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From: Per Mygind <perm@medmicro.aau.dk>
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Subject: Re: LIC, any pitfalls to look out for?
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 15:37:40 +0100
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To: Brad Poland <brad@elroy.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu>

Brad Poland wrote:
> 
> I have been thinking of trying the Ligation Independent Cloning from
> Novagen,  does
> anyone have experience with this technique?  If so what are some
> pitfalls to look out
> for?  Thanks.
> 
Its an exellent tool, apart from being ligation independant, it is also
restriction-endonuclease independent, meaning that no restrictionsites
are required. I personally cloned 4 different gene fragments for
expression, in a matter of days....... 
(absolute no affiliation, but I regret I didn't invent the technique ;-)

Regards

Per Mygind

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From: kaf28@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A Floyd)
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Hi all!

I am attempting without much success to cross-link a thylakoid protein in an attempt to
identify proteins it is associated with.

I would greatly appreciate any advice anybody has to offer.

This is what I am doing:

I am using the crosslinker BASED (Pierce chemicals), a crosslinker with a cleavable
di-sulphide link with two photoactivated linking groups.  

the aim is to cross link the membrane proteins , run it on a acyrlamide gel and make a western
blot using an antibody raised to my protein of intrest.  After (succesfully!) cross linking I
wish to excise the band, reduce the cross linker and blot onto PVDF membrane for N-terminal
sequencing of any proteins associated with my one of intrest.

I have tried altering the cross-linker and protein concentrations, the pH of buffers used, the
solvent in which the crosslinker is made up in all to no avail.

I would greatly appreciate it if you could mail me advice on kaf28@mole.bio.cam.ac.uk

Thanks

Kevin floyd

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From: Ivan Delgado <delgadoi@pilot.msu.edu>
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Subject: X-ray crystal structure
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Hi,
    I have successfully overexpressed a plant protein in bacteria and as
far as I can tell it its functionally active. Due to the unique binding
characteristics of this protein, I was interested in determining its
structure. I have read about the different methods of how to obtain
crystals and know a lot less about the procedure of crystal analysis
itself. Could anybody guide me towards a way of obtaining a crystal and
more importantly, of how to obtain a crystal structure? (such as an
institute that provides a facility to do such experiments, or a
collaboration).
    Thanks in advance for your help,
    Ivan


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From: hdejonge@freemail.nl (H. de Jonge)
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Subject: Protein precipitation
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Dear reader,

I am a Dutch biology student working on a project that involves the
separation of proteins. I found out that addition of heparin to my
concentrated protein solution caused a precipitation of the protein. I
think this can be explained by the polysaccharide binding to the positive
charge on the surface of the protein making it less soluble. It seems to
stay in solution if I lower the protein concentration and this confuses
me. Can someone explain to me what the mechanism is? How can the protein
concentration affect its solubility when it complexes with heparin (or
other charged molecules)?

Thank you.

Hugo de Jonge.

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From: John Philo <"jphilo*NO SPAM12*"@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Protein precipitation
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 08:03:48 -0800
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H. de Jonge wrote:
> 
> Dear reader,
> 
> I am a Dutch biology student working on a project that involves the
> separation of proteins. I found out that addition of heparin to my
> concentrated protein solution caused a precipitation of the protein. I
> think this can be explained by the polysaccharide binding to the positive
> charge on the surface of the protein making it less soluble. It seems to
> stay in solution if I lower the protein concentration and this confuses
> me. Can someone explain to me what the mechanism is? How can the protein
> concentration affect its solubility when it complexes with heparin (or
> other charged molecules)?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Hugo de Jonge.

Hugo,

There are several mechanisms that may be at work here.  The first is the
one you allude to, that the binding of the highly negatively charged
heparin neutralizes the positive charges on your protein.  This in turn
can reduce charge repulsion effects that tend to prevent protein
molecules from coming together to aggregate and precipitate.

Based on my own work with fibroblast growth factors, it is also likely
that you have multiple protein molecules bound along the long heparin
polymer like beads on a string.  It is known for FGFs that the proteins
pack very tightly together.  These high molecular weight complexes tend
to have low solubility.  If this mechanism is correct, then you may be
able to avoid precipitation by adding MORE heparin, since when there are
more heparin molecules the number of proteins bound to any one heparin
will be reduced.

It is also known that binding to heparin can induce significant
conformational changes in proteins.  This may do something such as
exposing hydrophobic groups which can then stick to other proteins and
lead to precipitation.

Whatever the mechanism, it is not surprising that you see less or no
precipation at lower protein concentrations.  You said it yourself--the
protein/heparin complexes have low solubility, and thus will stay in
solution up to a certain maximal concentration (the "solubility").

'Hope this helps,
 
John Philo, Alliance Protein Laboratories
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From: tby@randbaek.chem.umu.se (Tomas Bystrom)
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I wonder if it is studied how and why fluorinated hydrocarbons is so common
in dissolving peptides? Is there any specific interactions between the
fluorine atoms and the peptide?
Any references would be very welcome!

/Tomas Bystrom

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check that you used endotoxin and pyrogen free water to store this
peptide.


Dr.W.H. Colledge (whc23@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote:
: In general, how stable is a basic peptide if stored in solution at -20'C?
: What might be expected to happen to a peptide stored under these
: conditions? Could a peptide stored under these conditions change to
: produce a substance that was toxic to mammalian cells? Many thanks.

: -- 
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: Physiology
: University of Cambridge
: Cambridge
: CB2 3EG

: Tel. 01223-333881
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the effect of heparin and other polyhydric polymers on proteon solubility
is largely physical in nature. these substances exclude water because of
their large partial molar volume and as a result tend to increase
effective protein concentration. thus, a protein solutions finds itself
much closer to its solubility limit in the presence of these osmolytes.
this is the reason for the dependence on protein cocentration. as you
clearly point out, heparin binding to protein (which does not occur at
these concentrations; you need to be in the molar range) cannot explain
this.

check out the work of tanford, ben-naim, and timasheff.


John Philo ("jphilo*NOSPAM12*"@earthlink.net) wrote:
: H. de Jonge wrote:
: > 
: > Dear reader,
: > 
: > I am a Dutch biology student working on a project that involves the
: > separation of proteins. I found out that addition of heparin to my
: > concentrated protein solution caused a precipitation of the protein. I
: > think this can be explained by the polysaccharide binding to the positive
: > charge on the surface of the protein making it less soluble. It seems to
: > stay in solution if I lower the protein concentration and this confuses
: > me. Can someone explain to me what the mechanism is? How can the protein
: > concentration affect its solubility when it complexes with heparin (or
: > other charged molecules)?
: > 
: > Thank you.
: > 
: > Hugo de Jonge.

: Hugo,

: There are several mechanisms that may be at work here.  The first is the
: one you allude to, that the binding of the highly negatively charged
: heparin neutralizes the positive charges on your protein.  This in turn
: can reduce charge repulsion effects that tend to prevent protein
: molecules from coming together to aggregate and precipitate.

: Based on my own work with fibroblast growth factors, it is also likely
: that you have multiple protein molecules bound along the long heparin
: polymer like beads on a string.  It is known for FGFs that the proteins
: pack very tightly together.  These high molecular weight complexes tend
: to have low solubility.  If this mechanism is correct, then you may be
: able to avoid precipitation by adding MORE heparin, since when there are
: more heparin molecules the number of proteins bound to any one heparin
: will be reduced.

: It is also known that binding to heparin can induce significant
: conformational changes in proteins.  This may do something such as
: exposing hydrophobic groups which can then stick to other proteins and
: lead to precipitation.

: Whatever the mechanism, it is not surprising that you see less or no
: precipation at lower protein concentrations.  You said it yourself--the
: protein/heparin complexes have low solubility, and thus will stay in
: solution up to a certain maximal concentration (the "solubility").

: 'Hope this helps,
:  
: John Philo, Alliance Protein Laboratories
: *** Remove "*NO SPAM12*" from return address before replying. ***

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     Dear all.
     I would like to find  articles about simultaneous isolation of RNA
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     My protocol of RNA extraction  is guanidium/phenol /chloroforme and
     ineed to quantify RNA and protein from the same samples.
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Hello,

I have recently needed to extract total proteins from mouse lung
tissue.  The proteins are then used to produce westerns for analysis.  I
am having problems with my protein extracts precipitating and am
questioning my extraction protocol and am finding very little in the way
of general protocols for total protein extractions from tissue.
My current protocol is as follows:
- Harvest lung tissue
- Freeze in liquid nitrogen
- Grind to powder with mortar and pestle
- Add lysis buffer (50mM Tris-HCl, 10mM CaCl2, 2M Guanidine-HCl, 0.2%
TritionX-100)
- Vortex 2 minutes
- Spin out particulate , 10k x g, rt, 60 seconds
- Dialyze supernatant 48 hours (50mM Tris-HCl, 0.2% TritionX-100):(3,500
MWCO)
- Storage -20C
My resulting suspension of proteins tends to precipitate...
Is there an easier method than this?
Is the dialysis necessary?
Would the 10mM CaCl2, 2M Guanidine-HCl interfere with western running?

Any suggestions of alternate methods, or sources of alternate methods,
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx



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From: tdlaing@nospam.mailhost.dres.dnd.ca (T.D. Laing)
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Subject: Re: RNA/protein isolation
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In article <3524DC12.B7770D7C@rockefeller.univ-lyon1.fr>,
jcroux@rockefeller.univ-lyon1.fr wrote:

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>      Dear all.
>      I would like to find  articles about simultaneous isolation of RNA
>      and proteins.
>      My protocol of RNA extraction  is guanidium/phenol /chloroforme and
>      ineed to quantify RNA and protein from the same samples.
>      Is it possible?
>      Thank you very much

You can use Trizol reagent (GIBCO/BRL) to isolate RNA, DNA and proteins
from the same sample.  Isolation by TRIzol is a
guanidinium/phenol/chloroform extraction method.  But it depends on
whether you need active protein, or if you can use denatured protein for
your studies.

Good luck!

Terrina

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Remove "nospam" from my e-mail address to reply.

My opinions do not reflect those of my employers.

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From: klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin)
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Subject: An interesting puzzle - Pierce's "Gentle Ag/Ab elution buffer"?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 03:26:41 GMT
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I am trying to understand what that could be...

        Background: 

Pierce claims that this "magic" elution buffer is in every respect better than 
conventional low pH elution, giving better recoveries and much better 
preservation of antibody activity. This does not appear
to be a pure marketing lie - another company, Sterogene, sells
"Actistep" elution buffer and claims practically the same. Sterogene
specializes in industrial applications so I tend to believe there is some
truth to the claims. 

        What is known: 

efficiently disrupts antigen/antibody interactions, pH is 6.5, is incompatible 
with phosphate, is not chaotropic agent, is dialyzable out (the latter told by 
Pierce tech support, so is not nesessarily correct :-)) .

I am pulling my hairs out trying to understand what that could be... My best 
guess is some mild ionic detergent like CHAPSO and the likes but 
incompatibility with phosphate stumbles me...

Your ideas, please. TIA, 

        Dima



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From: Uncle S <UncleS@interzon.com>
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Subject: Re: non-denaturing acrylamide gel electrophoresis
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Cecilia Santos wrote:
> 
> I would like to get some information on non-denaturing gel
> electrophoresis such as running buffers and gel composition

nondenaturing electrophoresis is mentioned briefly in:

Laue-T-M and Rhodes-D-G (1990) Methods in Enzymology 182: 566-587,
specifically pp 582-583.

within that, there is further reference to 

Rodbard-D and Chrambach-A (1971) Anal Biochem.  40, 95

and 

Andrews-A-T (1986) _Eectrophoresis: Theory, Techniques, and Biochemical
and Clinical Applications._ Clarendon Press, Oxford.

Here's the short answer:
	You've got to figure out the pI of your protein and alter the pH of
your buffers so that the protein is charged.  expasy will calculate the
pI if you know the sequence.  http://expasy.hcuge.ch/

From there, you have to empirically determine the optimal concentration
of acrylamide and salts for good separation.  

I just started with the standard lamelli system minus the SDS (which
worked for my calculated pI) and tweaked it from there.

Shamus

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Subject: Free Protein Manager Demo Software
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Subject: non-denaturing acrylamide gel electrophoresis
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I would like to get some information on non-denaturing gel
electrophoresis such as running buffers and gel composition


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if you are talking about fluoroalkanes, which i doubt, the rationale would
be the highly hydrophobic nature of the fluorine atom. being relatively
large, its charge in the outer shell is delocalized, giving it very apolar
character, and enabling it solubilize otherwise water-insoluble peptides.

however, the hydrocarbonds you may be referring to are trifluoroethanol
and/or hexafluoroisopropanol. in this case, these alcohols structure water
and destabilize polypeptide backbone exposure in such a way as to induce
formation of helical (and sometimes beta-sheet) structures.

check out biochemistry two months from now for an article on the topic.


Tomas Bystrom (tby@randbaek.chem.umu.se) wrote:
: I wonder if it is studied how and why fluorinated hydrocarbons is so common
: in dissolving peptides? Is there any specific interactions between the
: fluorine atoms and the peptide?
: Any references would be very welcome!

: /Tomas Bystrom

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From: behrends@plexus.uke.uni-hamburg.de (Soenke Behrends)
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Subject: species homologue?
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Dear netters,
I have a new amino acid sequence and I am not sure whether it is the
a species homologue (as I currently think) or maybe a new isoform (as
other people tell me). Amino acid similarity as calculated by the
MegAlign DNAstar program is 67% between human and rat. 
If you have a good citation for that kind of question I would be
most grateful. 
Thanks
Soenke


Dr. Soenke Behrends
Hamburg
Germany



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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 01:15:52 -0500
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	I am an undergraduate at Worcester Polytechnic Institute	
	researching the Na,K-ATPase.  I am interested in the cation
	coordinating ability of oxy-containing amino acids in the
	inner, hydrophillic region of the transmebrane segments.
	
	I have done some point mutation/kenetics studies of the
	enzyme, but I am interested in molecular modeling and plan
	to complete my senior research project with a 3-d hypothetical
	model of the TMs I am studying.  

	We have some crosslinking data, and I am looking for some sort
	of program for a PC or UNIX platform that could help me in
	positioning/visualizing the TM fragments.  I have been using
	PCMODEL in my molecular modeling class, but am I would like 
	something more specifically geared towards protein chemistry.
	
	Thank you,
	Mary Devlin
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From: zaxxon <zhowar1@umbc.edu>
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Subject: Too high Tris-HCl in stacker SDS-PAGE a problem?
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:33:56 -0400
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Okay - here's my next question. Upon reviewing all of my solution-making
notes, I found that I've been making up the stock solution for my stacker
gel (for SDS-PAGE) with a higher than intended Tris-Cl concentration.
(I missed this before) It should've been about 125 mM but I think it's
actually ~150 mM. As I understand it, I understand the zone between the
chloride and glycine ions 'sweeps' the polypeptides onto the resolving
gel.  Could the higher Tris-Cl concentration affect this? It wouldn't
account for sample-to-sample differences - but it might account for the
overall loss of protein I've been experiencing. My resolving gel appears
to be made up correctly (with .375 Tris-Cl at pH 8.8).

Thanks, Zach




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Hi,

Can anyone refer me to a freeeware or web site that can search a protein
sequence for clevage-sites of proteolytic enzymes?

Thanks in advance.

--
Zeev Pancer, Ph.D.
Division of Biology 156-29
California Institute of Technology
1200 E. California Blvd.,
Pasadena, CA 91125, USA
Tel: (626) 395-4940
Fax: (626) 583-8351
http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~zpancer/zev-mirsky-info.html



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Hello everyone,

I am looking for protocols that will let me quantitate protein
aggregation/precipitation in vitro. Your suggestions are appreciated!

Ali


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From: Silke Beismann <sbeisma@Uni-MolGen.gwdg.de>
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Hi, 
does anyone know where I can get imidazole glycerol phosphate? I need
this substance for investigating an enzymatic reaction but I could not
find a provider. Do I really have to produce IGP myself?
Silke

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Is the crystal structure of telomerase known? If anyone knows of either
an article that has reported telomerase crystal  structure or research
groups working towards this structure , please email the bibliographic
information to me.
Thanks in advance. Miguel A. Talavera



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> Zeev Pancer wrote:
> > Can anyone refer me to a freeeware or web site that can search a protein
> > sequence for clevage-sites of proteolytic enzymes?

Mathew Woodwark wrote: 
> You might like to try ms-digest in proteinprospector. It is part of a
> package that using mass spec peptide mass data t identify proteins and one
> of the programs allows you to paste in a sequence and have it cut by a
> number of proteolytic enzymes
> 
> The address is
> 
> http://prospector.ucsf.edu/

An excellent suggestion.  If you're going to do a lot of digestion
simulations, you might not want to do it all over the net.  PAWS is a
really handy mass spec program that you can put on a Wintel or Mac
machine.  Prospector is nice for chopping up proteins that you pull out
of databases, but I do most of my mass spec work with PAWS.

here's the site
http://www.proteometrics.com/

be warned, it runs on java, so turn that language on in your browser.

better yet, use one of the alternate pages:

http://www.proteometrics.com/version2.html

http://www.proteometrics.com/version1.html
(bare bones)


Shamus

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Dear all.
I would like to find  scientific publications (references) about
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From: Uncle S <UncleS@interzon.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins,bionet.software,bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts
Subject: Re: Proteolytic map, freeware or web site?
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Uncle S wrote:
> 
> here's the site
> http://www.proteometrics.com/
> 
> be warned, it runs on java, so turn that language on in your browser.

Just to clarify, the default page at the proteometrics site is a java
based menu system, PAWS isn't.  [Well, they offer a netscape plug in
version of PAWS that may well be, but that wasn't what I meant]


> http://www.proteometrics.com/version2.html

This one has no java, but does contain a table.

> http://www.proteometrics.com/version1.html
> (bare bones)

This one is for old versions of lynx or mosaic.  It rather reminds me of
my homepage in its "15 minutes with HTML" simplicity.

Shamus

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Mon Apr 06 23:00:00 1998
From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Re: Imidazole glycerol phoshate
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Silke Beismann <sbeisma@Uni-MolGen.gwdg.de> wrote:
> does anyone know where I can get imidazole glycerol phosphate? I need
> this substance for investigating an enzymatic reaction but I could not
> find a provider. Do I really have to produce IGP myself?

Altavista says:

http://www.trc-canada.com/listofch.html

D-erythro-IMIDAZOLEGLYCEROL PHOSPHATE MONOHYDRATE [IGP]

   Catalogue #: i35000
   Molecular Weight: 256.15
   Molecular Formula: C6H11N2O6P &#149; H2O
   Comments: Saccharomyces ceresisiac cells, inhibited by aminotriazole,
   accumulate IGP, the natural intermediate in the biosynthesis of
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   Ames, B.N., et al: J. Gen. Microbiol., 22, 369 (1960),
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   Structure: [INLINE]
   Please indicate how many units you would like to order:
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   1_ x10mg @$75.00

The company to order from is Toronto Research Chemicals, Inc., located
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Hope that helps,
--Cornelius.

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Please note the International Congress on "Heat shock proteins in Immune
Response "is to be held in Farmington (CT) USA, October 12-15, 1998.
For information and registration details:
www.hspimmunity.com

Hope to see you there.

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Pierre Hubert <hubert@neurochem.u-strasbg.fr> writes:

> Simon Hoffenberg wrote:
> > If there is more than 1 transmembrane domain in a protein, what are the
> > combinations? For example, 7 domains in receptors coupled to G-proteins=
 or
> > 12 in adenylate cyclase. Is it possible to have 2 or 8-9 domains? If th=
ese
> > numbers are not allowed by Mother Nature, does it mean that these prote=
ins
> > are in fact 1 and 7 transmembrane domain proteins, respectively?
> > 
> 
> =09Have a look at Arkin, I. T., A. T. Brunger, & Engelman D.M. (1997).
> =93Are there dominant membrane protein families with a given number of
> helices?=94 Protein Struct Funct Genet 28(4): 465-466.
> =09They have scanned four complete genome sequences for putative
> transmembrane helices.
> It looks like anything goes between 1 and 19 TM domains, with no obvious
> domination of a particular family of membrane proteins with a given
> number of helices.

There study is not very careful. If you look more carefull into it,
you find that there is a increased tendancy for 6 and 12 TM regions in
multicellular organisms and 7 in unicellular organisms.

But anything between 1 and ~14 (for helical proteins) exists.

(Studies by Taylor & Jones (FEBS?) and Wallin & von Heijne (in press
in prot sci)

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From: Mathew Woodwark <mathew.woodwark@alderley.zeneca.com>
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Dear Zeev,

You might like to try ms-digest in proteinprospector. It is part of a
package that using mass spec peptide mass data t identify proteins and one
of the programs allows you to paste in a sequence and have it cut by a
number of proteolytic enzymes

The address is

http://prospector.ucsf.edu/

Might be worth a try...

Cheers

Mathew Woodwark
Zeneca

Usual disclaimers apply


Zeev Pancer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can anyone refer me to a freeeware or web site that can search a protein
> sequence for clevage-sites of proteolytic enzymes?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Zeev Pancer, Ph.D.
> Division of Biology 156-29
> California Institute of Technology
> 1200 E. California Blvd.,
> Pasadena, CA 91125, USA
> Tel: (626) 395-4940
> Fax: (626) 583-8351
> http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~zpancer/zev-mirsky-info.html




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In article <6g499h$1ek_002@doit.wisc.edu>,
klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin) wrote:

> I am trying to understand what that could be...
> 
>         Background: 
> 
> Pierce claims that this "magic" elution buffer is in every respect
better than 
> conventional low pH elution, giving better recoveries and much better 
> preservation of antibody activity. This does not appear
> to be a pure marketing lie - another company, Sterogene, sells
> "Actistep" elution buffer and claims practically the same. Sterogene
> specializes in industrial applications so I tend to believe there is some
> truth to the claims. 
> 
>         What is known: 
> 
> efficiently disrupts antigen/antibody interactions, pH is 6.5, is
incompatible 
> with phosphate, is not chaotropic agent, is dialyzable out (the latter
told by 
> Pierce tech support, so is not nesessarily correct :-)) .
> 
> I am pulling my hairs out trying to understand what that could be... My best 
> guess is some mild ionic detergent like CHAPSO and the likes but 
> incompatibility with phosphate stumbles me...
> 
> Your ideas, please. TIA, 
> 
>         Dima


Harlow and Lane recommend using organic reagents like Ethylene glycol or
dioxane. They cite some refs, but I haven't tried this.

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                                 || Department of Pathology
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   A post-doctoral position, starting between september and december 1998,
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   The Lab is currently working on the elucidation of the molecular
mechanims of cauliflower mosaic virus (CaMV) aphid transmission. Several
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   (i) study of the interaction between the aphid transmission factor and
cellular  microtubules (Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA, 93, 15158-15163);
Possible applications of   this property in plant pathology and beyond.


   (ii) Characterization of an additionnal (viral) factor involved in
aphid transmission.
   Indeed virus particles and aphid transmssion factor are not sufficient
for aphid    transmission to occur. An additional viral gene product is
now identified as a co-factor  regulating the interactions between virus
and vector. This is so far a unique phenomenon  among viruses transmitted
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   etc.......

   The post-doc will be expected to develope a project related to either
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In article <djt2-0704981823120001@templeton.path.cwru.edu>,
  djt2@po.cwru.edu (Dennis Templeton) wrote:
>
> In article <6g499h$1ek_002@doit.wisc.edu>,
> klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin) wrote:
>
> > I am trying to understand what that could be...
> >
> >         Background:
> >
> > Pierce claims that this "magic" elution buffer is in every respect
> better than
> > conventional low pH elution, giving better recoveries and much better
> > preservation of antibody activity. This does not appear
> > to be a pure marketing lie - another company, Sterogene, sells
> > "Actistep" elution buffer and claims practically the same. Sterogene
> > specializes in industrial applications so I tend to believe there is some
> > truth to the claims.
> >
> >         What is known:
> >
> > efficiently disrupts antigen/antibody interactions, pH is 6.5, is
> incompatible
> > with phosphate, is not chaotropic agent, is dialyzable out (the latter
> told by
> > Pierce tech support, so is not nesessarily correct :-)) .
> >
> > I am pulling my hairs out trying to understand what that could be... My best
> > guess is some mild ionic detergent like CHAPSO and the likes but
> > incompatibility with phosphate stumbles me...
> >
> > Your ideas, please. TIA,
> >
> >         Dima
>
> Harlow and Lane recommend using organic reagents like Ethylene glycol or
> dioxane. They cite some refs, but I haven't tried this.
>
> =================================||==================================
> Dennis J Templeton, M.D., Ph.D.  || Associate Professor
>                                  || Department of Pathology
> Internet djt2@po.cwru.edu        || 10900 Euclid Ave
> WWW http://templeton.cwru.edu    || Cleveland, Ohio 44106
>

The incompatibilty with phosphate could be due to Mg(++) salts, which are
mildly chaotropic at high concentrations.  I've also used the Pierce buffer in
the past, and at that time I got the impression that there was also ethylene
glycol in it, but I can't remember why I thought so at the time.

My guess is that the gentle elution buffer is a neutral pH buffer with MgCl(2)
and ethylene glycol.

Nick Theodorakis
Georgetown University Medical Center

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                        SECOND CALL FOR PAPERS
                        ======================


                  Journal of Combinatorial Optimization


                              Special Issue on
                      Computational Molecular Biology



Guest Editors:       Ying Xu, Satoru Miyano, Tom Head.

Submission Deadline: August 15, 1998.


The past ten years have witnessed the rapid development of a new
discipline, computational molecular biology. Combinatorial optimization
and algorithms have played a significant role in advancing this new
discipline. The partnership between mathematics, in particular
combinatorial optimization and algorithms, and molecular biology has
greatly enriched both fields, leading to new ways of thinking and
greater challenges to meet.

The scope of this Special Issue includes all aspects of combinatorial
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papers are solicited that describe research on combinatorial methods for

problems arising from the following areas (nonexhaustive) of molecular
biology:

           -- DNA sequencing
           -- DNA mapping
           -- recognition of genes and regulatory elements
           -- RNA/protein structure prediction
           -- molecular evolution
           -- combinatorial libraries and drug design
           -- bio-sequence analysis and comparison
           -- computing with biomolecules.

Six hard copies of each submitted manuscript should be sent to one of
the
guest editors by August 15, 1998. Manuscripts must be prepared according

to the normal submission requirements of the Journal of Combinatorial
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manuscript will be refereed by at least three anonymous reviewers.
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              Ying Xu
              Computational Biosciences Section
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              Shirokanedai 4-6-1, Minato-ku, Tokyo 108-8639, Japan.
              Tel.: +81-3-5449-5615
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Subject: Re: An interesting puzzle - Pierce's "Gentle Ag/Ab elution buffer"?
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Dennis Templeton wrote:
> 
> In article <6g499h$1ek_002@doit.wisc.edu>,
> klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin) wrote:

> > Pierce claims that this "magic" elution buffer is in every respect
> better than
> > conventional low pH elution, giving better recoveries and much better
> > preservation of antibody activity. This does not appear
> > to be a pure marketing lie - another company, Sterogene, sells
> > "Actistep" elution buffer and claims practically the same. Sterogene
> > specializes in industrial applications so I tend to believe there is some
> > truth to the claims.
         Dima
> 
> Harlow and Lane recommend using organic reagents like Ethylene glycol or
> dioxane. They cite some refs, but I haven't tried this.

Diiodosalicylate is also commonly used for this purpose

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From: murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au (Roger Murphy)
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Subject: metal chelate chromatography
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 98 22:37:28 GMT
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Hi netters!

I know that this subject has come up before, but what do people think about 
the two main products for metal chelate chromatography?  I seem to remember a 
general consensus that the Qiagen product was better than the Pharmacia one 
(less leaching, higher loading, better affinity, etc), but here in Australia, 
the Qiagen resins are twice the price of the Pharmacia ones - is it really 
twice as good??

Confidential opinions can be sent to my email address if you're shy...

Thanks in advance,

Roger



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In article <6g499h$1ek_002@doit.wisc.edu>, 
klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin) wrote:
:I am trying to understand what that could be...
:
:        What is known: 
:
:efficiently disrupts antigen/antibody interactions, pH is 6.5, is incompatible 
:with phosphate, is not chaotropic agent, is dialyzable out (the latter told by 
:Pierce tech support, so is not nesessarily correct :-)) .
:
:I am pulling my hairs out trying to understand what that could be... My best 
:guess is some mild ionic detergent like CHAPSO and the likes but 
:incompatibility with phosphate stumbles me...

Thanks very much to everyone who replied, to the group and by email. 
Many people suggested it could be magnesium. Harlow & Lane "Antibodies" 
book lists 3.5 M MgCl2 pH 7.2 as one of the alternatives to acid 
elution. 

We ordered that stuff. It does not foam at all - so isn't detergent. It 
does form precipitate with phopshate, which is dissolved with EDTA but 
not EGTA, so it is Mg2+. By conductivity versus MgCl2 standards, it is 
3.6 M solution. NaJO4 does not oxidize anything in this solution, so I 
don't think there is ethylene glycol present. Sooo, if anyone wants to 
make Pierce's magic solution, the recipie is:

~ 20 mM MES or PIPES, 
3.6 M MgCl2,
titrate pH to ~ 6.5 with NaOH

Funny thing is that Pierce recommends to store this solution at 4C.
Hehehe, like anything would grow in 3.5 M MgCl2! 
Or is it MgCl2 unstable? :-) 

500 ml for $65 ... from Pierce 
        or [when buying expensive MgCl2 from Sigma] 
3.5 l for $104. Hmmm...

        Dima






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> 
> The incompatibilty with phosphate could be due to Mg(++) salts, which are
> mildly chaotropic at high concentrations.  I've also used the Pierce buffer in
> the past, and at that time I got the impression that there was also ethylene
> glycol in it, but I can't remember why I thought so at the time.
> 
> My guess is that the gentle elution buffer is a neutral pH buffer with MgCl(2)
> and ethylene glycol.
> 


I'm currently using this buffer (it works fairly well), one thing not
mentioned is the fact that if you mix the buffer with a buffer containing
DTT or beta-merc., a dark brown precipitate occurs (which makes it
impossible to run PAGE directly after elution). I wonder whether this is
maybe some metal like manganese, which has some similar properties to Mg
but is very easily reduced.
BTW, dialysis works fine.

Peter

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Zophonias O. Jonsson wrote:
> 
> The Qiagen Ni-NTA holds more tightly onto the metal ion, but
> usually the amount of protein lost by leaching is small and can be
> compensated for by growing ‰10 ml more of culture.
> 

Simpler yet, why not charge one column with the appropriate metal ion,
have another column that is uncharged and hook up the 2 in series?
The second column (the uncharged "catch column") will bind any ions
(along with bound protein) that may leech of the first.

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> 
> Thanks very much to everyone who replied, to the group and by email. 
> Many people suggested it could be magnesium. Harlow & Lane "Antibodies" 
> book lists 3.5 M MgCl2 pH 7.2 as one of the alternatives to acid 
> elution. 
> 
> We ordered that stuff. It does not foam at all - so isn't detergent. It 
> does form precipitate with phopshate, which is dissolved with EDTA but 
> not EGTA, so it is Mg2+. By conductivity versus MgCl2 standards, it is 
> 3.6 M solution. NaJO4 does not oxidize anything in this solution, so I 
> don't think there is ethylene glycol present. Sooo, if anyone wants to 
> make Pierce's magic solution, the recipie is:
> 
> ~ 20 mM MES or PIPES, 
> 3.6 M MgCl2,
> titrate pH to ~ 6.5 with NaOH
> 
> Funny thing is that Pierce recommends to store this solution at 4C.
> Hehehe, like anything would grow in 3.5 M MgCl2! 
> Or is it MgCl2 unstable? :-) 
> 
> 500 ml for $65 ... from Pierce 
>         or [when buying expensive MgCl2 from Sigma] 
> 3.5 l for $104. Hmmm...


OK, but what's the brown precipitate I get from this buffer when I add
loading buffer (or any other DTT- or b-merc.-containing solution)?

Peter

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Roger Murphy schrieb in Nachricht
<6gh165$98q$1@izvestia.its.unimelb.edu.au>...
>Hi netters!
>
>I know that this subject has come up before, but what do people think about
>the two main products for metal chelate chromatography?  I seem to remember
a
>general consensus that the Qiagen product was better than the Pharmacia one
>(less leaching, higher loading, better affinity, etc), but here in
Australia,
>the Qiagen resins are twice the price of the Pharmacia ones - is it really
>twice as good??
>
>Confidential opinions can be sent to my email address if you're shy...
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Roger


If you have access to Clontech products try out their Talon resin.

Lars




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In article <noone-0804981709450001@med1018.bham.ac.uk>,
noone@cancer.bham.ac.uk (noone) wrote:

> > 
> > The incompatibilty with phosphate could be due to Mg(++) salts, which are
> > mildly chaotropic at high concentrations.  I've also used the Pierce
buffer in
> > the past, and at that time I got the impression that there was also ethylene
> > glycol in it, but I can't remember why I thought so at the time.
> > 
> > My guess is that the gentle elution buffer is a neutral pH buffer with
MgCl(2)
> > and ethylene glycol.
> > 
> 
> 
> I'm currently using this buffer (it works fairly well), one thing not
> mentioned is the fact that if you mix the buffer with a buffer containing
> DTT or beta-merc., a dark brown precipitate occurs (which makes it
> impossible to run PAGE directly after elution). I wonder whether this is
> maybe some metal like manganese, which has some similar properties to Mg
> but is very easily reduced.
> BTW, dialysis works fine.
> 

Nickel makes a brown precipitate with DTT, as anyone who's mistakenly used
DTT in a Nickle-his tag column can testify. (you can restore these columns
successfully with a wash in 0.1% H2O2 until the color disappears).

Dennis
=================================||==================================
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Internet djt2@<NOSPAM>po.cwru.edu       
WWW http://templeton.cwru.edu    

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Does anyone know which mammalian enzyme is responsible for the background
blue staining of some mammalian tissues when staining for b-galactosidase
activity using X-gal? Thanks in advance.

-- 
Dr. W.H. Colledge
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Cambridge
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Tel. 01223-333881
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In article <6gh165$98q$1@izvestia.its.unimelb.edu.au>,
murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au (Roger Murphy) wrote:

> Hi netters!
> 
> I know that this subject has come up before, but what do people think about 
> the two main products for metal chelate chromatography?  I seem to remember a 
> general consensus that the Qiagen product was better than the Pharmacia one 
> (less leaching, higher loading, better affinity, etc), but here in Australia, 
> the Qiagen resins are twice the price of the Pharmacia ones - is it really 
> twice as good??
> 
> Confidential opinions can be sent to my email address if you're shy...

Hi Netter! 

Basically, they all work but if you have an FPLC and a protein that
expresses half-way decently I would recomment the Pharmacia Hi-Trap
Chelating columns.  They can be cleaned and re-used more than 10 times
without problems and they are fast.  You can also play around with
different metals (Co++, Ni++, Cu++ etc.) to optimize the purification of
you protein.  The Qiagen Ni-NTA holds more tightly onto the metal ion, but
usually the amount of protein lost by leaching is small and can be
compensated for by growing ‰10 ml more of culture.

Zophonias

_____________________________________________________________________
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Institut fur Veterinarbiochemie               Tel: (41-1)-635-54-75
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From: "Roberto Gualtieri" <gualtier@dgbm.unina.it>
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Subject: CELL SURFACE GLYCOPROTEINS
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:20:46 +0200
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Hello!

Does anyone know good basic reviews on cell surface
glycoproteins/proteoglycans? I would like to get informations about their
mode of association with the cell membrane and the glycocalix, types of
saccharide chains, modes of enrichment/isolation for SDS-PAGE and lectin
blotting analysis.

Sicerely

Dr. Roberto Gualtieri

E mail: Gualtier@dgbm.unina.it



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Fellow Bionetters,
    What is your prefered membrane for western detection? We're using
std HRP chemiluminescent detection with both mono and poly clonal
antibodies on proteins from 10kDa to ~100kDa, usually from small BioRad
gels. Are the immobilon-NC (HAHY) better than the PVDF type? Or are
other brands prefered? Please only reply if you have strong opinions!
Email me directly as I have little time recently to visit this
newsgroup.

thanks in advance.

Ted Michelini
Institute of Molecular Biology
University of Oregon
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ISI - Institute for Scientific Interchange foundation

Euroconference on: PROTEIN FOLDING AND STRUCTURE PREDICTION

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R. Bazzo, M. Bolognesi, C. Chothia, M. Delarue, E. Domany, S. Fuller, T.
Gibson, P. Grassberger, T. Hubbard, D. Jones, A. M. Lesk, A. Maritan, H.
Orland, C. Peterson, D. Rizzi, C. Sander, L. Serrano, E. Shakhnovich, M. Sippl,
A Tramontano, G. Vriend.


Grants
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About 35 grants will be available for European Scientists under
35. Specific forms for application (to be found at
http://www.isi.it/events/1998/pfsp.html) have to be sent by e-mail or
fax to the ISI Foundation by April 20. A selection will be made on the
basis of the EU criteria.


Organising Committee
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E. Domany, (Weizman Inst., Israel), H. Orland (CEA, Saclay),
C. Peterson (Lund, Sweden), A. Tramontano (IRBM, Rome)


Support Team
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P. Bruscolini, V. Morea


Organisation
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ISI, Villa Gualino, Viale Settimio Severo 65,
10133 Torino, Italy
Phone: +39 11 6603090
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This conference is supported by the European Community

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Apr 09 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!THOMAS.BUTLER.EDU!rkarn
From: rkarn@THOMAS.BUTLER.EDU (Karn Robert)
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Subject: mouse submaxillary cDNA library
Date: 10 Apr 1998 05:32:46 -0700
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Hello out there,
	I need a copy of a mouse submaxillary cDNA library.  Does anyone
know where I can find either a commercial or private source for one?
Thanks in advance,
Bob Karn
karn@butler.edu


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Apr 09 23:00:00 1998
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Apr 11 23:00:00 1998
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From: stebby@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Stephen C. Dahl)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Q: best western membrane?
Date: 10 Apr 1998 18:51:57 GMT
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: Please only reply if you have strong opinions!
: Email me directly as I have little time recently to visit this
: newsgroup.


Well, call me an A-hole, but this kind of post always gets me fuming...
Like the rest of us have nothing better to do than sit on our fat butts
and be the Dear Abbys of biology.  Jeez, how much longer can it take to
read a single thread in a newsgroup vs. read one's e-mail?

So here's my opinion, posted to the group so others can benefit, modify,
or critique...

My favorite for hrp chemiluminescence is plain old nitrocellulose.  Not
the supported stuff because I've found too much variability.  Just plain
nitrocellulose.  Low backgrounds, easy to Ponceau stain to visualize bands
prior to use.  Now as for which supplier, welllllllll...I'm currently
retesting because my favorite has been sending me crap recently.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 12 23:00:00 1998
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From: klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts,bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: An interesting puzzle - Pierce's "Gentle Ag/Ab elution buffer"? <-- SOLVED
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In article <noone-0904980856590001@med1018.bham.ac.uk>, noone@cancer.bham.ac.uk (noone) wrote:
:
:> 
:> Thanks very much to everyone who replied, to the group and by email. 
:> Many people suggested it could be magnesium. Harlow & Lane "Antibodies" 
:> book lists 3.5 M MgCl2 pH 7.2 as one of the alternatives to acid 
:> elution. 
:> 
:> We ordered that stuff. It does not foam at all - so isn't detergent. It 
:> does form precipitate with phopshate, which is dissolved with EDTA but 
:> not EGTA, so it is Mg2+. By conductivity versus MgCl2 standards, it is 
:> 3.6 M solution. NaJO4 does not oxidize anything in this solution, so I 
:> don't think there is ethylene glycol present. Sooo, if anyone wants to 
:> make Pierce's magic solution, the recipie is:
:> 
:> ~ 20 mM MES or PIPES, 
:> 3.6 M MgCl2,
:> titrate pH to ~ 6.5 with NaOH
:> 
:> Funny thing is that Pierce recommends to store this solution at 4C.
:> Hehehe, like anything would grow in 3.5 M MgCl2! 
:> Or is it MgCl2 unstable? :-) 
:> 
:> 500 ml for $65 ... from Pierce 
:>         or [when buying expensive MgCl2 from Sigma] 
:> 3.5 l for $104. Hmmm...
:
:
:OK, but what's the brown precipitate I get from this buffer when I add
:loading buffer (or any other DTT- or b-merc.-containing solution)?

Per your message, I mixed Pierce's solution with 1 M DTT (yes, that's 1000 
mM!) and NO brown precipitate or any precipitate formed. So I have now
idea what buffer you have. 

        Dima


From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Apr 12 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!internet!biosci!not-for-mail
From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: BIOSCI/bionet miniFAQ & Fundraiser
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If you can not find an answer to your question in this or other
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We can only answer questions about the use of the newsgroups and
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information searches or answer scientific questions.  Please post
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	0) BIOSCI NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!!

	1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.

	2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	3) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


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First, please use our WWW system at http://www.bio.net/ to access the
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Second, if you work for a company or organization that provides
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1) Using the WWW to access the BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups.
--------------------------------------------------------
As of 10 December 1995, all BIOSCI/bionet full newsgroups are
accessible through the World Wide Web (WWW) at URL http://www.bio.net.
One can read and reply publicly or privately to both recent postings
and archived messages through one's Web browser if it is configured
properly to send e-mail.  Each newsgroup is equipped with its own WAIS
index.  The main BIOSCI home page also has access to the BIO-JOURNALS
Table of Contents database WAIS index and the BIOSCI user address
database described in another item further below.


2) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------
BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups),
mailing lists, and a hypermail archive at URL http://www.bio.net/.
The same postings are distributed on all media (except for a small
number of mailing-list-only groups at net.bio.net).  Unfortunately it
is becoming a despicable practice on the Internet (by a few people out
to make a fast buck) to do automated mass postings to thousands of
newsgroups and mailing lists.  These attempts to grab free advertising
are refered to as "spams" in the usual, somewhat boneheaded, net
terminology.  USENET is more susceptible to this practice, and many
spams originate on the USENET groups and then are passed on to the
mailing lists.  However, spammers also get lists of mailing addresses
and hit these too, so neither medium is immune.

What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
---------------------------------------------------
Just delete it and move on without reading it further.  Filing a
protest is becoming increasingly useless because spammers are often
disguising the addresses where the messages are sent from.  Unless you
really understand Internet mail systems, your attempt at protest by
sending replies to the message will often end up being sent to the
address of an innocent person that the spammer is victimizing.

What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
----------------------------------------------------
The only solution currently available is to moderate the newsgroup.
If this newsgroup is already moderated, then you are in good shape.
Moderation protects the USENET distribution from about 95% of the
spams that are being sent to date and protects the mailing lists
completely.  Moderation means, however, that someone has to take the
time to review each message before it goes out.  We have set up
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This takes no more time than that needed to read the message and pass
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Most newsgroups currently have a discussion leader who is responsible
for their newsgroup.  The discussions leaders and their e-mail
addresses are listed in the BIOSCI Information Sheet which is
available on the Web at http://www.bio.net/.  If a newsgroup is being
hit with too many junk postings, please contact the discussion leader
for that group and see if there is interest in moderating the group.
Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
newsgroup itself, anyone on the BIOSCI staff will act on your
complaint.  With close to 100 newsgroups to run, the BIOSCI staff has
to rely on the discussion leaders of each newsgroup to report problems
directly to us at biosci-help@net.bio.net.

We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
us that the readership of the group wishes to do so and if a moderator
is willing to do the work.  For most BIOSCI/bionet groups, this
entails only a few minutes of work each day.

Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
on the USENET distribution.  Unfortunately there are easy ways for
determined spammers to override the moderation mechanism on USENET,
but we can protect our e-mail subscribers from unwanted postings if
the newsgroup is moderated.  You can also access our newsgroups over
the WWW at URL http://www.bio.net.  While this Web interface will not
stop spammers from trying to post to the groups, this will give you
yet another way, besides using USENET news, to keep the junk out of
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the USENET newsgroup name is bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts, thus the
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From: klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Q: best western membrane?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:20:20 GMT
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In article <6glpod$4vu@news.jhu.edu>, stebby@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Stephen C. Dahl) wrote:
>: Please only reply if you have strong opinions!
>: Email me directly as I have little time recently to visit this
>: newsgroup.
>
>
>Well, call me an A-hole, but this kind of post always gets me fuming...
>Like the rest of us have nothing better to do than sit on our fat butts
>and be the Dear Abbys of biology.  Jeez, how much longer can it take to
>read a single thread in a newsgroup vs. read one's e-mail?

Agreed! 

>My favorite for hrp chemiluminescence is plain old nitrocellulose.  Not
>the supported stuff because I've found too much variability.  Just plain
>nitrocellulose.  Low backgrounds, easy to Ponceau stain to visualize bands
>prior to use.  Now as for which supplier, welllllllll...I'm currently
>retesting because my favorite has been sending me crap recently.

Agreed again. Plain ole stuff works best here. Bio-Rad 0.45 um is what 
I recommend but I am sure there are many others just as good. 

        Dima


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From: neil.pomroy@utorontoNOSPAM.ca (Neil Pomroy)
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Subject: Chelators and amino acid analysis
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:02:12 -0400
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Hello all,

I am working with an protease that requires Zn++ as a cofactor.  To stop
the enzyme, I was planning on using EDTA at a reasonable (ie mM)
concentration and analyze the peptide substrate by amino acid analysis. 
However, the people at the place I get my amino acid analysis done use
PICT derivitization, and are complaining that the amino groups of EDTA may
make their analyses wildly inaccurate.

Now, aside from the tedious and expensive task of calibrating their
analyses with varying EDTA concentrations, does anyone know of any quick
and easy way to avoid these difficulties?  A chelator of Zn++ with no
amino groups?  An easy way to precipitate EDTA?  An alternate form of
amino acid derivitization that doesn't use amino groups?

I am unwilling to run the mixture down a column of any sort as I am
concerned about aggregation and loss of my peptide substrate with local
concentration changes that might occur on a column.  I am somewhat
restricted in that I'd like to keep the pH of my experiments near 7,
though perhaps immediately before analysis that could be altered if it
would help get rid of EDTA.

Any ideas will be appreciated,

TIA,

-- 
Neil Pomroy
The Hospital for Sick Children and 
University of Toronto

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From: rmerkle@uga.cc.uga.edu (Roberta K. Merkle)
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Subject: CARBOHYDRATE LABORATORY COURSES
Date: 15 Apr 1998 13:31:06 GMT
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Techniques for Characterization of Complex Carbohydrates

Four courses will be offered in 1998 at the Complex Carbohydrate Research
Center (CCRC) of the University of Georgia: 
1. Separation and Characterization of Glycoprotein Oligosaccharides (June 1-5), 
2. Structural Analysis of Oligosaccharides (June 8-12), 
3. Mass Spectrometry and MS/MS Analysis of Glycoconjugates  (June 15-19),  
4  NMR of Carbohydrates (July 22-26).  

Courses will consist of hands-on laboratory work, demonstrations and
lectures; lab manual including selected analytical techniques and
references will be provided.  More details can be seen at the CCRC web
site at http://www.ccrc.uga.edu/web/training/courses.html     For further
information and application form contact Dr. Roberta K. Merkle, CCRC, 220
Riverbend Road, The University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia 30602-4712. 
Phone: 706-542-4402.  FAX: 706-542-4412.  E-mail: rmerkle@uga.cc.uga.edu

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From: "Lars Komorowski" <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de>
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Subject: Protease assay
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:18:52 +0100
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Who knows a reliable simple protease assay. It should work at high
temperatures and low pH.
Lars



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Subject: Re: Q: best western membrane?
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Stephen C. Dahl wrote:

> My favorite for hrp chemiluminescence is plain old nitrocellulose.  Not
> the supported stuff because I've found too much variability.  Just plain
> nitrocellulose.  Low backgrounds, easy to Ponceau stain to visualize bands
> prior to use.  Now as for which supplier, welllllllll...I'm currently
> retesting because my favorite has been sending me crap recently.

This is interesting, because I tried nitrocellulose once for dot-bloting
(vacuum dot blotter of course, not hand spotting) and quantitation by
HRP chemoluminescence and found that nitrocellulose, but not PVDF,
quenched the chemoluminescence. Nitrocellulose did work with DAB/Ni
detection, but not with chemoluminescence. I also found that protein
recovery after dot bloting is higher with PVDF than with NC (95 vs 60%
of the I-125 labeled Hsc70 bound to the membrane), and that PVDF gives a
lower background signal. Additionally, I used to be frustrated by NC
membranes breaking into pieces after 2 days on the rotary shaker, a
problem which does not occur with PVDF. So on balance I would come out
in favour of PVDF membranes like Immobilon P, despite their higher price
tag.

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From: hgsdoo@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Matthias Engel)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: did phage-display cDNA screening ever work?
Date: 15 Apr 1998 14:03:51 GMT
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Hi everyone!

Please excuse if you find this message to be posted to the wrong
newsgroup, but the topic is certainly between the disciplines.


I am trying to isolate cDNA clones from a phage-display library
bought from Maximbiotech (as far as I know, the only commercial
source of such cDNA libraries, since Clontech has stopped to sell
them). I have tried panning against my bait protein either 
coupled to microtiter plates or to paramagnetic beads for over 5
rounds. The recombinant phagemid vectors that I isolated carry
only tiny inserts (between 30 and 80 base pairs) and also show
a nice consensus sequence - unfortunately without affinity
to my target protein. I also detected 2 (!!!) mutations in the
vector sequence, one producing an additional stop codon 5´ to
the inserts. Did anybody ever isolate something useful out of
Maximbiotech´s phage display cDNA libraries? Or was it impossible
to get more than tiny inserts without a target sequence?

Any help is welcome.

Matthias

-- 
Matthias Engel
University of Saarland
Dept. of Human Genetics
Homburg, Germany

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From: "Lars Komorowski" <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de>
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Subject: Starch detectio with iodine
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:25:47 +0100
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I want to detect starch on agar plates (as the sole carbon source) with
iodine. Has anyone got an idea of how high the starch concentration has to
be in order to identify plaques around a colony ? Or is there a better way
to detect starch degradation on plates ?
Lars



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