From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 01 23:00:00 1996
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From: lonnie <ericompladel@delphi.com>
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Subject: email address in University of Bielefeld
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 00:48:53 -0500
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I am lookin gfor the email address for Achim Muller at the University of
Bielefeld in Germany.  I fyou can help, please email me.
Thanks,
Lonnie

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Tue Apr 02 23:00:00 1996
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From: Susan Jane Hogarth <sjhogart@unity.ncsu.edu>
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Subject: need software to track primers
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Hey,
What software do you all use to keep track of your RAPD primers?
Something free would be nice. Please email me. thanks lots
-- 


Susan Jane Hogarth

"Luck is the residue of design." -- Freddy the Fish 

"Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like
being
taught." -- Winston Churchill

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~sjhogart/public/home.html

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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Apr 03 23:00:00 1996
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From: ASERRATOS@ALPHAC.CIMMYT.MX ("J. Antonio Serratos", by way of Prakash@Acd.Tusk.edu (C. S. Prakash))
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Proceedings distribution: maize/teosinte gene flow
Date: 4 Apr 1996 12:36:22 -0800
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I am forwarding this announcement posted to a FAO newsgroup as I am
confident that this will be of interest to many of you.

C. S. Prakash

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ANNOUNCING A NEW PUBLICATION

By the Mexican National Institute of Forestry, Agriculture and Livestock
Research
(INIFAP), the Mexican National Agricultural Biosafety Committee (CNBA), and the
International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center (CIMMYT):


MAIZE-TEOCINTLE AND MAIZE-MAIZE GENE FLOW:
IMPLICATIONS FOR TRANSGENIC MAIZE


Proceedings of a forum held at CIMMYT headquarters, El Batan, Mexico, in
September
1995, involving some 20 biotech and genetic resource specialists --
including Mexican
and invited foreign experts. Specific topics include the distribution of
teosinte in
 Mexico, the frequency and intensity of gene flow between maize and
teosinte, the flow
of genes from improved maize to landraces, and the regulation and risk
assessment of
the release of transgenic maize in the center of origin of this crop and
teosinte

 The publication will be of interest to a varied readership, including
researchers in
genetic engineering, private seed company representatives, policymakers in
Mexico and
other countries wherein are found centers of genetic origin for crop
species, and

farmers who may eventually wish to sow transgenic seed. Approximately 130
pages, letter
size. Spanish and English versions.


To request a free copy, send a message to mlistman@cimmyt.mx with your name(and
institution or company, where appropriate), address, and other contact
information
(phone, fax, e-mail address), and the title "Gene Flow Proceedings Request"
in the "Re"
or
 "Subject" slot of your message.




UNA NUEVA PUBLICACION


Del Instituto Nacional de Investigaciones Forestales y Agropecuarias
(INIFAP), y el
Comite Nacional de Bioseguridad Agricola (CNBA) de Mexico, con la
colaboracion del
Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maiz y Trigo (CIMMYT):


FLUJO GENETICO ENTRE MAIZ MEJORADO, MAIZ CRIOLLO Y TEOCINTLE:
IMPLICACIONES PARA EL MAIZ TRANSGENICO


Es la memoria de un foro que se llevo a cabo en la sede del CIMMYT, en El
Batan,
Mexico, en Septiembre de 1995. En este foro participaron aproximadamente 20
especialistas en biotecnologia y recursos geneticos, de Mexico y otros
paises. Los
temas tratados incluyeron la distribucion del teocintle en Mexico, la
frecuencia y la
intensidad del flujo genetico entre maiz y teocintle, el flujo de genes de
variedades
mejoradas e hibridos a razas indigenas, y la reglamentacion y estimacion de
riesgos
relacionados con la liberacion de maiz transgenico en el centro de origen
de este
cultivo y del teocintle. La publicacion sera de interes para un publico
diverso, que
incluye a investigadores de la ingenieria genetica, representantes de empresas
semilleras, funcionarios en Mexico y otros paises donde se encuentren los
centros de
origen de los cultivos domesticados, y los productores que algun dia
siembren la
semilla transgenica. Aproximadamente 130 paginas, tamano carta. Disponible
en Ingles y
Espanol


Para solicitar un ejemplar gratis, envie un mensaje a mlistman@cimmyt.mx
con su nombre
(y la institucion o compania , en su caso), direccion, y otra informacion
de contacto
(numero telefonico o de fax, direccion de correo electronico), y el titulo "Gene
 Flow Proceedings Request" en la seccion "Re" o "Subject" de su correo
electronico.

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Take note there is a limited number of copies.


J. Antonio Serratos

Instituto Nacional de Investigaciones Forestales y Agropecuarias
Campo Experimental Valle de Mexico.
Km. 38.5 Carretera Mexico-Veracruz via Texcoco.
A.P. 10, Chapingo C.P. 56230, edo. de Mexico. MEXICO.

Tel. 52-5-9542499
Fax. 52-5-9546728

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CENTRO INTERNACIONAL DE MEJORAMIENTO DE MAIZ Y TRIGO (CIMMYT,INT)
        International Maize and Wheat Improvement Center

      - Sustainable Maize and Wheat Systems for the Poor -

   Lisboa 27  Apdo. Postal 6-641  CP 06600  Mexico, D.F. MEXICO
Telephone: +52(5)726-9091                     FAX: +52(5)726-7559
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Apr 04 23:00:00 1996
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From: Kay Brown <biosoft@best.com>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Etiquette for posting a message
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 18:01:53 -0800
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Dear moderator:

I just mailed this reply:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We have developed a primer design software package, Primer Premier, which 
helps you 
design PCR, sequencing primers and hybridization probes. The program runs 
on both 
Windows and Power Macintosh. 

It has a database facility which can be used to store primers. You can 
use the program 
to analyze any stored primers for secondary structures and primer 
properties such as 
melting temperature. You can store unlimited number of primers and you 
can keep them 
categorized by using separate file for each type. It will automatically 
generate 
synthesis forms for easy reordering of primers in the database.

Please visit our web site 

    http://www.PremierBiosoft.com

for a free demonstration copy. 

Please contact me if you have any questions or need further assistance.

Kay Brown

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


to this inquiry:

> Hey,
> What software do you all use to keep track of your RAPD primers?
> Something free would be nice. Please email me. thanks lots
> --
> 
> Susan Jane Hogarth

I would like to know if it would have been acceptable to this news group 
to POST this reply?

I would also like to know if there are any news groups that would welcome 
the announcement of our new release of version 4 of Primer Premier.

Thank you.

Kay Brown

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Premier Biosoft International
  Developing intuitive software for the molecular biologist
3786 Corina Way, Palo Alto, CA 94303 
Phone: 415.856.2703  Fax: 415.843.1250

http://www.PremierBiosoft.com/
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sat Apr 06 23:00:00 1996
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From: "A. Kumar" <akumar@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
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Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 15:39:18 -0500
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Hi ! I need to sequence same proteins from PVDF blots of 2D gels. Is there a 
company or University facility that can do this for me ? Kindly post 
response or send me an email.
Thanx
Ashish



 
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Apr 07 23:00:00 1996
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From: swerle@ent.umass.edu (Sean Werle)
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Subject: Gut fauna of Scarab beetle larvae
Date: 7 Apr 1996 19:56:15 -0700
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Hi there,

Could anyone refer me to work that has been done looking at the microbes that reside 
in the guts of Scarabaeid larvae? I know it's a long shot but I figured someone on 
this list might be able to narrow my search. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,
-- 
Sean F. Werle <swerle@ent.umass.edu>
Graduate student
Department of Entomology
UMass, Amherst
Work: (413)-545-0268
Web: http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~swerle/	
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Apr 07 23:00:00 1996
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From: Roland Koelliker <koelliker@ipw.agrl.ethz.ch>
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Subject: Strange smile
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Hi there
I always did get nice flat RAPD gels but all of a sudden the second half of
the gel seems to run slower than the first and the patterns are bent to the
lower right corner of the gel. Does anyone have an idea what could be going on?
Thank you for your help.
Roland
Roland Koelliker	                  
Swiss Fed Inst Technol               
Plant Sciences                              
ETH-Zentrum, LFW-C47         
CH-8092 Zurich                          
Tel ++41-1-632 4890
Fax ++41-1-632 1153
e-mail: koelliker@ipw.agrl.ethz.ch


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 08 23:00:00 1996
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From: FARMERJ@ACD1.BYU.EDU ("James L. Farmer")
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Subject: summer scientific meeting?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 13:16:15 -0700
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I have funds to attend a scientific meeting but I am not free to go 
anywhere until July and the funds must be spent by the end of 
August.  Unfortunately, all of the meetings I am aware of on genetics
and/or evolution are in April, June, and October.  Does anyone know 
of meetings in July or August?

My interests are Drosophila genetics, human genetics, ancient DNA, 
genetic diversity of natural populations, and evolutionary genetics, 
not necessarily in that order.

Thanks for what I hope will be some good suggestions.


James Farmer
Dept. of Zoology, 571 WIDB
Brigham Young University
Provo, Utah 84604-5255, USA

FARMERJ@BYU.EDU
801-378-2153 (voice)
801-378-7423 (FAX)

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 08 23:00:00 1996
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From: anastaso@nefeli.imbb.forth.gr
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Subject: tobacco mutant seeds
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Dear Netters,
  we are to mutagenise TOBACCO seeds and then select for the mutants

In order to map the position of the mutation we would need to tobacco

plants that carry known markers; ones that are known to reside at 

particular chromosomes would be very usefull to our mapping effort.

Therefore may we ask anyone who has seeds from such plants to send

us some to the address mentioned below. Thank you for your help.


Elias Anastassopoulos,

Foundation of Research and Technology-Hellas

Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology

P.O.Box 1527, Heraklion, 711 10, Crete, HELLAS.

Fax # (081) 230469

email:anastaso@nefeli.imbb.froth.gr 

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 08 23:00:00 1996
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From: anastaso@nefeli.imbb.forth.gr
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Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 22:23:21 GMT
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Dear Netters,
  we are to mutagenise TOBACCO seeds and then select for the mutants

In order to map the position of the mutation we would need tobacco

plants that carry known markers; ones that are known to reside at 

particular chromosomes would be very usefull to our mapping effort.

Therefore may we ask anyone who has seeds from such plants to send

us some to the address mentioned below. Thank you for your help.


Elias Anastassopoulos,

Foundation of Research and Technology-Hellas

Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology

P.O.Box 1527, Heraklion, 711 10, Crete, HELLAS.

Fax # (081) 230469

email:anastaso@nefeli.imbb.forth.gr 

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Apr 10 23:00:00 1996
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From: Susan Jane Hogarth <sjhogart@unity.ncsu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Strange smile
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 06:35:38 -0400
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Caprice Rosato wrote:

> We have been using
> silver-stained acrylamide to visualize our RAPD results, and we have seen
> some bending around the edges.   Our analysis would
> be enhanced by being able to get the lanes to run closer to parallel
> (that is, we could then take advantage of digital analysis rather than
> scoring by hand).

Isn't there image analysis software that can compensate for "smiling" gels?
-- 


Susan Jane Hogarth

"Luck is the residue of design." -- Freddy the Fish 

"Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being
taught." -- Winston Churchill

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~sjhogart/public/home.html

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From: Caprice Rosato <rosatoc@ucs.orst.edu>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Re: Strange smile
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:50:43 -0700
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Hi.

Are you running in agarose or acrylamide?  We have been using 
silver-stained acrylamide to visualize our RAPD results, and we have seen 
some bending around the edges.  Currently we are exploring alternative 
gel matricies (lifted from the literature), with the understanding that 
our problem may be due to 'drying' at the edges.  At the moment we 
haven't explored this theory other than to take note.  Our analysis would 
be enhanced by being able to get the lanes to run closer to parallel 
(that is, we could then take advantage of digital analysis rather than 
scoring by hand).

What is the voltage/amperage for your electrophoresis?

Caprice Rosato, Fac. Res. Asst., Oregon State University

On 8 Apr 1996, Roland Koelliker wrote:

> Hi there
> I always did get nice flat RAPD gels but all of a sudden the second half of
> the gel seems to run slower than the first and the patterns are bent to the
> lower right corner of the gel. Does anyone have an idea what could be going on?
> Thank you for your help.
> Roland
> Roland Koelliker	                  
> Swiss Fed Inst Technol               
> Plant Sciences                              
> ETH-Zentrum, LFW-C47         
> CH-8092 Zurich                          
> Tel ++41-1-632 4890
> Fax ++41-1-632 1153
> e-mail: koelliker@ipw.agrl.ethz.ch
> 
> 
> 


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Apr 11 23:00:00 1996
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From: Louis van de Zande <L.P.W.G.M.van.de.Zande@biol.RUG.NL>
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Subject: Re: Strange smile
Date: 12 Apr 1996 13:23:53 +0100
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On Smiling (or frowning)

Suppose everything is OK. Gel thickness, tank position, evenly 
distributed agarose concentration and uniform ion strength. In that 
case you could check the electrodes for corrosion, salt sedementation 
or even breaks. Electrophoretic mobility is depending on the electric 
field so it is crucial that the field is uniform.
good luck
Louis van de Zande

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From: Kari.Kammiovirta@Helsinki.Fi (Kari Kammiovirta)
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Subject: Re: Strange smile
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In article <4kahr2$bu8@mserv1.dl.ac.uk>, koelliker@ipw.agrl.ethz.ch 
says...
>I always did get nice flat RAPD gels but all of a sudden the second half 
of
>the gel seems to run slower than the first and the patterns are bent to 
the
>lower right corner of the gel. Does anyone have an idea what could be 
going on?
               
If you are running in agarose horizontal gels it might be that either the 
gel is little bit thicker on the other side, or that the running 'tank' 
is little bit tilted on the other side. I always check the position of 
the casting table and the place where I put the tank and have never 
suffered so bad tilting that it matters.
Cheers,
Kari


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Thu Apr 11 23:00:00 1996
Path: biosci!WSUNIX.WSU.EDU!stiff
From: stiff@WSUNIX.WSU.EDU (Carol Stiff, by way of Prakash@acd.tusk.edu (C. S. Prakash))
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Post-doc position in Marker Assisted Breeding of Legumes
Date: 12 Apr 1996 11:10:07 -0700
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Please route the following post-doc announcement to anyone interested:


Postdoc - Marker Assisted Breeding of Legumes:

Candidates must have a Ph.D. in plant breeding or genetics and molecular
biology or related fields.  Demonstrated experience in use of molecular
markers to evaluate progency and germplasm.  Responsibilities include
introduction of specific traits into Glycine and Vigna lines, assist
graduate student research projects, prepare grant proposals and research
papers, and evaluate germplasm field plots.  Experience in transgenics
and interest in East Asian agriculture desirable.  Send letter of
application, resume, transcripts, addresses and telephone numbers for
three references, personal addresses and telephone numbers by 1 June 1996
to:
       Dr. Thomas Lumpkin, Chair
       Department of Crop and Soil Sciences
       Washington State University
       Pullman, WA   99164-6420
       509-335-3471
       FAX 509-335-8674
       lumpkin@wsu.edu

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Carol M. Stiff          Horticulture/Crop Science Plant Tissue Culture Lab
26 Johnson Hall         Washington State University, Pullman, WA  99164-6420
509-335-3404 (lab)      208-882-8131 (home)
FAX 509-335-8674        stiff@wsunix.wsu.edu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sat Apr 13 23:00:00 1996
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From: bks@netcom.com (Bradley K. Sherman)
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No expert on this but I do recall a seminar where the
top three problems in image processing of gels  were
enumerated as:
	o gels tilted during run
        o uneven heat dissipation
        o uneven initial drag caused by suboptimal comb shape

    Hope this helps,
    --bks


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Apr 14 23:00:00 1996
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From: sar@nbri.sirnetd.ernet.in ("Shirish A. Ranade")
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Subject: Gel  Doc. System.
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Hello Netters!


Some months  back I had posted a query re: a Gel Doc. System. Based
 on  the replies I got then as well as a survey of the various
models available for ssale to India, I have narrowed down the
possible models of choice for me to just 2.

1. The system from Pharmacia
2. The Nighthawk system from PDI.

While the Camera and other system details are comparable, what I
wish to know is the  utility of the respective softwares of these 2
firms for carrying out RAPD analysis. Pharmacia gives IMAGEMASTER
software while PDI is offering me DISCOVERY ssoftware. Are there
any among you who have used either or noth of these systemms and
softwares? If so, I would be happy to receive any feedback from you
about these ssystems. I will be finalising my Indent in the next 10
to 15 days.

I DO NOT WAAANNT ANY INFORMATION FROM THE MANUFACTURERS OR THEIR
REPRESENTATIVES SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF LITERATURE AND FLIERS
FROM THEM.

Reply at my personal e-mail address as given below.

Thanks in advance for any help and information received.

Shirish RANADE




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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 15 23:00:00 1996
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We found a simple way to eliminate migration distortion from submarine 
agarose gels.  If your gel tank has a space between the lid and the wall of 
the tank (e.g. Owl Scientific apparatus), you can force room temp air into 
the space to help remove the heat that collects in the air space between the 
buffer and the lid.  We use a very small cheapo-cheapo desktop fan, and 
direct the airstream at the aforementioned space.  We can now increase the 
voltage, which greatly shortens the run time, and still obtain very straight 
patterns.

Best regards and good luck!

--Bob in the Idaho high desert


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Tue Apr 16 23:00:00 1996
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From: biohelp (BIOSCI Administrator)
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Subject: IMPORTANT - BIOSCI Fundraising Update!
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	    BIOSCI is about halfway to its funding goal!!

I'm interrupting the usual monthly posting of the BIOSCI miniFAQ to
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Apr 21 23:00:00 1996
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From: "Cynthia S. Smagula" <" biota"@onramp.net>
Newsgroups: bionet.molbio.rapd
Subject: Rapid access to web bioresources
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:18:53 -0600
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BIOINFORMATION  ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB:  An Annotated Directory of 
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research and funding resources.  

More information is available at http://www.biota.com/biota

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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sun Apr 21 23:00:00 1996
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From: crespi@sfu.ca (Bernard Crespi)
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Subject: f-statistics
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:44:07 +0000
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Our lab is interested in recommendations for software (any platform, Mac
preferred) to do f-statistics on rapd data.  

Is there a last word on using AMOVA?

Thank you in advance,
Dave Carmean  carmean@sfu.ca

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Mon Apr 22 23:00:00 1996
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From: nstewart@GOODALL.UNCG.EDU ("Neal Stewart")
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Subject: amova for rapds
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Hi: One of the latter words about amova, is that Laurant Excoffier and I 
have a manuscript in press that deals with the use of amova for 
rapds.  It will be published very soon in the Journal of Evolutionary 
Biology.  At last word, the changes we suggest in the analysis will 
be incorporated into the amova program.   More later. Cheers, Neal  
dnatransgenicsplantsphysiologycanolasoy
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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Apr 24 23:00:00 1996
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From: Susan Jane Hogarth <sjhogart@unity.ncsu.edu>
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Subject: Re: RAPD Quality
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:47:44 -0400
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Gary Lum wrote:
> 
> A paper I submitted a while ago criticised my use of RAPD and said I should have performed PFGE.  

PFGE how? Did they want you to anchor some RAPDs by hybridising to chromosome blots, or
what? What organism are you working with?
-- 


Susan Jane Hogarth

"Luck is the residue of design." -- Freddy the Fish 

"Personally, I'm always ready to learn, although I do not always like being
taught." -- Winston Churchill

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From: Susan Jane Hogarth <sjhogart@unity.ncsu.edu>
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Gary Lum wrote:
> 
> A paper I submitted a while ago criticised my use of RAPD and said I should have performed PFGE.  What can I
> do to increase the robustness of my RAPD besides using separate primers, a constant technique and a constant
> thermal cycler?
>

*Vary* all of the parameters you metioned above, and get the same results. That would be
impressive...
-- 


Susan Jane Hogarth

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From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Apr 24 23:00:00 1996
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From: k9mhc@.rfhsm.ac.uk (Mr Vid Mohan-Ram)
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Subject: pfge
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what IS pfge??

cheers

vid


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Wed Apr 24 23:00:00 1996
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From: Gary Lum <glum@ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RAPD Quality
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A paper I submitted a while ago criticised my use of RAPD and said I should have performed PFGE.  What can I 
do to increase the robustness of my RAPD besides using separate primers, a constant technique and a constant 
thermal cycler?

Any help appreciated.
-- 
Hope you're having a good day
Why don't you visit my Home Page http://www.ozemail.com.au/~glum/

From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Fri Apr 26 23:00:00 1996
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From: lgeller@csulb.edu (Louis Geller)
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Subject: Re: pfge
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Mr Vid Mohan-Ram (k9mhc@.rfhsm.ac.uk) wrote:
: what IS pfge??
: 
: cheers
: 
: vid
: 

-- 
	pfge is Pulsed Field Gel Electrophoresis.  It is a technique for
the separation of large DNA pieces, even whole Chromosomes.  It uses
electrical fields that go in many directions, not just up and down.  The
gel is placed in a circle, and the fields run through the gel, in many
directions.  By doing so, the DNA molecules are permitted to re-orient
themselves periodically, since the direction of the field is changed every
few seconds or so. 
	Perhaps for a better explanation, try Biorad or Hoeffer scientific
- they probably have a technical bulletin that can be of more help.  Hope
this helps some
	
	Louis Geller
	Graduate Student, Department of Biology
	lgeller@csulb.edu


From owner-rapd@net.bio.net Sat Apr 27 23:00:00 1996
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From: sgriffit@rpc.unb.ca (Steve Griffiths)
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Subject: RAPD / AP PCR and Context effect
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   I have been using various manifestations of RAPD for about 3 years to 
characterize bacterial pathogens affecting aquaculture. Recently I have 
attempted to use it to characterize an avirulent mutant of Renibacterium 
salmoninarum causative agent of bacterial kidney disease(BKD) in salmonid 
fish.The idea was that I would go trough about 120 10mers and see if i could 
spin out some bands that would distinguish between the wild type and the 
mutant-- I would subsequently sequence these bands and then extend back over 
the site on the genome which had been found by a distinguishig primer. The 
hope was that iwould find either a bp del./sub. or a bonafide deletion.This 
information would then be used to design a specific PCR test to monitor the 
persistance of the avirulent mutant in field tials if it was used as a 
vaccine.
    Having  found that Stoffel fragment generated simpler patterns than 
regular Taq I stuck with it for this project .Furthermore it always produced 
LMW profiles with bands suitable for direct cloning( ie 300-700) in pCR II.
     Of 120 10mers, 4 produced strikingly different profiles for the mutant 
and wild type; the other profiles were in general identical. The distinguising 
profiles however were all characterized by their simplicity ie 1 intense band 
and a afew other minor bands. Although i was aware of the context effect i 
still had hopes that it would provide me with some pointers to a 
distinguishing region.Unfortunately,the profiles were not very 
reproducible,seemingly affected by  the batch of mastermix used (!!).
      Regardless wew cloned 1 of the distinguishing bands and typical luck, it 
was AT rich and would only amplify when I added TMAC in with the selected 
primers.
       This has become a rather longwinded posting (it's my first attempt to 
get on a naws page) but i would appreciate any observations or suggestions 
regarding the validity of simple profiles . As usual I suppose there is no 
generalization! Thank you for your time folks.
          
         STEVE G

