ACF Update

Joseph Zorzin redoak at
Sat Apr 25 14:28:53 EST 1998

Don Staples wrote:
> Joseph Zorzin wrote:
> >
> > And even without clear-cut bans on erosion prone slopes, perhaps loggers
> > should be held accountable IF the slope erodes for all the damage that
> > ensues- to the environment and to all man made structures; and to ensure
> > that the loggers can be have financial responsibility, they'll have to
> > buy insurance for this purpose, then the insurance industry, not wanting
> > to lose millions, will be very careful about insuring risky areas.
> >
> But where does a 500 or 1000 year El Nino fit into the picture?  Does
> the logger plan for the "average" rain fall?  And for what period of
> time should the logger be liable?  The land owner is liable for his
> property, and the effects of it on others, how long do you hold him/her
> responsible if every thing is jake and El Nino washes the mountain away?

If it's obvious that the slide occured as a result of the logging, El
Nino or no El Nino, the landowner and his agents (loggers) must bear
respsonibility. No?

After all, landowners enjoy those property rights and property rights
come with responsibilities.


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