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  GOT YOUR MONEY BUT LOST YOUR MORAL !!!!!!!

  I most strongly urge you NOT to use serious and specific news-group lists
like this for such junk. No one wants to listen to it anyway !!!! If you
really had earned that amount of money, why would you want to tell the
whole world about it ??? I certainly hope everyone reading this is clever
enough not to spend money on such a silly thing. All intelligent people
know that you can never make something out of nothing - the same goes for
money.

-- DB

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From: "Achim Recktenwald, PhD" <achim@ibex.ca>
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Subject: Re: proteins -please help!
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paul wrote:
> 
> I am a college student and am writing a project on proteins. I need any
> material, preferably in text form, on proteins and what they are, what
> they do and how. Anything would be useful, but a general introduction
> into proteins would be best. I have looked, but could not find much
> material on the 'net, however my access time is severely limited. Site
> urls would be useful, a private e-mail with the text in it would be
> even better, as this would be quickest, and my access time is the
> important factor.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help
> 
> Paul
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> trystandragon@ukonline.co.uk
> -DFE-UDIC-


Go into any university library and you can bury yourself in books about
proteins.

Achim

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From: Mick Partis <mick.partis@hri.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Elution of protein from dry SDS_PAGE
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4104vsav@vm1.ulaval.ca (Savita Visal) wrote:
>Dear Friends,
>I want to sequence protein of interest. I have my protein of interest as a
>single band on SDS_PAGE. I've dried this gel. I would like sequence this 
>protein..the problem is elution from the SDS-PAGE. I have read so many
>protocols and at this stage I'm totally confused ..which protocol do I
>use? MW of my protein is 55kDa. Could anyone share their experiences and
>guide me to which is the best protocol I could use? 
>Thanks
>
>Savita
>4104vsav@vm1.ulaval.ca


I hope that you are not thinking of eluting the protein into solution as 
implied in your subject heading.  If so, you will lose protein during 
elution, and may get modification of your protein.  Much better to 
rehydrate your gel and blot your protein onto PDVF as described in Ron 
Tate's posting.  For transfer buffer, I use a CAPS buffer rather than 
Tris-glycine to avoid a mammoth glycine peak in the first cycle.

Mick 
-- 
mick.partis@hri.ac.uk         Horticulture Research International
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1957/



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From: ditlev@kemi.aau.dk (Ditlev Brodersen)
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Subject: Re: protein-bound Zn measurement needed
Date: 2 Oct 1996 16:53:00 +0100
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>Does anyone konw of a lab which can identify protein-bound metals using
>ug quantities of sample?
>
>====================================================
>*  John H. Collins, Ph.D.                          *
>*  Medical Biotechnology Center                    *
>*  University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute  *
>*  108 N. Greene Street                            *
>*  Baltimore, MD 21201-1503                        *
>*  USA                                             *
>*  e-mail: collins@umbi.umd.edu                    *
>====================================================

Why don't you somehow dissociate the metalion from the protein and run an
atom absorbance spectroscopy - they can determine metals down to ppm/ppb
which should suffice

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From: linda brooks <l.brooks@strath.ac.uk>
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Subject: Protein L
Date: 1 Oct 1996 17:09:47 GMT
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Hello,
I wish to use protein L to create an immunoaffinity column
for purification of recombinant antibody variable light chains -
does anyone know of a commercial supplier of protein L?

Thanks 
Linda



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From: zjons@vetbio.unizh.ch (Zophonias O. Jonsson)
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Subject: Re: protein-bound Zn measurement needed
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:08:59 +0200
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In article <52u34s$gvl@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, ditlev@kemi.aau.dk (Ditlev
Brodersen) wrote:

> >Does anyone konw of a lab which can identify protein-bound metals using
> >ug quantities of sample?
> >
> 
> Why don't you somehow dissociate the metalion from the protein and run an
> atom absorbance spectroscopy - they can determine metals down to ppm/ppb
> which should suffice

Why would you have to dissociate the metal from the protein for atomic
absorbtion?  There will probably not be very much left of the protein in
the flame or in the carbon arc anyway by the time you vaporise the metal.
Or am I missing something obvious?? As to the sensitivity I agree, if the
protein in question has reasonable affinity for the metal.  I actually
tried to detect Zn in this way once, but didn't find any, probably because
the protein didn't bind Zink. At least it was an easy experiment!

Zophonias

_____________________________________________________________________
Zophonias O. Jonsson
Institut fur Veterinarbiochemie               Tel: (41-1)-257-54-75
Universitat Zurich-Irchel                     Fax: (41-1)-362-05-01
Winterthurerstrasse 190
CH-8057 Zurich
Switzerland
_____________________________________________________________________

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Really? Then stay away from this newsgroup. You stupid jerk.

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From: JSUMNER@austen.oit.umass.edu (Jason C Sumner)
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I'm considering doing a research paper on the repairing ability of
chaperone melecules (and possibly how the chaperone molecules
find their own structures in the first place). Any interesting journal 
articles, web pages, information, etc would be greatly apprecialted.

Jason Sumner
jsumner@student.umass.edu


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Subject: Re[2]: protein-bound Zn measurement needed
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Why would the metal ions need to be removed from the protein sample? It
doesn't seem to me that inclusion of protein in a sample would
necessarily interfere with identification of metalic ligands. You should
be able to figure out what cations are required for enzyme activity, if
the protein in question is an enzyme, by treatment with a chelating
agent then adding back individual ionic species and seeing which ones
reactivate the zyme.

Robert Bilbrey
c478scb@semovm.semo.edu
Dept of Biology
Southeast Missouri State Umiversity

>>Does anyone konw of a lab which can identify protein-bound metals using
>>ug quantities of sample?
>>
>>====================================================
>>*  John H. Collins, Ph.D.                          *
>>*  Medical Biotechnology Center                    *
>>*  University of Maryland Biotechnology Institute  *
>>*  108 N. Greene Street                            *
>>*  Baltimore, MD 21201-1503                        *
>>*  USA                                             *
>>*  e-mail: collins@umbi.umd.edu                    *
>>====================================================
>
>Why don't you somehow dissociate the metalion from the protein and run an
>atom absorbance spectroscopy - they can determine metals down to ppm/ppb
>which should suffice
>
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>DK-8000 Aarhus C
>Denmark
>
>WWW:http://kaktus.kemi.aau.dk/~ditlev
>
>
>

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From: linda brooks <l.brooks@strath.ac.uk>
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Subject: Protein L
Date: 1 Oct 1996 17:09:19 GMT
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Hello,
I wish to use protein L to create an immunoaffinity column
for purification of recombinant antibody variable light chains -
does anyone know of a commercial supplier of protein L?

Thanks 
Linda



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Subject: Re: SDS-page
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>Jussi Kankare (Jussi.Kankare@csc.fi) wrote:
>> I'm trying to crystallize a protein and would therefore like
>> to have my sample as homogeneous as possible. However when the
>> purity of the sample is checked with SDS-page the gel shows a 
>> major and small minor band just beneath the major one. I have 
>> not purified the sample myself but the persons who have done 
>> the work claim that the sample is pure but the protein just has
>> the property that it shows two bands in SDS-page ?!? I would naturally
>> think that this means that the sample is NOT homogeneous. What could 
>> cause this sort behaviour of a protein or is there simply a need for
>> repurifying the protein.  


I observed an additional band on SDS-PAGs that resultet from boiling the
samples. The band did not appear when I simply incubated the sample for a long
time in the sample buffer at room temperature. 

-- 
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Matthias Dreyer                             ____________          
Department of Chemistry                     \          /
Calvin Lab                                   \        /
University of California                      \      /               
Berkeley, CA 94720-5230                        \    /
USA                                             \  /
e-mail: dreyer@lcbvax.cchem.berkeley.edu         \/
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From: Mick Partis <mick.partis@hri.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: chaperone molecules
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JSUMNER@austen.oit.umass.edu (Jason C Sumner) wrote:
>
>I'm considering doing a research paper on the repairing ability of
>chaperone melecules (and possibly how the chaperone molecules
>find their own structures in the first place). Any interesting journal 
>articles, web pages, information, etc would be greatly apprecialted.
>
>Jason Sumner
>jsumner@student.umass.edu
>

You should find lots of info and links on the chaperonin page

http://bioc09.uthscsa.edu/~seale/Chap/chap.html

Mick
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mick.partis@hri.ac.uk         Horticulture Research International
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/1957/



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From: whc@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (W.H. Colledge)
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Subject: Wanted:peptide biotinylation or fluorocinylation method
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 20:02:05 +0000
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Does anyone have a simple method for labelling peptides with biotin or
fluorocine? How can the labelled peptide be purified from the reaction
products?

-- 
Dr.W.H.Colledge
Physiological Laboratory
University of Cambridge
Cambridge CB2 3EG

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From: zhluo@SCRIPPS.EDU (Jean Luo)
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Subject: EGFR's intrinsic kinase activity and Serine/Threonine phosphorylation
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Hello, everybody,

Epidermal Growth Factor (EGF) and its receptor (EGFR) have been hot
research projects for years. Dr. Stanley Cohen from Vanderbilt Univ.
even got his Nobel prize on that. However, I could not even understand
some basic biochemical characteristics of EGFR by reading their papers.
I would appreciate any comments or inputs.

My questions are:

1) Is the intrinsic kinase activity of EGFR needed for ligand EGF
induced tyrosine kinase activity?

2) If yes, is serine / threonine phosphorylation required for this
intrinsic kinase activity?

3) What are other structural motifs of the active EGFR cytoplasmic
domain (such as dimerization)?

4) EGFR cytoplasmic domain (EGFRc) expressed in insect cells is active.
However, bacterial expressed EGFRc (soluble) is inactive. What is mssing
in EGFRc expressed from bacteria?

Please email your suggestions / answers to zhluo@scripps.edu

Thanks!


Jean

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I need some help with this question I got from my biology professor:

  -   Why do ribosomes appear to be the first membrane bound organelle
that developed in procaryotic cells?

I don't quite know how to begin, but any help would be appreciated!!

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From: whc@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (W.H. Colledge)
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Subject: Cell marking
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Does anyone have a method for labelling (non-radioactive) or marking
non-dividing cells that will persists for the lifetime of the cell?

-- 
Dr.W.H.Colledge
Physiological Laboratory
University of Cambridge
Cambridge CB2 3EG

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Subject: Please help!
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Hi


Does anyone know of the existance of a mammalian REVERSIBLE translation
elongation inhibitor?


Thanks in advance,
Lee Kempster
Imperial College.


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From: dunnsm@bbsrc.ac.uk (steve dunn)
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Subject: selenomethionine media...
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Dear Netters,
I'm looking to produce a selenomethionine derivative of an over-expressed
recombinant protein from an E.coli met auxotroph for MAD phasing
(crystals!!). I understand that I grow the cells in liquid minimal
media (M9 glucose) + amino acids + vits. I don't however, have a specific
recipe that informs me as to the concentrations of the added amino acids
(incuding selenomet.) and vitamins to include in the media.
Can anybody help??
Many thanks in advance,
Steve
dunnsm@bbsrc.ac.uk or please post replies to board.

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I'm trying to cleave a peptide from its linker with CNBr and the linker
has methionine residue in its c-terminal. According my books such as
Guide to protein purification and Short protocols in molecular biology,
the reaction is carried in 70% formic acid and excess CNBr. Where can I
get detailed information about the reaction such as a paper, book or WWW
site etc. When I observed SDS-PAGE of sample after overnight incubation,
I came to see that only 50 % of all peptides are cleaved by now.

my protein is as follows

	  
Linker-Met-Peptide
	  ^
	  cleave here	
Thanks.

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From: sternber@europa.lif.icnet.uk (Michael Sternberg)
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From rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk Thu Oct  3 17:45:16 1996
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:42:26 +0100
From: "Ross D. King" <rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk>
To: m.sternberg@icrf.icnet.uk
Subject: DSC 

DSC Protein Secondary Structure Prediction

I am pleased to announce the opening of a new web site for 
the prediction of protein secondary structure.
Two prediction modes are available:

1) Given a single sequence.  A multiple sequence alignmentt 
will be formed and DSC used to predict secondary structure.
http://www.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/dsc_form_align.html

2) Given a  multiple sequence alignmnet.  DSC will 
use this alignment to predict secondary structure.
http://www.icnet.uk/bmm/dsc/dsc_read_align.html

The advantages of DSC are:
1) It is very accurate.  DSC has a prediction accuracy of 70.1% on a 
standard set of 126 proteins.  This was not significantly different 
from PHD, a popular prediction method.  For medium length sequences 
DSC was more accurate than PHD, and combining DSC and PHD produced 
a prediction method more accurate than either.

2) It is free.  There is no charge for using DSC.  

3) The C source code is available.  This would allow you 
to run DSC on your own system if you had confidential sequences.
ftp://ftp.icnet.uk/icrf-public/bmm/king/dsc/dsc.tar.z

DSC is based on simple linear statistics.  A paper on the
scientific basis of DSC will appear in Protein Science:
"Identification and Application of the Concepts Important for
Accurate and Reliable Protein Secondary Structure Prediction"
by Ross D. King & Michael J.E. Sternberg


Ross D. King
Biomolecular Modelling Laboratory
Imperial Cancer Research Fund
Lincoln's Inn Fields, P. O. Box 123,
London, WC2A 3PX, U.K.
Tel: +44 171 269 3565, Fax: +44 171 269 3479,
rd_king@icrf.icnet.uk
m.sternberg@icrf.icnet.uk (contact until 25 Oct 96)


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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Oct 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: gardner@bloch.med.utoronto.ca (Kevin Gardner)
Subject: Re: protein-bound Zn measurement needed
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Zophonias O. Jonsson (zjons@vetbio.unizh.ch) wrote:
: In article <52u34s$gvl@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, ditlev@kemi.aau.dk (Ditlev
: Brodersen) wrote:

: > >Does anyone konw of a lab which can identify protein-bound metals using
: > >ug quantities of sample?
: > >
: > 
: > Why don't you somehow dissociate the metalion from the protein and run an
: > atom absorbance spectroscopy - they can determine metals down to ppm/ppb
: > which should suffice

: Why would you have to dissociate the metal from the protein for atomic
: absorbtion?  There will probably not be very much left of the protein in
: the flame or in the carbon arc anyway by the time you vaporise the metal.
: Or am I missing something obvious?? As to the sensitivity I agree, if the
: protein in question has reasonable affinity for the metal.  I actually
: tried to detect Zn in this way once, but didn't find any, probably because
: the protein didn't bind Zink. At least it was an easy experiment!

Correct on the point of not needing to dissociate the metal away from
the protein coordinating it prior to use in flame atomic absorption
spectroscopy.  As to the sensitivity, machines are fairly(?) routinely
available to detect uM concentrations of zinc from ca. 500uL - 1mL
of sample (e.g. nanomoles of Zn required).  

Hats off to the mighty d10 crew,
Kevin

--
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Kevin Gardner                               gardner@bloch.med.utoronto.ca
University of Toronto             http://abragam.med.utoronto.ca/~gardner
Dept. of Medical Genetics & Microbiology   phone: 416-978-0642/FAX: -6885

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From: Keld Sorensen <KeldS@uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: Wanted:peptide biotinylation or fluorocinylation method
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 09:54:21 +0000
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[snip Q about peptide biotinylation and fluorescent labeling with fluorescein]
Peptides can be labeled through amino groups (NH2)
with NHS-Biotin and NHS-Fluorescein or if 
water solubility is an issue use:
Sulfo-NHS-Biotin or Sulfo-NHS-Flurorescein.

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From: siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu (Arioch)
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Subject: de-salting prior to SDS-PAGE loading...
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hey all,
           anybody know of a good protocol to remove the salt from samples
before they are loaded on to SDS-PAGEs??  i have found out that hi salt
tends to distort the way the bands run on the gel (screwing up the
electrical field and therefore affecting protein mobility).  i found this
one protocol that tells you to add 0.15% deoxycholic acid, incubate for 10
min followed by addition of TCA ---> spin for about 15 min at 3000g --->
decant all the TCA and resuspend pellet (containing precipitated protein
with presumably no salt).  this however has not been too successful (for
me) and still causes distortion of my gel bands (much annoyance).  anybody
know of any modicfications to this protocol or other protocols that
work??  thanks much...

-- 
Arioch, Lord of Chaos
siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu
graduate student; dept of biochemistry and molecular genetics
university of alabama at birmingham

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996
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From: David Weber <david.weber@worldnet.att.net>
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linda brooks wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I wish to use protein L to create an immunoaffinity column
> for purification of recombinant antibody variable light chains -
> does anyone know of a commercial supplier of protein L?
> 
> Thanks
> Linda

What's protein L? Where does it come from and what is its affinity?

Thanks,

David

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From: zjons@vetbio.unizh.ch (Zophonias O. Jonsson)
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Subject: Re: protein-bound Zn measurement needed
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In article <DyqGxu.CGy@utcc.utoronto.ca>, gardner@bloch.med.utoronto.ca
(Kevin Gardner) wrote:

>  As to the sensitivity, machines are fairly(?) routinely
> available to detect uM concentrations of zinc from ca. 500uL - 1mL
> of sample (e.g. nanomoles of Zn required).  

That's why an electrothermal atomizer would be more practical, one can use
sample volumes of less than a uL up to about 10 uL.  Using a laminar
burner would be an awful waste of material, since a large part of it will
flow directly down the drain.  According to my old Skoog and West
analytical chemistry textbook the sensitivity is 0.000002 ppm (ug/mL) for
Zn about 20.000 times better than with flame (=> in the femtomole range). 
I don't think a machine like this will be hard to find either, they have
been around for a long time and many analytical chemistry labs will have
them.  The main problem is likely to be background Zn or lack of accuracy
in the measurements.

Zophonias

_____________________________________________________________________
Zophonias O. Jonsson
Institut fur Veterinarbiochemie               Tel: (41-1)-257-54-75
Universitat Zurich-Irchel                     Fax: (41-1)-362-05-01
Winterthurerstrasse 190
CH-8057 Zurich
Switzerland
_____________________________________________________________________

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 04 23:00:00 1996
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From: mthorste@vt.edu (mthorste)
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Subject: ISO:Anti-oxidase antibodies
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Hi Protein Chemists in Netland,

I am trying to characterize terminal (aa3, d, and o) oxidases in membrane
preparations of nitrogen fixing cyanobacteria.  Are there vendors who specialize
in these?  No luck with the common vendors.  Source is not critical as terminal 
oxidase Ab have a tendency to cross-react among species.  Any investigators 
out there working with these ??
Please help if you can and thanks in advance.

Marc Thorsteinsson
Dept. of Biochemistry
VPI&SU
mthorste@vt.edu

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From: siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu (Arioch)
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Subject: IMPACT kit from new england biolabs...
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hey all,
        just saw this in the september 6th issue of cell.  this is a new
kit from NEB that claims that you can get pure NATIVE protein (no fusions)
in "one" step.  basically they use proteins called inteins that are fused
to YPOI.  this undergoes directed cleavage when you add DTT (cleave a S-S
bond somewhere right before the fused region) and you get native protein
with no fusion domain to it.  anybody try this and if so, what is the
yield like??  how good is this system?  seems like a cool idea, but as
alwayz with any kit, i'm sceptical...any info on this would be
apprciated...thanx much...

-- 
Arioch, Lord of Chaos
siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu
graduate student; dept of biochemistry and molecular genetics
university of alabama at birmingham

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Oct 05 23:00:00 1996
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From: Louis Geller <bbbbd@sprynet.com>
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Subject: How much Crypto to grow?
Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 09:52:06 -0700
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Please disregard the prior posting "Required Culture volume".

My colleague needs to know what volume of Cryptococcus neoformans to
grow, in order to partially isolate an enzyme, and run enzyme
activities.  The protein is not particularly abundant, and the assay is
fairly sensitive.


Thank you very much for your help,
Louis Geller...

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From: krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de (Cornelius Krasel)
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Subject: Re: Protein Viewer
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BLDUNCCH (blduncch@aol.com) wrote:
> Can any one tell me how to obtain a 3D protein viewer to view Brookhaven
> PD files?  I want to be able to color the aa residues that I select.

Look for Rasmol, available for Macs, Windows and Unix (X).

--Cornelius.

-- 
/* Cornelius Krasel, U Wuerzburg, Dept. of Pharmacology, Versbacher Str. 9 */
/* D-97078 Wuerzburg, Germany   email: phak004@rzbox.uni-wuerzburg.de  SP3 */
/* "Science is the game we play with God to find out what His rules are."  */

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Oct 05 23:00:00 1996
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From: pwang@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU (pinger wang)
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Subject: My protein is an RNase or contaminated with RNase?
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Dear Netters,

	I am working on a ribosome-inactivating protein which has been 
already demonstrated to has a specific N-glycosidase activity. 
Recently, I found that this protein can also degrade RNA non-
specifcally. RNase activity gel analysis of this protein sample with 
yeast RNA as substrate showed that this protein has week RNase 
activity and no other RNase activity was observed in the gel. My 
question is that the evidence of RNase activity gel is good enough 
to exculde other RNase contamination? Are there any other good way
to discriminate them?

Thanks for help

Pinger

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Can any one tell me how to obtain a 3D protein viewer to view Brookhaven
PD files?  I want to be able to color the aa residues that I select.

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In article (Dans l'article)
<4104vsav-3009962009010001@mac118.envir.ulaval.ca>, 4104vsav@vm1.ulaval.ca
(Savita Visal) wrote (écrivait) :

> Dear Friends,
> I want to sequence protein of interest. I have my protein of interest as a
> single band on SDS_PAGE. I've dried this gel. I would like sequence this 
> protein..the problem is elution from the SDS-PAGE. I have read so many
> protocols and at this stage I'm totally confused ..which protocol do I
> use? MW of my protein is 55kDa. Could anyone share their experiences and
> guide me to which is the best protocol I could use? 
> Thanks
> 
> Savita
> 4104vsav@vm1.ulaval.ca
First of all, you must humidify the gel. To do this step it will be better
to use the SDS-PAGE buffer. Then, to elute the protein, transfer to
hydroxyapatit gel is an efficient procedure; hydroxyapatit is a calcium
phosphate crystal that is used as chromatography gel (Sigma)  . To realize
this step, you must use SDS-PAGE procedure, but on a tube. Fill the third
of it with SDS-PAGE gel, then add 1 ml of hydroxyapatit that was
previously washed by SDS-PAGE buffer, and finally cut the gel containing
your protein into small pieces (2 millimetres sided) and load them onto
hydroxyapatit. Then, run SDS_PAGE (at the same current intensity that your
initial SDS-PAGE). At the end of elution, recuperate the hydroxyapatit
(take care, hydroxyapatit is fragile), load it on a small column,taking
care not to dry it;  and elute the protein using 2ml of a 0,5M sodium
phosphate pH:6.8, 0,1 %SDS, 1mM DTT buffer. If you want to eliminate the
0.5M sodium phosphate, you can filtrate your fraction upon suitable
menbrane but keep the presence of SDS and DTT.

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In article <siyer-0510961822540001@bmg146.cmc.uab.edu>, Arioch
<siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu> writes
>hey all,
>        just saw this in the september 6th issue of cell.  this is a new
>kit from NEB that claims that you can get pure NATIVE protein (no fusions)
>in "one" step.  basically they use proteins called inteins that are fused
>to YPOI.  this undergoes directed cleavage when you add DTT (cleave a S-S
>bond somewhere right before the fused region) and you get native protein
>with no fusion domain to it.  anybody try this and if so, what is the
>yield like??  how good is this system?  seems like a cool idea, but as
>alwayz with any kit, i'm sceptical...any info on this would be
>apprciated...thanx much...

They are using a modified intein and from data I saw presented at a
conference a few weeks back it is a very promising system. My only
queries are:
1.      Is if the affinity column is reusable?
2.      How expensive is the affinity column 'cos it's OK purifying
proteins on a shake flask scale but I need to work on a much larger
scale.

Duncan   

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Duncan Clark
DNAmp Ltd.
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Subject: NAOMI - Important messages
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NAOMI - Important messages to all users - please read.
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**** The NAOMI anonymous FTP server is now back up again after some
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**** I've taken this opportunity to make available the Version 3.0
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: Alan Schoenfeld <aschoen@aecom.yu.edu>
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I want to check if the protein that I'm studying has any consensus
phosphorylation sites.  Does anybody know a way to to do this (either
over the web or by email)?
Alan





From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: tguina@WESLEYAN.EDU (Tina Guina)
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Subject: HELP! protein purification with gelatin/BSA
Date: 7 Oct 1996 08:29:52 -0700
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Dear colleagues!
I am trying to purify a small cationic and hydrophobic protein from 
bacterial culture supernatants. The culture medium contains insect a 
mammalian cell culture components including 50g/L of BSA and 0.4-0.5% 
GELATIN.
The protein of interest is very likely to be produced in small amounts 
and associating with one or more medium components of higher MWt.
When expressed in E. coli, this protein is soluble, but it partitions 
into the detergent phase after the triton X114 extraction.

I need to show the presence of this protein in culture supernantants. I 
have a good affinity purified antiserum against the protein.
My questions are:
1) what would be the best method to concentrate the protein?
(is ammonium sulfate good enough and would it precipitate the gelatin 
as well)
2) is there a simple, for the protein harmless way to get rid of gelatin 
without heating the solution?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Tina Guina

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From: dnennsti@ipb.uni-halle.de (Dirk Nennstiel)
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Subject: Re: Wanted:peptide biotinylation or fluorocinylation method
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W.H. Colledge <whc@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

> Does anyone have a simple method for labelling peptides with biotin or
> fluorocine? How can the labelled peptide be purified from the reaction
> products?

For both topics I use the products from Pierce (the NHS coupling to
primary amino groups). I purify the products by HPLC.

I hope this helps.

Dirk

-- 
Dirk Nennstiel
Inst. of plant biochemistry
Weinberg 3

06110 Halle/Saale
Germany

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: c07craig@SFSU.EDU (Craig)
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Subject: I would like to subscribe
Date: 7 Oct 1996 18:15:50 -0700
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Hello, I would like to subscribe to the proteins newsgroup.  Thanks

Craig



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!botany.uq.edu.au!J.Marcus
From: J.Marcus@botany.uq.edu.au ("Marcus, Dr J.")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: HELP! protein purification with gelatin/BSA
Date: 7 Oct 1996 15:44:12 -0700
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Hi Tina,

> I am trying to purify a small cationic and hydrophobic protein from 
> bacterial culture supernatants. The culture medium contains insect a 
> mammalian cell culture components including 50g/L of BSA and 0.4-0.5% 
> GELATIN.

Can you grow your bacteria in another medium?

> The protein of interest is very likely to be produced in small amounts 
> and associating with one or more medium components of higher MWt.
> When expressed in E. coli, this protein is soluble, but it partitions 
> into the detergent phase after the triton X114 extraction.

Cation exchange might be something to think about.  An 
anionic detergent would be compatible with cation-exchange 
step which would concentrate your protein.

> 
> I need to show the presence of this protein in culture supernantants. I 
> have a good affinity purified antiserum against the protein.

> My questions are:
> 1) what would be the best method to concentrate the protein?
> (is ammonium sulfate good enough and would it precipitate the gelatin 
> as well)

Have a go.  By using different concentrations of 
amm.sulfate you might get the gelatin to precipitate out 
leaving your protein behind.  Then with higher 
concentrations of amm.sulfate (say 90%) you might 
precipitate your protein.  However, even if your protein 
precipitates with the gelatin you may still be able to load 
it on a gel and do a western blot on it.  

> 2) is there a simple, for the protein harmless way to get rid of gelatin 
> without heating the solution?

Maybe size exclusion.

Hope that is helpful.

Regards,
John




_________________________________________________________
John Marcus            Marcus@tpp.uq.edu.au (Dr J.Marcus)
Cooperative Research Centre for Tropical Plant Pathology
5th Level John Hines Building
University of Queensland
St. Lucia, QLD 4072
AUSTRALIA

Fax: 61-7-3365-4771
Phone: 61-7-3365-4764

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: sedmondson@som.siu.edu (Stephen Edmondson)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: My protein is an RNase or contaminated with RNase?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 14:07:45 -0600
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Try HPLC to separate RNase activity from your protein. If your protein
lacks Cys, try adding mercaptoethanol to reduce disulfides of RNase. If
your protein is easily denatured, see if loss of RNase activity parallels
unfolding. RNase can have a very high specific activity so a very small
amount of contamination is quite possible.

In article <3257EB9F.796A@aesop.rutgers.edu>, pwang@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU wrote:
>         I am working on a ribosome-inactivating protein which has been 
> already demonstrated to has a specific N-glycosidase activity. 
> Recently, I found that this protein can also degrade RNA non-
> specifcally. RNase activity gel analysis of this protein sample with 
> yeast RNA as substrate showed that this protein has week RNase 
> activity and no other RNase activity was observed in the gel. My 
> question is that the evidence of RNase activity gel is good enough 
> to exculde other RNase contamination? Are there any other good way
> to discriminate them?

Steve Edmondson
sedmondson@som.siu.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: vachon@bio.grenet.fr (Gilles VACHON)
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Subject: Gel retardation: specific binding but no competition
Date: 7 Oct 1996 14:03:42 +0100
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Posted-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 96 15:03:34 +0100

Dear all,

we are working on a transcription factor that is known to bind to a
specific sequence called A and not to the mutated version calld B. When we
labele A and B and perform a bandshifht, A is retarded but not B.
BUT when we label A only and perform conpetition assays with cold A or cold
B we se no competition with either cold A or cold B.
This competition has been done by other groups but don't work in our hands.

Any suggestions why this isn't working?

Please forward your message to the list AND to me since I am not on this list.
Thanks

Dr. Gilles Vachon
Laboratoire de Genetique Moleculaire des Plantes
CERMO, 3eme etage
Universite J. Fourier, BP 53X
38041 GRENOBLE CEDEX
FRANCE
Tel: (33) 76 63 56 58
fax: (33) 76 51 43 36
e-mail: vachon@bio.grenet.fr



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: ditlev@kemi.aau.dk (Ditlev Brodersen)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: de-salting prior to SDS-PAGE loading...
Date: 7 Oct 1996 13:28:18 +0100
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>hey all,
>           anybody know of a good protocol to remove the salt from samples
>before they are loaded on to SDS-PAGEs??  i have found out that hi salt
>tends to distort the way the bands run on the gel (screwing up the
>electrical field and therefore affecting protein mobility).  i found this
>one protocol that tells you to add 0.15% deoxycholic acid, incubate for 10
>min followed by addition of TCA ---> spin for about 15 min at 3000g --->
>decant all the TCA and resuspend pellet (containing precipitated protein
>with presumably no salt).  this however has not been too successful (for
>me) and still causes distortion of my gel bands (much annoyance).  anybody
>know of any modicfications to this protocol or other protocols that
>work??  thanks much...
>
>--
>Arioch, Lord of Chaos
>siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu
>graduate student; dept of biochemistry and molecular genetics
>university of alabama at birmingham

Dear Arioch,

  Maybe the high ionic strength of TCA affects your SDS-PAGE run...Have you
tried precipitation by acetone instead?

  Add 33% acetone (1 acetone: 2 sample) and precipitate app. 10' at 0'C
  Spin 5' at 13 krpm.
  Resuspend pellet in whatever loading-buffer you use.

-- Ditlev

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Oct 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: l.kempster@ic.ac.uk (L.Kempster)
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Subject: Ub-conjugation
Date: 7 Oct 1996 14:53:35 +0100
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Hi.

Can anyone give me information on how mammalian ubiquitin molecules
conjugate with misfolded proteins retained in the ER membrane?



Is there a mammalian ubc6p homologue?


Thanks
Lee Kempster
Imperial College.


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From: eschiltz@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Emile Schiltz)
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Subject: Re: enzyme catalytic cycle movies?
Date: 8 Oct 1996 09:37:25 GMT
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Ira Ropson (iropson@bcmic.hmc.psu.edu) wrote:
: Hi folks,
: Does anyone know of any web sites where a "movie" of the catalytic
: action of an enzyme can be found? I have in mind a relativly simple
: active site picture showing just those residues involved in catalysis
: and the binding of substrate, and the substrate structure for the first
: frame, the change in conformation and structure going to the transition
: state, and then changing conformation and structure to the product.
: Such movies would be real useful for the course I'm teaching.

: Thanks,
: Ira Ropson
: iropson@bcmic.hmc.psu.edu
: If I had time for a fancy Sig file I problably wouldn't have a job.
Hi Ira,
try http://bio5.chemie.uni-freiburg.de, then the ak-movie
it shows an enzyme in motion, based on x-ray structures.
Regards
Mil Schiltz
--
Emile Schiltz <eschiltz@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>
           or <eschiltz@bio5.chemie.uni-freiburg.de>
Institute of Organic Chemistry and Biochemistry
Albertstrasse 21, D-79104 Freiburg, Germany
phone: +49 761 203 6090

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Oct 07 23:00:00 1996
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From: Simon Rabinovitch <sr4@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
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Subject: keep your shit off my newsgroup
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 02:09:12 -0700
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To: KIM NORDSTR™M <nordstrk@stud.sit.fi>

you fuck

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Oct 07 23:00:00 1996
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From: mdougherty@cc.colorado.edu
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Subject: Looking for Bob Pedersen
Date: 8 Oct 1996 14:53:18 GMT
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I am looking for a molecular biologist named Bob Pedersen; we used to 
work together at the Univ. of Massachusetts. Three years ago Bob was
working for a biotech firm in the Boston area, and I would guess that he
still is in the Boston area.
If anyone has any information on where Bob currently is working, I
certainly would appreciate knowing. Thanks.



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Oct 07 23:00:00 1996
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From: l.kempster@ic.ac.uk (L.Kempster)
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Subject: UDP-glucose:glycoprotein glucosyltransferase
Date: 8 Oct 1996 16:34:19 +0100
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Hi


Does anyone know whether a specific inhibitor of UDP-glucose:glycoprotein
glucosyltransferase exists?


Thanks
Lee Kempster
Imperial College.


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From: mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
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Subject: Evans & Sutherland dials on SGI???
Date: 8 Oct 1996 22:53:31 GMT
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We have several defunct Evans & Sutherland graphics workstations about
(PS300's, I think).  Each has a set of 8 dials on it that look quite a bit
like an older version of the dial boxes on our SGIs.  We have one SGI that
is currently sans dials and it would be great if we could scavenge one of
these old dial sets for it, rather than having to shell out $2000 for a
new set (with the buttons, which we basically don't use). 

So....

Anybody know if the old E&S dials can be used on an SGI?
Obviously the connector is different, but are the electronics compatible?

Thanks,

David Mathog
mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 

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In article <tV+KjUAGrNWyEw15@genesys.demon.co.uk>, "Dr. Duncan Clark"
<duncan@genesys.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <siyer-0510961822540001@bmg146.cmc.uab.edu>, Arioch
> <siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu> writes
> >hey all,
> >        just saw this in the september 6th issue of cell.  this is a new
> >kit from NEB that claims that you can get pure NATIVE protein (no fusions)
> >in "one" step.  basically they use proteins called inteins that are fused
> >to YPOI.  this undergoes directed cleavage when you add DTT (cleave a S-S
> >bond somewhere right before the fused region) and you get native protein
> >with no fusion domain to it.  anybody try this and if so, what is the
> >yield like??  how good is this system?  seems like a cool idea, but as
> >alwayz with any kit, i'm sceptical...any info on this would be
> >apprciated...thanx much...
> 
> They are using a modified intein and from data I saw presented at a
> conference a few weeks back it is a very promising system. My only
> queries are:
> 1.      Is if the affinity column is reusable?
> 2.      How expensive is the affinity column 'cos it's OK purifying
> proteins on a shake flask scale but I need to work on a much larger
> scale.
> 
> Duncan   

Duncan,
   I too think this is neato stuff, the acrobat file from NEB's web site
contains the full protocol and they say the chitin beads are reusable 5
times. Since we use Ni columns roughly 10X what we're supposed too, maybe
the same math holds (?). The chitin should be cheap, although I haven't
found a alt. supplier yet, perhaps one could use roughly ground
cockroaches or crabs...The manual does state the system doesn't work well
with eukaryotic proteins and that certain flanking AA's at the amino
terminus give premature cleavage.  I'm going to give it a try and will
post my results soon. The promise of one step purification/ C terminal tag
cleavage with one or no added amino acids is exciting, I'm going to give
it a whirl.

regards,

Ted Michelini
Institute of Molecular Biology
University of Oregon
tedm@darkwing.uoregon.edu

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I am looking for suggested methods of making rapid membrane preps from
various mammalian cells in culture.

The uses I have in mind for these preps are 1) receptor-binding studies
and 2) western blotting of membrane-associated proteins.  Most of the
lines I am using are adherent.  While I have experience with standard
protocols (modified Neville method, Prpic membrane prep, crude microsomal
preps) that work well for me when I start with tissues, my limited
experience with cell cultures is of low yield and probably cleaner preps
than I may need.  Searching the literature on adrenergic receptor studies
(which is what I'm doing the binding assays on) has produced the full
spectrum from hypotonic lysates without ANY fractionation to very pure
plasma membrane fractions produced by long protocols. 

Can anyone recommend a rapid, fairly simple membrane prep with decent
yield from cultures that they know to produce membranes suitable for
adrenergic (or other) binding studies? 
For the westerns, my need is merely for a prep with good yield, that is
clearly membrane-enriched, relative to total cell lysate.

Any tips will be appreciated.  Please email me directly or post here. 
Thanks.


jlcruise@stthomas.edu

Jennifer L. Cruise
Dept. Biology
Univ. St. Thomas
St. Paul, MN

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From: kevin.bailey@nottingham.ac.uk ()
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In article <01bbaf81$cb906320$ced6ebc2@guidok.telebyte.nl>, "Calimero"
<guidok@telebyte.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I used a computer program to find signal peptides in a putative protein and
> it gave the following results:
> 
> Maximum score 3.5 at residue 46
> 
> Sequence:  ACLFRAVADQVYG-DQDMHEVVRKHCMDYLMKNADYFSNYVTEDFTTYINRKRKNNCHGNHIEM
>             | (signal)    | (mature peptide)
>            33             46
> 
> Score 3.5 at residue 166
> 
> Sequence:  VGLGLPSFKPGFA-EQSLMKNAIKTSEESWIEQQMLEDKKRATDWEATNESIEEQVARESYLQW
>             | (signal)    | (mature peptide)
>           153             166
> 
> Does anybody know what these signals mean. 
> 
> 
> Guido
> 
> guidok@telebyte.nl

			Not sure if this is the answer you are after, but the signal part is
that which is transcribed at some point but which is removed before the
mature peptide is released. Hence the amino acid noted as the start of the
mature peptide/protein should be the one which would be residue 1 if the
protein were recovered naturally in it's mature "finished" form.

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From: "Frank R. Gorga" <gorga@next.duq.edu>
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Subject: Re: membrane preps from cultured mammalian cells
Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 20:21:24 -0700
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JLCruise wrote:
> 
> I am looking for suggested methods of making rapid membrane preps from
> various mammalian cells in culture.

For fibroblasts, try the method of Thom, et al. (1977) Biochem. J.
168:187. This method has worked well for me using a variety of mose and
rat fibroblast lines (3T3, F111, and others). I do nnot know if it will
work with other types of cells, but suspect that with small
modifications  it could be used on many adherant cell lines.

Hope this helps,

--- Frank Gorga

 

***********************************
Frank R. Gorga, Ph.D.
Dept. of Chemistry & Biochemistry
Duquesne University
Pittsburgh, PA 15282
412-396-5858 / 412-396-5683 (fax)
gorga@next.duq.edu

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From: Antonio Pregueiro <A.Pregueiro@shef.ac.uk>
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I would just like to ask for information about the regulatory mechanisms
of E.coli's NADH dehydrogenase gene. If anyone is working in that are or
simply with the FNR protein please share any info you possess.

Thank you!

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From: heihei@utu.fi (Heikki Heimo)
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Does anybody know the address/E-mail/fax details for a company called
ACL, situated in Isle of Man, UK. It is claimed to be manufacturer of
an affinity matrix called Mimetic Blue AP A6XL (Pozidis  & Bouriotis,
Bioseparation 5, 89-93, 1995). Or, alternatively, any other provider
of that  matrix or any other matrix intended for affinity purification
of alkaline phospatases?

Any clues welcome!
Heikki Heimo, M.Sc.
heihei@utu.fi
Department of Biochemistry
University ofTurku
Turku, Finland
Tel. +358 21 633 6847
Fax. +358 21 633 6860


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ignore

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In article <siyer-0510961811450001@bmg146.cmc.uab.edu>,
   siyer@bmg.bhs.uab.edu (Arioch) wrote:
>hey all,
>           anybody know of a good protocol to remove the salt from samples
>before they are loaded on to SDS-PAGEs??  i have found out that hi salt
>tends to distort the way the bands run on the gel (screwing up the
>electrical field and therefore affecting protein mobility).  i found this
>one protocol that tells you to add 0.15% deoxycholic acid, incubate for 10
>min followed by addition of TCA ---> spin for about 15 min at 3000g --->
>decant all the TCA and resuspend pellet (containing precipitated protein
>with presumably no salt).  this however has not been too successful (for
>me) and still causes distortion of my gel bands (much annoyance).  anybody
>know of any modicfications to this protocol or other protocols that
>work??  thanks much...
>You might try microfiltration or dialysis on a micro scale.
RMVF
	

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On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 10:03:31 -0500
Matthew Parker <parker@topaz.microbio.uab.edu> wrote:

>I would like to add azide to my protein preps, as we get a lot of
>breakdown when it is stored at 4 degrees. I was thinking of adding 1 or
>2 mM; is this enough to keep bacteria down? (I'd like to use as little
>as possible.)

In our labs we conventionally use sodium azide at 0.02% (w/v) which 
is a whisker over 3mM. As far as I know, that's a widespread 
proctice. However, I don't know if its the lowest limit for 
prevention of contamination.

____________________________________________________
Cormac Shaw, B.Sc.,
Dept. of Industrial Microbiology,
University College Dublin,
Belfield, Dublin 4,
Ireland.

e-mail: cshaw@acadamh.ucd.ie,
phone: +353 1 706 1796
fax: +353 1 706 1183.

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Tina,
     Since the compound maybe in the triton supernantant you may want to 
change the detergent.  A non polar detergent is the Emulphogen BC series.
Since the compound was cationic and hydrophobic you may also want to try 
a cationic detergent such as Cetylpyridinium Cl, Cetylpyridinium is 
available from Sigma (www.sigma.com).  Centrifuge the solution retaining 
the supernatant.  Follow up with size exclusion chromatography.  Another 
cationic ,or CTAB, CTab is a strong denaturant.  A text "Protein 
Purification Applications" Harris E.L.V, and Angal, S.(Oxford University 
Press, Oxford) 1990 pp 66-9,76-7 may help with the choice of detergent.
     Centrifuging the gelatin and decanting off the gelatin, is a way of 
removing the gelatin from the bacterial culture.


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From: mcmahan@oncology.wisc.edu (Scott McMahan)
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Subject: (Stept)avidin detection of non-biotinylated proteins
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:27:00 -0500
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   For some experiments I'm doing, I'm trying to detect biotinylated
proteins on a western blot.  But the (strept)avidins I've tried all also
detect the BSA (or lysozyme) I have in my reactions as a non-specific
protein.  This interaction only occurs with denatured proteins.  If I
dot-blot the native proteins, I see no signal.  Has anyone ever had a
similar problem, and if so, what worked to prevent it?

-- 
                                         Scott McMahan
                                         mcmahan@oncology.wisc.edu

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From: Florence Verrier <fverrier@pasteur.fr>
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Dear collueges,

I am trying to isolate eucaryotic cell membranes (e.g. BHK cells) before
extraction of membrane proteins. For that reason I would like to get a
convinient protocoll to isolate the whole membranes without other
intra-cellular proteins. I tried to find a good protocoll, but so far I
was not satisfied. So I wonder if there might be a colluege out there who
has done anything similar and would share his/her protocoll with me, or
would give me some references.
Thank you very much in advance for your help. Could you please send any
suggestions directly to my e-mailadress:
fverrier@pasteur.fr

Best regards, FV

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Tina,
     Since the compound maybe in the triton supernantant you may want to 
change the detergent.  A non polar detergent is the Emulphogen BC series.
Since the compound was cationic and hydrophobic you may also want to try 
a cationic detergent such as Cetylpyridinium Cl, Cetylpyridinium is 
available from Sigma (www.sigma.com).  Centrifuge the solution retaining 
the supernatant.  Follow up with size exclusion chromatography.  Another 
cationic ,or CTAB, CTab is a strong denaturant.  A text "Protein 
Purification Applications" Harris E.L.V, and Angal, S.(Oxford University 
Press, Oxford) 1990 pp 66-9,76-7 may help with the choice of detergent.
     Centrifuging the gelatin and decanting off the gelatin, is a way of 
removing the gelatin from the bacterial culture.


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Tina,
     Since the compound maybe binding in the triton supernatant you may 
want to change the detergent.  Since the compound was cationic you may 
want to try a cationic detergent such as cetylpyridinium Cl, 
cetylpyridinium is available fro Sigma(www.sigma.com).  Centrifuge the 
solution retaining the supernatant.  Follow up with size exclusion 
chromatography.  Another cationic detergent is MTAB, nTABs are strong 
denaturants, they are also available from Sigma.  A text "Protein 
Purification Applications" Harris, E.L.V. and Angal, S. (Oxford 
University Press, Oxford) 1990 pp66-9, 76-7 may help with the choice of 
detergents.
      Using the cell culture sample inoculate a cell growth media.  A 
growth media such as L-broth was successful in producing large amounts of 
e.coli cells in previous experiments (this may also help if the amount of 
protein is small).  L-broth contains 10g tryptone, 5g yeast extract, 5g 
NaCl.  Centrifuging the gelatin-bacterial culture and decanting off the 
gelatin is the easiest way of removing the media.  Further details 
pertaining to using the growth media are necessary such as temperature, 
incubation period and volume innoculate write to 
JeffAyres@worldnet.att.net


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From: Keld Sorensen <KeldS@uic.edu>
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[snip question on non specific interaction between
blotted proteins and avidin/streptavidin]

Non specific interactions are not that uncommon -
ways to solve:

Use high dilutions of the Avidin (requires a very
sensitive substrate)

Use deglycosylated avidin (has almost neutral pI)

Use additives to the diluent for the avidin such as
 - high salt (eg 100 mM phos plus 150 mM 
NaCl or even more salt)
 - Non-ionic detergents, such as Tween 20 at
0.05% or 0.1%

Also - double check that the problem is indeed 
where you think it is by simply doing the blot
and leave out key elements, such as the avidin etc.

Keld.

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Paul Sehnke wrote:
> 
> I am interested in a procedure to remove acetylation from N-terminal methionine
> s of plant proteins, so they can be sequenced.       Anyone know of references
> for such a procedure or info on the procedure itself?  I plan to blot the prote
> ins after  SDS -PAGE onto PVDF. Any help would be most appreciated.
>   Thank you for your time
>   Paul Sehnke (PCS@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu)

I don't know about procedures for removing acetyls (but then I haven't
looked for any), but I might ask one question.  Do you know for sure
they are blocked naturally?  Sometimes proteins being sequenced which
turn up blocked were blocked during preparation, probably during
electrophoresis.  Precautions can be taken to prevent this.
-- 
>>>>>>--------------------------->
Ron
Tate                                                                   
Lab of Franklin Leach
Dept. of Biochem. & Molecular Biology
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(405) 744-9326
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Oct 09 23:00:00 1996
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From: v161@REX.RE.UOKHSC.EDU ("v161@rex.uokhsc.edu")
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Subject: Immunize rabbits with Protein in SDS PAGE gel??
Date: 10 Oct 1996 08:01:52 -0700
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Hi, 
I am looking for information regarding immunization of
rabbits. I have read that you can immunize them with
protein in SDS PAGE gel ( lyophilized or crushed gel
slice, and resuspended in water). Does any one have any
experience in this matter? Will the SDS be toxic to the 
Rabbits? 
Thank you very much,
SPaul.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Oct 09 23:00:00 1996
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From: PCS@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU (Paul Sehnke)
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Subject: Unblocking acetylated amino termini of proteins
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I am interested in a procedure to remove acetylation from N-terminal methionine
s of plant proteins, so they can be sequenced.       Anyone know of references
for such a procedure or info on the procedure itself?  I plan to blot the prote
ins after  SDS -PAGE onto PVDF. Any help would be most appreciated.
  Thank you for your time
  Paul Sehnke (PCS@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu)

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From: f.s.wouters@chem.ruu.nl (fred wouters)
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Hi,

does anybody have experience with the CoA derivatization of fatty acids in
vitro? Is it just as simple as buying acyl CoA sythetase, add ATP and CoA
and incubate? Please give me some hints on how to do this.

Thanks in advance,

Fred

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Oops!  My unfamiliarity with posting messages to the newsgroup resulted 
in posting duplicate messages, also note the first two messages posted 
are not the correct procedures required, the third message is a possible 
scheme for purifying the protein and a simple technique for 
separating media from bacteria.


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Oct 09 23:00:00 1996
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Does anybody know the concentration of Thioglycolate to use in the running
buffer of an SDS-PAGE gel to prevent blockage of free N-termini by acrylamide
free radicals?


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At 08:01 AM 10/10/96 -0700, v161@rex.uokhsc.edu wrote:
>Hi, 
>I am looking for information regarding immunization of
>rabbits. I have read that you can immunize them with
>protein in SDS PAGE gel ( lyophilized or crushed gel
>slice, and resuspended in water). Does any one have any
>experience in this matter? Will the SDS be toxic to the 
>Rabbits? 
>Thank you very much,
>SPaul.
>
>

It is interesting to note that you don't consider acrylamide toxic! Although
I have heard that one can immunize with the acrylamide present, I would not
inject the bunny with acrylamide (call me sensisitive). Acrylamide, even
polymerized, is far more toxic than the little SDS that remains after
elution. Proteins (polypeptides) are easily eluted from SDS-PAG slices
either by electroelution or by passive diffusion. SDS containing sample does
not in any way reduce the antigenicity of the polypeptide. If anything, the
reduced and denatured state offers better antigen for raising polyclonals.



   
Dr. Hiranya Sankar Roychowdhury
Plant Genetic Engineering Lab.
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003
Ph. (505) 646-5785
hroychow@nmsu.edu


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From: "Achim Recktenwald, PhD" <achim@ibex.ca>
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Subject: Re: How much azide to use?
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Cormac Shaw wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 09 Oct 1996 10:03:31 -0500
> Matthew Parker <parker@topaz.microbio.uab.edu> wrote:
> 
> >I would like to add azide to my protein preps, as we get a lot of
> >breakdown when it is stored at 4 degrees. I was thinking of adding 1 or
> >2 mM; is this enough to keep bacteria down? (I'd like to use as little
> >as possible.)
> 
> In our labs we conventionally use sodium azide at 0.02% (w/v) which
> is a whisker over 3mM. As far as I know, that's a widespread
> proctice. However, I don't know if its the lowest limit for
> prevention of contamination.
> 


Be careful and test it first with your protein/enzyme; not all enzymes
like it.

Achim

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On 8 Oct 1996 22:53:31 GMT, mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu wrote:
->We have several defunct Evans & Sutherland graphics workstations
about
->(PS300's, I think).  Each has a set of 8 dials on it that look quite
a bit
->like an older version of the dial boxes on our SGIs.  We have one
SGI that
->is currently sans dials and it would be great if we could scavenge
one of
->these old dial sets for it, rather than having to shell out $2000
for a
->new set (with the buttons, which we basically don't use). 
....
->Anybody know if the old E&S dials can be used on an SGI?
.......->David Mathog
->mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu
->Manager, sequence analysis facility, biology division, Caltech 
  We also have a set of dials from a defunct E&S and an SGI without
dials and would like to adapt them if possible.
  In addition we have a Tektronix liquid crystal shutter stereo
adapter from the E&S system we would like to adapt to use instead of
crystal eyes.  Has anyone tried this on and SGI?
Thanks,
Roger Isaacson        risaacson@ucsd.edu
UCSD Physics Dept     PH 619-534-2505
9500 GILMAN DRIVE     FAX 619-822-0007
LA JOLLA CA 92093-0319


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From: wellsg@mail.med.upenn.edu (Gregg B Wells)
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Has anyone done much with the production of non-immunoglobulin proteins
from myeloma cell lines? Are protein expression vectors available with
immunoglobulin signal sequences or immunoglobulin promoters?  I think that
myeloma cell lines would be excellent producers for heterologous protein
expression, but I could find very little literature other than for 
immunoglobulin-type proteins. 

Thanks for insights on this topic.

Gregg Wells
Department of Pathology
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
USA
email:  wellsg@mail.med.upenn.edu


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From: Toumy Guettouche <tguettou@newssun>
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On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Filippo Bicocco wrote:

> I'm a Bio-chem. undergrad. student @ St. Mary's Uni. @ San Antonio, TX.
> USA. And I turn to the news group in hopes to recieve some help for my
> seminar that is due the 11th of November. The topic of the seminar is:
> 
> Antibody production by B lymphocytes. The distribution and functions of
> isotopes.
> 
> If you have any info. that might/could/is helpful, I'll greatly appre.
> your help. If you know of a "site", literature, or if you wish to
> share your knowledge, please email me @:
> 
> flip@world-net.net
> 
> Thank you very much...
> 
> Filippo B.
> 
> 
Hi,

try bionet.immunology, Textbooks: Janeway/Travers:Immunobiology,Garland 
Publ.; Abbas/Lichtman/Pober, Cellular and Molecular Immunology, Saunders; or 
best of all, a library.
BTW you probably mean the function of isotypes (IgG,M,A.D,E), not 
isotopes (radioactive substances)?!

Hope that helps

Toumy


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From: Louis Geller <bbbbd@sprynet.com>
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Subject: Re: Student needs help.
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:35:03 -0700
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Filippo,
	Try the Antibody Resource Page.  Here is the URL: 
http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/Faculty/goodman/antibody.html/abpage.html

	Try a search of Altavista, or Yahoo.  These are good search engines.
I hope this helps.  

Louis Geller...

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From: Filippo Bicocco <flip@world-net.net>
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Subject: Student needs help (correction)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 23:15:53 -0500
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Errr.....sorry about my mistake.
In my previews message I wrote:

"isotopes"

and it should be:

"isotypes"

Sorry about that....but writing a note at 3:30 in the morning isn't
easy for me....


Thanks once more...

Filippo.

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From: mcmahan@oncology.wisc.edu (Scott McMahan)
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Subject: Re: (Stept)avidin detection of non-biotinylated proteins
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In article <325CC1DE.7313@uic.edu>, Keld Sorensen <KeldS@uic.edu> wrote:

> Non specific interactions are not that uncommon -
> ways to solve:
> 
> Use high dilutions of the Avidin (requires a very
> sensitive substrate)

I'm using a 1:10,000, is that high enough?

> 
> Use deglycosylated avidin (has almost neutral pI)

Tried that


> 
> Use additives to the diluent for the avidin such as
>  - high salt (eg 100 mM phos plus 150 mM 
> NaCl or even more salt)

I've titrated the salt from 100 to 500 mM with no noticeble effect

>  - Non-ionic detergents, such as Tween 20 at
> 0.05% or 0.1%
>

I've tried both these levels.

 
> Also - double check that the problem is indeed 
> where you think it is by simply doing the blot
> and leave out key elements, such as the avidin etc.

I tried this to determine that it is the biotin binding protein causing
the problem.  I've also tried change the conjugate (both Alk Phos and
HRP), so it does seem to be the avidin/streptavidin.  Thank you for the
suggestions, but as you can see, I've tried most already.  Great minds
think alike :{).

-- 
                                         Scott McMahan
                                         mcmahan@oncology.wisc.edu

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From: Sean Moore <tuffguy@uab.edu>
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Subject: Re: How much azide to use?
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Achim Recktenwald, PhD wrote:


I think a little ethanol (like 40-50%) should do the trick.

 Achim

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From: wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Warren Gallin)
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Subject: Re: Immunize rabbits with Protein in SDS PAGE gel??
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In Article <199610101607.KAA06673@NMSU.Edu>, hroychow@NMSU.EDU (Hiranya
Roychowdhury) wrote:
>At 08:01 AM 10/10/96 -0700, v161@rex.uokhsc.edu wrote:
>>Hi, 
>>I am looking for information regarding immunization of
>>rabbits. I have read that you can immunize them with
>>protein in SDS PAGE gel ( lyophilized or crushed gel
>>slice, and resuspended in water). Does any one have any
>>experience in this matter? Will the SDS be toxic to the 
>>Rabbits? 

>It is interesting to note that you don't consider acrylamide toxic! Although
>I have heard that one can immunize with the acrylamide present, I would not
>inject the bunny with acrylamide (call me sensisitive). Acrylamide, even
>polymerized, is far more toxic than the little SDS that remains after
>elution. Proteins (polypeptides) are easily eluted from SDS-PAG slices
>either by electroelution or by passive diffusion. SDS containing sample does
>not in any way reduce the antigenicity of the polypeptide. If anything, the
>reduced and denatured state offers better antigen for raising polyclonals.

    Polyacrylamide is not toxic.  However, it leaves a deposit at the
injection site, which can often cause development of a painful granuloma. 
The easiest way to inject gel purified protein is to transfer to
nitrocellulose by electroblotting, pulverize the little piece of NC with the
protein band and inject in PBS with an appropriate adjuvant.  The advantage
of this over soluble protein is that the NC-bound protein provides you with
a longer exposure to the antigen (depot effect).  However, it works both
ways, so it's more a matter of taste than any strong advantage of one
approach over the others.

Warren Gallin
Department of Biological Sciences
University of Alberta
Edmonton,  Alberta     T6G 2E9
Canada
wgallin@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca

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From: Filippo Bicocco <flip@world-net.net>
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Subject: Student needs help.
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I'm a Bio-chem. undergrad. student @ St. Mary's Uni. @ San Antonio, TX.
USA. And I turn to the news group in hopes to recieve some help for my
seminar that is due the 11th of November. The topic of the seminar is:

Antibody production by B lymphocytes. The distribution and functions of
isotopes.

If you have any info. that might/could/is helpful, I'll greatly appre.
your help. If you know of a "site", literature, or if you wish to
share your knowledge, please email me @:

flip@world-net.net

Thank you very much...

Filippo B.

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From: dg628@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Angela C. Murphy)
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Subject: Re: unblocking acetylated N-termini
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I believe there is an enzymatic method for removing acetyl groups from
the N-termini of proteins, but I don't have any references.  You can
try sending a message to abrf@aecom.yu.edu or looking at the ABRF web
page, at the sequencing sections.  Hope this helps.
Angela C. Murphy
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From: altabios@bham.ac.uk (John E. Fox)
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Subject: Re: Unblocking acetylated amino termini of proteins
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In article <199610101331.GAA12051@net.bio.net>, PCS@NERVM.NERDC.UFL.EDU (Paul Sehnke) says:
>
>I am interested in a procedure to remove acetylation from N-terminal methionine
>s of plant proteins, so they can be sequenced.       Anyone know of references

Not heard of any way to do this. If anyone can think of a nice
clean method it could be worth a lot of money.
I think you are stuck with trying to get an internal sequence after
digestion.
I have heard that blocking can occur during purification but I
am not convinced about this. If it were the case every protein 
would be the same.

John Fox

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Oct 10 23:00:00 1996
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Subject: PhD student position in Berlin (GERMANY)
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From: birgit@pepper.ifi.unibas.ch (Birgit Westermann)
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Max Delbrueck Centre for Molecular Medicine

The research group "Vesicle transport" at the Max Delbrueck Centre 
for Molecular Medicine in Berlin (Germany) offers a doctorand 
position for two years (BAT IIa/2) within the project

"Regulation of intracellular protein transport by PKC isoforms".

The applicant should have completed his (her) studies in 
biochemistry, molecular biology or biology. Experience in molecular 
biology and cell culture techniques would be advantagous.

This position has no teaching requirements.

If you are interested to work in this research project, please send your
c.v. and diploma certificate to

Max.Delbrueck-Centrum
Dr. Peter Westermann
Robert-Roessle-Str. 10
13125 Berlin
Germany

(e-mail: westerm@mdc-berlin.de)

For further information, please contact me (informally, via 
e-mail) or using the above mentioned address.

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From: nef1002@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Fisher)
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Subject: Re: Thioglycolic Acid
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In article <n1367178192.68119@tcell.dnax.org>, dave_campbell@dnax.org
("Dave Campbell") wrote:

> Does anybody know the concentration of Thioglycolate to use in the running
> buffer of an SDS-PAGE gel to prevent blockage of free N-termini by acrylamide
> free radicals?

I usually include 2 mM mercaptoacetic acid to prevent N-blockage.

Nick Fisher
Biochemistry Dept.
Cambridge
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 11 23:00:00 1996
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From: Kevin Shreder <kshreder@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Updated WWWsite:  The Antibody Resource Pag
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:10:51 -0700
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Updated WWWsite:  The Antibody Resource Page

The Antibody Resource Page, the first website devoted to bringing together the vast 
number of resources about antibodies on the net, has recently been updated.  The page is 
designed to be browsed by the novice or expert and is divided into several sections:

EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES
ONLINE JOURNALS 
THE STUDY OF ANTIBODY RECOGNITION
RESOURCES TO FIND ANTIBODIES
SEARCHABLE DATABANKS AND DATABASES
ANNOUNCEMENTS
MISCELLANEOUS RESOURCES

The fourth section is particularly large and contains information on ways to find 
antibodies (including how to obtain Linscott's Directory and the Manufacturers' 
Specifications and Reference Synopsis (MSRS) catalog), a large list of online companies 
that sell antibodies or antibody related products (over 60 links!), and a list of companies 
that sell antibodies that are not online.

I am always looking for new information and new links, so if you know of something, 
please contact me.  Or just contact me to let me know what you think of the page!

The URL for the Antibody Resource Page is:

http://www-chem.ucsd.edu/Faculty/goodman/antibody.html/abpage.html


Kevin Shreder, Ph.D.
University of California at San Diego
kshreder@ucsd.edu

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 11 23:00:00 1996
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Subject: inverse lysine
Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:59:56 -0700
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I'm looking for either
(1) a simple procedure (for the organic-challenged) to
    convert a lysine NH3+ to a COO- (or some other anion).
    The process could add a few extra CH2's, but I'd like
    to avoid the more polar stuff and definitely avoid
    leaving the cations around.
OR
(2) a synthetic polymer with a comparable basic structure
    (i.e. a backbone of _some_ kind with anions at the end
    of flexible tethers.)  A colleague suggested polystyrene
    sulfinate, but I'm a little concerved about the aromatics.

Thanks!

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 11 23:00:00 1996
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From: salty@uxmail.ust.hk (@Salty Bean@)
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Subject: A question
Date: 12 Oct 1996 18:50:31 GMT
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To all biological science experts:
	
	I have a question on protein/strutrue relationships and it is as

follow:

	"For a long time it was imagined that overall protein folding plays
an essential role in production of the correct secondary and tertiary 
structures requires for protein functio. More recently, it has become 
apparent that many proteins have a highly flexible structure thus 
allowing individual domains( or regions) of the protein to function 
independently. Discuss these contrasting aspects of protein structure with
reference to structure/function relationships that apply to the tumor 
suppressor protein and the yeast transcriptional activator protein Gal4."

	I really don't know how to get started. So could you all kindly give
me some hints on answering such a question.

Thanks in advance.

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Subject: inverse lysine (fwd)
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OOPS ! ! !

---------8<-----------------(snip)----------------------------
>   sulfinate, but I'm a little concerved about the aromatics.
They're honest typos, but _BOY_ do they look bad...  Even though
the i/o and n/v pairs are nearby key pairs, it looks like the poster
(a) can't even spell the group he's looking for and
(b) is apparently conservative
- - -  obviously I meant sulfunate and coacervation    }:)
((Thanks in advance for any assistance...))

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Fri Oct 11 23:00:00 1996
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From: dellaire@ODYSSEE.NET (Graham Dellaire)
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Subject: Genome Structure/Function Call for Discussion on New Group
Date: 12 Oct 1996 21:03:00 -0700
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Dear Bionet readers,

I am posting this note to ask for comments and suggestions for 
a new news group on genome/chromatin structure and function:

tentatively called bionet.genome.structure

The importance of chromatin/genomes structure for the processes of
replication, transcription and recombination is becoming more and more
apparent.  Chromatin context can affects the expression and replication
timing of a gene domain. Such interelationship between gene function and
changes in chromatin structure have been demonstrated through an
evolution of techniques from Dnase I sensitivity mapping to fluorescent
in situ hybridization (FISH.  I believe with such far reaching affects
on many areas of molecular biology, it is time we devoted a news group
to the study of genome structure and function. 
  

The following is a list of "possible" topics.  If you feel we should
include others or have suggestions as to the format of the news group
please reply via e-mail to: dellaire@odyssee.net

In addition to myself three tentative discussion leaders have already
been contacted and wish to encourage the formation of such a group.

They are:

Dr. Eric Milot (Erasmus, Neatherlands)
Dr. Ronald Hancock (U of Laval, Quebec, Canada)
Dr. Peter Cook (Oxford, England)

Cheers, 

Graham Dellaire
________________________

Here is the list of topics so far.


1. Genome/chromatin accessibility and recombination
                    -recombination hotspots (mieotic and mitotic)
                    -fragile sites 
                    -imprinting and recombination rates
		    -ectopic gene targeting and chromatin structure

3. Effect of DNA topology/structure(Triple strand, Z-DNA, cruciform,
bent etc)
   on biological processes such as:
                    -replication
                    -transcription
                    -recombination
                                              
4. Histones and Nucleosomes and chromatin structure/function
                    -H1 repression of transcription
                    -Post translational modification of histones
                     acetylation (H4, H3), phosphorylation (H1, H3) 
                     and ubiquitination (H2A, H2B)
                    -Histone variants (ex. H2A.Z in mammals, H5 of
chicken)

5. Models of genome structure (Loop Domain Model, Channel Model,
MegaBase Giant Loop Model, etc.)


6. Evolution of the Genome
                    -isochores and base-content (GC vs. AT)
                    -formation of gene clusters and syntenic mapping
                    -repetitive elements (satellites, telomeric and 
                     centromeric (alpha) repeats, lines and sines)

7. Biologically important mutants and knockouts that affect
genome/chromatin structure
                    -ex. SNF/SWI, TOPO mutants in yeast
                    -RAD 51,52,54 knockout mice
                    -AT, BLM, FA mouse models
 
8. Techniques for genome/chromatin analysis
                    -Fluorescent Insitu Analysis
                    -psoralen, polyamine crosslinking
                    -In vivo nucleosome foot printing
                    -Dnase I/Micrococcal Nuclease sensitivity 
                    -VM26 Topoisomerase II site mapping
                    
9. Chromatin/DNA binding proteins and their effects on chromatin
structure 
   and/or gene expression
                    -Polycomb proteins
                    -Rap1 (telomere silencing)
                    -alpha2-MCM1 (repression of MAT locus)
                    -CENP A/B/C (centromere structure/function)
                    -XCAP-C/E, SMC1/2 (chromatin Condensation)
                    -remodeling of chromatin by SWI/SNF proteins

10. Matrix attatchent regions (MAR's), domain boundaries and locus
control regions (LCR's)
    and their relationship to gene structure and function.
                    -definition of transcription/replication domains
                    -model systems ex. betaglobin (LCR)
                     SCS/SCS' of the Drosophila Heat Shock Locus
(HS87a7)

11. Phenomenon of Position Effect and Transvection
                    -in drosophila (HP1, polycomb, heterochromatization)
                    -in mammalian systems (silencing or variegated
                     expression of transgenes)

12. Epigenetic effects on gene function 
                    -imprinting
                    -methylation
                    -maintenance of early/late replication

13. Dosage compensation mechanisms and X chromosome inactivation
                    -MSL proteins of Drosophila
                    -XIC (Xist RNA) in mammals
                    -CpG methylation 
                    
14. Chromatin structure and DNA replication
                    -ORC1 protein of yeast 

15. DNA repair and chromatin structure
                    -TFIIH (transcription coupled repair)
                    -p53 
                    -BLM and AT genes
                    -poly-ADP-polymerase (PARP)

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From: Manfred Schuermann <msms@ON-Luebeck.DE>
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Subject: Orosomucoid genotyping
Date: 13 Oct 1996 05:23:57 GMT
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Orosomucoid (ORM) 

                   is a highly polymorphic protein.  Genotyping 
is usually done by isoelectric focusing. I would like to know, 
if there is a  *DNA / PCR based*  method to demonstrate ORM alleles.
(The Genome Data Base -GDB- does not list ORM variants)


Thank you very much for helpful hints!


Manfred Schuermann, M.D.

           Institute of Human Genetics
           University of Luebeck Medical School, Germany  
   
                e-mail   msms@on-luebeck.de
                phone    +49 451 500 2620
                fax      +49 451 500 4187



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