Ice Storm & NY Maples

J. Fiske jfiske at
Thu Jan 22 21:59:11 EST 1998

That's the point ... it's not just limb loss. Some of these old mother-huggers are
split from stem to stern, or just plain fell down from all the extra weight in the
crown. Even the ones with "just" limb loss are subject to all kinds of fungus and
rot invasion (remember Dr. Shigo?) and degrade from same.

Look, please take my word for it, I've been a field forester in New York for over
twenty years. This ain't just media hype, we have now and will have for the short
term future, a pretty fair size problem.To put it in perspective, it probably ain't
up there with Clinton's recent sexual peccadillos, but for the folks who live with
it everyday, it's a mess. And for the folks who had their life - savings tied up in
land and timber it's a real problem (sort of like "Black Tuesday" for the stock
market). We have wide spread and serious tree damage.

Long term, of course, the successional pathway for this part of the country is to
forest of one flavor or another (don't have a lot of native prarie in New York). I
don't think anything short of a drastic shift in climate is going to change that!

Larry Caldwell wrote:

> In article <19980119202800.PAA23435 at>,
> forestfair at (ForestFair) wrote:
> > As for the "motivations" to play the ice storm up, it looks like you're not
> > familiar with many rural upstate New Yorkers (and New Englanders).
> > Generalizing, they are people who would do without before asking for help, but
> > would rush to assist a neighbor in need.  They won't ask for help unless
> > they're desperate.
> It's too bad people are without power, but back to forestry.
> I've been a little surprised at the hooting and hollering about maple trees
> losing a few limbs.  Maybe New England maple are different.  Here in Oregon
> we deal mostly with broadleaf maple and vine maple.  You can't kill a vine
> maple if you try.  Broadleaf maple are a little bit less hardy, but
> standard practice to recondition urban broadleaf maple is to whack all the
> branches off, leaving about 3 feet of stub.  In short order the tree will
> grow a new crown.  It doesn't hurt the tree at all, though it slows down
> the growth for about 5 years.
> The only time we ever lose a maple is when it tips over and exposes the
> root ball.  I'm pretty much with Steve, I think a lot of the ice damage
> is just media hype.  If the trunk is still sound, the tree will probably
> recover just fine.
> -- Larry

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