fwd: Rick Bass on logging roads
mike at mail.ntsource.com
Sat Jan 24 21:28:43 EST 1998
> > A couple years ago, the owners of a LARGE tract of land next to my
> > property in the U.P. began trespassing on my land during deer
> > and grouse season(part of it is an old apple orchard).
> Is yours posted? If so why? That's just ONE of the things that most
> the UP residents hate about you and people like you. You come up, buy
> postage stamp piece of property, and post the hell out of it. People
> like you are so incredible obsessed with "This is MINE and that is
No, my land is not posted. I will even let people fish the trout
stream on my property, as long as they don't litter. The people who
own the bass lake(they are locals) have signs posted everywhere. This
fact made me upset when I found they were hunting on my property. To
post signs all over, then to
go hunt on someone elses land is rude.
> The reason many UP residents post their property is because of the
> tourists like yourself that don't have any respect for the property
> they are on. Walking through a tract of land is one thing, leaving
> garbage, cutting trees down, reckless hunting, and tearing up the
> with RV's and ATVs is another. While those may not directly relate to
> how treat other peoples land Muskie, it is the majority of the
> recreational tourists behavior.
I don't use ATV's. In fact, most of the ATV riders and dirt bike
riders I have met in the U.P. are locals. I even witnessed one drunken
ATV rider( I met him before, he was a local) riding his quad up a trout
stream, ripping up spawning gravel. He was trying to go UPSTREAM, in
his quad, like it was sopme sort of a trail. I also had the pleasure
of watching two drunken locals trying to run over a small aspen tree in
thier old chevy pickup. One of the men called his truck the
"Valdez, because it leaked so much oil". They would creep up to the
tree, put on the gas and try to mow it over. Then they would reverse the
truck, and try it again. I would have said something had they not been
carrying loaded handguns.
I don't even use a snowmobile, I snowshoe. As for the garbage, I
am constantly picking up beer cans left behind by some slobs. When
I go to several accesabile holes on the trout stream and pick beer cans
and bottles off the stream bottom. When I fish, I carry a large hefty
bag in my backpack to pick up trash left by slob fisherman and campers.
I find it hard to belive that people could be so inconsiderate. There
a BIG increase in people littering the U.P. lately. It was not like
this ten years ago. To say it is all tourists is a mistake. The area
where my property is
is quite remote, and I have yet to meet many tourists at all. The
area around the
Porkies is different, as that is a popular state park. If you want me
to go on and on about my new local neighbor, just say the word.
> Personaly, when I bought my land in northern MN it was posted. The
> thing I did was take down the signs.
And your point is?
> Personaly, I dought the validity of this tale of yours. If this WAS
> case, it doesn't sound like that big a deal. That being true, one has
> wonder WHY you have not responded earlier to the repeated requests
> the last 6 months? Would it be because those requests were only in
> alt.great-lakes? Now that this message was cross posted to your
> in the other environmental newsgroup and made you look bad, you had to
> come up with a story.
Thats the story. If you don't like it, feel free to embelish and
add-lib to it.
> > They still continue to do so, and I took it upon myself to sneak
> > and fish their virgin bass lake.The best bass fishing I have EVER
> > Caught two 8 pound bass in one weekend, plus a slew of 5-6 pounders.
> If they continue to do so, then whay don't you take legal measures
> against them. Ever here of 2 wrongs don't make a right? Your little
> for tat game only verifies your childish, short sighted attitudes that
> many here in alt.great-lakes were already aware of.
Who are you to decide what is childish? Besides, I needed a good
to fish a PRISTINE bass lake.
> > We released them all. Yes, I always have a license carry a valid
> > Michigan fishing license.
> Ya? So? Should I be proud of you doing the right thing? Want me to pat
> you on the back? Good Muskie! Good Muskie! ...pat...pat...pat...
> I really don't see why you throw out comments like this. It's
> The only reason for it, is to plant the notion (an INCORRECT one at
> in others heads, that I don't believe in using hunting/fishing
Oh, I figured Al would post up and accuse me of being a poacher.
I added that so he wouldn't waste his time replying.
> > Happy now?
> Yes, thank you. And I must say, it's about time.
Darren, when is the last time you have hiked or camped in the U.P.?
You seem to have all the opinions about the U.P., but those opinions
never get validated by any recent experiences. I don't even think you
are a sportsman. I think you like to claim that you fish and hunt,
but when have you?
Your opinions on the U.P. will be Voided until you can validate them
with recent experiences in the U.P. Otherwise, this "debate" is
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