Alternatives to a local Usenet server

Foteos Macrides macrides at
Wed Aug 24 20:02:17 EST 1994

In article <33fnpj$adf at>, harper at (Rob Harper) writes:
> In <1994Aug23.120347.280 at> macrides at (Foteos Macrides) writes:
> If you do a veronica search for the keywords "public and access"
> you will come up with a load of site that allow youu to read bionet
> from within gopher.
> For example:
>      USA: BALL ST.: Ball State U 
>      USA: BERKELEY: International Computer Science Institute 
>      USA: GETTYSBG.: Gettysburg College 
>      USA: ILLINOIS: Illinois State U 
>      USA: L. ALAMOS: Los Alamos 
>      USA: LOUISIANA: Louisiana Tech (threaded) 
>      USA: LOUISIANA: Louisiana Tech (unthreaded) 
>      USA: MANITOBA: U of Manitoba 
>      USA: MICHIGAN: Michigan State U 
>      USA: MINNESOTA: U of Minnesota #1 
>      USA: MINNESOTA: U of Minnesota #2 
>      USA: PROVO: Brigham Young U 
> and in Europe:
>      DENMARK: (no City): DENet 
>      FINLAND: TAMPERE: Tampere U of Technology 
>      GERMANY: CLAUSTHAL: Technische U Clausthal 
>      GERMANY: ERLANGEN: U Erlangen 
>      GERMANY: HANNOVER: U Hannover 
>      GERMANY: OSNABR.: U Osnabrueck #1 
>      GERMANY: OSNABR.: U Osnabrueck #2 
>      ITALY: TRIESTE: International Center for Theoretical Physics, Trieste 
>      SPAIN: (no City): U Jaume I. 
>      SPAIN: VALENCIA: U Polytecnica de Valencia 
>      UN.KINGD.: (no City): Imperial College 
>      UN.KINGD.: BIRMINGH.: U of Birmingham 
	Yes, there are lots of gopher sites that offer read access to news.
The LANL one is particularly nice because it pairs each group with a search
of the current articles in it.  But that's read-only access.
> Or if you want to go the WWW way then here are a few URL's to look up
> (Utilises WebThread)
	All of those URL's, and others like them, create "cover pages"
for fetching news articles, with varying degrees of complexity (e.g.,
with the messages organized by thread).  However, the URL's for actually
fetching the articles are all:  news:<message_id>
	That means the WWW client must have access to an NNTP server
which has the article.  The http server doesn't provide the articles.
It just organizes and annotates the URL's for them.  One can find
public access NNTP servers, occassionally, on the Internet, usually
because the administator didn't read the docs on how to restrict access.
They don't last very long.  As soon as they are discovered, boom they're
overused, the machine is crippled, and the administrator reads the docs
on how to restrict access.
	If your client *does* have access to an NNTP server, those httpd
served cover pages are very convenient, particularly for groups whose
articles tend to have embedded URL's.
 Foteos Macrides           Worcester Foundation for Experimental Biology
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