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Peter Palenchar asks:
> 	Does anybody know a good current source for t-RNA sequence and 
> tertiary structures?

Nucleic Acids Research publishes a special issue cataloging sequence
databases every two years. Sprinzl et al.'s tRNA database is in it.  The
articles reference online sources. Try ftp.embl-heidelberg.de.

As for structures, Francis Ouelette recently posted a list of the tRNA
structures in the PDB to this group. Like all Biosci groups, it's archived.

Cheers,

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you can tell me how  to join the net.bio.net
I am a graduate student at National Taiwan University
So far, I study biochemistry in Department of Biochemistry.
I research about RNA level for the toxicity(Humic acid).
And to know how it affect the RNA level.
I would be glad to see the information from the net.bio.net


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     I am a student at the University of Manitoba with a question about 
isolating RNA, for anyone who can spare the time...i have recently isolated 
RNA from the ovaries of the insect Rhodnius prolixus using TRIZOL from Gibco; 
the product contains a strong 18S rRNA band, but the 26S rRNA band is absent. 
 I have been schooled to believe that if these bands are intact (which they 
are, sort of), one can be reasonably confident that they have good quality 
RNA.  Has anyone else run into this before?  Is there any other simple (and 
inexpensive) way to test RNA integrity?  I would greatly appreciate any 
feedback!

Chris Bjornsson


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Subject: IMPORTANT: BIOSCI miniFAQ

(LAST REVISION: 08-DEC-95)

This is a new "miniFAQ" designed to answer the questions that come up
the *most frequently*.  The main BIOSCI FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) is accessible on the World Wide Web at URL
http://www.bio.net/.

	Contents:
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	1) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.

	2) Examples of subscribing and unsubscribing to the mailing lists.

	3) How to access BIOSCI/bionet newsgroup archives.

	4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.


1) What to do about "spams," i.e., junk mail, ads, etc.
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BIOSCI is a set of parallel USENET newsgroups (the "bionet" groups)
and mailing lists.  The same postings are distributed on both media
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usual, somewhat boneheaded, net terminology.  USENET is more
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What should you do personally if you get junk mail?
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What can BIOSCI/bionet do to protect its newsgroups?
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Please do not assume that by simply posting a complaint to the
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We will moderate any of our newsgroups if the discussion leader tells
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Moderating a newsgroup will resolve probably 95% of the junk postings
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groups, this will give you yet another way, besides using USENET news,
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Users in the Americas and Pacific Rim countries who use the BIOSCI
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A) Determine the "listname" which is the <=8 character mail address
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3) How to access BIOSCI/bionet newsgroup archives.
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Back postings of all BIOSCI/bionet newsgroups can be found on the
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help

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4) The BIOSCI user address and research interest directory.
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Please take this opportunity to add your name, address, and research
interest information to the BIOSCI User Address Database if you have
not already done so.

You can fill out the address form directly through our Web page at URL
http://www.bio.net/adrform.html.

The address database is reindexed nightly for WWW access (the URL is
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				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson
				BIOSCI/bionet Manager

				biosci-help@net.bio.net

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I'm forwarding this to the rna mailing list ...

happy holidays to all,

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The First Annual Meeting of the RNA Society will take place from 28th 
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Are there any crystal structures of RNA (including oligonucleotides) and
RNA-protein complexes published in 1995 ? 
	A grad student interested in progress made by crystallographer.

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Are there any crystal structures of RNA (including oligonucleotides) and
RNA-protein complexes published in 1995 ?
        A grad student interested in progress made by crystallographers.

