EARTHDANCE: Living Systems in Evolution by Elisabet Sahtouris

Don Harris sound at
Sun Mar 29 10:10:27 EST 1998

I agree with Joe 100% and I am glad their are people like Randy to take issue.
Don Harris

Joseph Zorzin wrote:

> RandyFulle wrote:
> >
> > Pretty presumtive of you to assume foresters are neither envioronmental nor
> > understand the concept of Gaia.
> >
> Well you might be, having a PHD; but get out there with the "working
> stiff" foresters.
> I very often hear foresters use the word "environmentalist" in an
> extremely negative way (including in this newsgroup), and this includes
> some people I know who have fairly high jobs in the USFS, and some
> higher ups in the state of Mass. DEM.
> And for sure your typical industrial forester- many of whom have 2 year
> technical school training- has little environmental understanding and
> certainly hasn't heard about the "Gaia" concept.
> Environmentalists have rightly rebelled against foresters for the
> massive clearcuts, erosion, monocultures, lack of concern for non game
> wildlife, little understanding of endangered species, etc. And the
> foresters haven't been too happy about such criticism.
> So I think it's presumptive of you to use that word presumptive with me.
> It is a fact that the forestry profession and the environmental movement
> have been at each other's throats for a couple of generations and this
> wouldn't be happening if foresters had a better understanding of the
> "other" side.
> If the forestry profession really got it's act together - it would could
> avoid all the controversy- by becomming more environmental than the non
> forester environmentalists- anticipate the complaints and have good
> answers for those problems- instead of always stubbornly reacting to the
> complaints- ending up fighting in court for years- so that the national
> forest policies swing from one extreme to the other depending on what
> political philosophy holds power.
> Joe Zorzin

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