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From: smitha <smithack07 from gmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Annelida] Nereis identification
To: Geoff Read <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz>
Hi,
The specimen is coming under Pisionidae. I have got 5 specimen of the same
and the copulatory organ present on 15th segment of all specimen. All
these have 21 to 24 segments. Referred YAMANISHI, 1998. It is
resembling *Pisione
vestigialis* But I am not able to confirm. Im attaching a photo of
copulatory organ of the specimen present on 15th segment.
Expecting your valuable suggestions.
--
Smitha
On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Geoff Read <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> wrote:
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>> I don't think anyone has proposed that. I'm relying on the Norlinder et
> al paper, but there may be something later I've missed. There is a prior
> sigalionid subfamily. Pettibone made SF Pelogeniinae the container mainly
> for a set of sigalionid genera she created for the sand-encrusted
> sigalionids. Not sure how those would stand up if anyone looked at the
> molecules - but they may.
>>>> Norlinder, E., Nygren, A., Wiklund, H. and Pleijel, F. (2012). "Phylogeny
> of scale-worms (Aphroditiformia, Annelida), assessed from 18SrRNA, 28SrRNA,
> 16SrRNA, mitochondrial cytochrome c oxidase subunit I (COI), and
> morphology." Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 65(2): 490-500.
>>>> That paper included only at Pisione and Pisionidens. However, Pisione is
> the big genus. The others are minor players.
>>>> Geoff
>>>> ________________________________
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> Sent: 01 May 2015 13:37
> To: Geoff Read
> Cc: Lovell, Larry; smitha; annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: [Annelida] Nereis identification
>>> Thanks Geoff.
>> Is it now properly in a subfamify the Pisioninae?
>> Cheers,
>> Doug
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>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Geoff Read <Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz> <mailto:Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz>> wrote:
> PS
>> We have both momentarily forgotten the testimony of the molecules.
> Best to think of the Pisionidae genera as in Sigalionidae 'scaleworms'
> now. But while hunting for literature they will be found as Pisionidae.
>> Geoff
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> From: Lovell, Larry <LLovell from lacsd.org<mailto:LLovell from lacsd.org>>
> Sent: 01 May 2015 03:36
> To: Geoff Read; smitha; annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu<mailto:
>annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
> Subject: RE: [Annelida] Nereis identification
>> Dr. Smitha,
>> I agree with Geoff. Looks like a specimen of Pisionidae with possible
> male copulatory organs on that 16th segment.
>> Larry
>> Larry Lovell, President
> Southern California Association of Marine Invertebrate Taxonomists
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>> "What's the use in their having names," the Gnat said, "if they won't
> answer to them?"
>> "No use to them," said Alice: "but it's useful to the people who name
> them, I suppose."
>>> - Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass
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>annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu> [mailto:
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> Subject: Re: [Annelida] Nereis identification
>> Hi Dr Smitha,
>> The photos seem to be of a pisionid - family Pisionidae. The 16th seg
> structures are presumably copulatory organs of a male.
>> Cheers,
>> Geoff Read
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> Subject: [Annelida] Nereis identification
>> Subject: Nereis expert
> Dear all,
>> Any Nereis expert in our group?
> I have got one Nereis sp. It has 22 segments and its 16th segment bears a
> pair of long parapodium compared to others. Referred a number of
> publications. But I am not able to identify the specimen.
> Kindly help me for identify the specimen?
> --
> sincerely
> Dr. Smitha
> Assistant Professor in Marine Biology
> Department of Biological Oceanography
> School of Ocean Studies and Technology
> Kerala University of Fisheries and Ocean Studies.
> Cochin, Kerala
> India
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