Michael Posthuma mposthuma at
Mon Sep 9 02:31:00 EST 1996

Don Staples wrote:
> No problem Vince, there is a great deal of difference between the biome in
> eastern Canada (the source of my forebearers) and the subtropical Texas Gulf
> Coast.  Furry snacks multiply like, well, rats.  And the US Parks and Wildlife
> people control populations and locations of Red Cockaded Woodpeckers with nest
> boxes placed in other wise unsuitable trees.  the predators that follow very
> closely behind are the red and grey foxes, coyotes, and bob cats.  One year
> after a clear cut in the south you cannot easily make your way through the
> clearing.  Prime rodent habitate in lush grass and forb growth.  Five years
> later and you will not move through the clearing for hard wood brush and what
> ever planted seedling is out there, some where around 15 you can see day
> light, and the process starts over at 25 to 30.
> Much of the sothern game and non game species rely on the edge effect, perfect
> in plantation works, when done right.
> Our endangered species in Texas are on the rebound, due to corporate concern,
> as well as governmental.  My problem is that they don't recognize all the
> endangered species, I think black bear and cougar should be listed as
> endangered, yet are ignored.
> Good thoughts, guys and girls, that is what the net is all about, keep up the
> conversation.
> In article <504542$bog_001 at> marvin at (Vince Zelazny)
> writes:>From: marvin at (Vince Zelazny)
> >Subject: Re: Biodiversity
> >Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 13:14:42 GMT
> >I wish I was as confident as Don is about all the furry snacks and habitat etc
> >yielded by clearcuts, plantations and nest boxes.  Reminds me of a joke I
> >heard the other day.  An ecologist (forester), an economist, and a
> >statistician went bow hunting for deer, and sure enough a deer sprang into the
> >clearing in front of them.  The ecologist aimed and shot, five feet wide to
> >the left.  The economist aimed and shot, five feet wide to the right.  The
> >statistician then jumped up and down for joy, shouting "We got it! We got it!"
> >I like plantations, but we gotta have those wild forests too.  Actually,
> >artificial nest cavities were tried here (eastern Canada) in spruce
> >plantations.  Four foot cedar chunks had holes excavated in them and were then
> >mounted about 10 ft off the ground on poles.  The birds loved them (and the
> >carpenter ants did too), but there were no birds with preference for the older
> >mixedwoods common to the area found in the boxes.  Typically they found
> >flickers and kestrels; birds of the open habitat typical of young plantations.
> > They even put some of these in older mixedwoods, but they were shunned by the
> >pileated woodpeckers in favour of the real thing.  I can dredge up the title
> >of the report if anybody wants it.
> >a forester too
> >VinceHAHA

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