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From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr (Pierre Didierjean)
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I'd like to know what kind of people i find on the net.

Students, Commercials, Adminitrations, Scientifics or what ??

Is anybody knows that or have statistical results ?


What are YOU doing in life ?

I am a system administrator.


Thanks for the answers and sorry for my english .....



Bye


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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 02 22:00:00 1994
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From: dudy bar-zvi <dbarzvi@bgumail.bgu.ac.il>
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Dear netters,

We have got a nice offer from thermocyclers form Techne.
I would like to get some information and experience with thermocyclers 
made by Techne. Are Techne cyclers users happy with it? Do they recommend 
to get it?


Thanks,

Dudy Bar-Zvi
Ben-Gurion University
Beer-Sheva, Israel

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Nov 03 22:00:00 1994
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Netters --
	A few weeks ago I put out a request for advice on PCR machines.  
The following is a summary of those results.  From the input, I am leaning 
towards the MJR machine, but will bench test several models.  Thanks to 
everyone for your input!



Mary Alice Coffroth
Department of Biological Sciences
SUNY at Buffalo
Buffalo, NY  14260

716-645-2881
716 645-2975 [fax]
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SUMMARY OF COMMENTS ON "THE BEST PCR MACHINE"

From:	IN%"jfell@rsmas.miami.edu" 20-OCT-1994 15:32:45.76
To:	IN%"V226UHBQ@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: Pcr machines


 we have been using the MJ - both models for several years and they
have been great- no problems and the price is right -
PS - MJ will send out one on trial - but I am sure that you will be happy
with one. J.


From:	IN%"bio_hannan%emuvax.dnet.emich.edu@emunix.emich.edu" 21-OCT-1994 12:36:19.53
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: thermocycler


	We have a Coy50 that has gone back for repair twice- first for
cooling block problem, now for heating problem.  It won't get up to
set points above about 35 degrees.  Have you had similar problems and is that
why you are not considering another Coy (e.g. 60)?  We have also had the
usual experiences of having amplifications stop completely for no apparent
reason (although this seems to happen to everyone at times).

Gary Hannan
bio_hannan@emunix.emich.edu

From:	IN%"UDBR150@BAY.CC.KCL.AC.UK"  "DEVILISH DERVISH" 21-OCT-1994 12:46:21.43
To:	IN%"V226UHBQ@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: PCR Machines


In the lab we have had a Hybaid Tr1 'thermo cycler' for years and found it 
to be verry good for all amplification..including RAPD's
 found the same problem as your getting..pcr became more popular in the
lab and adjoining labs and had to get another...tried the Hybaid tr2
found it to be too slow...due to an open top design making heating to 
90+ a real problem..also found it to be unreliable...results not always
reproducible but were reproducible in the tr1..no good for us
 called Hybaid and arranged a 'part exchange'...for a realativley small
ammount we got rid of the tr2 and got a tr3...this was a verry different beast
 has 96well microtitre or eppendorph (small) capabilities..as well as able
to do the insitue amplification work on microscope slides..ramp time is
much faster...about 2/3 time of the tr2 and can be adjusted for individual
programs...both ramp and increment (usefull for the longer porograms where
Taq can loose activity) are programable, can hold up to 30 programs on
'smart-disc' and can also be coupled to the lab pc.
 if this wasnt enough it can have up to 2 satelite units slaved to it..
'dumb' blocks under the copntroll of the primary unit..can perform 3 different
amplifications simultaniously..satelites are about1/2 price of te controll
module.
 Basically i like it..even has a groovey display showing possition in the 
program and predicted finish time.
 Only thing i dont know is the price..but i do know that Hybaid are quite cheep
compared to many of the companies.
 Hope this is of help.
Dave Roberts
Kings College London
p.s. I dont work for Hybaid..I work for peanuts !!


From:	IN%"boulding@uoguelph.ca"  "Elizabeth Boulding" 21-OCT-1994 12:51:34.95
To:	IN%"V226UHBQ@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: PCR Machines


Hi,
I like my MJ research machine very much and it is much easier
to program and faster than a PE machine.
Elizabeth Boulidng.


From:	IN%"JNAKAMOT@pediatrics.medsch.ucla.edu"  "Nakamoto, M.D.,Jon" 21-OCT-1994 13:06:38.75
To:	IN%"V226uhbq@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: thermal cycler info


I happen to be in exactly the same boat (currently using a Coy and looking 
for a 96-well plate cycler, with the leading candidate being an MJ Research 
machine). I'll share my one small bit of info with you if you'll E-mail your 
summary of comments you get.

Debra Farber's lab over at the Jules Stein Eye Institute here at UCLA are 
currently demo-ing both an MJ Research 100-96V with a "Hot Bonnet" lid, as 
well as a Stratagene Robocycler. They like them both very much (the MJ for 
the plates, and the RoboCycler for pure speed). Their previous MJ machine was 
very dependable and still used. One thing that surprised me was their comment 
that the heated lid option wasn't dependable enough to leave mineral oil out 
of the reaction --although they're still testing it, at this point they 
probably won't get this option. What's nice is that they were allowed to demo 
the unit with the heated lid for a few weeks -- something both you and I 
should probably do, too.

Actually, I'm also going to demo the Ericomp Single-Block (a few hundred 
dollars cheaper), which the sales rep said I should run side-by-side with 
the MJ machine. He claims the well-to-well uniformity is better (who knows?). 

(Rich) People using the top of the line Perkin-Elmer 9600 (2 divisions in our 
dept) like it (great well-to-well uniformity/reproducibility), but you know 
the price. And the heated lid is again not as great as advertised (one lab 
still uses mineral oil). 

If you need more speed (and with 8 hour runs, it sound like you might), a lot 
of people have been enthusiastic about the units which physically move tubes 
from pre-equilibrated block to block. You've likely seen the ads for the 
Stratagene Robocycler (including the one that has a gradient block to test 8 
diff annealing temps -- gee that sounds nice); I also asked for Inotech 
Biosystems to send me info on their Quarterbath Immersion Cycler ($4900 list) 
which does the same thing, only with water baths. The Stratagene unit doesn't 
support 96-well plates that I know of; the Quarterbath unit does. 

I'd love to hear what comments you get (I didn't get much response when I 
posted a similar question earlier).

Thanks,
Jon

Jon Nakamoto, MD
Clinical Instructor of Pediatrics/Endocrinology
UCLA
jnakamot@pediatrics.medsch.ucla.edu
fax (310) 206-5843


From:	IN%"VSC003@ukcc.uky.edu" 21-OCT-1994 18:11:46.02
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	Coy Thermocyclers


We have one of the early Coy Thermocyclers.  I'm at home and don't recall
the model number.  It has worked very well for RAPDs for us and is the
machine of choice for one of my co-workers.  We had a problem with the
machine quitting on us in the middle of runs.  We finally learned from
the manufacturer that we needed to remove the front piece and use a soft
pencil eraser to clean the "electrical points" (my word).  Then it works
great.  Even the digital display is brighter.  We've made a habit of
cleaning the "points" once a month or so.  I had a pick-up truck like
that once.  The Coy has performed well against other machines for PCR.
It just has this one maintainance aspect that isn't described in the
manual.---


From:	IN%"jweiland@BADLANDS.NODAK.EDU" 21-OCT-1994 18:28:49.48
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	Microtitre PCR blocks and MJR


First, we are really in love with the MJR machines.  My S.O. first used
one 4 years ago, and I went over to her lab to get away from the dinosaur
Perkin-Elmer near our lab.  I've used a 60 well MJR for the past two
years and had no problems, and on a new project now, have ordered a
96-well unit.  MJR's are very fast and quiet.  No problems yet.  They are
very easy to program and start.  So far, so good.

Question for users of MJR or other 96-well blocks----WE've been quoted a
price of $93.00 for 25 plates (polycarbonate) for use in the 96-well
unit.  Any cheaper prices out there for a plate that is manufactured for
use in a thermocycler?

Thanks

John Weiland	jweiland@badlands.nodak.edu

From:	IN%"GOVE002@TWNMOE10.Edu.TW"  "WANG, WEI-YOUNG" 23-OCT-1994 20:04:53.66
To:	IN%"V226UHBQ@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: PCR Machines


I had an old Coy60 for several years.  I used for RAPDs and regular PCR.
It performed well for me although it has broken twice on me.  The problem
of using Coy60 for RAPDs is slow.  I use 94Cx1m, 30Cx4m45s, 72Cx2m and
45 cycles which takes about 9 hrs to complete.  Then, I got a Idaho Air
Thermal Cycler which seals reaction mixtures in a glass capillary.  The
reaction is much faster and more reliable.  I uses 94Cx1s, 37Cx7s, 72Cx70s
and 45 cycles which takes about 2 hr to complete for RAPDs.  As for PCR
reaction, it usually takes less than half an hour to complete.  The glass
capillary is sealed with a mini-torch which is a little bit troblesome but
since no oil is needed, latter application of RAPD samples into gel is
easier.  Also, capillary tubes costs much less than 0.5ml tubes or 96-well
plates.  (I'm in no way associated with the company that produce the Idaho
Air Thermal Cycler).

Wei-Young Wang
Taiwan Forestry Research Institute
gove002@twnmoe10.edu.tw


From:	IN%"PX52@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU" 25-OCT-1994 23:48:10.03
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	PCR Machines


My lab's experience with the machines from M.J. Research
has been outstanding. We have two 60-well models. Both
have given very reproducible results and have been very
reliable.The only problems we had were when we employed
the external temperature probe; then there was a tendency
for the programs to scram. So, we just don't use the
external probes any more.  The M.J. machines are also
reasonably priced IMHO.

--------------------------------------------------------
  Thomas E. Chase                px52@sdsumus.sdstate.edu
  South Dakota State University  Voice 605-688-5550
  Plant Science Department       FAX:  605-688-4024
--------------------------------------------------------


From:	IN%"HAMELIN@cfl.forestry.ca" 26-OCT-1994 09:50:08.83
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	MJ-Research cyclers


We also use MJ-Research PTC100 60 wells machines and are very satisfied.
However, last summer, 10 days before the end of the warranty, the element
fried when the power came back after a power break-down. I hope this is
not going to happen every time there is power failure...Anybody else
had their elements burn in their MJ-Research cyclers?



To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: PCR Machines

I HAVE A PERKIN/ELMER 480. IT HAS BEEN WORKING ALMOST 24 HRS. A DAY FOR
THE PAST 1.5 YEARS. IT HAS NEVER LET MY DOWN. ALWAYS GENERATE REPRODUCIBLE
RESULTS. I CAN HIGHLY DEPEND ON IT, EVEN BETTER THAN  MY USED CAR!
MM


From:	IN%"FORSDYKE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA" 27-OCT-1994 17:24:13.03
To:	IN%"rapd@net.bio.net"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: MJ-Research cyclers


    After 11 months of use our MJ heat-pump just collapsed. But it worked very
nicely before then.


From:	IN%"harry@liverpool.ac.uk"  "Mr H.A. Noyes"  1-NOV-1994 17:30:43.31
To:	IN%"V226UHBQ@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu"
CC:	
Subj:	RE: PCR Machines


Here in Britain PE have a special offer on of two for the price of one. 
That would be enough for me as they are very sound machines. I also use
 the Hybaid Omnigene, that is fan cooled and therefore does not go to below 
ten degrees above ambient but is a more flexible machine taking 96 well plates 
and 500ul tubes on the same block as well as other alternatives. It is also
 cheaper than the PE.

All the best
Harry Noyes at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Nov 06 22:00:00 1994
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From: FARMERJ@YVAX.BYU.EDU
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Subject: Other sources of molecular marker information
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I received only one response to my query about newsgroups/mailing
lists which concentrate on molecular markers and primers for
particular species or higher level taxonomic categories.  

-----------------------------------------------

This group covers any DNA related protocols/discoveries/PCR
primers of relevance to any and all molluscs.  (Thanks to Craig
Wilding)

     molluscs@net.bio.net

----------------------------------------------

The other group of which I am aware is devoted to molecular
markers and primers in insects.

     bug-net@sfu.ca

I believe that you can get subscription information from Bernie Crespi at

     crespi@crespi@sfu.ca
	
-----------------------------------------------

James L. Farmer
Department of Zoology
571 WIDB
Brigham Young University
Provo, Utah 84602, USA

(801) 378-2153 (voice, phone mail)
(801) 378-7499 (FAX)
FARMERJ@YVAX.BYU.EDU

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Nov 06 22:00:00 1994
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I would like to be included in the RAPD newsgroup.

Thanks

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Nov 07 22:00:00 1994
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I apologize for my university's text editor.  The information address for
bug-net should be (obviously) crespi@sfu.ca.  Sorry.  Jim Farmerz

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 09 22:00:00 1994
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From: mlagace@uoguelph.ca (Mark C Lagace)
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Subject: Has anyone cloned a RAPD band?
Date: 10 Nov 1994 14:51:54 GMT
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I am trying to clone a RAPD band and was wondering if anyone had 
experience with this.  More specifically I was wondering what cloning 
vector would be suited to this purpose.  An article reference would be 
ideal.  Thanks for any help you can offer.

					Mark.

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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 09 22:00:00 1994
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From: khwu@ccms.ntu.edu.tw (Kae-kang Hwu)
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Better separation medium
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 94 08:53:47 MST
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Hi All,

Has anybody been using SynerGel to separate RAPD 
products?  We are looking for a better separation medium 
than NewSieve 3:1, and no polyacrylamide please.

We have been working on one major band in our RAPD 
analysis of watermelon for more than two weeks.  Today we 
fond out in horror today that it is actually composed of two 
very close bands.  We regularly use NewSieve 3:1 for gel 
electrophoresis.  The separation was usually satisfying but 
today's run was exceptionally well (judging from the 
sharpness of markers).  However, the two bands in question 
can only be distinguished in 5 of the total 6 samples still.

First we thought that after 2 times of re-amplification, the 
slightly shorter band was a product of mismatch near the 
priming site.  But restriction digests reveled that they are 
indeed two different sequences.  So these two bands were 
there from the beginning.  Checking with earlier photo 
records than we noticed that 'this band' did look to be a little 
wider then others in the similar molecular weight range.  This 
finding brings out a horrifying question: Are those major 
bands in our analysis all composed of more than one bands?  
We have to re-exam some of those to clarify this potential 
disaster, but we are certainly happy that we caught this one 
before starting sequence them.

So, any body care to comment?

===========================================
Kae-kang Hwu
Dept. of Agronomy
National Taiwan Univ.
============================================


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Kae-Kang, we have been using FMC's Metaphor agarose.  FMC claims very
good resolution for small products.  We have found this so in our hands
as well.  I would suggest that you call your FMC supplier and see if
you
can get a sample to try it out.  

==============================
David Demezas
Demed@vms.ucc.okstate.edu.
==============================

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Nov 10 22:00:00 1994
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From: "Renato Fani" <dibagef1@idg.fi.cnr.it>
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Subject: RE: Has anyone cloned a RAPD band?
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In message 10 Nov 1994 14:51:54 GMT,
  mlagace@uoguelph.ca (Mark C Lagace)  writes:

> I am trying to clone a RAPD band and was wondering if anyone had
> experience with this.  More specifically I was wondering what cloning
> vector would be suited to this purpose.  An article reference would be
> ideal.  Thanks for any help you can offer.
>
> 					Mark.
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 	I think the surest sign	that	|  Mark Lagace
> 	intelligent life exists else-	|  Molecular Biology + Genetics
> 	where in the universe is that	|  University of Guelph
> 	none of it has tried to contact	|  Guelph, Ontario, Canada
> 	us.  -- Calvin (and Hobbes)	|  mlagace@uoguelph.ca
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>

Mark,

We have cloned and sequenced some RAPD markers from the nitrogen fixing
bacterium Azospirillum brasilense. You can find all the informations dealing
with the cloning strategy and the plasmid(s) used in the following paper by
Fani et al published last year in Mol. Ecology 2, 243-250: "Use of the
Random amplified polymorphic DNA (RAPD) for generating specific DNA probes
for microorganisms". Best regards and good luck.

                                                 Renato

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Renato Fani
Dipartimento di Biologia Animale e Genetica "Leo Pardi"
Universita' degli Studi di Firenze
via Romana 17
I-50125 Firenze, Italy
Phone: +39 55 220498     Fax: +39 55 222565
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From: jpaciga@com1.med.usf.edu (June Paciga)
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Subject: Re: Better separation medium
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Kae-kang Hwu (khwu@ccms.ntu.edu.tw) wrote:
: Hi All,

: Has anybody been using SynerGel to separate RAPD 
: products?  We are looking for a better separation medium 
: than NewSieve 3:1, and no polyacrylamide please.

: We have been working on one major band in our RAPD 
: analysis of watermelon for more than two weeks.  Today we 
: fond out in horror today that it is actually composed of two 
: very close bands.  We regularly use NewSieve 3:1 for gel 
: electrophoresis.  The separation was usually satisfying but 
: today's run was exceptionally well (judging from the 
: sharpness of markers).  However, the two bands in question 
: can only be distinguished in 5 of the total 6 samples still.

: First we thought that after 2 times of re-amplification, the 
: slightly shorter band was a product of mismatch near the 
: priming site.  But restriction digests reveled that they are 
: indeed two different sequences.  So these two bands were 
: there from the beginning.  Checking with earlier photo 
: records than we noticed that 'this band' did look to be a little 
: wider then others in the similar molecular weight range.  This 
: finding brings out a horrifying question: Are those major 
: bands in our analysis all composed of more than one bands?  
: We have to re-exam some of those to clarify this potential 
: disaster, but we are certainly happy that we caught this one 
: before starting sequence them.

: So, any body care to comment?

: ===========================================
: Kae-kang Hwu
: Dept. of Agronomy
: National Taiwan Univ.
: ============================================
Try using FMC's MetaPhor agarose. I have been using it for ddrt/pcr 
products.  It is supposedly capable of separating products differing in 
size by 2%.

June Eva Paciga
Dept. Pathology
Univ. So. Florida
Tampa

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Nov 10 22:00:00 1994
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From: "Renato Fani" <dibagef1@idg.fi.cnr.it>
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In message 10 Nov 1994 14:51:54 GMT,
  mlagace@uoguelph.ca (Mark C Lagace)  writes:

> I am trying to clone a RAPD band and was wondering if anyone had
> experience with this.  More specifically I was wondering what cloning
> vector would be suited to this purpose.  An article reference would be
> ideal.  Thanks for any help you can offer.
>
> 					Mark.
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 	I think the surest sign	that	|  Mark Lagace
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Mark,

We have cloned and sequenced some RAPD markers from the nitrogen fixing
bacterium Azospirillum brasilense. You can find all the informations dealing
with the cloning strategy and the plasmid(s) used in the following paper by
Fani et al published last year in Mol. Ecology 2, 243-250: "Use of the
Random amplified polymorphic DNA (RAPD) for generating specific DNA probes
for microorganisms". Best regards and good luck.

                                                 Renato

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Renato Fani
Dipartimento di Biologia Animale e Genetica "Leo Pardi"
Universita' degli Studi di Firenze
via Romana 17
I-50125 Firenze, Italy
Phone: +39 55 220498     Fax: +39 55 222565
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Tue Nov 15 22:00:00 1994
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Ok, here goes.

Has _anyone_ really ever figured out why their RAPD amplifications
mysteriously stop working for periods of time (days to weeks) while
trying new batches of everythinkg imaginable??  We have had about four
bouts of amplification failures in the last year or so and we have never
come up with a very satisfying explanation for it.  We end up saying
"well, it's working again.  Let's not worry about why it stopped and 
concentrate on generating data until it stops again."

I know from talking to many other people doing RAPDs that it happens to
everyone at some time.

Yes, we have tried new Taq, different dNTPs, new 10x buffer, new MgCl, 
water from other sources, checking pipetter calibration, different
500uL tubes, another Coy50 (I know, I know), glycerol instead of mineral
oil in wells, different positive control templates (that have worked well
in the past), PCR of other tmeplates with known primers, different mineral
oil ovelay (that has worked in past- although we are now forced to use a new
batch that we found to work once while trying to sort out our amp. problems). 
Taq, dNTPs, 10x buffer, MgCl all Perkin-Elmer.

Any words of wisdom would help alleviate much frustration lately.

Thanks

Gary Hannan
Bio_hannan@emuvax.emich.edu

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Is this group dead, or is it the technique which has died?
-- 
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                        "Mushrooms have genes?!"
Erik Legg                                 phone 408 728 8321
Amycel/SpawnMate Biotechnical Group       fax   408 728 8385

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Sorry for the lack of subject in my first post- still learning the ropes
of our news reader.

Gary Hannan


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From: "austi012@gold.tc.umn.edu" <austi012@gold.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Viruses/DNA/Cancer
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What follows are questions and a line of reasoning.  

(1) Can or will a given virus enter/invade a cell that has already been 
invaded by one of the virus' sisters?  If not, has the first virus somehow 
coded the surface of the infected cell so as to discourage further 
infiltrations?

(2) Every cell's DNA coding has many miles of code that does nothing.  
Included in the DNA chain are 'switches' that tell the cell not to 
read or act on the code, although it is replicated when the cell 
reproduces. Where does this extra coding come from? 

     (a) We know that, in general, viruses reproduce by attaching thier 
own genetic material to the cells and thereby forcing the cell to use its 
machinery to replicate many more viruses. Is it possible that some of the 
'extra' coding in cells is DNA that was injected into the cell or its 
predecessor by a virus, incorporated into the cell's DNA coding, and then 
switched off by the cell (as a defense mechanism) with one of the "Do not 
read" switches mentioned above?

     (b) Additionally, if (1) and (2a) are correct, could not the cell be 
using the virus as a means of shutting down infiltration by sister 
viruses?  That is, having incorporated the virus into its own DNA and 
having rendered the virus coding impotent with the "off" switch, could 
not the cell and its successors use the virus' own "do not invade' coding 
to ward off sister virus infiltrations?  
       Alternatively, another approach: the cell, having incorporated the 
virus' coding, and rendered it impotent with the "off" switch, reads the 
virus and uses it as a comparison piece-- as part of a defense strategem 
against viruses that attempt to infiltrate-- in much the same way as the 
virus program my computer uses.  That is, when a virus similar to one 
already incorporated attemptsto infiltrate the cell, the cell is able 
somehow to recognize the virus and deny it venue.

(3) A possible cause of cancers: faulty "off" switches.  The incorporated 
viral coding is left in a partly "on" state, and that coding forces the 
cell to replicate out of control.

Thanks for reading this post.  If anybody would like to respond to me, 
I'll look forward to reading same.

Thaddeus Austin           Imagine a witty quote here: virtual humor!
austi012@gold.tc.umn.edu                     

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Hello:

WRT two viruses in one cell:
There is the case of suppressor genes in bacteriophages which prevent a phage 
from successfully infecting a bacterium already harboring another phage.  This
is the basis for some recombinant selection strategies in lambda phage cloning
(for instance, the EMBL3 phage has a sequence in its "insert" region that
prevents nonrecombinant phage from infecting a particular host which is 
already harboring a prophage in its genome.  If the "insert" region is replaced
by a recombinant sequence, then that phage can infect.).

This suppression may not exist, or may have exceptions in other viruses.

WRT viral sequences incorporated into genomes:

This does happen.  One well-known case is the virus-like sequence found in 
rodents called "VL-30".  It has many of the structural elements of a 
retrovirus provirus, including long terminal repeat (LTR) elements that
contain growth hormone-responsive enhancer elements.  The VL-30 is so old that
its genes are no longer functional.  It no longer has the ability to 
replicate itself as an RNA virus, nor can it encode viral proteins such as
reverse transcriptase or coat proteins.

Other viral sequences of this type have been found and characterized, but I 
am not familiar with them.

WRT provirus-induced immunity:

I don't know of anything like this in mammalian systems.  Plants have something
like this (recently reviewed in _The Plant Cell_) that uses the unusual
plant property of "sense suppression".  In sense suppression, if a plant has
some active gene in its own genome, and a similar gene is introduced (by 
transfection/transformation in the lab, for instance), the plant will 
inactivate the expression of both genes.  The mechanism is unknown.  Using this
phenomenon, it is possible, in some cases, to make a plant "immune" to viral
infection by previously transfecting it with an essential viral gene.  When
the virus infects, its own gene will be suppressed.

WRT virus-induced cancer:

This does happen in a way.  RNA viruses (retroviruses) in mammalian cells
contain enhancer elements ("on"-switches) in their LTRs that respond to growth
factors and growth-related transcriptional activating proteins.  One good
example is the "AP-1" site, which is bound by the fos/jun complex (AP-1)
and stimulates gene expression in a nearby gene.  By having these elements, 
retroviral genes are activated by cell growth.

If a provirus inserts itself close to some growth-stimulating gene, the 
proximity of LTR-enhancers or of the viral promoters themselves may cause
the cellular gene to be activated inappropriately, stimulating the cell into
a growth cycle.  I think the mouse mammary tumor virus (MMTV) may work in
this way, preferentially incorporating close to a mouse mammary growth
gene.  

In addition, parts of growth-related genes can be accidentally incorporated 
into the viral genome, thus falling under the control of viral transcription.
The expression of these genes during the viral life cycle can cause a cell
to enter a growth phase.  This is the basis of the "oncogene" concept, which
was first(?) characterized in the avian "src" gene.

I hope this was helpful.  I believe I am at least 89% correct in what I wrote.

Daniel Kim
dkim@triton.unm.edu


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Nov 20 22:00:00 1994
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Hi, folks

I'm interested in doing RAPD on Leps (genus *Papilio*). I'm hoping to get
enough markers for both intra- and inter- population work. Jim Mallet and
his Lep. group at University college, London have advised me against RAPDs
as they've had difficulties with them. Wonder if anyone else would like to
comment? Is anyone else out there looking at Leps? How about this Dutch
company's a-RAPD system - guess it's much more expensive but might it solve
my marker problem for me?

If I could get the things to work it'd be great as I'm likely to have v.
limited funds/time. RAPD seems to offer the best system for what I want to
do.

TIA for any suggestions and/or contacts in the field

FERNLEY SYMONS
(fernley.symons@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk)  


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subscribe RAPD



From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Tue Nov 22 22:00:00 1994
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> To:            rapd@net.bio.net
> From:          krutovskiik@fsl.orst.edu (Konstantin Krutovskii)
> Subject:       Stratagen Taq Extender
> Date:          Tue, 22 Nov 1994 19:32:28

> Stratagen recently introduced very effective PCR-enhancement reagent, Taq
> Extender PCR additive (see Nielson et al., 1994: Strategies 7: 26 or 7:64).
> We use it in the same amount per reaction as Taq. It really improves the
> amplification of different templates and increases the yield of many PCRs
> (especially for long products). I hope it would be interesting for RAPD folks
> who got headache with difficult templates.
> 
> Kostya

But will Taq extender work under RAPD conditions??  Has anyone tried? 
 Some enzyme preps of Taq contain lots of contaminating fragmented 
DNAs that generate smears under RAPD conditions with most primers and 
no additional input template DNA. We have measured as high as 
300ng/ul DNA in some commercial preps of Taq Pol.

Doug Rhoads                  || Dept. of Biological Sciences
drhoads@mercury.uark.edu     || 601 Science Engineering
drhoads@uafsysb.uark.edu     || University of Arkansas
501-575-3251                 || Fayetteville, AR 72701

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Stratagen recently introduced very effective PCR-enhancement reagent, Taq 
Extender PCR additive (see Nielson et al., 1994: Strategies 7: 26 or 7:64). 
We use it in the same amount per reaction as Taq. It really improves the 
amplification of different templates and increases the yield of many PCRs 
(especially for long products). I hope it would be interesting for RAPD folks 
who got headache with difficult templates.

Kostya

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 23 22:00:00 1994
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Dear Netters,
I am looking for the sequences of micro satellite repeats.
Has any one seen any reviews or publications with lists of the 
repeat sequences.
I would be pleased to receive any information on this subject.
Thanks in advance

David H. Moon


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e.g.: GCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGC

Why is anyone interested in a microsatellite sequence?
K. Louis

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In article <3b4hl3$25s@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, <LOUIS@nefelh.imbb.forth.gr> says:
>
>
>e.g.: GCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGCGC
>
>Why is anyone interested in a microsatellite sequence?
>K. Louis



K. Louis

I'm interested in microsatellites because I will be using them to quantify
genetic variation in lodgepole pine.  They are easy to use because they are small
enough to allow them to be PCRed.  As a result once a microsatellite sequence
has been located it makes it very easy to look at biodiversity and phylogenetic
relationships.

Your microsatellite lover,

***********************************************************************************
Mark Hicks                             *           *        
Dept. of Genetics                      *          /*\     <- lodgepole pine
University of Alberta                  *         /***\     
Edmonton, Alberta                      *        /*****\    my favorite tree.
CANADA                                 *           *
e-mail: mhicks@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca     *           *
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> To:            rapd@net.bio.net
> From:          krutovskiik@fsl.orst.edu (Konstantin Krutovskii)
> Subject:       Stratagen Taq Extender
> Date:          Tue, 22 Nov 1994 19:32:28

> Stratagen recently introduced very effective PCR-enhancement reagent, Taq
> Extender PCR additive (see Nielson et al., 1994: Strategies 7: 26 or 7:64).
> We use it in the same amount per reaction as Taq. It really improves the
> amplification of different templates and increases the yield of many PCRs
> (especially for long products). I hope it would be interesting for RAPD folks
> who got headache with difficult templates.
> 
> Kostya

But will Taq extender work under RAPD conditions??  Has anyone tried? 

Actually, we use it for RAPD and it works.

 Some enzyme preps of Taq contain lots of contaminating fragmented 
DNAs that generate smears under RAPD conditions with most primers and 
no additional input template DNA. We have measured as high as 
300ng/ul DNA in some commercial preps of Taq Pol.

I would not disagree, but this is another point and has nothing to do with
    Taq extender.

    Kostya

Doug Rhoads                  || Dept. of Biological Sciences
drhoads@mercury.uark.edu     || 601 Science Engineering
drhoads@uafsysb.uark.edu     || University of Arkansas
501-575-3251                 || Fayetteville, AR 72701

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Nov 28 22:00:00 1994
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I thought I was fairly up-t0--date on acronyms, but I need help figuring
out what "FSCP" is and finding a good reference to the technique.  An
anonymous reviewer of a grant proposal suggested that I use this technique
to find noncanonical monomer satellite DNA variants rather than brute force
cloning and sequencing, but he/shge failed to define or reference the
technique.  I would suppose that the "F" and the "S" stand for "flanking
sequences" or some such, but amy mystified by the rest.  Any hints would be
much appreciated.



From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Nov 28 22:00:00 1994
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>>>>> "Bruce" == Bruce J Turner <fishgen@vt.edu> writes:

    Bruce> I thought I was fairly up-t0--date on acronyms, but I need
    Bruce> help figuring out what "FSCP" is and finding a good
    Bruce> reference to the technique.  An anonymous reviewer of a
    Bruce> grant proposal suggested that I use this technique to find
    Bruce> noncanonical monomer satellite DNA variants rather than
    Bruce> brute force cloning and sequencing, but he/shge failed to
    Bruce> define or reference the technique.  I would suppose that
    Bruce> the "F" and the "S" stand for "flanking sequences" or some
    Bruce> such, but amy mystified by the rest.  Any hints would be
    Bruce> much appreciated.


Is it possible that the reviewer meant SSCP (single-strand sequence
conformation polymorphism, or something like that)?  If so, I can dig
up some references.  If not, I have no idea.

-- Kent

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| Kent E. Holsinger                 Internet: Kent@Darwin.EEB.UConn.Edu  |
| Department of Ecology &                     Holsinge@UConnVM.UConn.Edu |
|    Evolutionary Biology           BITNET:   Holsinge@UConnVM           |
| University of Connecticut, U-43                                        |
| Storrs, CT   06269-3043                                                |
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Nov 28 22:00:00 1994
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From: Xiao-Ru.Wang@genfys.slu.se (Xiao-Ru.Wang)
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Subject: re: microsatellites
Date: 29 Nov 1994 15:55:51 GMT
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>Your microsatellite lover,

Hi Mark,

Have you found any microsatellite sequences in logipole pine?

Xiao-Ru Wang

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Tue Nov 29 22:00:00 1994
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From: villa@eagle.bio.unipr.it (Ferdinando Villa)
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Subject: HELP - Ethidium Bromide contamination
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Hello, I need urgent advice.
A friend working in our lab got contaminated with diluted (1ml in 1l water)
ethidium bromide (a single finger got wet with the solution, because of
a hole in the glove). She washed her hands after a minute or so, when she
realized the problem, with water and soap. No trace of remaining ethidium
was shown under UV light on her finger. 

We need to know urgently which controls she should carry out after that. The
security instruction refer to the following book:

	Sambrook et al, "Molecular Cloning, A Lab Manual", 
	Cold Spring Harbor labs 1989. 

As we don't own the book and would take some time ordering it, we would
be most grateful to anyone who cares to give any advice on what to do.

With best wishes and thanks in advance, Ferdinando Villa


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Ferdinando Villa, Ph.D. 

Institute of Ecology                     Direct phone: +39-521-905615
University of Parma                               FAX: +39-521-905402
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 30 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: fuzzy pcr
Date: 1 Dec 1994 15:38:58 -0800
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Hi,
	I am doing microsatellite amplification from genomic dna and I find
for one of the microsatellites I'm amplifying the bands (around 100-200 bp)
always seem to be fuzzy on a 3% nusieve/1% BRL gel.  I don't think it is the gel
as the marker looks ok and other microsatelites amplified of approx this size
amplify up as more distinct bands.
	Any ideas out there on this?  
John         nelsonj@pbs.dfo.ca


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Nov 30 22:00:00 1994
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Subject: Rene Guyomard's address
Date: 1 Dec 1994 15:25:53 -0800
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Hello,
	Does anyone out the have Rene Guyomard's (Laboratoire de Biologie et
Genetique Evolutives, CNRS) email address or phone number?
Thanks,
John Nelson    nelsonj@pbs.dfo.ca



