PHOTOSYN as a Newsgroup

Rob Harper harper at
Wed Dec 16 01:45:12 EST 1992

In <1992Dec15.154209.1 at> marder at writes:

>   Also, at the present growth rate, we are headed for problems.  I am well
>aware of the defficiencies of LISTSERV and unwilling to spend an
>ever-increasing amount of time maintaining PHOTOSYN in its present form
>while there are better alternatives.

I have been reading the PHOTOSYN debate for some time. Here are my thoughts
for what they are worth.

	1)LISTSERV list-owners know more about the drawbacks of
	  LISTSERV than the regular user... Though they keep the horror
	  stories to themselves. (The politics of service)
	2)With luck a user might be able to subscribe to a LISTSERV
          but 90% of them do not know how to unsubscribe.
	3)Getting logs of notebooks or doing LDBASE searches of LISTSERV
	  are completely UFO ideas to most biologists.

CONCLUSIONS: Joe Biologist wants mail and he does not care where it comes
             from as long as it arrives and he can make a reply to it. 
	     And if there is no bouncing mail so much the better.

OPTIONS: If you want to give your users a soft landing into the world
	 of BIONET, then why not proceed as follows:

	1) Let Dave handle the administration of your list, but you
	   remain as chief-whip to keep things in order.
	2) Begin with only the mail distribution, so that the transistion
	   will be gradual. REVIEW your list and send the stat file to
	   Dave with the E-mail addresses of your members
	3) Do not impliment the bidirectional link to Usenet just yet...
           which would circumvent the need to have a call for votes,
	   where you might run the risk of failure.
	4) If the mailing list funtions well for a 6 month period,
           and it passes the criteria which have been laid down for
	   the "continuation" of BIONET newsgroups, then it should 
	   automatically become linked to Usenet.

That fourth option has never been discussed on Bionet, but I think that
if you establish a mailing list that is providing a steady turn over of 
messages that have CONTENT, then it is a very simple matter to link the
mailing list to USENET.

Rob "draft beer... not resolutions" Harper

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