Grand Fir ID?

Mike Hagen mhagen at
Mon Jun 8 18:46:18 EST 1998

I think the term "lowland" is relative. It may grow high up but it is
largest on the alluvial flats. "Pissfirs" can take a lot of drought
too. Excessively drained soils are no problem. This can be a big tree
at 250 feet and 72" in diameter. So give it lots of room! The needles
look planar compared to Doug fir.

Larry Harrell wrote:
> ForestFair <forestfair at> wrote in article
> <1998060817450700.NAA14082 at>...
> > A few years ago, I bought what was labelled "Douglas Fir" at an arboretum
> plant
> > sale, because it looked fuller than most of the Douglas firs I'd seen.
> >
> > Now a forester friend tells me he thinks it's a Grand Fir, but being an
> > easterner like me, he's not certain.  My detailed tree guides are all
> Eastern
> > editions.
> >
> > Are there any distinguishing characteristics to look for?  It's wider
> (almost
> > an equilateral triangle) than most similarly-sized firs and spruces;
> whether
> > this is its natural form, or the result of a broken terminal a couple of
> years
> > ago, I don't know.
> >
> > ForestFair
> The biggest difference between Doug-fir and Grand fir is that Doug-fir has
> the large and pointed buds at the tips. Grand fir has much smaller buds.
> Grand fir needles are two-ranked while Doug fir is more of a bottle brush
> arrangement. White fir is quite similar to Grand fir and I'm not really
> sure, off the top of my head, what those differences are. Mainly location
> seems to help me. Grand fir is also known as lowland white fir but I have
> seen it at relatively high elevations.
>                                                                 Larry
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