Antw: Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)

Dieter Fiege via annelida%40net.bio.net (by Dieter.Fiege from senckenberg.de)
Wed Mar 21 04:48:18 EST 2012


$(UAnd the same in Germany. Dieter 



>>> Daniel Martin Sintes <dani from ceab.csic.es> 3/21/2012 9:56 AM >>>
The same also in Spain. Dani.
Al 21/03/12 09:47, En/na Paulo Henrique BONIFÁCIO ha escrit: 

the same in France =/ 



paulo


Le 21 mars 2012 01:19, Chris Glasby <chris.glasby from nt.gov.au> a écrit :


>What happens in Australia? 
  
same as the NZ case; I’d have to pay for the pdf. 
  
cheers, 
  
Chris 
  
  

From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Geoff Read
Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
To: James Blake
Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
Subject: RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901) 

  

Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that link aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the snippet view and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA Google.com returns an open access page to you. Needless to say I am more than somewhat irritated that you in the USA can download a book published in Germany, when I cannot do the same in New Zealand. I know about odd publisher limitations for regional  access for books still in copyright (where there is more than one publisher producing the book), but this item was published in 1901, thus the book is over 110 years old and should be well out of copyright. 
  
I haven’t heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I suspect Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are affected? What happens in Australia? 
  
Geoff 
  

From: James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
To: Geoff Read
Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901) 

  

Geoff, 

  

You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but the plates are of variable quality. 

  

It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift." 

  

http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false 

  

Jim 

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> wrote: 

Hi there Jim, Jose and all, 
  
It’s an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be proved wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct url. 
I can see Google has it at books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q but that is only the teaser ‘no ebook’                                     glimpse, and there is a link onwards to a print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on had it freely available? 
  
With regards to the citation I’m also puzzled by the linkage to the 150 year anniversary “Festschrift zur feier des hundertfünfzigjährigen …” which is also given in Hartman, 1951. Can anyone with an original print copy explain or verify how this is a real connection? There is a book with this Festschrift title online at archive.org published 1901 but the content is not biological. 
  
If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal pdf scan of Ehlers’ ‘Die polychaeten de magellanischen .. ‘                                    (supplied by someone else, and I expect they would not mind if I passed this on). It won’t be as good a copy as a professionally scanned pdf. 
  
Thanks, 
  
Geoff Read 
  

From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of José Eriberto Assis
Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
To: annelida
Subject: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901) 

  
Hi, all 

I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf or other file, I will be very greatfull.  

  

Ehlers, E. –                                              1901. Die polychaeten de magellanischen und chilenischen Stranden. Ein Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur Feier des Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche Buchhandlung.  

  

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