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[Annelida] Arwidsson date

Geoff Read via annelida%40net.bio.net (by g.read from niwa.co.nz)
Thu Apr 15 20:33:40 EST 2010

On behald of Sergio. Looks like his mail got stuck in the system.

>>> On 16/04/2010 at 7:08 a.m., Sergio Salazar <savs551216 from hotmail.com>
Dear colleagues,
José Eriberto is right. The Ward and Fauchald bibliography does not
clarify the issue.
The dissertation was printed in Uppsala (with a single p in the cover),
in 1906, with an announcement of the forthcoming defense on February
2nd, 1907. The second page has a footnote indicating, if my translation
from German is correct, that it was a copy from the journal Zoologischen
Jahrbüchern, Bd. 25 Abt. f. Syst.
The thesis was published in Jena, and as it was announced, in the
volume 25 of the journal, but it came out as the supplement 9, first
part. However, the publication date for the supplement is 1907.
Consequently, in this as in several other instances, the dissertations
were published and the original typography was retained for the final
publication in a journal, that usually came out a year afterwards. Thus,
if following the current Code the thesis is regarded as a valid
publication, then we are in trouble.
I could not find the 1900 Reglès but I would assume that the author, as
well as his mentors, would not regard the dissertation as a formal
publication. If so, why would they bother for duplicationg the
publication if both would be equally valid? I'm sure that it was clear
that the dissertation has to be printed and sent to publication, but
despite the final format being the same, the dissertation was not
regarded then as a valid publication.
I hope we agree on that, retain 1907 as the publication date for
Arwidsson monograph, as stated by Hartman, and regard the dissertation
as an invalid publication.
Best wishes,

Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:39:00 -0300
Subject: Re: [Annelida] Arwidsson date
From: eri.assis from gmail.com 
To: g.read from niwa.co.nz 
CC: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu 

Dear Dr. Geoff Read, and all


I have been to work with Maldanidae. In all my publications, I used
Arwidsson, 1907, away, the Arwidsson's publication is June 1906. I
observed in many publications, the year 1907. I used 1907, because I sow
that in the Zoological Record was registred in 1907, It's mean what
happened was a delay in the publication of the Journal.

Best wishes

Eriberto de Assis   


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Geoff Read <g.read from niwa.co.nz> wrote:

Dear colleagues,

Perhaps someone has concluded which year Ivar Arwidsson published his
thesis "Studien über die skandinavischen und arktischen Maldaniden
1906 or 1907?

Usually when there is uncertainty whether the printed date (here 1906,
text completed in June) is correct we go for the next year. Hartman
(1951) thought 1907, as did Light (1991, also in his thesis). I am
inclined to follow the leader, but want reassuring if possible, since
several taxa entries in WoRMS would need to be changed.

You can see the title pages at
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/87302 and they seem to say
the thesis defense was in Feb 1907, but is this relevant?

NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water &
Atmospheric Research Ltd.
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