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[Annelida] RE: Why are they doing it?

Geoff Read via annelida%40net.bio.net (by Geoffrey.Read from niwa.co.nz)
Mon Dec 3 18:06:09 EST 2018


Hi Lena,

If you have found a serious flaw in the analysis method, then write to the submission editor pointing it out.  Very important to do that.  (They have deposited sequences, but it doesn't look as if they have kept physical voucher specimens)

Errors of fact in the text are irritating, and it depends on how many are present and how they relate to the conclusions as to whether action is worth it post-publication.  First step is to write to the authors for those concerning your area of expertise so they don't do it again.  By the way they aren't claiming Serpula columbiana is in the ISSG. Look again.

I thought they were wrong to use Helix aspersa instead of Cornu aspersum (garden snail) but apparently the matter is still argued, so that might be okay - just.

Cheers,

Geoff

-----Original Message-----
From: annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu <annelida-bounces from oat.bio.indiana.edu> On Behalf Of Elena Kupriyanova
Sent: Monday, 3 December 2018 3:31 p.m.
To: 'annelida from net.bio.net' <annelida from magpie.bio.indiana.edu>
Subject: [Annelida] FW: Why are they doing it?

Dear all,

Sorry, I just cannot be quiet about it. I just seriously wonder why invasion ecologists so blatantly ignore any taxonomical research and I wonder where they get information that they publish?

Here is a recent example
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0191859

They claim that they found common Australian serpulid Spirobranchus taeniatus and that it is a NATIVE SPECIES in Bay of Biscay, Spain. A 5-second search shows to anyone that this species was described from Australia and is known only from temperate Australia (for example http://www.iobis.org/explore/#/taxon/844904).
They also write exactly this:
Five species were not native: Crassostrea gigas, Ostrea stentina, Austrominius modestus, Serpula columbiana, and Neodexiospira sp. C. gigas and A. modestus are listed in the global invasive species database (GISD, http://www.issg.org/database).
Yes, Serpula columbiana is not a native species in the study area, it is known only from the West Coast of the USA, but it is NOT listed in the database above (check you don't belive me)!
See Fig. 5 - this is what their wonderful identification "using genetic barcoding" looks like  - the sequences are fragments of 18S! And their photos do not even closely resemble tubes of Spirobranchus taeniatus and Serpula columbiana.
I just cannot believe it.



Dr. Elena Kupriyanova
Senior Research Scientist
Marine Invertebrates

Associate Editor,
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