I am looking for.....

Michael Hagen mhagen at NOSPAMolympus.net
Wed Nov 27 16:48:54 EST 2002

In article <paghatSPAMMERS-DIE-2711021308260001 at soggy72.drizzle.com>, 
paghatSPAMMERS-DIE at netscape.net says...
> In article <894029d4.0211271038.ef1bef at posting.google.com>,
> seskridge at YAHOO.COM (Senate) wrote:
> > I am looking for blackcap berries.  The scientific name is Rubus
> > leucodermis here is a link to a web site about them
> > 
> > http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/request106.asp 
> > 
> > I am looking for the western variety.
> > 
> >
> http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/plants/magnoliophyta/magnoliophytina/magnoliopsida/rosaceae/rubus/index.html#leucodermis
> > 
> Do you want this for decorative value because of the odd pale stem color &
> low-growing habit? It's not really white-stemmed, it's pale slate. If you
> want it only for the fruit you'll likely be disappointed. They're very
> flat so you can pick 'em for an hour & not have much, they mush up before
> you can get home with them, & though they're certainly tasty they'd weigh
> in second-best compared to other raspberries. Judging by how it grows in
> the wild here, it stays short (but can spread willynilly in width) which
> might make it nice for a berry garden that has limited space or barriered
> so it won't sucker into the whole yard, but the productivity is not great
> even compared to its smallish stature. When we're berrying in the woods or
> countryside, there are some things we are not apt to harvest to bring
> home, but will eat on the spot or else ignore if there are lots of
> choices, such as blackcaps, & salmon berries, & the common thimbleberry,
> because the labor-to-harvest ratio is poor, the flavors comparatively
> bland, or they mush down under their own weight just trying to get them
> home. 
> But if it's for decorative value with the fruits a lesser bonus, they do
> creep around quite prettily, rather than producing tall canes that dry out
> in homely  stands. You should contact a Northwest native plant specialist
> like Wally Hansen  by e-mail or letter, as such specialists could get this
> even if they never bother to put it on their regular lists.  Contact
> Hansen through www.pnplant.com, or track down the Native Plant Nursery in
> Mount Vernon, WA; Pleasant Home Road Nursery in Salem OR; or Black Lake
> Nursery in Olympia WA. Or write to the Washington Native Plant Society,
> 7400 Sand Point Way NE, Seattle, WA 98115 (www.wnps.org). WNPS has their
> own annual native plant sale at the Bellevue Botanic Garden &/or UW
> Aboretum, but also will note in the newsletter other annual native plant
> sales (such as at University of British Columbia, The Clallum County
> Conservation District in Port Angeles, King County Conservation District
> nwp sale, the Hardy Plant Society annual sale in Hillsboro Oregon, &c &c,
> many of these events being a chance for specialty nurseries to promote
> themselves & provide the public with stuff not offered in typical retail
> nurseries.
Black cap's leaves are deep red now and look pretty nice with frost.
Berry production is minimal.
Those are good PNW leads. Where are you?

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