gene related to violence?

Alexander Berezin berezin at MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Wed Nov 8 18:51:36 EST 1995


On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 BOMINAAR at chem.rug.nl wrote:

> 
> >On 7 Nov 1995, Michael Gregory Abel, University of Tennessee wrote:
> 
> >> On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Alexander Berezin wrote:
> >> > On 7 Nov 1995, Barbara Germon wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > Does anyone know of research being done to identify a gene thought to
> >> > > cause a predisposition to violent behavior in humans who have it?  If so,
> >> > > where could I get more information?
> >> > 
> >> > For someone who is NOT in genetics the above question
> >> > (and thousands other loke it) gives some reason to 
> >> > question seriously the very fabric of modern science:
> >> > 
> >> > "Now it all in genes (DNA, or you name it): cancer,
> >> > violence, IQs, homosexuality, etc, etc"
> >> > 
> >> > 100 years ago it all was in a shape of your skull 
> >> > (phrenology).  DNA well may be a fad of today which
> >> > will be laughted at as an "omni-explanation" tomorrow.
> >> > 
> >> > Its time for some cold water om molecular genetics.
> >> > 
> >> > Alex Berezin  
> >> 
> >> Ramble......ramble.....ramble.....
> >> 
> >> What the hell are you trying to say with this diatribe?
> >> 
> 
> >What I want to say is that when they identify
> >"violence gene" than next step they will find
> >that some [ specific groups ] have more of them .....
> >(need further references ?). In short, pseude-science.
> >Alex Berezin
> > 
> 
> I don't think that the potential (mis)use of a finding
> for ethically undesired purposes, should be a leading mechanism 
> in science. Because if that were the case, we should stop doing any 
> kind of research, because there will always be some sick minds.
> 
> to stick to the question of genes for violence, identifying them doen't 
> have to lead to eugenetics.
> 
> and as far as some specific groups having more of them than others, starting 
> from a darwinian point of view, one might wonder what the selective advantage
> of these genes is, that caused them to be present in these groups and than 
> if you really feel like doing something with the information try to change 
> the social structure (I'm just guessing that that is were the selective 
> advantage will be) and thereby reduce the selective pressure for these genes.
> I don't see anything un-ethical in that.
> 
> Ton
> 

OK, I agree with the above (Ton's) argument.
I made a bluff in my earlier posting. Actually,
I have checked it with my relative who
works in genetics and got an opinion that 
violence genes are likely to exist.
Alex Berezin 
> 



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