I am looking for.....

paghat paghatSPAMMERS-DIE at netscape.net
Wed Nov 27 15:08:26 EST 2002

In article <894029d4.0211271038.ef1bef at posting.google.com>,
seskridge at YAHOO.COM (Senate) wrote:

> I am looking for blackcap berries.  The scientific name is Rubus
> leucodermis here is a link to a web site about them
> http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/request106.asp 
> I am looking for the western variety.

Do you want this for decorative value because of the odd pale stem color &
low-growing habit? It's not really white-stemmed, it's pale slate. If you
want it only for the fruit you'll likely be disappointed. They're very
flat so you can pick 'em for an hour & not have much, they mush up before
you can get home with them, & though they're certainly tasty they'd weigh
in second-best compared to other raspberries. Judging by how it grows in
the wild here, it stays short (but can spread willynilly in width) which
might make it nice for a berry garden that has limited space or barriered
so it won't sucker into the whole yard, but the productivity is not great
even compared to its smallish stature. When we're berrying in the woods or
countryside, there are some things we are not apt to harvest to bring
home, but will eat on the spot or else ignore if there are lots of
choices, such as blackcaps, & salmon berries, & the common thimbleberry,
because the labor-to-harvest ratio is poor, the flavors comparatively
bland, or they mush down under their own weight just trying to get them

But if it's for decorative value with the fruits a lesser bonus, they do
creep around quite prettily, rather than producing tall canes that dry out
in homely  stands. You should contact a Northwest native plant specialist
like Wally Hansen  by e-mail or letter, as such specialists could get this
even if they never bother to put it on their regular lists.  Contact
Hansen through www.pnplant.com, or track down the Native Plant Nursery in
Mount Vernon, WA; Pleasant Home Road Nursery in Salem OR; or Black Lake
Nursery in Olympia WA. Or write to the Washington Native Plant Society,
7400 Sand Point Way NE, Seattle, WA 98115 (www.wnps.org). WNPS has their
own annual native plant sale at the Bellevue Botanic Garden &/or UW
Aboretum, but also will note in the newsletter other annual native plant
sales (such as at University of British Columbia, The Clallum County
Conservation District in Port Angeles, King County Conservation District
nwp sale, the Hardy Plant Society annual sale in Hillsboro Oregon, &c &c,
many of these events being a chance for specialty nurseries to promote
themselves & provide the public with stuff not offered in typical retail


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