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[Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)

Daniel Martin Sintes via annelida%40net.bio.net (by dani from ceab.csic.es)
Wed Mar 21 03:56:27 EST 2012


The same also in Spain. Dani.
Al 21/03/12 09:47, En/na Paulo Henrique BONIFÁCIO ha escrit:
> the same in France =/
>
> paulo
>
> Le 21 mars 2012 01:19, Chris Glasby <chris.glasby from nt.gov.au 
> <mailto:chris.glasby from nt.gov.au>> a écrit :
>
>     >What happens in Australia?
>
>     same as the NZ case; I'd have to pay for the pdf.
>
>     cheers,
>
>     Chris
>
>     *From:*annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu>
>     [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Geoff Read
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
>     *To:* James Blake
>     *Cc:* Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
>     *Subject:* RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
>     Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was
>     looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that
>     link aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the
>     snippet view and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA
>     Google.com returns an open access page to you. Needless to say I
>     am more than somewhat irritated that you in the USA can download a
>     book published in Germany, when I cannot do the same in New
>     Zealand. I know about odd publisher limitations for regional
>      access for books still in copyright (where there is more than one
>     publisher producing the book), but this item was published in
>     1901, thus the book is over 110 years old and should be well out
>     of copyright.
>
>     I haven't heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more
>     about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I
>     suspect Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are
>     affected? What happens in Australia?
>
>     Geoff
>
>     *From:*James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com
>     <mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com>]
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
>     *To:* Geoff Read
>     *Cc:* Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
>     Geoff,
>
>     You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but
>     the plates are of variable quality.
>
>     It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift."
>
>     http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false
>     <http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false>
>
>     Jim
>
>     On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read
>     <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz <mailto:Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz>> wrote:
>
>     Hi there Jim, Jose and all,
>
>     It's an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not
>     available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be
>     proved wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct
>     url.
>
>     I can see Google has it at
>     books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q
>     <http://books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q> but that is only
>     the teaser 'no ebook'  glimpse, and there is a link onwards to a
>     print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on had it freely
>     available?
>
>     With regards to the citation I'm also puzzled by the linkage to
>     the 150 year anniversary "Festschrift zur feier des
>     hundertfünfzigjährigen ..." which is also given in Hartman, 1951.
>     Can anyone with an original print copy explain or verify how this
>     is a real connection? There is a book with this Festschrift title
>     online at archive.org <http://archive.org/> published 1901 but the
>     content is not biological.
>
>     If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal
>     pdf scan of Ehlers' 'Die polychaeten de magellanischen .. '
>     (supplied by someone else, and I expect they would not mind if I
>     passed this on). It won't be as good a copy as a professionally
>     scanned pdf.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Geoff Read
>
>     *From:*annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu>
>     [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>     <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu>] *On Behalf Of *José
>     Eriberto Assis
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
>     *To:* annelida
>     *Subject:* [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
>     Hi, all
>
>     I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf
>     or other file, I will be very greatfull.
>
>     *Ehlers, E. -- 1901. Die polychaeten de magellanischen und
>     chilenischen Stranden. Ein Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur
>     Feier des Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen
>     Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche
>     Buchhandlung. *
>
>     Thank you very much
>
>     Best wishes
>
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