Do Biofilms Consist Primarily of Matter and Energy or of Space and

[Doug Caldwell]

Do biofilms consist primarily of matter and energy or of space and time ?

It is conceivable that biofilms consist of evolving space/time
relationships (information) rather than evolving physical (matter/energy)
objects that occupy space time.  If so, then physics is a matter of ecology
rather than ecology being a matter of physics:  we may have a big job ahead
of us as microbial ecologists!

Food for thought - Regards - Doug Caldwell

For more info see below:

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The Physical Nature of Informational
Relationships

Doug Caldwell (caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
17 Dec 1997 08:07:24 -0800

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From: caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA (Doug Caldwell)

Subject: The Physical Nature of Informational Relationships

Date: 17 Dec 1997 08:07:24 -0800


In discussing my tentative definitions of "universe" and "information"
with you over the past week or so, I have come to the following conclusions.

See the following reference to view the tentative definitions:
Active Information vs. Inactive Information - Doug Caldwell
(caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
(http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0025.html),

1. It might be more useful to assume that physical objects consist
primarily (or entirely) of space/time relationships (information) rather
than to assume that they consist primarily of matter/energy objects that
occupy space and time.

Category theory - Pentcho Valev (RUMYM at BGEARN.ACAD.BG)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0041.html

Re: Active Information vs. Inactive Information - Doug Caldwell
(caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0061.html

Relationships vs. physical objects - Pentcho Valev (RUMYM at BGEARN.ACAD.BG)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0052.html

Re: Active Information vs. Inactive Information - William Bains
(william at wbains.u-net.com)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0055.html

What Does Information Look Like - Ralph Gainey (sesame at mcn.org)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0080.html

Relationships vs. physical objects - Doug Caldwell (caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0083.html

2. Principles governing the evolution of information (space/time
relationships) may be equally applicable at all levels of organization
(within and between all scientific disciplines and all physical objects).

Physical Evolution - Doug Caldwell (caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0084.html

3. Fundamental principles of ecology and evolution (the evolution of
relationships) may underlie all of physics and chemistry, although it is
presently assumed that the fundamentals of physics and chemistry underlie
all of ecology and evolution.

RE: Active Information vs. Inactive Information - lcyagil
(lcyagil at wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0037.html

RE: Active Information vs. Inactive Information - Doug Caldwell
(caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0039.html

Relationships vs. physical objects - Doug Caldwell (caldwell at SKYWAY.USASK.CA)
http://www.bio.net/hypermail/BIOLOGICAL-INFORMATION-THEORY/9712/0083.html

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me - Regards - Doug

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Doug Caldwell
Microbial Colonization Laboratory
Department of Applied Microbiology and Food Science
51 Campus Drive, University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, S7N 5A8, Canada
Voice: (306) 966-5026 (office), -5042 (colonization lab), -7704 (laser
imaging facility), 934-0711 (home)
Fax: 306-966-8898
Email: caldwell at sask.usask.ca
WebSite: http://zebra.usask.ca
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Doug Caldwell
Microbial Colonization Laboratory
Department of Applied Microbiology and Food Science
51 Campus Drive, University of Saskatchewan
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, S7N 5A8, Canada
Voice: (306) 966-5026 (office), -5042 (colonization lab), -7704 (laser
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