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Research Assistant Professor (Postdoctoral Fellowship) in Metalloprotein
Research.

A Postdoctoral position in the area of design and characterization of
artificial metalloproteins is available in the Department of Chemistry,
Technical University of Denmark. The position is for 1 year with a
possible extension for an additional year.

We are seeking a highly motivated individual to join a team working on
characterization of artificial metalloproteins based on rational design. A
recent Ph.D degree and a strong background in purification and handling of
metalloproteins is required. The preferred candidate should have a broad
expertise and interest in metalloprotein characterization, e.g. structural
and spectroscopic techniques such as mass spectrometry, EXAFS, crystal
structure determination, NMR and ESR, and development of catalytic assays.

Candidates must send a list of their publications and the work they wish
to be included in the evaluation. The evaluation committee may request
further information or documentation.

We request that the application be written in English, in view of the
possibility of foreigner being member of the evaluation committee.

The Technical University of Denmark seeks an improved gender balance and
therefore invites both women and men to apply.

The appointment is salaried in accordance with a collective agreement with
the relevant trade union and there is granted an annual bonus, which at
present amounts to DKK. 37.600,00. 

Applications will be considered according to the regulations of the
Ministry of Education, 9 September 1993 and will be submitted to an
evaluation committee. The recommendations of the committee will be
forwarded in full to all applicants.

For further information, please contact Hans E. M. Christensen, telephone
+45 45 25 23 47 or email hemc@kemi.dtu.dk.

Applicants should send their application, and enclosures, all in
triplicate, to:

Head of Department
Inger Sotofte
Department of Chemistry
Building 207
Technical University of Denmark 
2800 Lyngby, Denmark.

The closing date for application is 28 August 1998 at noon local time.


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Subject: Blotting onto PVDF
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Has anyone had any problems Western blotting onto PVDF in CAPS buffer? I am
trying to get a sequence on my protein and it appears that the efficiency
of transfer is letting me down. Could it be the buffer, (10mM CAPS, 10%
methanol, pH 11) ? I have had no problems blotting onto nitrocellulose
using tris-glycine buffers.

Thanks for your time

Karen Spink

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From: "Lars Komorowski" <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de>
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I am trying to overexpress a 17kDa-Protein in E.coli BL21 with Novagens
pET24a Vector. I inocculate my LB medium from an overnight culture, let the
culture grow until the OD reaches 0.6 and induce with 1 mM IPTG. After one
night there is a band at 25 kDa in SDS-PAGE made with total cell protein.
When I try to separate cytosolic proteins from the rest and make another
SDS-PAGE with both fractions there is no band there.
I have two questions:
1. If the protein band is not the desired protein what can it be ?
2. If the band represents the protein, is it possible that it is proteolysed
within minutes ?



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david pryce wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if there are any "cheap" alternatives to using milk > powder as a blocking agent 

A former boss of mine swore by fish skin gelatine, a liquid of the
colour and consitency of used motor oil, but freely soluble in PBS. The
stuff is available from Sigma, but be carefull: their bottle cap is ill
designed and you won't be able to open it a second time. BSA or common
gelatine are also possible.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 02 23:00:00 1998
From: Cornelius Krasel <krasel@wpxx02.toxi.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Subject: Re: pEt-Expression-Mystery
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Lars Komorowski <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de> wrote:
> I am trying to overexpress a 17kDa-Protein in E.coli BL21 with Novagens
> pET24a Vector. I inoculate my LB medium from an overnight culture, let the
> culture grow until the OD reaches 0.6 and induce with 1 mM IPTG. After one
> night there is a band at 25 kDa in SDS-PAGE made with total cell protein.

If your protein is unstable, it will not survive overnight induction.
Can you detect your protein by western blotting?

--Cornelius.

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I have a number of peptide and oligo synthesizers and sequencers for =
sale:

	Licor 4200S-2 two-laser Sequencer, 4 mos. old
	Licor 4000L sequencer, ~$30K
	PerSeptive 9050, ~$6K
	PerSeptive Expedite 8909, <=3D $14K
	ABI 394, rebuilt, warranteed, Oligonet-ready, ~$12K
	ABI 394, rebuilt, warranteed, non-Oligonet, ~$11K
	ABI 391, rebuilt, warranteed, $7K
	ABI 430, rebuilt, warranteed, ~$12K
	ABI 431, ~$14K
	ABI 432 Synergy
	ABI 433, rebuilt by ABI, warranteed, < $40K
	ABI 373 classic, $10,500
	ABI 373 stretch, 5-filter, 36-lane, $29K
	ABI 477, <=3D $10K
	ABI Catalyst 800
	ABI 120, 130, $2.5K

[We rebuild valve blocks for ABI 430, 431 and 39x @ $65/port, 90-day =
warranty]

also:

LC-MS:
	Finnigan TSQ 7000, ~$200K
	Fisons VG 2000, <$100K
	Finnigan MAT 900, <$50K
	Finnigan MAT 90, ~$45K
=09
MALDI-TOF:
	HP, masses to 500 KDa, lightly used, <=3D$60K
	Finnigan Laser MAT 2000, <$40K

Other expensive hi-tech items:
	Bio-Dot sub-microliter 8-channel aspirate/dispense system (typically =
96-well microplate source, glass slide, microwell plate or membrane =
target), < 1 year old
	Molecular Devices 445SI-MAC Phosphorimager, ~ 3 years old, currently =
operating and under maintenance contact

	I also have available a few other synthesizers and sequencers and a =
wide selection of HPLCs, mass specs, robots and other lab instruments.

	Please contact me to discuss any of these items, or if you have any =
items you might like to sell.

Michael Sherrell
Grizzly Analytical (USA)
707 887 2919/fax 707 887 9834
www.grizzlyanalytical.com


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From: "Dr E. Buxbaum" <EB15@le.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Blotting onto PVDF
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Karen spink wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had any problems Western blotting onto PVDF in CAPS buffer? I am
> trying to get a sequence on my protein and it appears that the efficiency
> of transfer is letting me down. Could it be the buffer, (10mM CAPS, 10%
> methanol, pH 11) ? I have had no problems blotting onto nitrocellulose
> using tris-glycine buffers.

It may be the high detergent concentration which is causing problems. If
you want to avoid the glycine, why not use Dunn's buffer (published in
Anal. Biochem. a couple of years back, NaHCO3/Na2CO3, which can be
supplemented with methanol or SDS as needed). I use it routinely
(because I found the transfer efficiency better than with tris-gly, and
also because it is a lot cheaper).

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From: murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au (Roger Murphy)
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Subject: T-cell epitope prediction
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 98 01:29:09 GMT
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Can anyone point me towards software that can predict T-cell epitopes, either 
web-based, shareware, or commercial?

Thanks in advance!  (Please also reply to my email)

Roger Murphy



Roger Murphy, Ph.D.
Biological Production Facility
Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research
Austin & Repatriation Medical Centre
Studley Road,
Heidelberg,  Vic. 3084
Australia.

Tel  61-3-94965463
Fax  61-3-94965436
Email murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au

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>If your protein is unstable, it will not survive overnight induction.
>Can you detect your protein by western blotting?
>
>--Cornelius.


No, I can not. But I find a very huge band at 25kDa and it is
IPTG-dependant.



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From: "Julianne M. Braun" <braunjm4@wfu.edu>
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To: "Dr E. Buxbaum" <EB15@le.ac.uk>, EB15@le.ac.uk

I just purchased some fish skin gelatin from Sigma.  Any suggestions on how to store the stuff so that it
can be opened more than once?  Is the problem with the bottle related to the gelatin acting as a glue to
stick the cap to the bottle?  TIA.

Julianne M. Braun

Dr E. Buxbaum wrote:

> A former boss of mine swore by fish skin gelatine, a liquid of the
> colour and consitency of used motor oil, but freely soluble in PBS. The
> stuff is available from Sigma, but be carefull: their bottle cap is ill
> designed and you won't be able to open it a second time. BSA or common
> gelatine are also possible.




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From: pxpst2@SPAM.SUXS.unixs.cis.pitt.edu (Peter)
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Subject: Re: T-cell epitope prediction
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In article <bpmurray*STUFFER*-0408980200140001@macmac-2.ucsf.edu>,
bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu (Bernard P. Murray, PhD) wrote:

> In article <6q5rf8$gch$1@izvestia.its.unimelb.edu.au>,
> murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au (Roger Murphy) wrote:
> 
> > Can anyone point me towards software that can predict T-cell epitopes,
either 
> > web-based, shareware, or commercial? 
> > Thanks in advance!  (Please also reply to my email)
> > Roger Murphy
> 
> You don't say what platform on which you intend to use it
> but if DOS will do I have used a program called EPIPLOT that
> I grabbed from the EMBL fileserver
> eg. ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/dos/epiplot$.exe

Just out of curiousity, How good is that program at such a prediction?
Does it come close to accurate predictions?

Peter

-- 
"Don't you eat that yellow snow
            watch out where the Huskies go"    FZ

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Lars Komorowski <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de> wrote:
>>If your protein is unstable, it will not survive overnight induction.
>>Can you detect your protein by western blotting?
> 
> No, I can not. But I find a very huge band at 25kDa and it is
> IPTG-dependant.

Have you looked for this band in cells which were transformed with
empty pET vector? This is usually the best control since induced
beta-galactosidase, T4 RNA polymerase etc. will show up there as
well.

--Cornelius.

-- 
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From: bpmurray*STUFFER*@socrates.ucsf.edu (Bernard P. Murray, PhD)
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Subject: Re: T-cell epitope prediction
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In article <6q5rf8$gch$1@izvestia.its.unimelb.edu.au>,
murphy_r@licre.ludwig.edu.au (Roger Murphy) wrote:

> Can anyone point me towards software that can predict T-cell epitopes, either 
> web-based, shareware, or commercial? 
> Thanks in advance!  (Please also reply to my email)
> Roger Murphy

You don't say what platform on which you intend to use it
but if DOS will do I have used a program called EPIPLOT that
I grabbed from the EMBL fileserver
eg. ftp://ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/software/dos/epiplot$.exe

If this isn't exactly what you want there may be something
else for you on that server.
     It may also be worth a look at ExPasy to see if their
web server has this facility (http://expasy.hcuge.ch)
     If you don't receive any useful replies here you may
wish to try bionet.software as another newsgroup.
     I hope that this helps,
          Bernard
-- 
Bernard P. Murray, PhD
Dept. Cell. Mol. Pharmacol., UCSF, San Francisco, USA

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check out D. Doonan
protocols in protein purification
part of the humana press spiral bound series
...loads of practical tips that work
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I was wondering if anyone know of a databse where protein/DNA sequences
could be submitted and analyzed for the presence of SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4,
proline-rich domains, etc..

Thanks, Sid

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From: srikrishnan <srman@gengenp.rug.ac.be>
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Subject: Re: Blotting onto PVDF
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Dr E. Buxbaum wrote:
> 
> Karen spink wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone had any problems Western blotting onto PVDF in CAPS buffer? I am
> > trying to get a sequence on my protein and it appears that the efficiency
> > of transfer is letting me down. Could it be the buffer, (10mM CAPS, 10%
> > methanol, pH 11) ? I have had no problems blotting onto nitrocellulose
> > using tris-glycine buffers.
> 
> It may be the high detergent concentration which is causing problems. If
> you want to avoid the glycine, why not use Dunn's buffer (published in
> Anal. Biochem. a couple of years back, NaHCO3/Na2CO3, which can be
> supplemented with methanol or SDS as needed). I use it routinely
> (because I found the transfer efficiency better than with tris-gly, and
> also because it is a lot cheaper).

hi karen,
i read about your problems with caps buffer, we too here in the lab used
this buffer , but i also tried to blot on pvdf with tris glycine buffer
and it works good too.
try it and let me know.
krish

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Dear reader,

I'm a Medicine student in Portugal, and I would like to know if anyone can
tell me something about protein overload effects, after protein ingestion,
in the liver.

Thanks in advance,

Retrieve message to: rjtribeiro@mail.telepac.pt

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From: mlamkin@bu.edu (Mark Lamkin)
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In article <i.mcfarlane-2807981850060001@mac017044.guys.icnet.uk>, i.mcfarlane@icrf.icnet.uk (Ian McFarlane) wrote:
>Once upon a time somebody mentioned that there was some trick with
>dialysis tubing and vaccuum that could be performed to concentrate
>proteins (flash dialysis?). Does anyone know how to do this or is my
>memory failing me?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ian Mc
 It's been a while since I did it but as I recall my vacuum dialysis set was 
as follows:

Use an empty vacuum flask and rubber stopper with two large holes. Put one 
P1000 pipette tip (with end melted) in one hole in the stopper as a plug. You 
will want to use this to release the vacuum when you are finished. Fill the 
dialysis tubing with your sample leaving one end open. Slip it up through 
the second hole in the stopper. Now use the other pipette tip (P1000) with its 
tapered end cut off and slip it in open end of the tubing and press it tight 
in the stopper hole. The dialysis tubing should be in the flask and now you 
apply vacuum using a water aspirator. Buffer will be drawn out of the 
membrane and into the flask. You can continue to add more sample to the 
dialysis membrane through the pipette tip.

Mark Lamkin

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From: srikrishnan <srman@gengenp.rug.ac.be>
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hi readers,
i would like to know if anyone has used fad as cofactor to do enzyme
activity from crude extracts or has anyone tried in gel staining with
native proteins.
i would really apprecite if someone can help me in this regard.
krish

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In article <6qced1$3f4_002@doit.wisc.edu>,
Dima Klenchin <klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu> wrote:
>
>As far as I know, the density of all proteins is ~ the same. Hence, if you

	and I *think* the density of typical proteins is about 1.3 g/mL.
maybe Creighton or Lehninger has a more precise figure.
-- 
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Brian Keith wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone know of a databse where protein/DNA sequences
> could be submitted and analyzed for the presence of SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4,
> proline-rich domains, etc..

Yes, you can find all of this at

http://www.isrec.isb-sib.ch/software/PFSCAN_form.html


===========================================================
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From: Mayank Bhalla <sar96mb@reading.ac.uk>
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Subject: His tagged protein expression
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:27:22 +0100
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Hi,

I am trying to express a 15 kDa protozoan protein as a His tag fusion in
Qiagen's pQE30 vector. My problem is that the protein is being expressed
as a trimer (possibly!?) as the over expressed protein appears to be about
45 kDa on the SDS-PAGE. This high molecular weight protein gets purified
on the Ni-NTA resin supplied by Qiagen.
Can any one offer ideas so as to why it may be happening and what can I do
to get the protein of the right size? I have confirmed the construct by
sequencing the whole of the insert and the junctions.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks

Mayank



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If the protein is non-covalently linked as a trimer the SDS will (almost
certainly!) denature it - ie the protein will run as monomer on the gel.
However, if the polypeptide chains are disulphide linked then you will
have to reduce these (covalent) bonds to observe the monomer molecular
weight on your gel:  
To reduce the disulphide bonds the best plan is to use a mercaptan (eg.
mercaptoethanol: HSCH2CH2OH - smells like farts/eggs though! ) in your
gel.   These are usually used in "denaturing" gels - check your recipie.
If there is a disulphide-reducing agent in your gel then some weird
stuff is going on (have you checked to see if the nucleotide sequence
has been inserted more than once, ie the protein is being expressed as
three repeats of the sequence, - sorry I am not a molecular biologist
so I may be talking out of my ****/patronising you - but cannot think
what else may be happening!).
Let me know how you get on and good luck.

Matt Hicks
University of Sussex
Falmer
East Sussex
UK


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Dr. Christian Kupfer wrote:

> I have some EM-Pictures of protein-komplexes bound to DNA.
> I can determine the size of the proteins in angstroms, because
> I know the size of the DNA.
>
> Is there anybody who can tell me how to determine the molecular
> mass just by knowing the radius in angstroms? Or is there any good
> review/ book out there where I can find answers?
>
> thanks in advance
>
>         christian

 You could get a rough estimate by assuming close packing in the protein
to calculate the expected number of heavy atoms and then plug in an
average heavy atom mass (14 is probably a good number).  Note that this
will only give you only an estimate of the mass (maybe to an order of
magnitude?).

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Hi everybody,

who can tell me something about the method
Far Western Blotting   ?

Thanks

Chris


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I have some EM-Pictures of protein-komplexes bound to DNA.
I can determine the size of the proteins in angstroms, because
I know the size of the DNA.

Is there anybody who can tell me how to determine the molecular 
mass just by knowing the radius in angstroms? Or is there any good 
review/ book out there where I can find answers?

thanks in advance

	christian

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In article <35C98E51.7F7C@uni-koeln.de>, "Dr. Christian Kupfer" <christian.kupfer@uni-koeln.de> wrote:
>I have some EM-Pictures of protein-komplexes bound to DNA.
>I can determine the size of the proteins in angstroms, because
>I know the size of the DNA.
>
>Is there anybody who can tell me how to determine the molecular 
>mass just by knowing the radius in angstroms? Or is there any good 
>review/ book out there where I can find answers?

As far as I know, the density of all proteins is ~ the same. Hence, if you
know dimensions (is it _really_ sphere?), you know mass. 

        Dima

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Lars Komorowski wrote:
> 
> I am trying to overexpress a 17kDa-Protein in E.coli BL21 with Novagens
> pET24a Vector. I inocculate my LB medium from an overnight culture, let the
> culture grow until the OD reaches 0.6 and induce with 1 mM IPTG. After one
> night there is a band at 25 kDa in SDS-PAGE made with total cell protein.
> When I try to separate cytosolic proteins from the rest and make another
> SDS-PAGE with both fractions there is no band there.
> I have two questions:
> 1. If the protein band is not the desired protein what can it be ?
> 2. If the band represents the protein, is it possible that it is proteolysed
> within minutes ?


Hi Lars,

It is certainly possible that your 17 kD protein appears as a 25 kD on a
SDS gel since there are many reports about that (the reason can be that
your 17 kD protein is basic or acidic).
I dont know what your protocol is to separate the cytosolic proteins
from the rest but can it be that your expressed protein is insoluble
(mybe forming inclusion bodies)? If your prepare a crude cell extract
and centrifuge afterwards the protein may precipitate. Load the
supernatant and the pellet on the gel. The insoluble protein should
appear in the pellet.

Regards

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From: Gerald Loeffler <Gerald.Loeffler@vienna.at>
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Hi!

These are some important protein domain servers that should contain the
Shn domains as well as many others:

http://www.sanger.ac.uk/Software/Pfam/

and

http://www.isrec.isb-sib.ch/software/PFSCAN_form.html

and

http://www.bork.embl-heidelberg.de/Modules/sinput.shtml

and

http://www.biochem.ucl.ac.uk/bsm/dbbrowser/PRINTS/PRINTS.html

and

http://www.blocks.fhcrc.org/blocks_search.html

	hope this helps,
	best wishes,
	gerald

Brian Keith wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone know of a databse where protein/DNA sequences
> could be submitted and analyzed for the presence of SH1, SH2, SH3, SH4,
> proline-rich domains, etc..
> 
> Thanks, Sid

-- 
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Hi,
I am wondering if it is possible to S-35 Methionine label yeast cells?
I want to label cells, prepare extracts, immunoprecipitate a 
ribonuclear-protein complex and run the protein content out on an SDS 
gel. Because the protein content will not be detectable by 
silver-staining, I hope the Methinine labelled proteins will be 
visable after exposure to film. 
Do you know if this approach has been used before? If so, have you any 
recent publications on it?
Please, if you could mail me at brackena@tcd.ie it would be great, 

Thanks a million, Adrian Bracken

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Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Release 7 of TrEMBL, the protein sequence database supplementing SWISS-PROT
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INTRODUCTION
============

TrEMBL is the protein sequence database supplementing the SWISS-PROT
Protein Sequence Data Bank. TrEMBL contains the translations of all
coding sequences (CDS) present in the EMBL Nucleotide Sequence
Database not yet integrated in SWISS-PROT. TrEMBL can be considered
as a preliminary section of SWISS-PROT. For all TrEMBL entries
which should finally be upgraded to the standard SWISS-PROT
quality, SWISS-PROT accession numbers have been assigned.


RELEASE 7.0 OF TREMBL
=====================

This TrEMBL release is created from the EMBL Nucleotide Sequence
Database release 55 and contains 193'860 sequence entries,
comprising 53'601'062 amino acids.

TrEMBL is split in two main sections; SP-TrEMBL and REM-TrEMBL:

SP-TrEMBL (SWISS-PROT TrEMBL) contains the entries (165'420), which
should be eventually incorporated into SWISS-PROT. SWISS-PROT
accession numbers have been assigned for all SP-TrEMBL entries.

SP-TrEMBL is organized in subsections:

arc.dat (Archea):               7434 entries
fun.dat (Fungi):                5261 entries
hum.dat (Human):                6976 entries
inv.dat (Invertebrates):       21991 entries
mam.dat (Other Mammals):        2684 entries
mhc.dat (MHC proteins):         3601 entries
org.dat (Organelles):          12699 entries
phg.dat (Bacteriophages):       1604 entries
pln.dat (Plants):              12668 entries
pro.dat (Prokaryotes):         35857 entries
rod.dat (Rodents):              6346 entries
unc.dat (Unclassified):           88 entries
vrl.dat (Viruses):             44561 entries
vrt.dat (Other Vertebrates):    3650 entries

REM-TrEMBL (REMaining TrEMBL) contains the entries (28'440) that we do
not want to include in SWISS-PROT.


WEEKLY UPDATES OF TREMBL AND NON-REDUNDANT DATA SETS
====================================================
Weekly cumulative updates of TrEMBL are available by anonymous FTP and
from the EBI SRS server.
We also produce every week a complete non-redundant protein sequence
collection by providing three compressed files (these are in the
directory /pub/databases/sp_tr_nrdb on the EBI FTP server):
sprot.dat.Z, trembl.dat.Z and trembl_new.dat.Z.


ACCESS/DATA DISTRIBUTION
========================

FTP server:     ftp.ebi.ac.uk/pub/databases/trembl
SRS server:     http://srs.ebi.ac.uk/

TrEMBL is also available on the SWISS-PROT CD-ROM.
SWISS-PROT + TrEMBL is searchable on the following servers at the EBI:
FASTA3  (http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/fasta3/)
BLAST2  (http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/blast2/)
Bic_sw  (http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/bic_sw/)
Scanps  (http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/scanps/)
SSearch (http://www2.ebi.ac.uk/ssearch3/)



TREMBL HAS BEEN PREPARED BY:
============================

Rolf Apweiler, Sergio Contrino, Wolfgang Fleischmann, Henning Hermjakob,

Vivien Junker, Stephanie Kappus, Fiona Lang, Michele Magrane, Maria
Jesus Martin, Steffen Moeller, Nicoletta Mitaritonna and Claire
O'Donovan at the EMBL Outstation - European Bioinformatics Institute
(EBI) in Hinxton, UK;
Amos Bairoch and Alain Gateau at the Swiss Institute of Bioinformatics
in Geneva, Switzerland.


=======================================================================
Rolf Apweiler                           | SWISS-PROT Coordinator
EMBL Outstation                         | Email:apweiler@ebi.ac.uk
European Bioinformatics Institute (EBI) | URL:  http://www.ebi.ac.uk
Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton   | Tel:  +44 (1223) 494435
Cambridge CB10 1SD, UK                  | Fax:  +44 (1223) 494968
========================================================================





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From: PGegen@UKans.edu (Dr. Peter Gegenheimer)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Electron microscopy of proteins
Date: 7 Aug 1998 23:38:24 GMT
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On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:25:37, 
klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin) wrote:

> In article <35C98E51.7F7C@uni-koeln.de>, "Dr. Christian Kupfer" <christian.kupfer@uni-koeln.de> wrote:

--- snip ---
> >Is there anybody who can tell me how to determine the molecular 
> >mass just by knowing the radius in angstroms? Or is there any good 
> >review/ book out there where I can find answers?
> 
> As far as I know, the density of all proteins is ~ the same. Hence, if you
> know dimensions (is it _really_ sphere?), you know mass. 

Another response gave protein density as ~1.3 g/ml. This refers to 
the *buoyant* density (theta) of protein (e.g., in solutions of 
CsCl, etc.). This is not the same as the physical density (rho), 
which is the reciprocal of the partial specific volume (nu). 

I looked around for a value of nu and couldn't find one--it should 
be in any biological physical chemistry text. I did have at hand ME 
Hamilton, Meth Enz. 20:512-521 (1971). This gives a value for 
anhydrous ribosomal protein of nu=0.74, said to have been calculated
from the amino acid composition. The corresponding density=1.35 
g/ml. I have no idea how to calculate this, but the partial specific
volumes of amino acids are not secret. 

(For the same protein in Cs salt solutions, an extrapolated value of
nu=~0.8, so density=1.25. My understanding is that a protein's 
apparent density will decrease as it is solvated by H2O, and 
increase as it binds various salts.) 

Density of 1.30 corresponds to nu=0.77, 1.32 to nu=0.76, and 1.33 to
nu=0.75. My bottom line would be that using a density of 1.33 g/ml 
(nu=0.75) would be a reasonable estimate. 

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Subject: Re: pEt-Expression-Mystery
Date: 7 Aug 1998 23:57:32 GMT
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On Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:29:49, "Lars Komorowski" 
<larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de> wrote:

> I am trying to overexpress a 17kDa-Protein in E.coli BL21 with Novagens
> pET24a Vector. I inocculate my LB medium from an overnight culture, let the
> culture grow until the OD reaches 0.6 and induce with 1 mM IPTG. After one
> night there is a band at 25 kDa in SDS-PAGE made with total cell protein.
> When I try to separate cytosolic proteins from the rest and make another
> SDS-PAGE with both fractions there is no band there.

An another poster answered, it is common that overexpressed proteins
will aggregate into insoluble "inclusion bodies". If you were really
just examining the soluble cell fraction by SDS-PAGE, examine the 
cell debris. (If the protein is there, the cell debris ought to be a
big white pellet.) The lesson from this is that when you think 
you've lost something, make sure you've accounted for 100% of the 
places where it could be--no matter how unlikely. 

If the protein is in the pellet, you can get a reasonable 
purification by washing the pellet to remove trapped cytoplasmic 
protein. Homogenize the pellet (in tris/edta/NaCl or whatever you're
using for cell lysis) and spin it back down; repeat 1-2X.] Addition 
of Triton or sarkosyl would help remove membrane proteins. 

Inclusion proteins are formed when nascent polypeptides don't fold 
completely, and the exposed "interior" regions, which are usually 
hydrophobic, of only polypeptide associate with adjacent polypeptide
chains rather than with their "own" chain. 

To avoid inclusion body formation, two methods which have been 
well-documented in the literature to work _sometimes_ are: 1) Induce
your target gene to a very low-level; use 10-100 micromolar IPTG and
let the cells incubate (plenty of aeration!) for a day or more. 2) 
Grow the cells below room temperature--15 to 19C--just prior to and 
during induction. 

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Subject: Re: pEt-Expression-Mystery
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In article <6q3sl4$dmt$1@gwsun.medinf.mu-luebeck.de> , "Lars Komorowski"
<larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de> wrote:

>I am trying to overexpress a 17kDa-Protein in E.coli BL21 with Novagens
>pET24a Vector. I inocculate my LB medium from an overnight culture, let the
>culture grow until the OD reaches 0.6 and induce with 1 mM IPTG. After one
>night there is a band at 25 kDa in SDS-PAGE made with total cell protein.
>When I try to separate cytosolic proteins from the rest and make another
>SDS-PAGE with both fractions there is no band there.
>I have two questions:
>1. If the protein band is not the desired protein what can it be ?
>2. If the band represents the protein, is it possible that it is proteolysed
>within minutes ?
>
>
1)  You probably should experiment with induction times and induction
temperatures.  Even when I express very stable proteins using the pET system
in BL-21 cells, I only induce for 3 hours maximum.  You may even try 1.5
hours at 30 degrees.

2)  Some proteins migrate differently than expected.  Ususally highly
cationic peptides will migrate slower in the gel, appearing as higher
molecular weight.  This variance in apparent MW can be as much as 50%.

3)  Has this protein been successfully expressed before?  Have you verified
the sequence?



_______________________________________
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Salk Institute for Biological Studies
RBIO-J
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From: deleteme_cpeter@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Peter)
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Subject: On-line dialysis for chromatography?
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Hi All!

I am looking for a gadget to change the buffer-composition in the
effluent of a chromatographic column - on-line!

Who knows names, web-pages etc.?

Somebody told me he used something like that for FIA - any idea?


TIA

Christoph
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From: deleteme_cpeter@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Peter)
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Subject: BCA-Protein-Quantification: Time Drive?
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Hi all!

I use the bicinchoninic-acid-assay in a 96well format to
determine/estimate protein concentrations. I always have a
standard-dilution-row on every plate.

When I tried to determine the concentration of a simple yeast-extract,
I noted the following:

- the slope of the calibration-line (mg as a function of A550)
decreases with time (15min to 3hrs)

- the concentration of my extract also decreases with time!!!!
(calculated with corresponding slope!)

As the assay is designed to be read after 30min and 30degrees C - when
do I get the _correct_ concentration?????????????????

MTIA

Christoph
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PhD Student (Biotechnology)
cpeter at zedat dot fu-berlin dot de

>Alles wird gut!<(Beate)

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From: lhom@OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Hom)
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Subject: Caesar Salad
Date: 9 Aug 1998 00:54:42 GMT
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Here in the States, Salmonella contamination of eggs is a significant
problem -- significant enough that in some places it was against the law
to serve raw egg products (such as Caesar salad dressing) in restaurants.
	It is often suggested, however, that you can acidify the beaten
egg (with, e.g., lemon juice or vinegar), then heat it to a temperature
that will kill the bugs, but the egg won't get cooked.  My question:  is
increased thermostability following acidification common among proteins?
Any ideas on how it would stabilize ovalbumin?
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Lou Hom >K'93			     
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From: g3937506@STUDENT2.MAHIDOL.AC.TH (Jongrak Kittiworakarn)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: How to get rid of DNA from sample of western blot?
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Hi Platini:

If you sure that sticky thing is DNA, not carbohydrate, adding MgCl2 to
a final concantration of 100mM into your sample together with SDS-PAGE
sample buffer might be helpful. I found this method in Analytical
Biochemistry a long time ago and so far it work well for me.

Good luck,
Jongrak


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From: pxpst2@SPAM.SUXS.unixs.cis.pitt.edu (Peter)
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Subject: Re: BCA-Protein-Quantification: Time Drive?
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 14:12:58 -0500
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In article <35cab1d3.1944564@news.fu-berlin.de>,
deleteme_cpeter@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I use the bicinchoninic-acid-assay in a 96well format to
> determine/estimate protein concentrations. I always have a
> standard-dilution-row on every plate.
> 
> When I tried to determine the concentration of a simple yeast-extract,
> I noted the following:
> 
> - the slope of the calibration-line (mg as a function of A550)
> decreases with time (15min to 3hrs)
> 
> - the concentration of my extract also decreases with time!!!!
> (calculated with corresponding slope!)
> 
> As the assay is designed to be read after 30min and 30degrees C - when
> do I get the _correct_ concentration?????????????????
> 

As long as all decreases occur to all samples , It does not matter. 
Incubation of the reaction at 37 C for 30 minutes and then read should be
fine.  The key is that all are read at the same time( samples and
calibration curve)  variability will take care of itself.

Peter

-- 
"Don't you eat that yellow snow
            watch out where the Huskies go"    FZ

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From: Platini Kwok <platinik@glink.net.hk>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: How to get rid of DNA from sample of western blot?
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> Hi,
>
> Recently, I was involved in doing western blot on retina of SD rat and
> I
> found that there was a lot sticky, jelly like structure after boiling
> with TBS with SDS, triton x-100 buffer although I centrifuged it can
> sonicate the supernatant, it still here. How should I do so that I can
>
> get rid of it? These sticky material gave vertically line rather than
> horizontal band in SDS page or NC membrane.
>
> Thank you!





From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sat Aug 08 23:00:00 1998
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From: klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: BCA-Protein-Quantification: Time Drive?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:05:35 GMT
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In article <35cab1d3.1944564@news.fu-berlin.de>, 
deleteme_cpeter@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>I use the bicinchoninic-acid-assay in a 96well format to
>determine/estimate protein concentrations. I always have a
>standard-dilution-row on every plate.
>
>When I tried to determine the concentration of a simple yeast-extract,
>I noted the following:
>
>- the slope of the calibration-line (mg as a function of A550)
>decreases with time (15min to 3hrs)
>
>- the concentration of my extract also decreases with time!!!!
>(calculated with corresponding slope!)
>
>As the assay is designed to be read after 30min and 30degrees C - when
>do I get the _correct_ concentration?????????????????

Anywhere it is convenient for you! That's what calibration curve is for. 
I, for example, to achive higher sensitivity, do the following: 1) put twice 
recommended copper (Pierce's BCA kit), 2) leave samples
for 3 hours at 50C. Works like a charm. Quite frankly, I have difficult time 
understanding how and where the color that forms in BCA reaction can 
disappear with time.

        - Dima



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 09 23:00:00 1998
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From: "S.Kammerer" <bsx404@bangor.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: enzyme assay
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:16:32 +0100
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I want to do an elastase enzyme assay with a protease. I tried to stop
the reaction with hydrogen chloride but the colour of the solution
changed and therefore I can not quantify the reaction.

I would like to know how to stop my reaction at regular time to process
a kinetics study.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 09 23:00:00 1998
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From: Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <eb15@le.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: S-35 Methionine labelling yeast cells?
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:33:44 -0700
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Adrian Bracken wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am wondering if it is possible to S-35 Methionine label yeast cells?

You can label proteins in any actively metabolizing organism by
incubatin in a medium without "cold" Met (or Cys) by adding the labeled
amino acid (there are mixtures of 35-S Met and Cys available which are
cheaper and offer better labeling than either aa alone). Incubate the
cells for an appropriate amount of time (try a time series with a small
amount first, say 10 min to 2-3 h). The correct time depends on the sort
of protein (synthesis and turnover rates, posttranslational processing
ect). 

Avoid complex mixtures of aa like pepton, yeast extract, serum ect in
the medium as they would dilute the radioactivity.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 09 23:00:00 1998
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From: "Lars Komorowski" <larskomo@physik.mu-luebeck.de>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: pET-Expression Mystery - The Sequel
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:10:07 +0100
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Indeed the protein which I am trying to express is very acidic - pI is
4-4.5 - and I am certain that there are no inclusion bodies during my
expression because the pellet doesn't look like those from other expressions
which form inclusion bodies (white an huge). So one could guess that the
protein is disintegrated during purification which seems to be very fast
since the purifaction takes only 2 hours. Who has experienced similar things
?



From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 09 23:00:00 1998
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From: thorn@itsa.ucsf.edu (Kurt Thorn)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins,bionet.xtallography
Subject: 6xHis vs. 8xHis in Dictyostelium
Date: 10 Aug 1998 20:37:18 GMT
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Hello.

I am trying to purify a 380 kDa recombinant protein from Dictyostelium for
crystallography.  I have been using a 6xHis tagged protein and have been
having a lot of trouble with poor binding capacities of the metal resin and
lots of contamination of the eluted product.  
Lately I have heard that 8x or 10x His tags work better than 6x His tags
for organisms with lots of his-rich proteins (like Dicty).  Can anybody
give me references or personal experiences of working with these larger
tags?  Any other tips on difficult his-tag purifications are welcome.

Thanks,
Kurt

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Sun Aug 09 23:00:00 1998
From: Platini Kwok <platinik@glink.net.hk>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: What is the major factor to affect the immunostaining of cytochrome C on embryo of ICR
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:31:16 +0800
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Hi,

Recently, I was involved in the immunostaining of cytochrome c in embryo

tissue. The tissue was fixed in 4% paraformaldehyde and dehydrated in
graded alcohol, xylene and finally it was embared in wax block. It is
found that only few positive signals were found in heart and bone tissue

of 14.5 dpc of ICR embryo. My question are listed as follows
1. Will the embaring process destroy the antigen (cytochrome c)?
2. The antibody is rightly selected for "native protein" rather than
denaturing protein which is usually done by SDS. Am I right?
3. there is negative signal in liver tissue which was expected to find a

great deal of signal because live is a detoxification organ and it was
expected very metabolic active.

thank you for your advice!

Platini (Anatomy, CUHK, HK)




From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 11 23:00:00 1998
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From: Alex Hutagalung <ah692010@bcm.tmc.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Transient protein interactions
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:34:13 -0500
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Hi!
Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
proteins that transiently interact?  Any suggestions would be terrific.
Thank you.

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 12 23:00:00 1998
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:45:51 +0200
From: David Humair <David.Humair@bota.unine.ch>
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Dear Christian,

The idea of far western blot is like a western blot , but your probe is
not an antibody but a protein which is supposed to have an interaction
with your protein. This method allows you to check interactions between
proteins.
I can have a protocol

Good luck

David
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 12 23:00:00 1998
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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Wed Aug 12 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!METHYLGENE.COM!liz
From: liz@METHYLGENE.COM (liz)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: help! binding to nickle column
Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:24:33 -0700
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I am trying to bind a 180 KDa protein with a His tag to a nickle column
(invitrogen) but most of the protein comes out in the flow through.  I
have tried both native and denaturing conditions.  Can anybody offer any
suggestions?

From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 13 23:00:00 1998
Path: biosci!YAHOO.COM!rjdudley
From: rjdudley@YAHOO.COM ("Richard J. Dudley")
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: help! binding to nickle column
Date: 14 Aug 1998 05:45:15 -0700
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---liz <liz@METHYLGENE.COM> wrote:
>
> I am trying to bind a 180 KDa protein with a His tag to a nickle
column
> (invitrogen) but most of the protein comes out in the flow through.  I
> have tried both native and denaturing conditions.  Can anybody offer
any
> suggestions?

Make sure there is no EDTA nor ionic detergents in your protein
suspension.

Also, search these archives at www.bio.net; this problem comes up a lot.

rich
==
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Dept. of Cell Biology and Physiology
The University of Pittsburgh
->biosci archives can be searched at www.bio.net <-

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Thu Aug 13 23:00:00 1998
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From: Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <eb15@le.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Transient protein interactions
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:02:33 -0700
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Alex Hutagalung wrote:

> Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
> proteins that transiently interact?  Any suggestions would be terrific.
> Thank you.

Crosslinking with bifunctional reagent (check Pierce catalogue for a
good selection). Emanescent wave detectors (like a Pharmacia BiaCore).
Analytical ultracentrifugation or gelchromatography. A genetic approach
would be the yeast two hybrid system. Low angle laser light scattering
or neutron scattering. Radiation target size analysis (not my prefered
option, though). You may try to grow crystals of the associated proteins
(if that actually works, it would be the ideal solution). CD spectrum of
the protein complex may differe from what is expected from a mixture of
the two proteins, indication conformational changes upon binding.

Well, at least that's what I can think of at the top of my head. Get a
good book on physical biochemistry, and you may find further options.

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From: Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <eb15@le.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: What is the major factor to affect the immunostaining of cytochrome C on embryo of ICR
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Platini Kwok wrote:
 
> Recently, I was involved in the immunostaining of cytochrome c in embryo
> tissue. The tissue was fixed in 4% paraformaldehyde and dehydrated in
> graded alcohol, xylene and finally it was embared in wax block. It is
> found that only few positive signals were found in heart and bone tissue

The harsh treatment during tissue processing may or may not prevent
proper staining of an antigen. The risk is obviously greatest with
monoclonal antibodies, which have only a single binding epitope.
Polyclonal antibodies, with their multiple binding sites, are less
susceptible. 

There are several ways to control for this effect. One is to use frozen
sections from unfixed tissues instead of parafine embedding. This avoids
a lot of the denaturing processes. The second experiment you can perform
is to carefully trypsinize the sections before antibody exposure to
recover blocked antigenic sites. Works sometimes and sometimes not.
Briefly microwaving sections in citrate buffer has also been suggested
for this purpose. If you want to know only wether a particular antigen
is present in a particular tissue, rather than its subcellular
localisation, you may try immunoprecipitation of tissue homogenisates
instead of immunocytochemistry. Also, it may be worthwhile to do your
experiments with several different antibodies (there should be enough
available for a popular protein like cytochrome c).

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From: "Antonin Tutter" <atutter@aim.salk.edu>
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>Hi!
>Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
>proteins that transiently interact?  Any suggestions would be terrific.
>Thank you.

That's tough.  Often transient interactions are not detectable by Far
western or other more traditional assays.  How about UV crosslinking?  You
haven't mentioned whether this is between two recombinant proteins, or one
recombinant protein and an extract, or what...  I couldn't suggest a
protocol, but I'm sure there's a lot of literature on UV crosslinking of
proteins.


_______________________________________
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Salk Institute for Biological Studies
RBIO-J
10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd.
La Jolla, CA  92037
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>I am trying to bind a 180 KDa protein with a His tag to a nickle column
>(invitrogen) but most of the protein comes out in the flow through.  I
>have tried both native and denaturing conditions.  Can anybody offer any
>suggestions?

Have you checked your buffering conditions during binding to make sure they
are not reducing the Ni++?  Make sure the pH is >7, and make sure you have
little reducing agent (<1mM DTT, <20mMM BME).




_______________________________________
Antonin Tutter
Salk Institute for Biological Studies
RBIO-J
10010 N. Torrey Pines Rd.
La Jolla, CA  92037
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From: jestone@staff.uiuc.edu (stone john e)
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Subject: VMD "Visual Molecular Dynamics" 1.2 Released
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     VMD "Visual Molecular Dynamics" 1.2 Release Announcement 
     -------------------------------------------------------- 

The Theoretical Biophysics group at the University of Illinois and the
Beckman Institute For Advanced Science and Technology is happy to
announce the availability of version 1.2 of the program VMD, a package 
for the vizualization and analysis of biomolecular systems.  
This software is being made available to the structural biology research 
community free of charge, and includes the source code for VMD, 
documentation, and precompiled binaries for IBM, HP, Linux, Sun, and SGI 
Unix systems.  The documentation includes an installation guide, a users 
guide, and a programmers guide for interested researchers.  VMD also 
provides on-line help through the use of an external HTML viewer.

A full description of VMD is available via the VMD WWW home page:
        http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/

Changes to VMD 1.2 since VMD 1.1:
---------------------------------
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 -- 1.2 beta 4 
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 -- 1.2 beta 3
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 -- 1.2 beta 1
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   stereo-lithography format)
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 =============   Basic information about VMD   =================

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  etc. It may be used to view more general molecules, as VMD can read
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The program has many features, which include:
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    Tcl package to provide full scripting capabilities.
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    their own routines for molecular analysis
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    C++, with a programmer's guide describing the source code 
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    molecular dynamics program developed in conjunction with VMD
    in the Theoretical Biophysics Group at the University of Illinois.
    See the NAMD WWW home page for more info:  
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    VMD can be used to set up and concurrently display an MD simulation
    using NAMD. The two programs, along with the intermediary communcations 
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From: klenchin@facstaff.REMOVE_TO_REPLY.wisc.edu (Dima Klenchin)
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Subject: Re: Transient protein interactions
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In article <35D1D215.CC2EB5C9@bcm.tmc.edu>, ah692010@bcm.tmc.edu wrote:
:Hi!
:Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
:proteins that transiently interact?  Any suggestions would be terrific.
:Thank you.

What exactly do you mean? In every solution, every molecule transiently 
interacts with another molecule (they hit each other and then have higher 
or lower chances of staying together for some time).

Do you mean that the association constant is so low so that 
half-time of the complex is very short? 

Or you mean that there is some high affinity interaction which
is disturbed by a third party in a timely fashion? 

The approaches, I think, would be very different. Also, it is 
important to know what system you have - in vitro or in vivo, 
whether you are dealing with pure proteins available in large 
quantities or not, etc. There are so amny ways to study 
interactions between molecules that the answer to your question
becomes impossible without knowing what's given. 

        - Dima
   

 

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From: michael.didonato@utoronto.ca (Michael DiDonato)
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Subject: Thrombin Cleavage of GST Fusions
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Does anyone know of a way to optimize thrombin cleavage of GST fusion such
that only the five base site is cleaved and not the three base sites.  I
am getting the majority of cleavage at the five base site but also some
annoying cleavage at the three base sites present in my protein.  I have
heard of using heparin in the cleavage reaction, does anyone know of this?

Any help would be appreciated.

Mike

-- 
Michael DiDonato
Structural Biology and Biochemistry
The Hospital for Sick Children
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

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From: "Aaron Lewis" <ralewis@slip.net>
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Subject: Tracking proteins?
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Does anyone have any experience (or suggestions) on how to track proteins
and pepidoglycans as they move through a food chain?   E.g., Biological
transport and fate of nutrients from speciefic sources.  We want to know
which critters in
a mixed culture are actually using the proteins (or energy from the
proteins)  from the specific nutrient source as opposed to metabolizing
other organic material in the microcosm.

The only technology we can think of is C-14 labeling.



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From: jyl@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk (Jan Lowe)
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Mike,

have a look at:

http://www.hamptonresearch.com/Misc.html#anchor100008

Jan

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In article <35D87131.CA733F5C@acpub.duke.edu>, Michael J Morales
<mmorales@acpub.duke.edu> wrote:

> I'm one of those who just can't see those stereo images of
> proteins published in journals in 3D.  Does anyone
> know where I can purchase the glasses for viewing these 
> images?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike Morales

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I'm one of those who just can't see those stereo images of
proteins published in journals in 3D.  Does anyone
know where I can purchase the glasses for viewing these 
images?

Thanks,

Mike Morales

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From: tbelbin@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tom Belbin)
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Subject: Re: help! binding to nickle column
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In article <35D34A59.62C0@methylgene.com>, liz@METHYLGENE.COM (liz) wrote:

> I am trying to bind a 180 KDa protein with a His tag to a nickle column
> (invitrogen) but most of the protein comes out in the flow through.  I
> have tried both native and denaturing conditions.  Can anybody offer any
> suggestions?

Is the tag at the N-term end?  If so, are you sure it is actually present
on the protein being expressed?

Beware of an internal start codons.  You may be getting translation
starting downstream so that the tag is not translated at all.
I speak from experience on this one.

Tom Belbin
Biochemistry Department
Memorial University of Newfoundland


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From: Dr Engelbert Buxbaum <eb15@le.ac.uk>
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Subject: Re: Tracking proteins?
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Aaron Lewis wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any experience (or suggestions) on how to track proteins
> and pepidoglycans as they move through a food chain?  
> The only technology we can think of is C-14 labeling.

There are people who use stable isotope labeling (like C-13, O-18) for
such purposes. Obviously a lot safer than radioisotopes, but you need
access to a mass spectrometer.

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From: petter@mindspring.com (Petter)
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Subject: Re: Protein dip stick
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In article <35DAF3D0.D5664525@ornl.gov>, isolan@ornl.gov wrote:

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>A friend of mine has developed a protein dip stick for rapid
>quantitation of proteins.  Is there any interest in such a product.
>
>Narayana R.Isola

depends on the accurracy i suppose

wasn't there one of these for DNA in the market at one point?

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Alex Hutagalung wrote:

> Hi!
> Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
> proteins that transiently interact?  Any suggestions would be terrific.
> Thank you.

  Hi,
in our lab we've detected transient multimeric species during the refolding
of yeast PGK using a crosslinking method with glutaraldehyde.
ref: Pecorari etal (1996) JBC 271, 5270-5276

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<BR>Could anyone please suggest the best way to show an interaction between
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terrific.
<BR>Thank you.</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp; Hi,
<BR>in our lab we've detected transient multimeric species during the refolding
of yeast PGK using a crosslinking method with glutaraldehyde.
<BR>ref: Pecorari <I>etal</I> (1996) JBC <B>271</B>, 5270-5276</HTML>

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From: isolan@ORNL.GOV ("Dr.Narayana R.Isola")
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Subject: Protein dip stick
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A friend of mine has developed a protein dip stick for rapid
quantitation of proteins.  Is there any interest in such a product.

Narayana R.Isola

isolan@ornl.gov

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From owner-proteins@net.bio.net Tue Aug 18 23:00:00 1998
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From: Platini Kwok <platinik@glink.net.hk>
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Subject: VEGF-b of 23 Kd and 46 Kd
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Hi,

Why it is difficult to detect the 46 Kd by vegf-b antibody? Although I
already put the sample into unreducing loading buffer (no
2-mercaethanol), run the SDS page and then electroblotting onto NC
membrane  by wet method. After incubating with primary vegf-b polychonal

antibody (Santa Cruze) and goat ABC (Vector stain) and development of
DAB, it is found that the intensity of the band of 46 Kd is very week.
Instead, the intensity of 23 Kd is very strong in reducing condition.
Why is that? My sample is rat retina.

Thank you for your opinion!

Platini




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From: gmorley@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk (Mr. G. Morley)
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Subject: Bcl2 and Bcl xl
Date: 19 Aug 1998 12:13:15 GMT
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Dear all,
		 I was wondering if anyone has Bcl2 and Bclxl in a
plasmid or (preferably) a mammalian retroviral vector that
they could let me have. If anyone  could take the time to send me
some I w ould be deeply grateful!
Thanks in advance,
					Gary Morley
 					Department of haematology
					University College London
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From: delgadoi@PILOT.MSU.EDU (Ivan J Delgado Orlic)
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Subject: Help with SDS-PAGE of Arabidopsis samples
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Dear All,
         I am having problems with 1-D SDS-PAGE. After a lot of
troubleshooting, I
have concluded that there may be something wrong with my Arabidopsis protein
samples (since other protein samples run fine into the same gel, including
older Arabidopsis protein samples, but every single sample, old and new, tends
to show protein bands only larger than about 25 kD). A copy of a Ponceau
stained gel showing the "smiling" effect I see starting at around 29 kD (the
greater the protein concentration, the more pronounced the smiling is) and the
lack of polypeptides smaller than 25 kD can be seen here: http://www.msu.edu/~delgadoi/ponceau.html
        The extracts are from Arabidopsis seedlings ground in a mortar and pestle,
spun at 2,000g twice (each time the supernatant was transferred to a clean
tube) and then desalted using a Centricon (5 kD cutoff) filter before
resuspending in PBS (plus 0.1% Triton X-100). The buffers I have use for
extraction include Laemmli buffer and a Tris+sucrose based buffer. 
        Since I have never seen this before, any help would be greatly
appreciated. I am running out of things to try (the acrylamide, Running buffer
and the other reagents are nearly all from lab stocks that show consistent
good results -they work!- so I believe the problem is with the protein sample,
but what?).
        Thank you for your time,
        Ivan


Ivan J Delgado Orlic                        Lab: 517-353-3519 
MSU-DOE Plant Research Laboratory           delgadoi@pilot.msu.edu 
East Lansing, MI  48824-1312                http://www.msu.edu/user/delgadoi

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From: James Fethiere <james@mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de>
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Subject: protein precipitation
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Hello, 

I was just preparing to purify a soluble kinase from the cytoplasm of
sf9 cells but ran into a little problem.  After polytron, and high speed
centrifugation, the published method indicates that the supernatant
(soluble fraction) should be completed with a HEPES buffer pH 7.2
containing EDTA, and 0.02% Triton X-100 before going to an S-sepharose
column. Well, the prepared buffer looks very clear, but as soon as I
dilute the protein fraction with this buffer, everything becomes cloudy,
and a light precipitate forms.  I don't see any reason for this.  Any
ideas????

Thank you

James

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There was the DNA Dipstick from Invitrogen.  I think they made an RNA
version and maybe a protein dipstick, but I am not sure.

There is a company that makes the DotMetric protein quantitation method,
which is kind of a dipstick method.  I forget the company name.

Daniel Kim
 

Petter <petter@mindspring.com> wrote:
: In article <35DAF3D0.D5664525@ornl.gov>, isolan@ornl.gov wrote:

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: >
: >Narayana R.Isola

: depends on the accurracy i suppose

: wasn't there one of these for DNA in the market at one point?

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On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 05:39:12, delgadoi@PILOT.MSU.EDU (Ivan J Delgado Orlic) 
wrote:

> Dear All,
>          I am having problems with 1-D SDS-PAGE. After a lot of
> troubleshooting, I
> have concluded that there may be something wrong with my Arabidopsis protein
> samples (since other protein samples run fine into the same gel, including
> older Arabidopsis protein samples, but every single sample, old and new, tends
> to show protein bands only larger than about 25 kD). A copy of a Ponceau
> stained gel showing the "smiling" effect I see starting at around 29 kD (the
> greater the protein concentration, the more pronounced the smiling is) and the
> lack of polypeptides smaller than 25 kD can be seen here: http://www.msu.edu/~delgadoi/ponceau.html
>         The extracts are from Arabidopsis seedlings ground in a mortar and pestle,
> spun at 2,000g twice (each time the supernatant was transferred to a clean
> tube) and then desalted using a Centricon (5 kD cutoff) filter before
> resuspending in PBS (plus 0.1% Triton X-100). The buffers I have use for
> extraction include Laemmli buffer and a Tris+sucrose based buffer. 
>         Since I have never seen this before, any help would be greatly
> appreciated. I am running out of things to try (the acrylamide, Running buffer
> and the other reagents are nearly all from lab stocks that show consistent
> good results -they work!- so I believe the problem is with the protein sample,
> but what?).
>         Thank you for your time,
>         Ivan
> 
> 
> Ivan J Delgado Orlic                        Lab: 517-353-3519 
> MSU-DOE Plant Research Laboratory           delgadoi@pilot.msu.edu 
> East Lansing, MI  48824-1312                http://www.msu.edu/user/delgadoi

Thanks for the photo -- great idea! Looks to me like your samples have a ton of
salt in them. That would account for the smearing, smiling, and retardation of 
low-mol wt polypeptides while the larger species aren't so much affected. The 
salt front can be spread out a lot, and would interfere with lower-mol wt 
species or make them run together. I think you'd want at most 50 mM monovalent 
salt, and preferably <5 mM divalent cation. 

Can you desalt by dialysis? On a micro-scale, use a 3500-MWCO membrane 
stretched over a 'decapped' eppitube & held on with a ~2 mm ring of rubber 
tubing or a rubber band, then floated upside down on buffer. 

Sucrose in your buffer might well interfere with the centrifugal dialysis your 
trying. I'd also recommend a more conventional extraction buffer unless, as I 
infer, you're running a non-denaturing gel. Have a look at the Methods in Plant
Molecular Biology series book or other protein methods guide. For denaturing 
gels, an extraction buffer with Tris, SDS, DTT, 