Things look pretty dim...

Bert Gold bgold at ITSA.UCSF.EDU
Fri Jan 26 00:42:44 EST 1996


I think you misunderstand.

Roizman is (I think) head of a department at Chicago.  He is an 'elder
statesman' of science having written and edited many books.  If he
is recruiting, what looks like to me, is a near-neophyte foreign
post-doc (the ad. is in the Chronicle of Higher Ed. this week), then
it means that he has only limited funds.  Here in the US, post-doc.
salaries, with few exceptions, are scaled by NIH.  They are price-fixed,
so to speak.  There is not a free market for the labor of a post-doc. in 
that there are restrictions on how much and how little you can pay them.
$ 25,000 is the middle of the scale.  $ 32,300 is the top.  I think around
$ 19,000 is the bottom these days.  The fact that Roizman is advertising
at a particular salary may well mean that his funds are limited and
my point is, Roizman should be hiring MANY people at MANY levels, that
is, if science were healthy, which it is apparently not.

Bert Gold, Ph.D.
University of California, San Francisco
School of Medicine

On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Alexander Berezin wrote:

> On 25 Jan 1996, Bert Gold wrote:
> > Things look pretty dim to me when Bernard Roizman, perhaps the greatest
> > living virologist since Bernie Field's death, is advertising for a post-doc.
> > to whom he is at most willing to pay $ 25,000.  Roizman, at his stage 
> > and position should have 10 slots for independent, Assistant Profs. open.
> Though I must beg forgiveness for the ignorance of not
> knowing any of these names above, I am bothered (sort
> of CONCEPTUALLY) with 2 points:
> (1) If some-one has post-doc opening (regardless of all
> the reservations about PDF positions voiced earlier),
> I think it should be offered at approximately the same
> salary level as other PDF. Although I am not proposing
> total equality, I don't think there should be priviledged
> postdocs for rich profs. It is quite unfair if 'small 
> profs' pay their PDFs $ 25,000 while big guys pay them, 
> say, $ 50,000.
> (2) No matter how great Dr. Roizman can be (if he is
> a university professor), he should NOT have ANY openings
> for ANY assistant professors. The latter should be hired
> by the university (NOT by Dr. Who) and be INDEPENDENT
> (they may, of course, co-operate with Dr. Who, if they
> chose so, but this is unrelated to hiring). Financial
> subordination of junior profs to senior particians is one
> of the major curses of the present academic system. 
> > 
> > Then, Bill Jones from NIH writes me that the NIH Guide is so screwed up
> > they're not sure they're gonna get an edition out even THIS week.
> > 
> > On the bright side, I got a note from Francis Crick, saying that he is
> > back at work and feeling OK.  Thank God, we need him.
> > 
> > Bert Gold
> > San Francisco
> > 
> > 

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