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Ascensão Ravara via annelida%40net.bio.net (by aravara from ua.pt)
Wed Mar 21 05:16:51 EST 2012


And also the same in Portugal. Ascensão


On 2012/03/21, at 09:48, Dieter Fiege wrote:

> And the same in Germany. Dieter
>
>
>
> >>> Daniel Martin Sintes <dani from ceab.csic.es> 3/21/2012 9:56 AM >>>
> The same also in Spain. Dani.
> Al 21/03/12 09:47, En/na Paulo Henrique BONIFÁCIO ha escrit:
>> the same in France =/
>>
>> paulo
>>
>> Le 21 mars 2012 01:19, Chris Glasby <chris.glasby from nt.gov.au> a  
>> écrit :
>> >What happens in Australia?
>>
>> same as the NZ case; I’d have to pay for the pdf.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
>> ] On Behalf Of Geoff Read
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
>> To: James Blake
>> Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>> Subject: RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>
>> Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was  
>> looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that  
>> link aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the  
>> snippet view and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA  
>> Google.com returns an open access page to you. Needless to say I am  
>> more than somewhat irritated that you in the USA can download a  
>> book published in Germany, when I cannot do the same in New  
>> Zealand. I know about odd publisher limitations for regional   
>> access for books still in copyright (where there is more than one  
>> publisher producing the book), but this item was published in 1901,  
>> thus the book is over 110 years old and should be well out of  
>> copyright.
>>
>> I haven’t heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more  
>> about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I suspect  
>> Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are affected? What  
>> happens in Australia?
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>> From: James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
>> To: Geoff Read
>> Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>
>> Geoff,
>>
>> You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but  
>> the plates are of variable quality.
>>
>> It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift."
>>
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v 
>> =onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und 
>> %20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false
>>
>> Jim
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read  
>> <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi there Jim, Jose and all,
>>
>> It’s an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not  
>> available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be  
>> proved wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct  
>> url.
>> I can see Google has it at books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q  
>> but that is only the teaser ‘no  
>> ebook’                                     glimpse, and there is a  
>> link onwards to a print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on  
>> had it freely available?
>>
>> With regards to the citation I’m also puzzled by the linkage to the  
>> 150 year anniversary “Festschrift zur feier des  
>> hundertfünfzigjährigen …” which is also given in Hartman, 1951. Can  
>> anyone with an original print copy explain or verify how this is a  
>> real connection? There is a book with this Festschrift title online  
>> at archive.org published 1901 but the content is not biological.
>>
>> If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal pdf  
>> scan of Ehlers’ ‘Die polychaeten de magellanischen ..  
>> ‘                                    (supplied by someone else, and  
>> I expect they would not mind if I passed this on). It won’t be as  
>> good a copy as a professionally scanned pdf.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Geoff Read
>>
>> From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
>> ] On Behalf Of José Eriberto Assis
>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
>> To: annelida
>> Subject: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>
>> Hi, all
>> I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf  
>> or other file, I will be very greatfull.
>>
>> Ehlers, E. –                                              1901. Die  
>> polychaeten de magellanischen und chilenischen Stranden. Ein  
>> Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur Feier des  
>> Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen Gesellschaft der  
>> Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche Buchhandlung.
>>
>> Thank you very much
>> Best wishes
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