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[Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)

Barbara Mikac via annelida%40net.bio.net (by barbara.mikac from cim.irb.hr)
Wed Mar 21 05:26:50 EST 2012


Same case in Croatia.

Cheers,
Barbara

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:53 +0100, LALLIER François wrote:
> From France, Jim's link drives me to books.google.fr and a "Get Print
> Book", "No ebook available" in the upper left corner...
> François
> 
> Le 21 mars 2012 à 01:19, Chris Glasby a écrit :
> 
> > >What happens in Australia?
> >  
> > same as the NZ case; I’d have to pay for the pdf.
> >  
> > cheers,
> >  
> > Chris
> >  
> >  
> > From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
> > [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Geoff
> > Read
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
> > To: James Blake
> > Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
> > Subject: RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
> >  
> > Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was
> > looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that
> > link aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the snippet
> > view and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA Google.com
> > returns an open access page to you. Needless to say I am more than
> > somewhat irritated that you in the USA can download a book published
> > in Germany, when I cannot do the same in New Zealand. I know about
> > odd publisher limitations for regional  access for books still in
> > copyright (where there is more than one publisher producing the
> > book), but this item was published in 1901, thus the book is over
> > 110 years old and should be well out of copyright.
> >  
> > I haven’t heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more
> > about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I suspect
> > Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are affected? What
> > happens in Australia?
> >  
> > Geoff
> >  
> > From: James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
> > To: Geoff Read
> > Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
> >  
> > Geoff,
> >  
> > You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but
> > the plates are of variable quality.
> >  
> > It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift."
> >  
> > http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false
> >  
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read
> > <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> wrote:
> > Hi there Jim, Jose and all,
> >  
> > It’s an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not
> > available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be proved
> > wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct url.
> > I can see Google has it
> > at books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q but that is only the
> > teaser ‘no ebook’  glimpse, and there is a link onwards to a
> > print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on had it freely
> > available?
> >  
> > With regards to the citation I’m also puzzled by the linkage to the
> > 150 year anniversary “Festschrift zur feier des
> > hundertfünfzigjährigen …” which is also given in Hartman, 1951. Can
> > anyone with an original print copy explain or verify how this is a
> > real connection? There is a book with this Festschrift title online
> > at archive.org published 1901 but the content is not biological.
> >  
> > If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal pdf
> > scan of Ehlers’ ‘Die polychaeten de magellanischen .. ‘ (supplied by
> > someone else, and I expect they would not mind if I passed this on).
> > It won’t be as good a copy as a professionally scanned pdf.
> >  
> > Thanks,
> >  
> > Geoff Read
> >  
> > From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of José Eriberto Assis
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
> > To: annelida
> > Subject: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
> >  
> > Hi, all
> > I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf or
> > other file, I will be very greatfull. 
> >  
> > Ehlers, E. – 1901. Die polychaeten de magellanischen und
> > chilenischen Stranden. Ein Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur
> > Feier des Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen
> > Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche
> > Buchhandlung. 
> >  
> > Thank you very much
> > Best wishes  
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