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<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Brian,<o:p></o:p> Hey!  I had troubles identifying what I thought was Paradoneis lyra from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Tampa Bay</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">FL</st1:State>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></st1:place>.  I came across the following article, which you will want to check out.  This article follows the opinion of Strelzov (1973) which synonymizes Paradoneis and Paraonides with Cirrophorus.  This synonymization appears to be controversial and I am not sure which is commonly accepted amongst the polychaete community.  Maybe others belonging to this forum will want to comment on this.  Table 1 in McLelland and Gaston (1994) helped me sort out our local species and it may help you as well.  The local specimens that I have fit Cirrophorus lyra, but I agree with Geoff on the fact that this species may not be as widely distributed as previously thought.  Here are those citations:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> McLelland, J. A. & G. R. Gaston.  1994.  Two new species of Cirrophorus (Polychaeta: Paraonidae) form the northern <st1:place w:st="on">Gulf of Mexico</st1:place>.  Proceedings of the Biological Society of <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Washington</st1:place></st1:State> 107 (3): 524-531.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Strelzov, V. E.  1968.  Polychaetous annelids of the family Paraonidae (Polychaeta, Sedentaria) of the <st1:place w:st="on">Barents Sea</st1:place>.  <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Academy</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Sciences</st1:PlaceName> of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">USSR</st1:place></st1:country-region>, Kirov Kola affiliate, Murmansk Marine Biology Institute 17 (21): 74-95.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Good luck!<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Jennifer Davenport<o:p></o:p> Terra Environmental Services, Inc.<o:p></o:p> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">101 16th Avenue South, Suite 4</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">St. Petersburg</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">FL</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">33701</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p> jdavenport@terraenv.com<o:p></o:p> Office:  (727) 565-4661<o:p></o:p> Cell:  (727) 967-8450<o:p></o:p> Fax:  (727) 565-4663<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original Message----- From: annelida-bounces@oat.bio.indiana.edu [mailto:annelida-bounces@oat.bio.indiana.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Paavo Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:13 PM To: annelida@magpie.bio.indiana.edu Subject: [Annelida] Paradoneis <o:p> </o:p> Aloha,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I seem to be confused.  A Paradoneis is very important to some work in a <o:p></o:p> southeast <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New Zealand</st1:place></st1:country-region> intertidal inlet.  I would normally have called it <o:p></o:p> Paradoneis lyra (Southern 1914).  I just read a paper (citation below) <o:p></o:p> with new descriptions including a new Paradoneis eliasoni.  While the <o:p></o:p> paper is well illustrated it seems to be missing some discussion of the <o:p></o:p> characters needed to resolve some splits (or I may be missing some <o:p></o:p> convention).  Paradoneis eliasoni appears to be described from 2 <o:p></o:p> anterior fragments and an 'almost complete' worm.  I don't have a copy <o:p></o:p> of the original Paradoneis lyra description.  According to Table 3 in <o:p></o:p> the publication, P. eliasoni has acicular neurochaetae in the far <o:p></o:p> posterior segments.  I grabbed some of our 2000+ specimens and they all <o:p></o:p> have them.  The table includes a strike rather than a question mark  (no <o:p></o:p> mention?) of these for P. lyra (Southern 1914).   Both type localities <o:p></o:p> are from the other side of the planet, P. lyra capensis (Day 1955) is <o:p></o:p> from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">South Africa</st1:place></st1:country-region>, but the pre-branchial notopodial lobes are present in <o:p></o:p> our specimens, but Day may not have had specimens this large.  Any thoughts?<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> My diagnosis of our beast (made before seeing the paper): Conical <o:p></o:p> prostomium slightly longer than wide, slit nuchal organs, branchiae <o:p></o:p> start on chaetiger 4 and continue for 11-12 chaetigers [a little shorter <o:p></o:p> than segment width), no eyes, no median antenna/scar, small notopodial <o:p></o:p> lobes present on pre-branchial chaetigers larger in branchial chaetiger <o:p></o:p> smaller in postbranchial chaetigers then very proporitionally large in <o:p></o:p> extreme posterior, earliest observed forked chaetae on chaetiger 3 only <o:p></o:p> one observed in each notopodium, posterior chaetigers with stout <o:p></o:p> acicular chaetae (one each neuropodium) which is weakly hooked, 3 <o:p></o:p> pygidial cirri.  [I didn't note the capillary numbers]<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Aguirrezabalaga, F. and Gil, J.  (2009)  Paraonidae (Polychaeta) from <o:p></o:p> the <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Capbreton</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Canyon</st1:PlaceType> (<st1:City w:st="on">Bay of Biscay</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NE</st1:State> <st1:place w:st="on">Atlantic</st1:place>) with the description <o:p></o:p> of eight new species.  Scientia <st1:City 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