[Fwd: forestry-focus Change in SAF-news]

D. Staples dstaples at livingston.net
Tue Sep 26 11:59:20 EST 2000


Yup, cannot have radical free thinkers in the group.  Might upset the status quo.  Cause real thought.
Force them to hear things they don't want to hear.  See positions they fail to appreciate.  Actually have
to talk to mud booted foresters, disgusting.

Joseph Zorzin wrote:

> Wow, as you all can see- the SAF is freaking out. They're
> pulling up the drawbridge and closing ranks. <G> They gotta
> drive out the heretics. <G> I think panic is setting in -
> they're going paranoid. All decadent organizations do that just
> before they go belly up.
>
> --
> Joe  Zorzin
> http://forestmeister.com
>
> "If you can’t say something nice, say something surrealistic."
> Zippy the Pinhead
>
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> Subject: forestry-focus Change in SAF-news
> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:09:33 -0700
> From: Jennifer Plyler <plylerj at safnet.org>
> Reply-To: forestry-focus at igc.topica.com
> To: forestry-focus at igc.topica.com
>
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> SAF-news Participants
>
> Many SAF-news participants have recently communicated to the Society of
> American Foresters (SAF) National Office staff that SAF-news has digressed
> from its original intent to become "a vehicle for slander, open flaming, and
> overtly rude, and sarcastic postings of participants." Consequently, two
> major changes have been made to SAF-news.
>
> First, we have changed the name from SAF-news to Forestry Focus to more
> accurately reflect the intent of the discussion list. Forestry Focus is
> intended to serve the broad conservation community as a tool to exchange
> information and ideas about forestry and natural resource issues.
>
> Secondly, after careful consideration and thorough examination of other
> discussion lists with similar missions, we have decided to enlist the
> assistance of two SAF members, Steve Wilent and David Swenk, to serve as
> moderators for this list. From this point forward, all messages will be
> screened prior to posting to ensure that they adhere to the new guidelines
> established by this group of SAF volunteers. The SAF National Office will
> continue to sponsor Forestry Focus but the moderators, acting independently
> of the national office staff, will serve as administrators of the list.
>
> No e-mail addresses have been added or deleted from this list. However, by
> continuing to subscribe to this list, you are agreeing to the new
> guidelines, rules, and moderation processes established by the moderators
> and outlined below. If at any time you feel that you cannot adhere to the
> new guidelines, rules, or moderation processes, please unsubscribe your
> e-mail by sending a blank message to
> <mailto:forestry-forum-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com>
> forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com.
>
> The posting of messages may be delayed until the new system is in place and
> all the nuances have been worked out. We appreciate your patience during
> this transition time.
>
> We welcome your comments and feedback on the new format of this discussion
> list so that we may better determine if it is meeting your needs. Please
> direct comments to Jennifer Plyler, SAF Communications Manager at:
> plylerj at safnet.org, (301) 897-8720, ext. 117, or fax (301) 897-3690.
>
> We look forward to your continued participation in Forestry Focus.
>
>
>
> William H. Banzhaf
>
> SAF Executive Vice President
>
> (new welcome message)
>
> Welcome to Forestry Focus
>
> Welcome to Forestry Focus, formally SAF-news, sponsored by the Society of
> American Foresters (SAF) located in Bethesda, MD. Forestry Focus is a
> moderated list that has been established for those interested in discussing
> forestry and natural resource issues. It is intended to serve as a way for
> the conservation community to exchange information and ideas about forestry
> and natural resource issues.
>
> This list is moderated, which means that a volunteer group of Society of
> American Foresters' (SAF) members screens all messages prior to posting them
> to the entire group. By screening messages, it ensures that they adhere to
> the rules, guidelines, and moderation processes outlined below.
>
> Although SAF does not censor or undertake editorial control of messages
> posted, the Society wants to maintain the integrity and objective of the
> discussion list. Therefore, the following rules, guidelines, and moderation
> process will regulate list usage. By participating in this discussion list,
> you agree to adhere to the rules, guidelines, and moderation process
> established by the moderators. If at any time you feel that you cannot
> adhere to these guidelines, please unsubscribe your e-mail by sending a
> blank message to  <mailto:saf-news-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com>
> forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com.
>
>
>
> Rules
>
> Flaming is prohibited. A flame is when you call someone names, are overtly
> rude, or are blatantly sarcastic or condescending. Anything worth saying
> can, and must, be stated in polite terms. Comments that are intended only to
> enrage the recipient rather than contribute to thoughtful discussion are
> prohibited.
>
> Profanity and vulgarity is prohibited.
>
> Advertisements are prohibited.
>
> Spam and sales pitches are not allowed. (Yes, we know you free email
> folks--like Juno and Hot Mail--can't get around your emails having a Juno or
> Hot Mail footer. That's ok.)
>
> Publicizing items of potential interest to list members, such as new
> releases of software packages, publications, conferences etc. is permissible
> and encouraged.
>
> Do not post off-topic. Messages may address any broad forestry or natural
> resources related issues, and the moderators will give considerable leeway.
> Virus warnings are strongly discouraged.
>
>         1.5 Posting of copyrighted material. According to U.S. copyright
> law, posting copyrighted material on the SAF listserver is legal, if it is
> intended for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching,
> scholarship, or research. This includes whole articles or portions of
> articles. Whenever you post such material, cite the title of the work,
> author, source (name of newspaper, magazine, book title, website, or other
> source), publication date, and website address where the material may be
> found (if available). For long articles, it's best to include only brief
> excerpts in listserv messages, accompanied by information about how to
> locate the full text.
>
> 6.      Anonymous messages will not be forwarded to the list. If there is a
> compelling reason why your identity should be withheld then you should
> present your case to the moderator.
>
>         1.7 Protect yourself and others against computer viruses. Files
> attached to messages, such as Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, or any
> other file that you can open and run, may carry viruses. Such infected files
> can be spread through listservers or by ordinary e-mail messages. To prevent
> your computer from becoming infected, it's a good practice to have virus
> detection software installed on your computer and to delete, without
> opening, any files from unknown or untrustworthy sources.
>
> Guidelines
>
> Format
>
> The preferred format for list messages is plain text. Subscribers whose mail
> clients default to other formats such as HTML should configure them to send
> plain text when posting to the list. Sending MIME file attachments of any
> kind is discouraged because subscribers with plain text mail cannot read
> them.
>
> Limit the total size of your message to 10k.
>
> Limit your signature file to 8 lines or less.
>
> To make it easier for all who read the posts, cut out all of the original
> post except the few sentences that you are replying to. Also, note who
> originally said what when quoting.
>
> Put a descriptive subject on your original message. Title your response to
> be Re: followed by the subject of the actual message to which you are
> responding. When replying to a digest post, change the subject line in your
> message.
>
> Content
>
> Say something substantial. Simply saying "I agree" (in so many words) or "I
> disagree" (in so many words) does not meet this guideline.
>
> Say something new. Mere redundancy will not convince an opponent of their
> error.
>
> Just because you "get in the last word" doesn't mean you won the argument.
>
> If you have a business connection to a product or service mentioned in your
> post, this should be clear to anyone reading the message.
>
> Moderation Process
>
> Violation of a Rule will result in the message being omitted from the list,
> and the poster will be issued a warning.
>
> Excessive or flagrant violation of the Guidelines may result in issuance of
> a warning.
>
> After two warnings, violators will be removed from the list without notice.
>
> If several messages are returned to the listserver for whatever reason (full
> mailbox, server problems, etc.), the member will be unsubscribed without
> warning.
>
>
>
> Discussion List Reminders
>
> If you leave on vacation, please DO NOT set an automatic reply. This
> function results in an extraordinary amount of messages to the moderators.
> Simply remove yourself from the discussion list and re-subscribe when you
> return.
>
> To post messages to Forestry Focus, send a message with subject heading to
> forestry-focus at igc.topica.com.
>
> To unsubscribe from Forestry Focus, send a blank message to
> forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com.
>
> SAF does reserve the right to cease the sponsorship of Forestry Focus at any
> time, if based on feedback from participants, the discussions are
> unproductive or no longer meeting their professional needs.
>
> Any specific questions or concerns about Forestry Focus should be directed
> to Jennifer Plyler, SAF Communications Manager at: plylerj at safnet.org, (301)
> 897-8720, ext. 117, or fax (301) 897-3690. For more information about SAF
> visit us at www.safnet.org.
>
> SAF is the national scientific and educational organization representing the
> forestry profession in the United States. The mission of SAF is to advance
> the science, education, technology, and practice of forestry; to enhance the
> competency of its members; to establish standards of professional
> excellence; and to use the knowledge, skills, and conservation ethic of the
> profession to ensure the continued health and use of forest ecosystems and
> the present and future availability of
>
> forest resources to benefit society.
>
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> <P>SAF-news Participants</P></B>
> <P>Many SAF-news participants have recently communicated to the Society of
> American Foresters (SAF) National Office staff that SAF-news has digressed from
> its original intent to become "a vehicle for slander, open flaming, and overtly
> rude, and sarcastic postings of participants." Consequently, two major changes
> have been made to SAF-news.</P>
> <P>First, we have changed the name from SAF-news to Forestry Focus to more
> accurately reflect the intent of the discussion list. Forestry Focus is intended
> to serve the broad conservation community as a tool to exchange information and
> ideas about forestry and natural resource issues.</P>
> <P>Secondly, after careful consideration and thorough examination of other
> discussion lists with similar missions, we have decided to enlist the assistance
> of two SAF members, Steve Wilent and David Swenk, to serve as moderators for
> this list. From this point forward, all messages will be screened prior to
> posting to ensure that they adhere to the new guidelines established by this
> group of SAF volunteers. The SAF National Office will continue to sponsor
> Forestry Focus but the moderators, acting independently of the national office
> staff, will serve as administrators of the list. </P>
> <P>No e-mail addresses have been added or deleted from this list. However, by
> continuing to subscribe to this list, you are agreeing to the new guidelines,
> rules, and moderation processes established by the moderators and outlined
> below. If at any time you feel that you cannot adhere to the new guidelines,
> rules, or moderation processes, please unsubscribe your e-mail by sending a
> blank message to </FONT><A
> href="mailto:forestry-forum-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com"><FONT face=Arial
> size=2>forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
> size=2>.</P>
> <P>The posting of messages may be delayed until the new system is in place and
> all the nuances have been worked out. We appreciate your patience during this
> transition time.</P>
> <P>We welcome your comments and feedback on the new format of this discussion
> list so that we may better determine if it is meeting your needs. Please direct
> comments to Jennifer Plyler, SAF Communications Manager at: plylerj at safnet.org,
> (301) 897-8720, ext. 117, or fax (301) 897-3690.</P>
> <P>We look forward to your continued participation in Forestry Focus.</P>
> <P>&nbsp;</P>
> <P>William H. Banzhaf</P>
> <P>SAF Executive Vice President</P><B>
> <P>(new welcome message)</P>
> <P>Welcome to Forestry Focus</P></B>
> <P>Welcome to Forestry Focus, formally SAF-news, sponsored by the Society of
> American Foresters (SAF) located in Bethesda, MD. Forestry Focus is a moderated
> list that has been established for those interested in discussing forestry and
> natural resource issues. It is intended to serve as a way for the conservation
> community to exchange information and ideas about forestry and natural resource
> issues.</P>
> <P>This list is moderated, which means that a volunteer group of Society of
> American Foresters&#8217; (SAF) members screens all messages prior to posting them to
> the entire group. By screening messages, it ensures that they adhere to the
> rules, guidelines, and moderation processes outlined below. </P>
> <P>Although SAF does not censor or undertake editorial control of messages
> posted, the Society wants to maintain the integrity and objective of the
> discussion list. Therefore, the following rules, guidelines, and moderation
> process will regulate list usage. By participating in this discussion list, you
> agree to adhere to the rules, guidelines, and moderation process established by
> the moderators. If at any time you feel that you cannot adhere to these
> guidelines, please unsubscribe your e-mail by sending a blank message
> to</FONT><A href="mailto:saf-news-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com"><FONT face=Arial
> size=2> forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
> size=2>. </P>
> <P>&nbsp;</P><B>
> <P>Rules</P></B>
> <P>Flaming is prohibited. A flame is when you call someone names, are overtly
> rude, or are blatantly sarcastic or condescending. Anything worth saying can,
> and must, be stated in polite terms. Comments that are intended only to enrage
> the recipient rather than contribute to thoughtful discussion are
> prohibited.</P>
> <P>Profanity and vulgarity is prohibited.</P>
> <P>Advertisements are prohibited.</P>
> <P>Spam and sales pitches are not allowed. (Yes, we know you free email
> folks--like Juno and Hot Mail--can't get around your emails having a Juno or Hot
> Mail footer. That's ok.)</P>
> <P>Publicizing items of potential interest to list members, such as new releases
> of software packages, publications, conferences etc. is permissible and
> encouraged.</P>
> <P>Do not post off-topic. Messages may address any broad forestry or natural
> resources related issues, and the moderators will give considerable leeway.
> Virus warnings are strongly discouraged.</P>
> <DIR>
> <DIR>
> <P>1.5 Posting of copyrighted material. According to U.S. copyright law, posting
> copyrighted material on the SAF listserver is legal, if it is intended for
> purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or
> research. This includes whole articles or portions of articles. Whenever you
> post such material, cite the title of the work, author, source (name of
> newspaper, magazine, book title, website, or other source), publication date,
> and website address where the material may be found (if available). For long
> articles, it's best to include only brief excerpts in listserv messages,
> accompanied by information about how to locate the full text. </P></DIR></DIR>
> <OL start=6>
>   <OL start=6>
>     <LI>Anonymous messages will not be forwarded to the list. If there is a
>     compelling reason why your identity should be withheld then you should
>     present your case to the moderator.</LI></OL></OL>
> <DIR>
> <P>1.7 Protect yourself and others against computer viruses. Files attached to
> messages, such as Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, or any other file that you
> can open and run, may carry viruses. Such infected files can be spread through
> listservers or by ordinary e-mail messages. To prevent your computer from
> becoming infected, it&#8217;s a good practice to have virus detection software
> installed on your computer and to delete, without opening, any files from
> unknown or untrustworthy sources.</P></DIR><B>
> <P>Guidelines</P></B>
> <P>Format</P>
> <P>The preferred format for list messages is plain text. Subscribers whose mail
> clients default to other formats such as HTML should configure them to send
> plain text when posting to the list. Sending MIME file attachments of any kind
> is discouraged because subscribers with plain text mail cannot read them.</P>
> <P>Limit the total size of your message to 10k. </P>
> <P>Limit your signature file to 8 lines or less.</P>
> <P>To make it easier for all who read the posts, cut out all of the original
> post except the few sentences that you are replying to. Also, note who
> originally said what when quoting.</P>
> <P>Put a descriptive subject on your original message. Title your response to be
> Re: followed by the subject of the actual message to which you are responding.
> When replying to a digest post, change the subject line in your message.</P>
> <P>Content</P>
> <P>Say something substantial. Simply saying "I agree" (in so many words) or "I
> disagree" (in so many words) does not meet this guideline. </P>
> <P>Say something new. Mere redundancy will not convince an opponent of their
> error. </P>
> <P>Just because you "get in the last word" doesn't mean you won the argument.
> </P>
> <P>If you have a business connection to a product or service mentioned in your
> post, this should be clear to anyone reading the message.</P><B>
> <P>Moderation Process</P></B>
> <P>Violation of a Rule will result in the message being omitted from the list,
> and the poster will be issued a warning.</P>
> <P>Excessive or flagrant violation of the Guidelines may result in issuance of a
> warning.</P>
> <P>After two warnings, violators will be removed from the list without
> notice.</P>
> <P>If several messages are returned to the listserver for whatever reason (full
> mailbox, server problems, etc.), the member will be unsubscribed without
> warning.</P>
> <P>&nbsp;</P><B>
> <P>Discussion List Reminders </P></B>
> <P>If you leave on vacation, please DO NOT set an automatic reply. This function
> results in an extraordinary amount of messages to the moderators. Simply remove
> yourself from the discussion list and re-subscribe when you return.</P>
> <P>To post messages to Forestry Focus, send a message with subject heading to
> forestry-focus at igc.topica.com.</P>
> <P>To unsubscribe from Forestry Focus, send a blank message to
> forestry-focus-unsubscribe at igc.topica.com.</P>
> <P>SAF does reserve the right to cease the sponsorship of Forestry Focus at any
> time, if based on feedback from participants, the discussions are unproductive
> or no longer meeting their professional needs.</P>
> <P>Any specific questions or concerns about Forestry Focus should be directed to
> Jennifer Plyler, SAF Communications Manager at: plylerj at safnet.org, (301)
> 897-8720, ext. 117, or fax (301) 897-3690. For more information about SAF visit
> us at www.safnet.org.</P>
> <P>SAF is the national scientific and educational organization representing the
> forestry profession in the United States. The mission of SAF is to advance the
> science, education, technology, and practice of forestry; to enhance the
> competency of its members; to establish standards of professional excellence;
> and to use the knowledge, skills, and conservation ethic of the profession to
> ensure the continued health and use of forest ecosystems and the present and
> future availability of</P>
> <P>forest resources to benefit society.</P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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