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[Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)

Ascensão Ravara via annelida%40net.bio.net (by aravara from ua.pt)
Wed Mar 21 06:44:51 EST 2012


And also the same in Portugal. Ascensão


On 2012/03/21, at 10:26, Barbara Mikac wrote:

> Same case in Croatia.
>
> Cheers,
> Barbara
>
> On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 09:53 +0100, LALLIER François wrote:
>> From France, Jim's link drives me to books.google.fr and a "Get Print
>> Book", "No ebook available" in the upper left corner...
>> François
>>
>> Le 21 mars 2012 à 01:19, Chris Glasby a écrit :
>>
>>>> What happens in Australia?
>>>
>>> same as the NZ case; I’d have to pay for the pdf.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu
>>> [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Geoff
>>> Read
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
>>> To: James Blake
>>> Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>>> Subject: RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>>
>>> Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was
>>> looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that
>>> link aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the snippet
>>> view and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA Google.com
>>> returns an open access page to you. Needless to say I am more than
>>> somewhat irritated that you in the USA can download a book published
>>> in Germany, when I cannot do the same in New Zealand. I know about
>>> odd publisher limitations for regional  access for books still in
>>> copyright (where there is more than one publisher producing the
>>> book), but this item was published in 1901, thus the book is over
>>> 110 years old and should be well out of copyright.
>>>
>>> I haven’t heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more
>>> about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I suspect
>>> Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are affected? What
>>> happens in Australia?
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>> From: James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
>>> To: Geoff Read
>>> Cc: Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>>
>>> Geoff,
>>>
>>> You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but
>>> the plates are of variable quality.
>>>
>>> It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift."
>>>
>>> http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v 
>>> =onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und 
>>> %20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read
>>> <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi there Jim, Jose and all,
>>>
>>> It’s an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not
>>> available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be proved
>>> wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct url.
>>> I can see Google has it
>>> at books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q but that is only the
>>> teaser ‘no ebook’  glimpse, and there is a link onwards to a
>>> print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on had it freely
>>> available?
>>>
>>> With regards to the citation I’m also puzzled by the linkage to the
>>> 150 year anniversary “Festschrift zur feier des
>>> hundertfünfzigjährigen …” which is also given in Hartman, 1951. Can
>>> anyone with an original print copy explain or verify how this is a
>>> real connection? There is a book with this Festschrift title online
>>> at archive.org published 1901 but the content is not biological.
>>>
>>> If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal pdf
>>> scan of Ehlers’ ‘Die polychaeten de magellanischen .. ‘ (supplied by
>>> someone else, and I expect they would not mind if I passed this on).
>>> It won’t be as good a copy as a professionally scanned pdf.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Geoff Read
>>>
>>> From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
>>> ] On Behalf Of José Eriberto Assis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
>>> To: annelida
>>> Subject: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>>>
>>> Hi, all
>>> I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf or
>>> other file, I will be very greatfull.
>>>
>>> Ehlers, E. – 1901. Die polychaeten de magellanischen und
>>> chilenischen Stranden. Ein Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur
>>> Feier des Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen
>>> Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche
>>> Buchhandlung.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much
>>> Best wishes
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