[Annelida] Ophelia remanei type location

D Hall via annelida%40net.bio.net (by DavidHall from unicomarine.com)
Thu Feb 23 07:32:33 EST 2012


Dear all,

Can anyone provide these papers in an electronic format?

Chassé, C.; Picard, J. 1968. Identification, variabilité et ëcologie
d'Ophelia rathkei McIntosh, espèce nouvelle pour les côtes Françaises.
Cahiers de Biologie Marine 9: 133-142 

Wolff, W. J. 1969. A New Station of Ophelia rathkei McIntosh in Northern
France. Cahiers de Biologie Marine 10: 83-84

Regards,

Dave.


D Hall wrote:
> 
> Thanks Geoff & Charlene,
> 
> It is the validity of these synonymies, O.cluthensis & O.remanei, that we
> are investigating and as the descriptions are vague, reviewing type
> material should help resolve the identity of our specimens (or eliminate a
> couple of scenarios). 
> 
> We have intertidal specimens from S.E. England with the following basic
> characteristics:
> 24 setigers
> body formula 11a+8b+5a
> ventral furrow from s8 or s9
> single large ventral anal papilla - clearly bifurcate
> 10 small rounded anal papillae  
> 
> Firstly reviewing the British list of potential species broadly matching
> these characters, we have eliminated O.laubieri (no branchiae) and
> O.rathkei (single large ventral anal papilla, figured in
> Hartmann-Schroder). Therefore, we are starting with an investigation into
> synonyms, before exploring any likely species introductions.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Dave.
> 
> Geoff Read-3 wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Charlene,
>> 
>> You are absolutely correct on the true origin of these synonymies. Thank
>> you!
>> 
>> Chassé, C.; Picard, J. 1968. Identification, variabilité et ëcologie
>> d'Ophelia rathkei McIntosh, espèce nouvelle pour les côtes Françaises.
>> Cahiers de Biologie Marine 9: 133-142       Summary: The authors indicate
>> the presence of an annelid polychete (family Opheliidae) long about 1 cm
>> (-1/3 inch), in the sands of Roscoff (Brittany). The amplitude of
>> variations concerning its morphological characters allows us to identify
>> it with Ophelia rathkei McIntosh 1908 as well as with Ophelia remani
>> [sic] Augener 1939 and Ophelia cluthensis McGuire 1935 which are known
>> from the British Isles and from Germany; these polychetes form thus one
>> single species (with 8 to 10 pairs of gills), living in well oxygenized,
>> homometrical fine sands (median from 200 to 300) of neap-tide oscillation
>> zone. Sands with this Ophelia finds intermittend [sic] between Ophelia
>> bicornis (sands in the upper part) and those containing Travesia forbesi
>> and Ophelia neglecta populations (in the lower part).
>> 
>> And "remani" is a misspelling introduced in the English and German
>> summaries of this article (correctly "remanei" elsewhere in the body).
>> 
>>  Supported also in this note:
>> Wolff, W. J. 1969. A New Station of Ophelia rathkei McIntosh in Northern
>> France. Cahiers de Biologie Marine 10: 83-84
>> 
>> Augener's types are in several European museums, but maybe Hamburg would
>> be the place to look in this case?
>> 
>> Geoff
>> 
>> [intended for the list]
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charlene [mailto:cdlong from thebuffumgroup.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:46 a.m.
>>> To: Geoff Read
>>> Subject: RE: [Annelida] Ophelia remanei type location
>>>
>>> ...I have just joined this group so I may be repeating what you already
>>> know, but here goes. ...I checked volumes 2 & 3 of the
>>> www.bibliographyofpolychaeta.org (BoP), and it indicates that Chasse, C.
>>> (1968, pp. 133-42) made Ophelia remani [is this our typo for remanei?] a
>>> syn. Of O. rathkei McIntosh.  Perhaps Chasse mentioned the location of
>>> the
>>> types. ...I have a dim memory that someone published on the location of
>>> Augener's types but that didn't seem to make it into the BoP, either
>>> because
>>> my memory fails me, we missed it or because it was published after I was
>>> accumulating polychaete literature.  ...Apparently Kristian (2011)
>>> didn't
>>> mention anything about the location of the type?
>>>
>>> Good luck, Charlene D. Long
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>>> [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Geoff Read
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:59 PM
>>> To: D Hall; annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>>> Subject: RE: [Annelida] Ophelia remanei
>>>
>>> I have a related question.  Hartmann-Schröder (1971 book) apparently
>>> newly
>>> synonymised both O. remanei and O. cluthensis into O. rathkei. These
>>> synonymy assertions are not implemented in WoRMS. I would guess little
>>> or no
>>> explanation was given in 1971 (I have only the 1996 book at hand).  Are
>>> these synonymies regarded as likely correct, or supported by other
>>> works?
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-
>>> > bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of D Hall
>>> > Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012 6:41 a.m.
>>> > To: annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>>> > Subject: [Annelida] Ophelia remanei
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > I'm looking for the location of the type material for Ophelia remanei
>>> > Augener 1939, can anyone point me in the right direction?
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Dave.
>>> >
>>> > David Hall BSc (Jt. Hons.) CBiol MSB
>>> > Senior Principal Biologist
>>> > Operations Manager
>>> >
>>> > NMBAQC Scheme Administrator: Benthic Invertebrate,
>>> > Fish & Particle Size Analysis Components
>>> >
>>> > Thomson Unicomarine Ltd
>>> > 7 Diamond Centre, Works Road
>>> > Letchworth, Herts, SG6 1LW, UK
>>> > Tel. +44 (0)1462 675559
>>> > Fax. +44 (0)1462 483103
>>> > www.thomsonunicomarine.com
>>> > www.nmbaqcs.org
>>> > http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/david-hall/35/5b7/a71
>>> > --
>>> > View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Ophelia-remanei-
>>> > tp33372599p33372599.html
>>> > Sent from the Bio.net - Annelida mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Annelida mailing list
>>> > Post: Annelida from net.bio.net
>>> > Help/archive: http://www.bio.net/biomail/listinfo/annelida
>>> > Resources: http://www.annelida.net
>>> --
>>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>>> NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water &
>>> Atmospheric
>>> Research Ltd.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Annelida mailing list
>>> Post: Annelida from net.bio.net
>>> Help/archive: http://www.bio.net/biomail/listinfo/annelida
>>> Resources: http://www.annelida.net
>> 
>> --
>> Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>> NIWA is the trading name of the National Institute of Water & Atmospheric
>> Research Ltd.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Annelida mailing list
>> Post: Annelida from net.bio.net
>> Help/archive: http://www.bio.net/biomail/listinfo/annelida
>> Resources: http://www.annelida.net
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
-- 
View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Ophelia-remanei-tp33372599p33377486.html
Sent from the Bio.net - Annelida mailing list archive at Nabble.com.




More information about the Annelida mailing list