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McKenney d_mckenney at conknet.com
Mon Oct 6 22:59:10 EST 1997

I stand by my statement and I know plenty  about marking and selling
timber; tramp metal in marked trees, barbed wire in boundary trees, and
working with loggers on timber sales after having sold timber and chased
boundary lines for 20 plus years just up the road from the socialist
republic of Massachusetts. 

Don Staples <dstaples at livingston.net> wrote in article
<3436D031.2304 at livingston.net>...
> Joseph Zorzin wrote:
> > 
> > McKenney wrote:
> > >
> > > Excuse me, it is entirely conceivable that one could drive a spike in
> > > tree and not have it seen by a logger and not found until hit by a
saw or,
> > > perhaps, found by a metal detector.
> > >
> > 
> > Conceivable but not likely. Believe me, loggers look very close at
> > trees. I mark trees for cutting on harvests. Then I "show" the timber
> > prospective buyers. As I walk around showing the marked trees, if any
> > trees have even a little nail in it 10' off the ground, I can be SURE
> > that all the loggers will point this out and say "I hope you deducted
> > your board foot tally on that tree with the nail it." A spike is not
> > invisible and it is going to leave a hole if you drive it completely.
> > How can it NOT be seen? I've never met a logger yet who isn't several
> > times more intelligent than your typical state or federal forestry
> > bureaucrat. <G> (dodging for cover). I'm serious about this. Around
> > most loggers are self employed businessmen- and it takes a LOT more
> > smarts and hard work than being a paper shuffler. The only time they
> > metal is when some idiot drove a nail into the tree 50 years ago, or a
> > bullet. Even fencing isn't usually a problem because most of this metal
> > is on boundaries and boundary trees shouldn't be cut anyways- and even
> > then they can see remnants of the wire and cut ABOVE it leaving hideous
> > looking high stumps; which is why I NEVER mark trees with old wire in
> > it.
> Aw, come on Joseph, bullet pocked pannelling is attractive in the den or
> gun room.
> Most of the metal in a tree will leave a scar, unless, as noted, a long
> way back.  Modern metal will leave a callus, even the "stealth" ceramic
> spike (how would you drive that one?) leaves a hole.  Small bits dont
> usually hurt the mill or operaters.  Staples, fence wire, bullets, and
> typical small nails will bust an insert, maybe throw some sparks.  But
> 16's and better can cause havoc.
> -- 
> Don Staples
> My Ego Stroke:  http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/

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