radio-iodinated/ tritiated inhibitor protein that is known to 
>bind. The protocol I was going to follow involves covalently 
>binding the 2 proteins (once initial binding has taken place) 
>using UV.
>
>Is this as easy as it sounds, 

The yields can be poor and the residues linked can be non-specific
(although you may not care). The UV tends to fry the protein before
it can cross link. A better version, although much higher tech
is to use UV laser cross linking, one pulse does it. From a poster
I saw, I believe there is a set up at OXford to do this, however I've
forgotten the name. However Peter von Hippel (in Oregon) should know
who he is. Another guy is Buc (Buch?) in Paris. 



Joe Mack
mack@ncifcrf.gov

.sig under construction










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In article <32B139677FA@botany.uq.oz.au>, J.Marcus@botany.uq.oz.au
("Marcus, Dr J.") wrote:

> Dear netters,
>      Does anyone have information regarding what 
> precipitates at various ammonium sulfate concentrations?  I 
> would like to use the precipitation to get rid of as much 
> non-proteinaceous material as possible and be left with 
> the maximum amount of protein.  I will post a summary in
> ~3 weeks.

John Marcus:

The best indirect reference to what would ppt in ammonium sulfate would be
the reciprocal of the elution pattern from HIC (hydrophobic interaction
chromatography).  The last to come out is the most hydrophobic and would
come down first in a batch pptn mode. This would give you an objective
reference.  Since most people run these columns from 1.8M sulfate to 100
mM phosphate buffer, no sulfate the variables would be temperature, pH and
sample composition (how much salt is in the sample), all of which would
affect the retention times and skew the results.

Just an idea so you can research the published lit and get a handle on a
broad question.

regards,

-- 
Amos Heckendorf 
(nestgrp@world.std.com) 
Tel: 800-347-6378 or 508-481-6223; FAX: 508-485-5736.  
Value Added Resellers of HPLC columns and Pre-Cast Gels for Peptide and Protein Purification and Nucleic Acid Purification Kits.

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Hi,


I search informations about ESTERASE ACTIVITY after gama irradiations.

-- 
Paris

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In article <3m3eof$l8t@detroit.freenet.org>,
Jay Kulkarni <ag457@detroit.freenet.org> wrote:
>
>Hi!!
>I am looking for bcl-2 antibody which will react with chicken bcl-2,
>does anyone have it? if so would you please let the the source?
>you help will be appreciated and ackowledged.
>thanx for you time.
>jay

Try Don Ewert at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia.


Stacy




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Joe...do you have the experimental details of the two failed attempts?
It would be interesting to see what kind of solvent/buffer system they both used?

Whenever I have a troublesome sample I try

a) dissolve sample in water or water/acetonitrile (as little ACN as possible!)
b) apply sample to a C18 disposable cartridge
c) wash C18 with copious amounts of water using compressed air to remove water
d) elute with neat formic acid
e) cross fingers and shoot sample

You might also want to try a MALDI MS run as MALDI is a lot more 
tolerant to small amounts of contaminants than ESMS is. 



Good Luck

Lorne Taylor
Protein Analysis Lab
University of Waterloo



In article <Pine.A32.3.91.950406113620.64725A-100000@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, jbooth@ACS.UCALGARY.CA (Joseph Booth) writes:
> Hi,
> 
> 	I have purified a protein using anion exchange chromatography 
> followed by RP-HPLC on a C18 column with an acetonitrile/water gradient 
> (both containing 0.1% TFA). Re-running aliquots of my active fractions 
> on the C18 column gives a peak with the same elution time confirming the 
> presence of my protein.
> 	 My problem arises when analyzing the protein by 
> electrospray mass spectrometry. The protein has a predicted mass of 
> about 6.5 kD and is quite acidic with a pI of about 4.0. I have sent 
> samples (200-400 pmoles) of the protein to two different institutions for 
> analysis and in both cases they were unable to obtain a signal in either 
> positive or negative ion modes. It was suggested that residual TFA 
> remaining after lyophilization might be causing interference but 
> desalting the samples (PD-10 columns) against water prior to 
> lyophilization did not seem to help.
> 	Any suggestions as to what might be causing this problem and 
> possible solutions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> 

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Hi!!
I am looking for bcl-2 antibody which will react with chicken bcl-2,
does anyone have it? if so would you please let the the source?
you help will be appreciated and ackowledged.
thanx for you time.
jay

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If you need photocrosslinking, Pierce Chemical has a
large selection of these. Also other xlinkers
that would do what you need. E-mail: PierceChem@mcimail.com

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Hi,

I am posting this for a friend. Please post the responses here or mail to

vaishali@jove.acs.unt.edu

Many research papers on signal transduction, especially, second
messengers, have one experiment when trying to elucidate activation of
second messenger in response to any growth factor: Inhibition of protein
synthesis with the help of general transcrition inhibitor like
actinomycin D. The results of these experiments say that active protein
synthesis is necessary for mediating second messenger response.
 
The question is, what can one directly tell from this experiment? If it is
second messenger response, how can we say that it requires protein synthesis as
actinomycin will inhibit synthesis of all proteins ?

Thanks

Rajesh 

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Dear netter

Is there a good method to determin the amount of protein in a insoluble 
fraction ?
Thanks for your help.

I.Huang
gr8bn@cc.usu.edu

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Lorne Taylor (ltaylor@peptidarus.UWaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Joe...do you have the experimental details of the two failed attempts?
: It would be interesting to see what kind of solvent/buffer system they both used?

: Whenever I have a troublesome sample I try

: a) dissolve sample in water or water/acetonitrile (as little ACN as possible!)
: b) apply sample to a C18 disposable cartridge
: c) wash C18 with copious amounts of water using compressed air to remove water
: d) elute with neat formic acid
: e) cross fingers and shoot sample

: You might also want to try a MALDI MS run as MALDI is a lot more 
: tolerant to small amounts of contaminants than ESMS is. 



: Good Luck

: Lorne Taylor
: Protein Analysis Lab
: University of Waterloo



: In article <Pine.A32.3.91.950406113620.64725A-100000@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, jbooth@ACS.UCALGARY.CA (Joseph Booth) writes:
: > Hi,
: > 
: > 	I have purified a protein using anion exchange chromatography 
: > followed by RP-HPLC on a C18 column with an acetonitrile/water gradient 
: > (both containing 0.1% TFA). Re-running aliquots of my active fractions 
: > on the C18 column gives a peak with the same elution time confirming the 
: > presence of my protein.
: > 	 My problem arises when analyzing the protein by 
: > electrospray mass spectrometry. The protein has a predicted mass of 
: > about 6.5 kD and is quite acidic with a pI of about 4.0. I have sent 
: > samples (200-400 pmoles) of the protein to two different institutions for 
: > analysis and in both cases they were unable to obtain a signal in either 
: > positive or negative ion modes. It was suggested that residual TFA 
: > remaining after lyophilization might be causing interference but 
: > desalting the samples (PD-10 columns) against water prior to 
: > lyophilization did not seem to help.
: > 	Any suggestions as to what might be causing this problem and 
: > possible solutions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
: > 
: > Joe
: > 
: > 

I would have to agree with Lorne.  Acidic proteins usually aggregate in 
solution because of traces of divalent cations.  The electrospray process 
aggrevates this situation because of the drying of the droplets in the 
ion source interface region.  MALDI would probably work better for this 
type of material.

Ron Beavis
Protein Chemistry Laboratory
The Skirball Institute of Biomolecular Medicine
New York University Medical Center
email:  beavis@is.nyu.edu
home page:  http://128.122.10.3/

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In article <3m2lpr$6ie@newshound.uidaho.edu> magn8831@uidaho.edu writes:
>
>I am working with an extracellular enzyme secreted by a Streptomyces spp.
>My organism produces a fair amount of pigments, and these interfere
>with purification and analysis. I've tried PVPP, Biopol, polyethylene-
>imine etc. with not much luck to separate the pigments from the 
>enzyme. Standard purification procedures (MonoQ, Rotofor etc.) purify
>activity somewhat, but the protein still has gunk on it. I don't want 
>to have to resort to gunk-out carb cleaner; any tips, advice, methods
>would be greatly appreciated. Please respond to above address.
>
>Thanx
>T. S. Magnuson
>

The best way to deal with the problem is to find a medium in which 
your Streptomyces does not produce pigments. The pigments are usually
produced in the stationary phase. If your protein is also synthesized in the 
exponential growth phase you have separated your protein from the pigments.
Maybe a cation exchanger or a hydrophobic interaction column binds 
the pigments mores stronger than your protein.
Did you also try to dialyze against a high salt buffer ?


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I had this problem several years ago with S & S's 0.1 µ nitrocellulose. 
The company sales rep refused to admit that it could happen but the problem
was quite reproducible.  The solution: don't use the very small pore size
membrane.  Use at least the 22 µ membranes and you should have no problem.

Steve Broyles
Purdue University

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I was wondering if there is anyone who is familiar with hydrolysis by
glycosidases of glycosyl fluorides having the wrong anomeric
configuration(Hehre mechanism).  With this type of mechanism, hydrolysis is
substrate activated and two molecules of substrate must bind in the active
site first.  Plots of RAte vs substrate concentration and 1/rate vs
1/substrate give upwardly concave curves.  

What I would like to know is what is the equation to describe these types
of kinetics and if possible, how is it derived.  A reference would be very
helpful also. Please mail me directly.
Thanks 
Howard
howie@unixg.ubc.ca

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Hi,

I am posting this for a friend. Please post the responses here or mail to

vaishali@jove.acs.unt.edu

Many research papers on signal transduction, especially, second
messengers, have one experiment when trying to elucidate activation of
second messenger in response to any growth factor: Inhibition of protein
synthesis with the help of general transcrition inhibitor like
actinomycin D. The results of these experiments say that active protein
synthesis is necessary for mediating second messenger response.

The question is, what can one directly tell from this experiment? If it is
second messenger response, how can we say that it requires protein synthesis as
actinomycin will inhibit synthesis of all proteins ?

Thanks

Rajesh


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In the sample that i am applying to SDSPAGE i have about 0.2% triton 
before conc. I wondered wether higher % of triton will disturb migration 
of my protein ......

--
Dr. Yossef Av-Gay
Microbiology Dept.
U.B.C Vancouver B.C. Canada

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I was wondering, after having read the proceedings of the 1992 
conference on activity and health, what new developments have been 
reported in the lit and elsewhere regarding production/expression of 
heat shock proteins in cardiac muscle?  I'm new to the topic, but very 
interested, as I am a pre-med student with ACE/ACSM certification as a 
trainer and a neurobiology concentration in my major.  So I am very 
curious as to the crossings over between brain functions under stress 
and chaperone proteins, and their relation to lipid peroxidation (as an 
indicator of potential peroxidation, not as a directly related 
phenomenon) during intense aerobic exercise.  Thanks!

the artiste formerly known as jabbo [] "Anyone who cannot explain his
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editor of the sci.med.nutrition FAQ []  is a charlatan."             
http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/ryl []                Jacob Berzelius



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johnk@spasm.niddk.nih.gov (John Kuszewski) writes:
>Can anyone tell me the standard backbone phi and 
>psi angles for a 3-10 helix?

The mean observed phi,psi for 3-10 helices are -71,-18 deg.
according to Barlow etal., 1988.

It is -49,-26 deg. according to Perutz, 1951;
It is -74, 4 deg. according to Pauling etal.,1951;

Hope this helps.

--GV

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: abonvin@volta.csb.yale.edu ("Alexandre Bonvin")
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Dear netters,

Xplor has now a www home page featuring the X-PLOR manual and tutorial  
files
on-line. The address is:

    http://pauli.csb.yale.edu


Alexandre

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| New Haven CT 06511, USA        |                                       |
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From: abonvin@volta.csb.yale.edu ("Alexandre Bonvin")
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Dear netters,

Xplor has now a www home page featuring the X-PLOR manual and tutorial  
files on-line. The official address is:

    http://xplor.csb.yale.edu

(pauli in the previous posting should work as well)

Alexandre

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric)
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Subject: Re: protein amount determination
Date: 10 Apr 1995 17:18:47 GMT
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berges@BNLUX1.BNL.GOV (John Berges) writes:

>The BCA assay is badly messed up by any reducing compound such as 
>DTT and cysteine.  The Bradford is not compatible with strong alkalis
>or detergents.  I have extraction buffers with both...and they have enough
>NADH in them that abs(280) measurements are also tenuous.  I'd be 
>happy to hear suggestions to overcome the problem.  I currently TCA
>precipitate sample, then resulspend in a satisfactory buffer.  There is a
>slight loss of sample, and the procedure is tedious.
==========
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but if you add 0.0175% Sodium deoxycholate just
before doing the TCA ppt., protein recovery is maximized (though you're now
constrained to using the Lowry procedure I believe).
 
Since Na deoxycholate breaks down in water (I don't know to what), the most
convenient stock seems to be 1.75% NaDOC in DMSO with a 1:100 dilution into
whatever buffer is to be carried forth into TCA ppt. 

I concur on the hassel of doing a ppt. prior to doing the Lowry (or any
assay). 

-- 
Eric Larson                  | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
USDA/Agronomy                | 190 PABL; 1201 W. Gregory; Urbana, IL 61801
elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
Fidonet: 1:233/4.1           | My opinions are my own, but correct :-) 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (larson eric)
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Subject: Re: protein amount determination
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bucc0003@gold.tc.umn.edu (Paul A Bucciaglia) writes:

>I use the BCA assay asay (Bicinchoninic acid/Cu), available as a kit from 
>Sigma (i don't have the original reference with me, write if you want 
>it).  It tolerates up to 1% SDS, so you can solubilize your insoluble 
>fraction in SDS and then determine protein conc.  Be sure to include your 
>solubilization buffer in the blank and your protein standards. Also be 
>sure the assay wil tolerate your particular solubilization components.

>PS--I have found this assay to give a good standard curve, but that it 
>gives a protein concentration of about 1/10 of the reading from a 
>Bradford assay.  Supposedly (and this is just hearsay) the BCA is more 
>accurate as it is much less sensitive to amino acid composition, so 
>perhaps this is the difference.  Any net comments?

>gr8bn@cc.usu.edu (I-Jen Huang) writes:

>>Dear netter

>>Is there a good method to determin the amount of protein in a insoluble 
>>fraction ?
============
 
The Lowry assay also works with 1% SDS present.  You might try a procedure
I am quite fond of:

Larson EM, BT Howlett, AT Jagendorf (1986) Artificial reductant enhancement
of the Lowry method for protein determination.  Anal Biochem 155: 243-248.
 
-- 
Eric Larson                  | University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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elarson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu     | Voice 217.244.3079  Fax 217.244.4419
Fidonet: 1:233/4.1           | My opinions are my own, but correct :-) 

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 09 23:00:00 1995
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From: berges@BNLUX1.BNL.GOV (John Berges)
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Subject: Re: protein amount determination
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On Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:54:11 -0700
 bucc0003@gold.tc.umn.edu (Paul A Bucciaglia) wrote:
>Subject: Re: protein amount determination

>I use the BCA assay asay (Bicinchoninic acid/Cu), available as a kit from 
>Sigma (i don't have the original reference with me, write if you want 
>it).  It tolerates up to 1% SDS, so you can solubilize your insoluble 
>fraction in SDS and then determine protein conc.  Be sure to include your 
>solubilization buffer in the blank and your protein standards. Also be 
>sure the assay wil tolerate your particular solubilization components.
>
>Good luck,
>paul bucciaglia
>
>PS--I have found this assay to give a good standard curve, but that it 
>gives a protein concentration of about 1/10 of the reading from a 
>Bradford assay.  Supposedly (and this is just hearsay) the BCA is more 
>accurate as it is much less sensitive to amino acid composition, so 
>perhaps this is the difference.  Any net comments?

I have pursued the issue of different protein assays giving different results
a bit.  The Bradford assay is more sensitive to arginine residues (better
dye binding than a typical peptide bond), while the BCA and other copper-
redox assays are very sensitive to tryptophan, tyrosine, etc.  "Accuracy"
is a tough one, because it depends on so many things.  See:

	Berges et al. 1993. A comparison of Lowry, Bradford and Smith
		protein assays using different protein standards and
		protein isolated from the marine diatom Thalassiosira
		pseudonana.  Marine Biology 115: 187-193

for a somewhat unsatisfying overview.

The BCA assay is badly messed up by any reducing compound such as 
DTT and cysteine.  The Bradford is not compatible with strong alkalis
or detergents.  I have extraction buffers with both...and they have enough
NADH in them that abs(280) measurements are also tenuous.  I'd be 
happy to hear suggestions to overcome the problem.  I currently TCA
precipitate sample, then resulspend in a satisfactory buffer.  There is a
slight loss of sample, and the procedure is tedious.


________________________________________________________________
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     _/    _/   _/      _/   _/     Oceanic and Atmospheric
    _/    _/   _/_/    _/   _/      Sciences Divison
   _/_/_/     _/ _/   _/   _/       Brookhaven National Lab
  _/     _/  _/   _/ _/   _/        Upton, NY 11973        
 _/     _/  _/    _/_/   _/         Phone: 516-282-4077
_/_/_/_/   _/      _/   _/_/_/_/    Email: berges@BNLUX1.BNL.GOV
________________________________________________________________
                              
 

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I use the BCA assay asay (Bicinchoninic acid/Cu), available as a kit from 
Sigma (i don't have the original reference with me, write if you want 
it).  It tolerates up to 1% SDS, so you can solubilize your insoluble 
fraction in SDS and then determine protein conc.  Be sure to include your 
solubilization buffer in the blank and your protein standards. Also be 
sure the assay wil tolerate your particular solubilization components.

Good luck,
paul bucciaglia


PS--I have found this assay to give a good standard curve, but that it 
gives a protein concentration of about 1/10 of the reading from a 
Bradford assay.  Supposedly (and this is just hearsay) the BCA is more 
accurate as it is much less sensitive to amino acid composition, so 
perhaps this is the difference.  Any net comments?


gr8bn@cc.usu.edu (I-Jen Huang) writes:

>Dear netter

>Is there a good method to determin the amount of protein in a insoluble 
>fraction ?
>Thanks for your help.

>I.Huang
>gr8bn@cc.usu.edu

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Nora Plesofsky-Vig (npv@MANI.CBS.UMN.EDU) wrote:
: I have a problem concerning the electrophoretic blotting of proteins  
: from a polyacrylamide gel to a small pore PVDF membrane, using a  
: Hoeffer Transfor apparatus, TE 50. I do the transfer in a 10 mM CAPS  
: transfer buffer, pH 11, 10% methanol, since I wish to sequence the  
: transferred peptides. I cool the buffer to 10-12oC, use a stir bar,  
: make every attempt to remove bubbles, but still I get protein bands  
: swirling within the membrane as though local ion currents have been  
: set up. This only occurs in certain (unpredictable) areas, but  
: obviously it would be desirable to avoid this. 


: Does anyone have any experience with this problem? Any likely  
: solutions?

: Thanks for any suggestions.

: Nora Plesofsky-Vig
: nora@biosci.cbs.umn.edu

Try a different batch of memberanes. Before this you could try changing the gel
compositions to a different percentage and see this makes any difference.


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