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[Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)

Paulo Lana via annelida%40net.bio.net (by lana from ufpr.br)
Wed Mar 21 11:26:14 EST 2012


Geoff and colleagues,
In Brazil the same as the NZ case, unfortunately
Paulo Lana

Em 20/03/2012 21:19, Chris Glasby escreveu:
>
> >What happens in Australia?
>
> same as the NZ case; I'd have to pay for the pdf.
>
> cheers,
>
> Chris
>
> *From:*annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
> [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu] *On Behalf Of *Geoff Read
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 8:53 AM
> *To:* James Blake
> *Cc:* Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
> *Subject:* RE: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
> Well, this is odd Jim. That link returns the exact same page I was 
> looking at.  For me, and presumably the rest of New Zealand, that link 
> aliases to Google NZ which serves up a page that is the snippet view 
> and has no access to the pdf, whereas in the USA Google.com returns an 
> open access page to you. Needless to say I am more than somewhat 
> irritated that you in the USA can download a book published in 
> Germany, when I cannot do the same in New Zealand. I know about odd 
> publisher limitations for regional  access for books still in 
> copyright (where there is more than one publisher producing the book), 
> but this item was published in 1901, thus the book is over 110 years 
> old and should be well out of copyright.
>
> I haven't heard of this before. I shall be trying to find out more 
> about what is going on here, and ways to circumvent it.   I suspect 
> Google foul play. I wonder if other countries are affected? What 
> happens in Australia?
>
> Geoff
>
> *From:*James Blake [mailto:jablake9 from gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:33 a.m.
> *To:* Geoff Read
> *Cc:* Annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
> Geoff,
>
> You are wrong, I downloaded it myself today. It is a good scan but the 
> plates are of variable quality.
>
> It is one of three papers in the "Festschrift."
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false 
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=TqxRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA165&lpg=PA165&dq=Die+polychaeten+de+magellanischen+und+chilenischen+Stranden&source=bl&ots=bcxzkJX_ky&sig=Bca1u8oZMzPYHqZg9a6qYiCCKzM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=7gRpT8_BFpLg2wX_qdmUCQ&ved=0CFgQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Die%20polychaeten%20de%20magellanischen%20und%20chilenischen%20Stranden&f=false>
>
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Geoff Read <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz 
> <mailto:Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz>> wrote:
>
> Hi there Jim, Jose and all,
>
> It's an important work but as far as I can tell this book is not 
> available as a pdf digitised via Google.  However happy to be proved 
> wrong (as fast as electrons can move) by supply of a direct url.
>
> I can see Google has it at books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q 
> <http://books.google.com/books?id=W3gIAAAAMAAJ&q> but that is only the 
> teaser 'no ebook'  glimpse, and there is a link onwards to a 
> print-on-demand merchant. Maybe Google earlier on had it freely available?
>
> With regards to the citation I'm also puzzled by the linkage to the 
> 150 year anniversary "Festschrift zur feier des hundertfünfzigjährigen 
> ..." which is also given in Hartman, 1951. Can anyone with an original 
> print copy explain or verify how this is a real connection? There is a 
> book with this Festschrift title online at archive.org 
> <http://archive.org/> published 1901 but the content is not biological.
>
> If the book is not available online yet, then I have a personal pdf 
> scan of Ehlers' 'Die polychaeten de magellanischen .. ' (supplied by 
> someone else, and I expect they would not mind if I passed this on). 
> It won't be as good a copy as a professionally scanned pdf.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Read
>
> *From:*annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
> <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu> 
> [mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu 
> <mailto:annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu>] *On Behalf Of *José 
> Eriberto Assis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:01 a.m.
> *To:* annelida
> *Subject:* [Annelida] Reference of (Ehlers, 1901)
>
> Hi, all
>
> I am need this reference above, If somebody can send for me a pdf or 
> other file, I will be very greatfull.
>
> *Ehlers, E. -- 1901. Die polychaeten de magellanischen und 
> chilenischen Stranden. Ein Faunistischer Versusch. Festschrift zur 
> Feier des Hundertfünfzigjährigen Bestehens der königlichen 
> Gesellschaft der Wissenschaften zu Göttigen. Wiedmannsche Buchhandlung. *
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Best wishes
>
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